In Louisiana, 17-year-old Baton Rouge high school student Zack Kopplin is fighting for his future.
Louisiana, like other Republican and Tea Party-controlled states, wants to return to a time when science did not explain the world. To a time when that task was left to religion – a specific religion. We are left to wonder how long it will be before teachers are ordered to teach that the world is flat. Or that the sun really does all revolve around the earth. Who needs gravity, or, while we’re at it, germ theory?
These things seem far-fetched, but so does reality in Louisiana, where Science Education Act, R.S. 17:285.1, which was passed in 2008, replaced science with religion by allowing the teaching of Christian Creationism, including Intelligent Design, in public schools. Not church schools. But public schools. This act states in part,
B.(1) The State Board of Elementary and Secondary Education, upon request of a city, parish, or other local public school board, shall allow and assist teachers, principals, and other school administrators to create and foster an environment within public elementary and secondary schools that promotes critical thinking skills, logical analysis, and open and objective discussion of scientific theories being studied including, but not limited to, evolution, the origins of life, global warming, and human cloning.
And obviously, the so-called “Science Education Act” has nothing at all to do with critical thinking, logical analysis or objective discussion or with science at all, and though it insists
D. This Section shall not be construed to promote any religious doctrine, promote discrimination for or against a particular set of religious beliefs, or promote discrimination for or against religion or nonreligion.
The Science Education Act has everything to do with religion as the evidence demonstrates:
In Livingston Parish, Jan Benton, Director of Curriculum, told the Livingston Parish School Board that the law’s purpose is to allow the teaching of “critical thinking and creationism” in science classes. Here is an excerpt from the article about the board’s discussion in the July 24, 2010, Baton Rouge Advocate.
Board Member David Tate quickly responded: “We let them teach evolution to our children, but I think all of us sitting up here on this School Board believe in creationism. Why can’t we get someone with religious beliefs to teach creationism?” Fellow board member Clint Mitchell responded, “I agree … you don’t have to be afraid to point out some of the fallacies with the theory of evolution. Teachers should have the freedom to look at creationism and find a way to get it into the classroom.” (Emphasis added)
And that religion brings up a chilling specter not of our future, but of our present. As Change.org chillingly puts it in an email alert,
There’s no such thing as evolution. There’s no such thing as climate change. And that’s the law.
Outrageous as it sounds, this is the situation that thousands of science teachers find themselves in as more and more states pass radical laws promoting the teaching of creationism and climate-change denial in public classrooms.
According to the Washington Post,
Since January, anti-science legislators in seven states have proposed nine bills attacking evolution and evolution education, according to the National Center for Science Education, which defends the teaching of evolution in public schools.
The truth is that before the Enlightenment, religion, not science, explained the world around us. There was no need to question, no need for wonder, because all that was needed to know was known. “The Bible says so” was good enough for all and sundry. Asking questions could get you killed, as the father of modern science, Renee Decartes, well knew, writing safely first from the relative Netherlands and then when the fires grew too hot, Sweden.
Of course, going back in time isn’t easy. Christofascism’s turning back the clock is always well-funded, in Louisiana by Christian lobbying firm Louisiana Family Forum, a spinoff of Christian pundit James Dobson’s Focus on the Family. According to Zack Kopplin, who is fighting to overturn the bill, they spent $125,000 getting this bill made law.
Kopplin says,
“When Louisiana students apply to college, people won’t know if that student was taught creationism in their science classes. Maybe they’ll think they don’t have the science background to get into college.”
Kopplin recognizes (even if the alleged adults behind this atrocity don’t) that science is important in today’s world, and for America’s standing generally and Louisiana’s specifically. Even economics argues against the teaching of religion in public schools: “What investor is going to invest in science in Louisiana? We’re considered the most anti-science state,” he asks.
Of course, Kopplin doesn’t have a big Christofascists lobbying firm on his side; he doesn’t have $125,000 to buy elections, but he did gather the signatures of 42 Nobel Laureates on a letter sent to the state legislature, calling for the law to be repealed.
