S&P downgraded America’s debt because the Republicans have made the process of governing so dysfunctional that Washington can no longer be trusted to agree to make even the most basic decisions.
The S&P report laid out their reasoning,
We lowered our long-term rating on the U.S. because we believe that the prolonged controversy over raising the statutory debt ceiling and the related fiscal policy debate indicate that further near-term progress containing the growth in public spending, especially on entitlements, or on reaching an agreement on raising revenues is less likely than we previously assumed and will remain a contentious and fitful process. We also believe that the fiscal consolidation plan that Congress and the Administration agreed to this week falls short of the amount that we believe is necessary to stabilize the general government debt burden by the middle of the decade.
Our lowering of the rating was prompted by our view on the rising public debt burden and our perception of greater policymaking uncertainty, consistent with our criteria (see “Sovereign Government Rating Methodology and Assumptions,” June 30, 2011, especially Paragraphs 36-41). Nevertheless, we view the U.S. federal government’s other economic, external, and monetary credit attributes, which form the basis for the sovereign rating, as broadly unchanged.
The political brinksmanship of recent months highlights what we see as America’s governance and policymaking becoming less stable, less effective, and less predictable than what we previously believed. The statutory debt ceiling and the threat of default have become political bargaining chips in the debate over fiscal policy. Despite this year’s wide-ranging debate, in our view, the differences between political parties have proven to be extraordinarily difficult to bridge, and, as we see it, the resulting agreement fell well short of the comprehensive fiscal consolidation program that some proponents had envisaged until quite recently. Republicans and Democrats have only been able to agree to relatively modest savings on discretionary spending while delegating to the Select Committee decisions on more comprehensive measures. It appears that for now, new revenues have dropped down on the menu of policy options. In addition, the plan envisions only minor policy changes on Medicare and little change in other entitlements, the containment of which we and most other independent observers regard as key to long-term fiscal sustainability.
Reality denying Republicans have already tried to shift the blame to Obama for the debt downgrade, but it is important to state the obvious. If Republicans would have passed a clean debt ceiling extension, the downgrade would have never happened. The GOP’s political recipe for bringing Obama down of one part chaos and one part obstruction was never going to allow that to happen. Many Republicans wanted the debt downgrade because it plays into their political strategy for 2012.
Whether or not S&P’s numbers are off, and with Standard and Poor’s track record they very well could be, the political point can’t be ignored. S&P downgraded our debt because our political leaders can’t agree on anything. Standard and Poor’s said that the US still can pay its debt, but the Republicans in Washington can’t be trusted to allow the government to function.
The Republican caused dysfunction in DC was one of the main reasons why S&P downgraded. They had already let it be known that a downgrade was possible if the US didn’t agree to the $4 trillion deficit reduction package, but would anyone be talking about using debt as criteria for a downgrade if Republicans had not linked it to the debt ceiling? I doubt it.
The S&P can be described as a troubled and flawed organization at best. They took a justified beating from Democrats for their role in helping to cause the financial crash of 2008. It wouldn’t be much of a surprise if the people at S&P saw this as a chance for a bit of reputation enhancement and political payback.
In economic terms, S&P is one of three ratings agencies. As long as the other two agencies keep the US rating at AAA there should be little impact from S&P’s decision. The biggest impact will be likely felt politically, not economically.
Republicans can try to blame Obama all they want, but they the ones who ginned up a crisis out of thin air, and they are party that has forced the United States of America’s debt to be downgraded for the first time in this nation’s glorious history.
The message to Obama and the Democrats is simple. They can’t fix this. Republicans are hell bent on making sure that the economy doesn’t recover. This reality leaves Democrats with two choices. They can either battle with the Republicans thus adding to the gridlock that is trashing the economy, or they can compromise and flush the economy down the drain.
It is a lose-lose situation that has no hope of improving unless the voters wake up and remove the Republicans from the House majority in 2012. Until then the American people are going to force fed a buffet of embarrassment, humiliation, and failure prepared by the master chefs of economic destruction in the Republican Party.
Eat up America. This is government that you voted for in 2010.


newmeximan
Aug. 5th, 2011 at 11:13 pm
There was a plan offered by Democrats and Moderates that would have cut OVER $4 trillion over the next ten years. It called for phasing out tax deductions and credits that Grover Norquist equates to a tax increase.
