FOX News is still at it, misrepresenting the news in order to provide a skewed and distorted worldview for the conservative base. On Friday night (July 22) Laura Ingraham, whom the Liberapedia correctly identifies “a Christian Conservative shrew,” made an appearance as guest host on The O’Reilly Factor, and took the opportunity to blame the terrorist attack conducted by a right-wing Christian extremist on Muslims. In her words, “two deadly terror attacks in Norway, in what appears to be the work, once again, of Muslim extremists…”
The problem is, of course, that the extremist in question is a Christian, not a Muslim. What’s more, FOX News had no reason to claim that the attacks were the work of Islamic terrorists, since as Media Matters points out,
Friday’s edition of The O’Reilly Factor was recorded, so, despite the fact that several outlets were already reporting at the time the show aired that the suspect in the attacks was not linked to any Islamist groups, Fox News viewers were left with that impression anyway.
Watch the segment below:
To make matters worse, in the words of Media Matters, she then
immediately transitioned into a segment on Park51, the planned Islamic community center near the World Trade Center, by saying, “In the meantime, in New York City, the Muslims who want to build the mosque at Ground Zero scored a huge legal victory. A Manhattan judge dismissed a lawsuit by former New York City firefighter Timothy Brown, who was trying to stop construction of the mosque. Bill O’Reilly spoke with a lawyer for the Muslim developers yesterday.”
Because of course, according to Ingraham’s logic, building a mosque will lead to similar attacks on American shores. FOX News seems to be taking the advance of FOX News employee Sarah Palin and rather than learning from the lessons of Rupert Murdoch’s egregious misdeeds, “re-loading” instead with more of the hate and vitriol for which they’re so well known.
Using that logic, and knowing that the terrorist was a right-wing Christian, we can therefore surmise that the building of any more fundamentalist churches will lead to terrorist attacks in the United States. By her own words, fundamentalist Christianity stands condemned.
FOX News admitted on July 24 that the suspect, Anders Behring Breivik, was being described by police as a “fundamentalist Christian.” Strangely, they didn’t call for a ban on church construction. And though they identified him as a “terror” suspect they did not call the attacks themselves an act of terrorism but rather said that the police were labeling them as such.
You can well imagine how different their coverage would be if Breivik’s name and complexion were Islamic.
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Dragonpuff
Jul. 24th, 2011 at 8:15 am
I truly hate FAUX. Roger Ailes is a sick man right up their with Rupert. They need to be brought down.
All of them.
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jlt
Jul. 24th, 2011 at 8:58 am
Crud from those that are only on fox…laura who??? I never watch….but sounds like she and the limpbow and the quitter are all priming the pump for similiar acting Islamaphobe action..in the USA..
Domestic terrorism…from the right rabid religious fanatics…Congressional terrorists we already have from repub baggers!
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Chris
Jul. 24th, 2011 at 8:44 pm
Laura Ingrahm (I don’t really care how her name is spelled) either way if this was a pre-knowing-who-the-killer-is, Then I can understand her saying this. Norway is a HUGE supporter of the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. Which is why people automatically jumped to the conclusion it was a Muslim Extremist. Notice that she said 10 people were found dead on the island, that means it was early in the investigation and that police had yet to reveal that it was a Norwegian himself. By the way his attacks were not because of his religion. They were attacks on the Labor Party.
I too am one off the great Repub Baggers and I am damn proud of it! I don’t just jump the gun I read the facts from as many different news sources and examine the story. By the way if you ever met a REAL Republican in life you would probably get along with them and never even know they were Republican.
With much love
-Chris
P.S. If the allegations against Mr. Murdoch are true than it is truly disgusting what he did, and he should be jailed (along with many politicians & CEO’s (Including AIG, and GM, and BP!!!)
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debracaballero
Jul. 25th, 2011 at 11:11 am
The thing is, a reputable news station would never base news on an assumption.
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paulabflat
Jul. 24th, 2011 at 8:26 am
spam, spam, spam, spam, spam, spam, spam…
that’s what i thought when i saw the picture of ingraham. where does fox find these women?
the bombing is remarkable in its striking similarity to oklahoma city. when i first heard of it and saw the first images, i immediately thought of mcvey and that norway had its own homegrown problem.
i wouldn’t have thought that the old saw about first impressions would apply to this kind of thing.
right wing or left wing. both think killing is the answer so there’s very little, if any, difference.