Kopplin also enlisted the aid of Sen. Karen Carter Peterson and on April 15 she introduced SB 70 to repeal the Louisiana Science Education Act.
On April 28 Kopplin and his supporters marched on the state capitol in Baton Rouge, and demanded repeal of the law. Demanded “that accurate, research-based science education be the only curriculum taught in Louisiana classrooms.” He also started a petition on Change.org to rally Louisiana supporters.
The determined student has also won the support of various pro-science groups:
- The American Association for the Advancement of Science;
- the National Center for Science Education;
- the Louisiana Science Coalition;
- the National Association of Biology Teachers ;
- and the Louisiana Association of Biology Educators.
Unsurprisingly, he has also been accused of attacking religion. But he’s not; he’s got the Constitution behind him. Teaching religion is anti-Constitutional, a violation of Supreme Court rulings on the subject including Edwards v. Aguillard (1987), which struck down an earlier law mandating the teaching of Creationism in Louisiana.
And not all Christians want to put young Kopplin to the stake: Baptist minister Dr. Welton Gaddy, president of the national Interfaith Alliance supports his efforts.
Of course, the road to repeal won’t be easy: Republican Governor Bobby Jindal opposes any repeal of Louisiana’s Medieval future according to the Associated Press. He likes the Middle Ages; he wants Louisiana to stay there.
List of state bills sponsoring the destruction of science here.





Sally
May. 10th, 2011 at 7:59 am
What a wise and brave young man. I hope some prestigious college offers him a scholarship. This is the kind of leader we will need in 20 years.
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Hrafnkell Haraldsson
May. 10th, 2011 at 8:12 am
I agree, Sally. I was thinking along the same lines.
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Stacey Junker
May. 10th, 2011 at 3:09 pm
What is in the Holy Bible that frightens the scientific mind so?
It takes FAITH to believe in a theory…
…doesn’t it?
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Shiva (Moderator)
May. 10th, 2011 at 3:23 pm
don’t you mean what is there in science that frightens the Christians so much? Science is hardly bothered by the Bible the Christians are very bothered by science. Why is that?
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Shiva (Moderator)
May. 10th, 2011 at 3:30 pm
No, not faith to believe in a theory. Facts and research
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Kenenth Wilcher
May. 10th, 2011 at 3:56 pm
First off science proves the Bible, take some time and truly look into it. Also look at how many non-believing scientist have converted to Christianity while trying to disprove it.
Second, not saying that all science is wrong or that a large majority is, I believe God gave us science and scientist and the ability to learn these things to just prove that he exists. Think about the “facts and research” you describe. Were you there when those facts and research were acquired. Well than you choose to “believe” a science book that these things are so. Where you there when an apple was originally called an apple for the first time? No. You believe your parents when they teach you that as a small child, so you take it on “faith” that they are telling you the truth just as you take on “faith” that science is correct. Now I know there are many replies to what I have just said, but before you do, really stop and think about what I have just said. How do you really know anything, everything you know is built off knowledge gained by others, off of the truths we already believe. You may not realize it but you have more “faith” than you give yourself credit for. So why is it so much harder to believe in God. There is a book that has been proven in many aspects (by science might I add) and yet you find it hard to believe. Why? One more thing a “theory” is unproven that is why it is a theory so yes it would take “faith” to believe in it.
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Shiva (Moderator)
May. 10th, 2011 at 4:18 pm
I am not really sure where you get the fact that science proves the Bible. So far science hasn’t proven the Earth the skies and the universe was created in seven days. I can think of no way that science has proven the Bible other than the fact that archaeology has proven that some of the things in the Bible have occurred. Not that Jesus was the son of God nor that a god exists.
I would never say that I do not have faith, simply because faith is not interconnected with only a God. I find that I have faith in things that I find are believable.