Never mind that the Bush/Cheney tax cuts were temporary, and should have expired in 2009. Never mind that the GOP takes a pledge to serve and protect the Constitution, not a tax pledge.
Let the GOP be reminded every day until election day that there was a $4 trillion deficit reduction plan, but they refused to approve it.
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Shiva (Moderator)
Aug. 5th, 2011 at 11:16 pm
And part of the reason we were just downgraded is that we are cutting too fast. All this is bull. We need jobs to get us out of this, and if the corps cant because of low demand, the government has to make them
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Reynardine
Aug. 5th, 2011 at 11:24 pm
I wish President Obama had left Bin Ladin’s head in Grover Norquist’s bed, and by now, I bet the President wishes that, too.
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Shiva (Moderator)
Aug. 5th, 2011 at 11:39 pm
Amen
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Cathy
Aug. 5th, 2011 at 11:35 pm
Great response! We need to make sure Repubs are reminded over and over that they are responsible for this whole fiasco. And Democrats and Independents need to show solidarity and support for our President. The majority of voters agreed with the President’s grand plan and yet we got backed into a corner. ??????????? Look at the mess we have now—we had the power to control the debate, but it wasn’t enough this time. But it HAS to be next time or??????????????????????
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Stephen
Aug. 6th, 2011 at 10:59 pm
What poo pile are you eating from, the mess is mostly Democrat caused. All of your Senators and Congressmen caused this with extreme spending. Wish I could raise my debt limit every time I overspent my budget. One term is enough!!!!!!!!
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Shiva (Moderator)
Aug. 6th, 2011 at 11:01 pm
LOL
Given that the Bush wars and the Bush tax exemptions put us in debt, its hardly a Dem fault thing. Learn history
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Stephen
Aug. 6th, 2011 at 11:09 pm
I have a PHD in History and a Masters in Political Science. Is that enough for you, or would you even consider the 16 years of teaching at a University enough :P
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Shiva (Moderator)
Aug. 6th, 2011 at 11:34 pm
Stephen, that doesnt make you smart about everything.
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Stephen
Aug. 6th, 2011 at 11:04 pm
My comment says “Your comment s awaiting moderation.” Does this mean “Censorship?”
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Shiva (Moderator)
Aug. 6th, 2011 at 11:33 pm
Stephen, the first time you post here your post goes to moderation. You may now notice that they are not in moderation. This goes for everyone, no matter who they are. You may now loosen your seatbelt
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laut
Aug. 8th, 2011 at 2:43 pm
When 85% of US Citizens were for Bush tax exparation for the 1%, and Boehner was the leader of shooting that down just as much as the Tea Party. Boehner was disrectpful to the American Voters when he walked out and refused to compromise. Boehner and the Republicans, including the Tea Party, are responsibel for the downgrade in the US Credit Rating. In addition Bush/Cheney Republicans are responsible for spending ten trillion dollars,to create this debt crisis and now the Republicans are not willing to give an inch to help the economy. We need to MARCH ON WASHINGTON AND DEMAND THAT CONGRESS HAS TO HAVE THE SAME HEALTHCARE the rest of us have , and that they vote themselves a big paycut like the rest of the country has had to suffer, plus we need to organize and strategise to get these Republicans who are Elitist and blatently disrespectful to the majority of US Citizens who wanted to let the tax expire for the 1%. PLEASE ORGANIZE and PROTEST and MARCH on Washington.
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Laurence
Aug. 8th, 2011 at 9:49 pm
I wish people like you would read every so often. Instead of spouting whatever rhetoric Rush Limbaugh & the Murdoch puppets at Fox News feed you. Democrats didnt spend $3.2-4 trillion on Iraq, Afghanistan, and Pakistan. A bill which continues to mount.
Former Treasury Secretary Paul O’Neill tried to warn Vice President Dick Cheney that growing budget deficits-expected to top $500 billion this fiscal year alone-posed a threat to the economy. Cheney cut him off. “You know, Paul, Reagan proved deficits don’t matter,.
You Tea Party Weirdo’s don’t know if your coming or going. At least until you get your orders from Shaun Hannity
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steve
Aug. 6th, 2011 at 2:17 am
So what your saying is that the decission has absoutely nothing to do with spending? S&P said that the debt bill recently passed by Congress was not enough to stabilize the nation’s debt crisis. So we should have spent MORE? Really?