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paulabflat
Jul. 24th, 2011 at 8:32 am
one more thing. as cowards go, this man has no equal.
shooting defenseless, unarmed young people.
i don’t care if this man left a manifesto of 3,000 pages. nowhere in it, with no words known to man, could this outrage have been successfully defended as “necessary.”
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Hrafnkell Haraldsson
Jul. 24th, 2011 at 8:40 am
I strongly disagree. Where are the left-wing militias? Where are the left wing mass murderers killing for ideology and religion?
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soxfan4life
Jul. 24th, 2011 at 9:36 am
Where are the left wing mass murderers killing for ideology and religion?
Well let’s see, Stalin and Mao are already dead. And then there is the left’s genocide against the unborn, that’s pretty much an ideology thing.
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Reynardine
Jul. 24th, 2011 at 9:46 am
Just for that, you know what, Sox? Back in 78, while working as a bench assembler in Silicon Valley, I won three dinners, a nude calender, a houseplant, and a whole stack of dirty magazines by betting on the New York Yankees. Nyaaa!
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soxfan4life
Jul. 24th, 2011 at 9:53 am
I’m sorry, going with the NY Yankees leaves a mark that will never come clean. :))
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Reynardine
Jul. 24th, 2011 at 10:19 am
I knew that’d smart.
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Shiva (Moderator)
Jul. 24th, 2011 at 10:34 am
The lefts genocide? Not hardly. The left beleives in freedom of choice. At the same time, its not just people from the “left” that get abortions. Duirng the dark ages when Bush was president and he was going to attack abortion, there was a large contingent of GOP women that attacked him for taking away their right to choose. You live on talking points.
Stalin and Mao were hardly left wing. Like Hitler they appeared left wing yet were very right wing in actions
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Hrafnkell Haraldsson
Jul. 24th, 2011 at 10:56 am
Let’s also talk about the right-wing murder of women who are not allowed to have abortions even when their lives are threatened. Let’s talk about the right’s denial of birth control, sex ed, and other measures that would reduce the need for abortions. This “both sides are guilty” is a cop-out and an ill-reas0oned one at that.
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soxfan4life
Jul. 24th, 2011 at 11:09 am
A communist hardly left wing, and I live on talking points? If the left believes in “choice” why the attacks on people who choose life? Remember the outrage over the Tim Tebow ad during the Super Bowl?
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Reynardine
Jul. 24th, 2011 at 11:33 am
I don’t do football, and in recent years, not much baseball, but what Hitler, Stalin, Mussolini, and Mao (and Franco… and Salazar… and Pinochet… and Mugabe… and a whole slew of tyrranasters…) were and are, is totalitarians. To wit, they couldn’t stand it if they didn’t have total control over the minds, bodies, souls, and every detail of life over everyone except themselves, whom they saw no need to control at all. People like that can invoke any ideology at all to justify themselves, including “liberty”, “democracy”, and “Christianity”. They above all like “patriotism”, though. The reality has nothing to do with what they’re invoking.
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MsJoanne
Jul. 24th, 2011 at 12:00 pm
This is a reply to SoxFan: the left attacks the supposed prolifers not for their beliefs but for demanding their beliefs be inflicted upon everyone. Same for fundamentalist Christians, who are no better than the Taliban; those who insist that everyone follow their religion as the only one that is right and good and acceptable. When your beliefs become The Only Acceptable Way, then yes, I’ll attack that with my dying breath.
Go White Sox.
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soxfan4life
Jul. 24th, 2011 at 12:11 pm
Same for fundamentalist Christians, who are no better than the Taliban;
Because fundamentalist Christians are hanging 7 and 8 year old children and practicing female genital mutilation and honor killing? Why not bring in the Nazi’s as well?
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Sarah Jones
Jul. 24th, 2011 at 12:18 pm
Who is killing women who choose to give birth? NO ONE.
“Attacking” is the word you used to equivocate this with the left “attacking” people who choose life. The murder of 98+ young children by a right wing Christian extremist is not the same thing as advocating for the choice and health of a woman.