I know that many scientists are Christians and many scientists just don’t think about it. Either way. Not all scientists are in the business of proving or disproving the Bible or the Christian religion.
The Christian religion and the Bible are no more proven than the Islamic books, the Mayan books, the Hindu religions and the multitude of other religions that have existed over time. The Christian religion is a relative latecomer when compared with older religions and is certainly older than some religions. Let us not forget that the original “Jewish people” believed in a multitude of gods until they settled on one who incidentally was the God of war.
so there is never been any proof other than faith that any God exists. And that includes the gods of all the religions. Science is not proved it nor will it ever. And of course I only know two things. I know what others have learned before me(whether science, society ,or any other source), and I know what I feel to be true. the God that you believe in acts no differently than Zeus or the God of Dionysus upon whom the Christian religion is almost a direct match. I do not believe in a God of perfection who demands that I serve him or he sends me to hell if I don’t. that is not a religion that is slavery. so in summary why do night not have faith that there is a God? Number one it doesn’t feel right and I don’t need one, and number two, the God of the holy Bible does not add up to a God of perfection but is a God of human emotions made by humans using emotions
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Kenenth Wilcher
May. 10th, 2011 at 5:00 pm
I found this article via a facebook post from my best friend, and he like you disagrees with me on many different things. Just as I told him I think people should have the choice to learn either way. I do not like the idea of Christian schools not teaching evolutionism just as I do not agree with “religion” replacing science. I believe people should be given the knowledge and then make up their own minds based on their personal convictions.
You were right in many points, such as science will never prove things that require faith to believe. Science tho has proven enough of the timeline and events in the Bible I would think to make even an unbeliever to maybe not completely discredit it. (Not saying that you do).
Now I will say that I am sorry that you like so many others have been exposed to the train of thought that God requires servants for his Kingdom. I know we could go back and forth about this all day and I do not mean this to be a personal discussion aimed at each other, although I do like a good debate that is done with tact and class. The God of the old testament was as you say, in a way, but that it why Christ is such a important part of our faith. Christ was a gift that we can choose to accept or not. Yes this requires faith, the idea is not ” I give you eternal life in Heaven and now you serve me forever haha(evil laugh)”. It stops at the gift, a true Christian will tell you the obedience side of it all comes out of a willingness to do it voluntarily, not because we feel we have to but because we do it in a loving response. To something that was given to us that we did not deserve or earn and never could.
I am not trying to be pushy PLEASE don’t take it that way I just hate for people to have the wrong impression of my God, and I blame Christians for that. Gandhi said it best “I like your Christ. I do not like your Christians. They are so unlike your Christ.” I also like where he said “It is beyond my power to induce in you a belief in God. There are certain things which are self proved and certain which are not proved at all. The existence of God is like a geometrical axiom. It may be beyond our heart grasp. I shall not talk of an intellectual grasp. Intellectual attempts are more or less failures, as a rational explanation cannot give you the faith in a living God. For it is a thing beyond the grasp of reason. It transcends reason. There are numerous phenomena from which you can reason out the existence of God, but I shall not insult your intelligence by offering you a rational explanation of that type. I would have you brush aside all rational explanations and begin with a simple childlike faith in God. If I exist, God exists.”
I like what you said ” I find that I have faith in things that I find are believable.” I respect that and I hope that we can all some day (both sides) open our minds and really look at what “we” believe based on information provided and not what others would have us to believe.
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Kenenth Wilcher
May. 10th, 2011 at 5:09 pm
I will also say that maybe the public school system is not the ground to fight this battle. Sure on one hand I would love to see everyone believe as I believe, but there are many other religions that feel the same way, and if we taught them all in the public school system, we wouldn’t have time for anything else. Like music, art, English, math etc. In the end people should have a choice if Christians or any other religion or the government start robbing people of choice were will we be. As a Christian I believe God gave us free will and the ability to choose I do not want to take that away from anyone. I hate things are coming to such ends.