“The downgrade reflects our opinion that the fiscal consolidation plan that Congress and the Administration recently agreed to falls short of what, in our view, would be necessary to stabilize the government’s medium-term debt dynamics”
“Since then, we have changed our view of the difficulties in bridging the gulf between the political parties over fiscal policy, which makes us pessimistic about the capacity of Congress and the Administration to be able to leverage their agreement this week into a broader fiscal consolidation plan that stabilizes the government’s debt dynamics any time soon”
“The outlook on the long-term rating is negative. We could lower the long-term rating to ‘AA’ within the next two years if we see that less reduction in spending than agreed to, higher interest rates, or new fiscal pressures during the period result in a higher general government debt trajectory than we currently assume in our base case”
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Janet
Aug. 6th, 2011 at 8:15 am
I agree. Our inability to cut spending was also mentioned. And who is against trimming? Democrats.
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Cathy
Aug. 6th, 2011 at 11:33 am
For Steve and Janet–the increase in the debt ceiling and the debt reduction are TWO separate issues. If the debt ceiling had been increased in the spring to pay bills that Congress had already authorized we would not be in this situation. We all agree that debt reduction needs to be done, but the way this played out with Republicans was not in the best interest of the whole country. Austerity measures during our current economic climate will have a detrimental effect on many.
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steve
Aug. 6th, 2011 at 3:02 pm
Our rating was dropped because of our debt and our insistence of spending! To blame this on the Tea Party and the GOP is simply deflection and questions the intellectual honesty off the OP
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A Walkaway
Aug. 6th, 2011 at 12:24 pm
Ok, why don’t you quit your job (if you have one), turn down unemployment, food stamps, and everything else – AND SEE HOW YOU LIKE LIFE THEN!!!
(Or maybe I should say – welcome to what poverty in America feels like!)
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steve
Aug. 6th, 2011 at 3:04 pm
I have a job and I’m actually trying to find another. I cant pay my bills as it is. Gas is up food is up. Your post makes absoutely no sence.
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Russell Dee
Aug. 6th, 2011 at 1:54 pm
yea our high debt was mentioned but it is not what caused the downgrade. the downgrade was caused by the GOP/tea-party intransigence. That was the key issue in the downgrade. If the tea-party/GOP had not protracted the thing and had not created such a hostile impasse then there wouldn’t have been a downgrade and the downgrade will needlessly cost us tens of billions of dollars in higher interest fees. The tea-party/GOP just threw a lot of our money away on absolutely nothing. We will get nothing for that lost money.
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steve
Aug. 6th, 2011 at 3:13 pm
Really? Our credit rating was downgraded because our political leaders couldn’t work out partisan issues within a debate on spending and taxation? Really! so what your saying is that if the GOP just simply allowed the goverment to spend spend spend and tax more from the rich our rating would have not been downgraded? Really? So let me get you right. We spend another 4 trillion dollars and bring in 1 trillion from taxes which puts us 3 trillion further in the hole and our debt becomes 18 trillion and this is a good thing for The American people and Investors and has no bearing as to how our credit rating is set? LOL Try that with your credit card and see how that works for you. However it is a sound plan if your looking to economically destroy the country.
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Jason Easley
Aug. 6th, 2011 at 3:30 pm
The deficit is completely unrelated to the debt ceiling. It is a false construct that has ZERO to do with the debt ceiling. No, the good thing for America would have been a clean debt ceiling bill followed by bi-partisan debt reduction effort. Putting the two together and holding the global economy hostage has caused the financial markets to mistrust our basic ability to govern, and that is why Republicans are to blame for the downgrade. The GOP caused this crisis.