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mikeyhatesit
Jul. 24th, 2011 at 1:33 pm
@Soxfan,
I think a major difference in attacks from left wingers is that they tend to be verbal, as opposed to physical. “Attack” is too versatile a word to be used, when it is conflated with “assault”; FOXNews and the like use “attack” interchangeably when referencing liberal verbal assertiveness (and even agression) from talking heads as being equivalent to conservative physical assaults- such as shooting cops on a college campus out of a fear of the loss of gun ownership rights.
[Sidebar: the right-wing media IS the Mainstream Media, seeing as they command a larger market share than leftwing and alternative outlets. The Fairness Doctrine (and the upcoming Net Neutrality battle) so maligned by conservatives is what got Rush Limbaugh and his 'descendants' on the air in the first place.]
Consider the fact that there have been, in the USA especially, more terror acts committed by christians- as opposed to muslims. Luckily the Hutaree were stopped before they could do anything. There aren’t that many liberals talking about a Second Amendment solution to Dominionists, nor would they think it acceptable to put crosshairs on a map of abortion providers. Ignorance and buzzwords are a dangerous combination. Glenn Beck inspired a man to attack the Tides Foundation, with fatal results.
Even when keeping the fight on a verbal field, liberals might not always be perfectly behaved, but they do seem -as a group- to use evidence from science and history for their arguments, and not rely on emotional reactions that have a foundation of “it’s in the bible, so there! Plus, you’re one of them ad hominosexuals, too!”
Regardless of the person’s faith, Fundamentalism is an ideology that doesn’t allow for the existence of other modes of thought. The very reason the Puritans left England (or kicked out for being prigs) somehow bolsters the modern theocatic movement into believing that religious freedom only refers to christians, and only certain ones at that. Without that shrill refrain, Mitt Romney might not have flip-flopped on his healthcare reform to pander to voters who will discount him automatically on the basis of his mormonism.
The “no religious test” clause in the constitution guarantees the right of our muslim and atheist politicians to serve in office. So explain to me why they are being singled out for re-election on the campaign promise that Ellison will implement Sharia law? How do you explain the fact that metro detroit (where I grew up), home to the largest middle eastern population, has yet to over-run the tri-county area with guns and hijabs? The only concession is the call to prayer, which is no different than ringing the bell for church.
Any government that restricts voting for particular groups (blacks, women, college students), or reserves various privileges for an elite class (tax relief, pardons for sex crimes, dachaus) is not liberal, no matter what they claim. Soviet communism fell because the have-nots outnumbered the haves; National Socialism is not a true socialism because it only gives rights to a specific class of people. The days of the Weimar Republic are being echoed by modern Republicans and their Tea Party enforcers. “But we don’t hate jews, so equivocating us with Nazis is a bad thing! Muslims and gays and women who like sex for the orgasms are the real threat! And the President is Muslim whose mom doesn’t have legal rights even though she’s an American citizen!”
Calling abortion genocide is an ignorant point. It isn’t a systematic action against a particular demographic group. The Oslo Incident would in fact be an example of that, especially when the terrorist admires the actions of the Serbs. Breivik was hoping to fire the first rounds in a cleansing war, something often fantasized on a disturbing number of right-wing forums. Here’s a handy aggregation of the unpatriotic thoughts, anti-constitutional hatred of civil rights, and violence desired by ignorant white supremacists and Dominionists: fstdt.com
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crsytalwolfakacaligrl
Jul. 24th, 2011 at 5:30 pm
The lefts “Genocide” of the unborn?
A$$Hat do you know WHAT GENOCIDE is???? Ask the Armenians, before you throw words around you know nothing about.
I’m damn sick of your stupid straw-man arguments!
RWNJ did the Killing at OK and now in Norway…they are looking for MORE of them!
Buck up or STFU!
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soxfan4life
Jul. 24th, 2011 at 5:41 pm
You are sick of straw man arguments and offer nothing in return? How about a nut job did the killing in Norway? As for the left wing mass murders, again one would have to go quite a ways to rack up the body counts of Stalin, Mao, and Pol pot. And if you know what genocide is, why wouldn’t you classify abortion as genocide on the unborn? And despite your rallying cries since Reagan was elected, the SCOTUS still hasn’t overturned Roe vs.Wade, and even if they did, which they should as it is a states issue, what states would make it illegal? Given our current financial situation it certainly shouldn’t be federally funded.
(a) Killing members of the group;
(b) Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group;
(c) Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part;
(d) Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group;
(e) Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group.