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Shiva (Moderator)
May. 10th, 2011 at 5:18 pm
I do not agree with religion in school at all. That is a function of the home and the church. Parents need to teach the children their religion, not the school. When you are trying to prepare people to go out and launch a vehicle into space, design a car or even work on an assembly line religious classes are of absolutely no help. Then of course there is the argument of why do I have to pay to have your children taught a religion that you should be teaching them?
The biggest problem I have is that people like the people in this article could gain control of teaching in our schools and that religion would be the primary function of the school and education would be the secondary. Many schools are trying to go that way now particularly here in the South. I asked one of the women that I worked with a few years ago why she wants religion taught in school so badly. She said to get our foot in the door so we can teach religion before the other stuff. She is a Southern Baptist. She is one of the reasons I shudder whenever I hear the name Baptist
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Shiva (Moderator)
May. 10th, 2011 at 5:14 pm
I do not discredit the history and the Bible. However the Bible starts at a certain time and ends in a certain time and was written primarily to deal with the rule of Rome. I immediately agree that many things in the Bible are proven to have happened and that there are other writings that also back them up.
And I agree with you. This should not be personal however, I am only giving my personal feelings. And the last thing I want to do is do anything to shake your belief in your religion.if you hours and I’m fine with that. I was brought up quite religiously, so I am not unaware at all of the tenets of religion. However, you must admit either user or you go to hell. It’s a little different to me than a CEO. You serve or you’re fired.
I’m afraid that I believe in a totally natural world and universe. I do not need a creator or a God to prove my own existence and I’m sure I probably said that wrong. I do not need to ask what came before the Big Bang because it is obvious that something did and still did not need to have a creator.
I have no problem with people who believe in Christianity. I have a great problem with many of the fanatics that are pushing their religion off the cliff. A few of them are mentioned in the article that we are responding to. And the nature of friendship I would like to say that I am not your problem (I know I said that wrong) but you do have a great problem in the people who are hurting your religion. I think it would be remarkable if Christians particularly the heads of the many religions that we have such as Methodists, Catholics, Baptists(. I shudder just 2 think of Baptists) etc. would speak out against these people.
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Kenneth Wilcher
May. 10th, 2011 at 5:51 pm
Once again I would like to apologize for the crazies that give me and others a bad name. I suppose there are always crazies no matter what side of the fence your talking about. It has been a pleasure having this discussion with you. I only hope I have maybe restored a little faith for you that all Christians do not believe in a CEO God. Even a good loving earthly father advises his children on the best course of action and every action has a consequence , but we all still get the Choice. Peace be with you and God Bless.
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Shiva (Moderator)
May. 10th, 2011 at 5:53 pm
Trust me, I can use it :)
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Mark
May. 10th, 2011 at 6:03 pm
The above is a grown adult pretending that their Bronze Age book of myths is real and true and science is false.
A grown adult. This is why the GOP has the power they do. This is why the Teatard party has control over the GOP. This is 30% of the adult population in this country. They simply MAKE SHIT UP.
Kenneth (who spelled his own name wrong) is making up whatever he wants to make up and is asserting that it’s true despite the fact that he MADE IT UP. They vote. They cause the chaos in the world. They are filled to the brim with total BS.
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jeff_000
May. 11th, 2011 at 5:33 pm
Almost any book you read has some factual data… Places and names… Read any fictional book about something and as long as it isn’t something futuristic then it will list real information… Same with the Bible… But lets get back to the “were you there” part of your post… I wasn’t there, but the science has been duplicated and used on a daily basis, so I have been privledged to see some of it… Perfect case in point, I wasn’t there when the light bulb was invented, but I use one all the time and I know how they work, but I have still yet to see anyone walk on water, or part even a pond, let alone the Red Sea… The reality of it is, the smarter people become, the less religious they become… The Bible stopped centuries ago, why is that, why isn’t it continuing on today… The “New” Testament is basically the same as the old one, just different wording… Then throw in Catholic, and Methodist, and Baptist, and Lutheran and and and… All out of the same book, but all saying different things… Science I can see every day just by opening my eyes… Everything isn’t just one way as people or the Bible like to claim… I am not everyone else, I am an individual, not a same’r, and if you are truly a beliver in God and the Bible, then you would realize we are all exactly how we are supposed to be or God would of made us different, and science is supposed to be in the classroom or it would never have made it there in the first place… You can’t have it both ways…
There ya go, take your pick, science or God and the Bible, to me they want the same thing :)
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AcidQueen
May. 13th, 2011 at 9:44 am
ROFL, are you serious?