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Shiva (Moderator)
Aug. 6th, 2011 at 4:28 pm
You might want to read what the S&P said in their decision. It primarily referred to a total lack of leadership between the two houses being the reason they dropped it. And yes, when corporations canot supply jobs the government can and has many times in the past. When you know nothing about a subject dont talk about it
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Russell Dee
Aug. 6th, 2011 at 1:50 pm
In my previous post above i said, “By protracting the debate and making the debate so hostile the GOP/tea-party made S & P believe that there is a chance that we will be able to reach crucial compromises regarding future economic issues.” I meant to say that “By protracting the debate and making the debate so hostile the GOP/tea-party made S & P believe that there is a chance that we will be UNABLE to reach crucial compromises regarding future economic issues.” It was the nature of the debate that caused S & P to downgrade us. It was the characteristics of the debate. It was not the degree of debt that got us downgraded, although I do agree that the debt is high and needs to be reduced. But that is not what caused the downgrade. The key reason for the downgrade is that the tea-party and GOP appeared at many times to be unwilling to compromise and really did not do much compromising in the end. At many times it appeared that the GOP/tea-party was willing to default – not pay the government’s bills. If it looks like you won’t pay your bills then you will get downgraded. Tea-partiers/GOP does not get it. They just cost our country tens of billions of dollars in higher interest fees needlessly.
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might0
Aug. 6th, 2011 at 3:18 pm
A TRULY LATE TRUTH
The Tea Party did not care if the country’s credit rating was downgraded. They were willing to risk a credit downgrade if they didn’t get the budget cuts they demanded. The Tea Party wanted budget cuts on the programs of their choosing and no others. Unfortunately due to the Tea Party’s unwillingness to compromise, Congress was forced to pass an inadequate last minute bill raising the debt ceiling, and we also received a credit downgrade. This was all due to the Tea Party candidates in Congress.
S&P:
“The downgrade reflects our opinion that the fiscal consolidation plan that Congress and the Administration recently agreed to falls short of what, in our view, would be necessary to stabilize the government’s medium-term debt dynamics.”
“More broadly, the downgrade reflects our view that the effectiveness, stability, and predictability of American policymaking and political institutions have weakened at a time of ongoing fiscal and economic challenges to a degree more than we envisioned when we assigned a negative outlook to the rating on April 18, 2011.”
“Since then, we have changed our view of the difficulties in bridging the gulf between the political parties over fiscal policy, which makes us pessimistic about the capacity of Congress and the Administration to be able to leverage their agreement this week into a broader fiscal consolidation plan that stabilizes the government’s debt dynamics any time soon.”
Okay several things here… Raising the debt ceiling right now concerns paying for the things that were ALREADY approved. This country needs to make LONG TERM changes. Liberals wanted to take a BALANCED approach to the debt problem- ie rolling back the Bush tax cuts and reforming income taxes. What the tea party freshmen were doing was just saying no no no to anything that didn’t bankrupt government. If you want to lose 50 lbs, you don’t do it by cutting off your arm. You do it by exercising a little each day. If we cut the deficit by rewarding the rich and punishing the poor, then we can say goodbye to the middle class. Liberals did not cause the housing crash, it was pro-business, put-your-head-in-the-sand attitudes. It wasn’t that long ago when we had a budget surplus (president Clinton). If want to get back to that, we need to create more JOBS. you can’t expect to do that by shutting down government. The rating agencies were looking for about $4 trillion in projected DEBT REDUCTION, which could be from spending cuts or REVENUE INCREASES. It was the GOP’s decision, led by the Tea Party, to only focus on spending without compromise.
Now, admittedly, I’m no scholar so maybe I’m missing an important detail here, but it seems clear to me that the Obama Administration and the congress are far from one entity, and there is absolutely nothing that President Obama can do to force a private corporation to hire workers if they choose not to. It is also clear that corporations have a vested interest in making sure that unemployment remains high – especially among Obama’s base. By doing so they enhance the chances of the GOP regaining power in the 2012 election, and thereby, reestablishing the status quo, a laissez-faire business environment where businesses have free rein to do whatever they like to increase profits.
In addition, the Republican Party has done everything in their power to ensure that the American people remain miserable, divided, and angry until the 2012 election. Rush Limbaugh gave them their marching orders early in Obama’s presidency. Limbaugh said, “I don’t want this to work . . . I hope he [Obama] fails.” And the Republicans have been on a single-minded mission to ensure Obama’s failure every since.
From that moment on, every initiative that President Obama has put forward to improve the economy and create new jobs has been met with fierce Republican opposition. They don’t care that America is suffering. They want America to suffer – the more the better. All they care about is making absolutely sure that President Obama doesn’t succeed in bringing relief to the misery they caused the American people under eight years of George W. Bush.
To that end, the Republicans in congress have engaged in a record number of filibusters in an attempt to block every initiative that Obama has put forward to rescue the American people. Their determination is so fierce in that regard that any Republican who fails to go along with their strategy is in dire jeopardy of being banished from congress.