With the exception of part E, it meets the stated requirements.
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Sarah Jones
Jul. 24th, 2011 at 5:48 pm
WHat are you saying about the mass murderer in Norway? He was a right wing Christian who got all jacked up by Atlas Shrugged and the stuff people like Palin’s Jews for Jesus lady posted.
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Shiva (Moderator)
Jul. 24th, 2011 at 6:10 pm
Sox, there is no federal funding for abortions. We have laws saying so.
Once again, Stalin, Mao, and Pol pot. were not left wing. Wake up
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james
Jul. 24th, 2011 at 6:07 pm
@sox
Good job trying to retrofit genocide to fit abortion. You’d make a top-class troll.
However, surely you realize what genocide actually means. It’s the killing of an entire class of people. Its aim is to make them extinct. For abortion to be genocide, its aim would have to be the eventual extinction of the entire class, so that there would never again be an unborn baby…
Just ridiculous sir. Ridiculous.
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paulabflat
Jul. 24th, 2011 at 12:12 pm
you know. after i hit post comment, and i saw what i had written, that sentence did bother me. don’t know why i wrote it that way. musta been sleepy still.
extremism does seem to cling to the right, doesn’t it? perhaps anything that leans towards extremism is, essentially, rightward. after all, go far enough east and you’re in the west. go far enough left and you’re right.
it would seem.
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John Hall
Jul. 24th, 2011 at 2:16 pm
I really don’t care whether this Breivik is a right winger or left winger, he is scum. What I tire of is the outright denial by the defenders of Christianity is that people allied to their religion is capable of violent acts in the name of their God. Accept that it happens and denounce the people who commit the acts. Stop trying to deny and deflect.
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paulabflat
Jul. 24th, 2011 at 5:41 pm
agreed.
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Reynardine
Jul. 24th, 2011 at 8:31 am
Anders Behring Breivik is so impecibly Nordic that, if he had existed seventy years ago, Hitler would have sent him to a Lebensborn farm and used him for stud. He is an avowed “conservative fundamentalist Christian” and went on this killing spree to destroy non- Christians, non- Nordics, evil libruls, and Mooslins. In short, he was and did everything little Laura would like to be and do if only she had a johnson, so I imagine what she really meant is that there are people who provoked his murderous rage by living while being Muslim.
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Reynardine
Jul. 24th, 2011 at 8:33 am
“impeccably”. Damn, I’m running out of coffee.
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Hrafnkell Haraldsson
Jul. 24th, 2011 at 8:40 am
Green tea is the answer :)
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Reynardine
Jul. 24th, 2011 at 9:01 am
I have plain old pekoe, and there’s even a Camillia bohea in town, from which you can get a good chittagong or assam type. Not enough caffeine in any of them.
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AaronChgo
Jul. 24th, 2011 at 12:29 pm
What makes everyone so sure she DOESN’T have a johnson? But seriously, what’s with her makeover? Several years ago, she would appear on “Fox and Friends” or “O’Reilly Factor” wearing a mannish sweater vest and no makeup and barking stridently and viciously.
Now, she seems to be shilling herself as Ms. Glamour Puss, with the makeup and skimpy dresses and making the talk-show circuits dressed like a Holiday Inn cocktail waitress. Guess she must be trying to fill the vacuum that Ann Coulter left…
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Sarah Jones
Jul. 24th, 2011 at 1:48 pm
My god, I thought she WAS Ann Coulter. There are two of them?
And who on the Right finds these women attractive? We might want to have the Manliness Sperm Police check up on them, when they get done sweeping the country for women who have had a “suspicious” miscarriage. No matter is too small when it comes to imposing government on our reproductive systems, after all — and we can’t have right wing men who will fail to make babies because they have a lust for men sublimated into desire for Laura and Ann. Arrest them all! (/s for those new here)
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Shiva (Moderator)
Jul. 24th, 2011 at 9:06 am
Laura Ingraham is indeed an idiot tool. Fox will never change from its mission of being the helpful tool of those who want to destroy the very fabric of what allows them to broadcast
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DannyEastVillage
Jul. 24th, 2011 at 9:52 am
So Laura’s as liar. That’s news?
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The Platzner Post
Jul. 24th, 2011 at 10:24 am
Why does anyone watch Faux News???