How does “science [prove] the Bible”?
Put your answer right here:_____________
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Matt S
May. 11th, 2011 at 8:20 am
If I may quote the movie Philadelphia:
“Faith is belief in a thing for which we have no evidence; it does not apply to this situation.”
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nk007
May. 11th, 2011 at 6:26 pm
Actually you have it all wrong. it is the believers in the “Holy Bible” who are frightened by the “scientific mind.” Do you see scientists passing laws demanding that the scientific theory of evolution be taught in religious studies?
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Shiva (Moderator)
May. 10th, 2011 at 8:15 am
Teach your religion in your homes. If you are religious it is your responsibility to teach your kids what you believe. There is no excuse for teaching the bible in schools.
Leave schools for education, not indoctrination
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Team Sanity
May. 10th, 2011 at 8:19 am
Bobby Jondal needs to go back to his job at 30 Rock as the page boy.
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Hrafnkell Haraldsson
May. 10th, 2011 at 8:25 am
I think he prefers the idea of being a medieval page
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maxine
May. 10th, 2011 at 11:20 am
Mardi Gras only happens once a year. Pages are young boys from old money families. Jindal longs for what he cannot have – a soul.
If the kid needs a place to stay in NOLA, send him to me.
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John Hall
May. 10th, 2011 at 8:47 am
And we wanted to remove the Taliban why? It seems some people want their own version of the Taliban here. But because it’s a Christian version I guess it’s OK, right?
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Kim
May. 10th, 2011 at 8:50 am
Amen…(pun intended).
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Shiva (Moderator)
May. 10th, 2011 at 9:04 am
My taliban is better than your taliban
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english saddle
May. 10th, 2011 at 10:17 am
I see you one Taliban and raise you a teabagger. I hear the winning pot is fascism Palin hucksbee style.
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DannyEastVillage
May. 10th, 2011 at 8:47 am
The Roman catholic leadership embraced evolution many decades ago. Louisiana is heavily RC. It’s time their leadership stood up for something besides hating queers.
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Scorpie
May. 10th, 2011 at 10:23 am
Have lived in Louisiana for the past 10 years and I am so glad that my 2 sons are grown. But, what can y’all expect from a state with Jindal for governor; David Vitter for one senator and a tea partier (can’t remember his name)for one of the congressmen. This is a beautiful state but looney-tunes.
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Mark
May. 10th, 2011 at 10:27 am
I think it’s more important to MOVE from Louisiana and go to a state that has embraced the 21st century.
Don’t forget. After Katrina, survivors were interviewed. Despite the fact that their friends, families, homes and neighborhoods were destroyed, they said their FAITH was strengthened in their deity.
Their FAITH was strengthened. That alone tells you the mindset. They’re impenetrable, so why bother.
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maxine
May. 10th, 2011 at 11:27 am
Our faith in ourselves, not some gawd, was strengthened. I moved to New Orleans from Hawaii after Katrina because this city is something worth fighting for.
We have faith in our friends, in the ability of small groups to fight an uncaring and corrupt government and in the right of people to be who they are – not what Christofascists think we should be.
The rest of Louisiana has silliness issues, but we love them.
If we’re lucky, the Mighty Mississippi will do its thing on Baton Rouge.