And even those initiatives that did manage to miraculously survive were being blocked from implementation by Republican Governors across the country, under the pretense that rescuing America constituted “wasteful spending.” But their concern over the budget deficit didn’t prevent Republicans for a minute from holding the unemployed hostage to extend the Bush tax cut for the rich which, to a large extent, is what brought us to this point in the first place.
The Houston Chronicle reported Texas governor, Rick Perry, as saying, with regard to federal money to assist the unemployed,
“The money would come with too many strings attached. Taking the half billion would require the state to assist qualified out-of-work residents seeking part-time jobs, an idea that Perry said the state has rejected before, partly because it could discourage them from seeking full-time employment. The federal money injection would also make Texas extend benefits to more low-paid workers, and Perry said the overall expansion would force business to make higher unemployment insurance payments.”
Yet, after initially turning down federal money targeted at creating jobs, Perry eventually took the stimulus money. But instead of using it to create jobs and bring relief to the poor and middle class, he used it to plug his budget shortfalls and save his “rainy day fund.” CNN Money reports the following:
“Texas, which crafts a budget every two years, was facing a $6.6 billion shortfall for its 2010-2011 fiscal years. It plugged nearly all of that deficit with $6.4 billion in Recovery Act money, allowing it to leave its $9.1 billion rainy day fund untouched . . . Now that the stimulus money has dried up, state lawmakers last week unveiled an austere budget for the 2012-2013 fiscal years that cuts $31 billion in spending. Schools, colleges, Medicaid and social services for the needy will be hit especially hard.”
S&P warned him if there weren’t real and substantial cuts on the order of $4 trillion they would downgrade. Obama called for partisan compromise in a grand deal tea party rebuked him. So they stated the new deal gave them 95% of what they wanted with 0 taxes tea partiers will no doubt say if only he gave us more this would not have happened after patting themselves on the back “its Obamas’ fault”! And they are right too many citizens would rather destroy America then accept him as their leader how often do you hear his opponents call him my president. They say change doesn’t work when they won’t let him change anything.
Our country’s fiscal problems will not change until we change. And change we must. Everyone must sacrifice. Everyone must give back something they hold near and dear. People with high incomes must pay more taxes. People with low incomes must take lower government subsidies. Retired people must rely more on family and less on Washington.
We, collectively, caused the problem, and we, collectively, must fix this problem. There is no other solution.
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omomma
Aug. 5th, 2011 at 11:26 pm
S&P trashes U.S? And? So? Aren’t these the same dipshits that continually issued triple A ratings to failing financial institutions until the truth could no longer be hidden? A poor S&P rating just means SOMEBODY dissed Harold McGraw. Whatever…
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Caldron68
Aug. 6th, 2011 at 10:34 am
Exactly!!!!
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Oldsun
Aug. 5th, 2011 at 11:27 pm
Fox Gnus says that we need to lower the tax code to increase jobs so S&P will upgrade us again. That was Oreally’s replacement suggestion for the Obama.
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Warren G. Richards
Aug. 6th, 2011 at 5:08 pm
Jobs, jobs, jobs! Where are all the jobs that the Republican outsourcers and their Teabagger buddies campaigned on so feverishly?
Good job on the jobs, GOP-n-P!
Hang in there everyone.
Your friend,
Warren
Warren G. Richards
Mesa AZ
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jd
Aug. 5th, 2011 at 11:39 pm
i guess some people simply dont get it.
reids bill was smoke and mirrors.
dems blocked every attempt at real cuts, real reform, etc. hell, the only reason the crack head dems even considered cuts is because of nov2010. anyone who thinks the right is to blame is at best, intellectually dishonest and at worst, a blind idiot that shouldnt vote.
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Shiva (Moderator)
Aug. 5th, 2011 at 11:48 pm
Maybe so. Everyone went for it quick enough
Sorry, your attempt tp turn this on the dems who were NOT trying to take away seniors and childrens aids wont fly.