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Hrafnkell Haraldsson
Jul. 24th, 2011 at 10:30 am
Sadly, millions still do and they are influenced by what they hear and see. In my city, every damn fast food restaurant as well as doctors and dentists offices have FOX News on all day. You can’t avoid it even if you try.
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Cathy
Jul. 24th, 2011 at 10:47 am
I agree–there should be a law that says if you don’t tell the truth, or if your statements incite violence, your license will be revoked. Or at least, the FCC could refuse to let Fox call themselves a news channel since opinions and rhetoric by talking heads is NOT news!
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Cathy
Jul. 24th, 2011 at 10:49 am
I am not against free speech, but you are not allowed to cry fire in a crowded theater without consequences!
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soxfan4life
Jul. 24th, 2011 at 11:21 am
Where would that leave MSNBC? What statements from Fox News have incited violence? Something like President Obama telling his supporters to get in people’s faces who disagree with healthcare reform? For people who supposedly support the First Amendment, you don’t seem very tolerant of Free Speech that doesn’t conform to your beliefs. Funny how one side of the argument points out the bias of the media but doesn’t call for them to be shut down, and the other side supposedly supports free speech but calls for Fox to be shut down.
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mikeyhatesit
Jul. 24th, 2011 at 2:46 pm
Hmmm. I already mentioned the Tides Foundation, inspired by Beck. Bill O’Reilly practically invented the “Tiller the Baby Killer” meme, and made Scott Roeder a national hero among Dominionists. Alex Jones is a frequent guest, with his own network. Rick Santorum wants abortion providers charged with a crime, despite the pesky fact it is legal. The film “Gates of Hell” glorifies the murder of abortion doctors, a view rooted in right wing fundamentalism. Sharron Angle thinks Second Amendment solutions are a great way to fix things. Gabreille Giffords had her office attacked well before she was shot.
Byron Williams, James von Brunn, Richard Poplawski, James Adkisson, Walter Fitzpatrick & Darren Huff, Tim Proffitt, Nigel Coleman, Shawna Forde & Jason Bush, Mike Vanderboegh, Flip Benham, James Johnston, and Charles Wilson? All people who, whether as leaders who advocate violence, or consumers of right wing media who’ve have committed it.
This doesn’t include the silent assent in regards to the molestation of children by religious leaders, criminal assault records on women by republican candidates or their staffers, or the dismissal of fraud & ethics violations by a known sexual harasser to discredit a stupendous lapse in judgement- which pales in regard to a politician ordering prostitutes while at work.
The comparison: Students protest with chants and occupy the deans office, or middle class workers surround the state captol. Some people chain themselves to a tree; or animal rightists wave signs, throw paint, maybe drown a whaler. That’s no less irresponsible, but the frequency with which left-wingers actually commit assault appears to be significantly lower when compared to right wing violence: Timothy McVeigh, 9/11, London Subway, Oslo…
If we have audio of a couple right-wing officials discussing ways to incite violence from the other side, that is just the tip of the iceberg.
It’s a matter of keeping your statements within the range of your personal space; not extending them via fist, brick, or bullet when you don’t have enough foundation to support your argument.
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Sarah Jones
Jul. 24th, 2011 at 3:28 pm
Excellent reply.
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soxfan4life
Jul. 24th, 2011 at 5:58 pm
Well mikeyhatesit, why not mention the shot fired through Eric Cantor’s window, surely a right wing nut job, or WI State Rep Gordon Hintz, he of the “you’re f**king dead threat on the chamber floor, then of course there is the President himself, with his I need to know who’s a$$ to kick, the GOP is holding a gun to America’s head, all right wing nut cases. And as for sexual assaults, have you checked the news lately? Anthony Weiner, David Wu, and of course the Adulterer in Chief William Jefferson Clinton. All evil right wingers. It’s easy to say your side is clean, just make them part of the other team.
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crsytalwolfakacaligrl
Jul. 24th, 2011 at 9:41 pm
Hey Troll, so do you like get OT for your paid trolling? You spew nothing but faux news bullshit.
I wish you clowns could come up with some original facts.
All of you down the the Stupid house GOP Congress get your flawed “Talking points” aka LIEs striaght from Murdoch who is being investigated for snooping and hacking and probably more and I hope they take his license away and fox news will go POOF and all of you will scurry like cockroaches when you turn on a light!