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Infidel753
May. 10th, 2011 at 10:27 am
When are these idiots going to realize that teaching mythology in science classes is a form of unilateral disarmament? That in an era when national power depends on science and technology, we’d be shooting ourselves in the foot, or rather brain, while the countries we’re competing with will suffer from no such handicaps?
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Reynardine
May. 10th, 2011 at 11:08 am
This boy and his young allies are to be commended for their bravery. Youngsters who desire any kind of a future are at the mercy of the whim of adult authorities, who can be mindlessly vindictive towards young people who challenge them. This blog has reported the persecution of victimized children in Flagler County, Florida and Silsbee, Texas, and for every case that gets reported, I’d estimate there are two or three hundred that aren’t. Bad references and the ex post facto lowering of grades are only a couple of retaliatory measures they are risking that could vitiate their whole lives. To those of good will, I say keep an eye on Zack and people like him, and scream if he is fouled.
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Elizabeth
May. 10th, 2011 at 1:38 pm
This generation appears to be willing to stand up and start working to repair some of the messes. They call themselves Generation WE. When I told my 19 yo granddaughter some of the things they stand for, her response “of course”. She gleefully reported the response a group of religious extremists got when they came to “preach anti-gay” on her public community college campus. I don’t think they’ll be back anytime soon. These kids are willing to stand up and lead. We older folk MUST get off our duffs and start following. Remember the Boomers brought us Civil Rights and ended a war when we were young. Lets help these kids repair their future.
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Snoozepossum
May. 10th, 2011 at 11:13 am
Thanx muchly for posting this. I sent an email to Rev. Gaddy to thank him for his support as a Pagan who believes that even Christianity won’t remain free if the government is allowed to promote belief.
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VHTG
May. 10th, 2011 at 12:14 pm
Isn’t it against federal law to teach religious beliefs in public schools? Shouldn’t all federal funding be withheld from Louisiana’s public school system until the law is repealed?
In any case, kudos to Zack Kopplin for his bravery, common sense, and intelligence in his stance against the prevailing establishment.
Kids like him give me hope for the future of this country. We are backsliding into the kind of religious bigotry and extremism that our forefathers left their homelands to avoid. We need more people like Zack standing up and saying NO to stupidity.
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Anne
May. 10th, 2011 at 12:53 pm
You know what’s such a ridiculous contradiction? They want this country to be what they call “exceptional,” yet they do everything possible to sabotage that status. Attacking education means that their state will be even more marginalized, while the rest of the world progresses. It’s mind-boggling how some of these states are so selective about the federal laws they want to abide by, and still benefit from all this country has to offer. I hope people realize by now that the Tea Partiers are really the Know-Nothings of the 21st century, who are trying to sell the 19th century ignorance under a new label.
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Ingarose
May. 10th, 2011 at 2:50 pm
In 1983 the school board of Bennet, Colorado introduced creationism and ‘abstinence only’ into their elementary and high schools. I remember the meetings, they were horrible, but the religious folks won for a while. After their win 3/4 of the teachers left and the school had to close for a while in order to get teachers. Yes, those fanatical christians are no better than the fanatical talibans.
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majii
May. 10th, 2011 at 3:55 pm
I’m a retired teacher, Ingarose, and what I see happening in the near future is exactly what happened in Bennet, CO–teachers leaving the field of education or moving to other states/districts, and the Christofascists having a problem educating their own kids. Many of the Cfs who are backing this type of legislation have no financial resources to educate their own kids in private schools and can’t leave their jobs to home-school their kids. I retired in 2009, and after watching the attacks on public school teachers since then, I’m glad I did. If the Cfs think they have a problem now, just wait until no one wants to go into the fields of elementary and secondary education! There is definitely a breaking point, and the Cfs are pushing millions of teachers toward it. Ezra Klein had a post at the WP earlier this week questioning why America isn’t retaining its engineering students. IMO, this trend is only a harbinger of what the future holds if the Cfs gain more control over the schools and the economy.