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Sarah Jones
Jul. 24th, 2011 at 10:03 pm
He and his buddy ran away when they got hit with facts.
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Reynardine
Jul. 24th, 2011 at 11:42 am
Fox can probably say any foxing thing they want on cable, but when they use the public airwaves for their broadcasts, they are supposed to operate in the public interest to deserve their license.
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soxfan4life
Jul. 24th, 2011 at 12:21 pm
What is Fox’s broadcast channel doing differently than ABC, NBC, or CBS? Other than not openly pushing the Democratic/Progressive talking points?
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Hrafnkell Haraldsson
Jul. 24th, 2011 at 1:45 pm
soxfan, ABC, NBC and CBS are not pushing Democratic/Progressive talking points. Like the rest of the MSM, they are right-leaning. That you think they are left-leaning demonstrates how far to the right you are.
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soxfan4life
Jul. 24th, 2011 at 2:23 pm
Like the rest of the MSM, they are right-leaning. That you think they are left-leaning demonstrates how far to the right you are.
If they leaned any more to the left, we could call them Pravda. When was the last time any of them took the current President to task for his leadership failure, his disastrous economic and foreign policies, his failure to unite the country or even his failing to fulfill campaign promises? Rather than lead off with a story about the Senate or President failing to come up with a plan, they talk about the House wasting time voting for Cut, Cap, and Balance and how it is a symbolic gesture. Pretty right wing if you ask me.
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ThePresidentialCandidates.us
Jul. 24th, 2011 at 12:16 pm
This is a terrorist attack. Right wingers are some of the most dangerous people in the world in the 21st century.
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Sarah Jones
Jul. 24th, 2011 at 12:24 pm
The DHS had a warning out about Right WIng domestic terrorists but they revoked it after the right flipped out because they felt insulted. Never mind that it was shown to be accurate. Every time we have a Democrat in office, the Right lights a fire under their followers until they bomb or shoot people but the media is afraid to connect the dots here.
Let’s see, this month we had the guy who listened to Rush and Hannity who killed an old woman on his way to kill the PResident over the “debt ceiling”, a few months ago we had the right wing militia member connected with the AIP (Sarah Palin’s party and with strong connections to Joe Miller- both Tea Partiers) arrested for his plot to kill a judge, in Jan we had the Arizona shooter who was spouting crazy far right wing bs about gold and New World Order (Alex Jones stuff) who went on a shooting spree aimed at a Democrat, we had the guy who shot a two police officers who should have been in the data base of right wing extremists but that data base doesn’t exist because we didn’t want to hurt anyone’s feelings……….that’s just this year. The last two years have seen way too many examples of this (the church shooter who was listening to Right wing radio hosts and decided that anyone who wasn’t with him was an enemy so he went to Universalist church and shot and killed people), the Nazi museum shooter……
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soxfan4life
Jul. 24th, 2011 at 2:26 pm
Still trying to keep the Jared Loughner was a right wing extremist thing going? Sometimes people are just crazy and it has nothing to do with political leanings. As far as right and left, the left with Stalin and Mao have a much higher body count.
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Sarah Jones
Jul. 24th, 2011 at 2:31 pm
Dude, he posted that stuff on YouTube. Still trying to keep it a secret?
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crsytalwolfakacaligrl
Jul. 24th, 2011 at 10:03 pm
Sarah he’s just a paid troll, he’s wasting our time with Bullshit!
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Sarah Jones
Jul. 24th, 2011 at 10:06 pm
He sure didn’t earn his pay today. Lame little brain. the GOP must be running short on cash.
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Shiva (Moderator)
Jul. 24th, 2011 at 2:34 pm
” left with Stalin and Mao have a much higher body count.”
And you are still on the thing that stalin and Mao were on the left. Possibly even more rediculous
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Sarah Jones
Jul. 24th, 2011 at 2:36 pm
Heh. Please try not to notice logical fallacy fails:-) Look! Over here! all that glitters is gold and can also help you stock your End Times Bunker!
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mikeyhatesit
Jul. 24th, 2011 at 3:03 pm
So James McVay, who learned his catechism while in prison listening to right-wing radio, saying his elderly victim was collateral damage is acceptable to you?
Stalin and Mao aren’t liberals, especially not in the modern sense. The only way to use them as rhetorical points involves demonstrating a style of governance. The ideals they espoused as either communist or socialist have nothing to do with suppression of free speech with physical violence. Stalin’s era still had an elite class of bureaucrats who exploited existing policy or rewrote them to favor themselves. Sound familiar? Lobbyists for Koch and other Fortune 400 members have paid to be present when legislation is being written, to ensure their particular industry (whether it be oil drilling or fracking, for example) has as few restrictions as possible.
I really think you’re missing the point on liberal: most definitions begin with the term ‘generous’, as in: ensuring everyone has a liberal serving of mashed potatoes and gravy -not just the guy sitting at the head of the table. http://www.thefreedictionary.com/liberal
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crsytalwolfakacaligrl
Jul. 24th, 2011 at 10:13 pm
Mikeyhatesit,
These clowns have a different definition of “liberal”.
I was *Shocked* reading the book “C Street” how these clowns twist the meaning of Liberal.
Yes your (the) definition is right.
Their’s based on a RWNJ Fundy prejudice as meaning ” atheist, godless, immoral” and or course anyone who doesn’t believe in THEIR god!!!
These clowns have a complete different meaning. Of course they are all home-schooled and not exposed to a “liberal” education where there might just learn something but a closed curriculum written by the church…
That’s why these clowns are Clueless! also,too, Fox is their only station and clowns like Limpballz, Vannity, beckerman is the extent of their radio listening.
That’s why they call themselves Cons=closed minded, closed down.
RWNJ’s!
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Reynardine
Jul. 24th, 2011 at 1:39 pm
Factually, honor killings were common in Mediterranean Europe and parts of Eastern Europe right through WW II, and didn’t really end in Spain or Portugal till the deaths of Franco and Salazar. As for mutilating little girls, that custom appears to have been brought into Egypt by the Hyksos in the late second millenium BC from an area roughly congruent with present Kurdistan, where it is still practiced (it seems to have originated in Colchis, though apparently unknown in present-day Georgia). From Egypt, it spread up to the headwaters of the Nile and from there down the Congo, and to coastal areas in immediate communication with the deltas. It is not geographically congruent with Islam, long antedates it, is practiced by Christians and animists of the region, and at one time also by Jews of these countries, though in the early centuries of the Christian era, a rabbi halted the practice. Sicily, by the way, had both honor killings and associated vendettas at least into the sixties. this stuff is neither Christianity nor Islam; it’s feudalism.
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Shiva (Moderator)
Jul. 24th, 2011 at 3:16 pm
Even worse, read this FoxLies Article and there is not once is the work Christian used. Not Once. It was all about getting rid of the muslims to them. And even when it said he would punissh those who strayed from Norwegian society as he see’s it they wont mention christianity
http://www.foxnews.com/world/2011/07/24/norwegian-suspect-wanted-european-anti-muslim-crusade/
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sdrick
Jul. 24th, 2011 at 7:24 pm
Soxfan4life has taken too many balls to the head . . .
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novenator
Jul. 24th, 2011 at 9:01 pm
The right wing has such a severe case of cognitive dissonance it’s not even funny. They are literally trying to say there is a conspiracy on Facebook to change this guy’s profile after he did this to “paint him as a conservative christian”. http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2011/07/who-added-christian-and-conservative-to-norway-shooters-facebook-page-yesterday.html
All the usual WND-style assclowns are taking the bait, once again.
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neil
Jul. 24th, 2011 at 9:32 pm
Pay no mind to sasquatch ingraham.She is just another mindless Ailes parrot.
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eclecticbrotha
Jul. 24th, 2011 at 11:05 pm
Laura and FOX are doing exactly what they’ve been doing since 2008: fabricating stories and manufacturing the rage necessary to inspire more violence against Muslims. The fact they ran the recorded show even after news got out that it was a Blonde blue-eyed Christian killing Muslim children is not a coincidence.
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PhoenixXIII
Jul. 25th, 2011 at 4:36 am
This is why other countries hate us….
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Mikeyhatesit
Jul. 26th, 2011 at 12:41 am
Caligirl- even more entertaining is the concept that a truly liberal education would teach them all points of view- not only left and moderate, but the right-wing ideologies they assert are the sole correct way to see the world.
The conservatives I know get quite upset when I point that out to them. I’ve come to like that vein in their forehead!
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