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Reynardine
May. 10th, 2011 at 2:57 pm
“Exceptional” is sometimes a euphemism for what used to be called an idiot.
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Reynardine
May. 10th, 2011 at 4:39 pm
No. In scientific terms, a “hypothesis” is an unproven postulate. Once all the known proofs support it, then it is called a “theory”. This still leaves open the possibility of unknown evidence appearing that may modify it or render it obsolete, but it is far more based in fact than any article of mere faith, such as your assertion that “science” “supports” something called “the Bible” – a compendium of assembled, sometimes contradictory writings whose contents vary with whatever self-interested, self-satisfied stuffed shirts get control over the dogma of an age. Most people did not co-exist with dinosaurs, but methinks they are still thundering through your mind. Your privilege; just don’t force others to share your tiny-brained ignorance.
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Reynardine
May. 10th, 2011 at 4:43 pm
The foregoing was to have posted to Kenneth Wilcher.
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Shiva (Moderator)
May. 10th, 2011 at 4:45 pm
Again?
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Reynardine
May. 10th, 2011 at 5:20 pm
Yeah. My android is dead tired from this heat, and my albatross doesn’t know how to handle the electronic stuff yet.
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Robert
May. 13th, 2011 at 2:48 am
A better clarification is that a theory states would should happen, not what will happen.
To state what will happen requires that you be psychic, that you know all of the future, rather than understanding the outcome of a specific set of interactions.
Facts are historical truths, not future outcomes, scientific theories are the most probable outcomes of a select set of interactions and if you what fortunes tellers, well, seek religion.
Of course these psuedo scientific religious babble laws are cool, they allow the rest of the world to laugh at the growing US idiocracy, the celebration of American stupid and the development of intellectual bullshit as the number 1 US product.
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Tidux
May. 13th, 2011 at 4:50 pm
>Most people did not coexist with dinosaurs.
Well, about that…
http://xkcd.com/867
(read the alt-text)
I have absolutely no idea what is wrong with Louisiana. The Vatican supports evolution, but a state so Catholic it’s organized BY PARISH rejects it. The Vatican not only believes that climate change is real, but that the best choice is to deal with it now. The state that got assraped by freak hurricanes strengthened by abnormally-warm seawater rejects the idea of climate change.
Maybe God sent the storms and oil because the Deep South was TOO conservative?
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Tidux
May. 13th, 2011 at 4:51 pm
Sorry for the doublepost, but that last sentence had “sarcasm” HTML-style tags around it. I just wanted to emphasize that I don’t actually believe that.
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Shiva (Moderator)
May. 13th, 2011 at 4:59 pm
lol good point! The birds!
BTW, you cant use tags, they get stripped out
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dale
May. 12th, 2011 at 1:17 am
It is a faithless people that believe their God needs governments help. God is waiting for obedience from his flock. He does not convert Governments. God is not afraid of science. Nor is He afraid of homosexuality. He is not afraid of other religions. He is not afraid of earthquakes, tsunamis, hurricanes, or nuclear explosions. God is in control of the universe. He is in control, and does not need government to come to his rescue. Christians do not have faith in their god. They try to use government to help him. Such faithlessness would allow the powers of this earth to steal the credit and the glory for the things God does. God does not look kindly on such unbelief among those that profess His name. Gods people are gifted with a calling. They are to reach out to others to bring them into the flock. For them to look to government to fulfill His calling is anathema. When it’s time, God will have his theocracy. His government will rule. But, it will happen in His time and in His mercy. It will not be ushered in by mankind in any age.
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AcidQueen
May. 13th, 2011 at 10:15 am
Your god is an abusive jerk who rules through threats and intimidation. He is not a god that I would worship, ever again. He is not merciful nor is he kind–he is a petty childish brat who can’t stand to think of anyone not wanting to love him, and who therefore uses threats to get his way. Were he any mortal man or woman, he’d be jailed on domestic violence charges immediately.
I’d sooner be dead than a slave.
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