The dems didnt hold this country hostage till the last minute. The dems didnt want a default like the tea bags did. Our rating being lowered is beucase we have been cutting too fast and not raising revenues Like Obama wanted to
Your right, you just dont get it
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Russell Dee
Aug. 6th, 2011 at 1:59 pm
you’re right! The GOP/tea-party caused the debt downgrade by dragging the dispute out and the hostile nature of the dispute. S & P does not have faith in America that we can compromise and come to necessary solutions to resolve economic disagreements. That is the reason for the downgrade. And it was the tea-party/GOP that was unwilling to compromise and cooperate and so they drug the impasse to the last minute and nearly defaulted us. Thanks tea-party/GOP our interest rates will now go up and you just caused us to needlessly have to pay more for interest. It will cost us tens of billions of dollars and we will get nothing for it – the lenders will just get more interest from us. The tea-party/GOP is the enemy of our country.
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Joe
Aug. 5th, 2011 at 11:50 pm
jd , your wealthy or Tea Party, guess it don’t matter…
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Jason Easley
Aug. 6th, 2011 at 12:10 am
Once again, if Republicans stick to passing a debt ceiling bill instead of trying to ransom entitlement cuts out of the Democrats, no one is talking about a downgrade. Republicans created all of this. Please try to understand the debt ceiling and the deficit are NOT related. You won’t get me to buy into that bullshit construct.
If I were to argue the merits of the cuts with you, I would be conceding that the debt ceiling and the deficit are related, which they aren’t.
Go find a site with dumber lefties to argue with. Move along, you won’t find them here.
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Cathy
Aug. 6th, 2011 at 10:57 am
Your response shows who is the intellectually dishonest one who should not vote. Are you happy about the super rich, with their tax lawyers, paying less taxes than their secretaries? How about corporations? And WHO created the the deficit? Get real–look up the facts–we get enough talking points from the GOP legislators!
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Joe
Aug. 5th, 2011 at 11:47 pm
Is there any way to recall some of the Republicans before it’s too late for our country? The republicans are destroying our America. Why did the people put them back in charge knowing what they did to America under Bush? This is even worse than Bush it’s like having “240 Georg W Bush’s in office.” Can Americans do anything to get them out now?
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Lia
Aug. 6th, 2011 at 6:40 pm
“Why did the people put them back in charge knowing what they did to America under Bush?”
Because the 2010 election had SUCH a low turn out. Democrats watched the craziness going on with the Tea Party and many thought “There’s no way that person is going to get elected.” Democrats didn’t go out to the polls in the number that the Tea Partier did. The Tea Party candidates used fear to bring those people in.
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Eric
Aug. 8th, 2011 at 10:52 pm
Do you want to know the real reason why America elected these moronic Republicans? It’s because a lot of Americans are just plain stupid. The GOP framed the issues to make it look like everything they caused was caused by the Democrats. The GOP is also great at making stupid people think they will benefit from GOP policies like tax cuts (how many morons do you know that think they actually benefit from the top tax bracket cuts; these people are DuMB). They lack the inclination or ability to look at the issues, and vote based on fear and greed. If they had any sense, they’d realize that they are the ones the GOP is actually stoking the fear and greed AGAINST!
I fear for our country, because the people are just dumb. Moronically so.
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Reality
Aug. 6th, 2011 at 12:07 am
4 Trillion over 10 years does NOT balance the budget.
No More B.S.
Cut, Cap & Balance is what ALL Americans want.
Stop Spending More than they take in!
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Shiva (Moderator)
Aug. 6th, 2011 at 12:10 am
Cut, Cap & Balance is the worst thing going. Its far worse than the Ryan plan and no one wanted that.
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majii
Aug. 6th, 2011 at 4:32 pm
“Cut, Cap & Balance is what ALL Americans want.”
This is what someone who has only a rudimentary understanding of economics and a gross ignorance of recent polling data would say.
FACT: Most Americans want jobs!
“Which of these should be the higher priority for the nation right now: cutting government spending or creating jobs?”
Cutting spending: 29%
Creating jobs: 62%
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/08/05/us/politics/05poll.html?_r=1&hp
You really, really, should get out more, turn off Fox News, and avoid rw blogs. Their agenda is NOT your agenda. Rush Limbaugh pushes Cut, Cap, and Balance, but the programs affected by it don’t apply to him. Limbaugh will be okay whether Social Security or Medicare exists when he reaches age 65, or not, but most of his listeners WILL depend upon these programs to avoid falling into poverty in their old age.
Keep beating the old drum that republicans have the answers to our economic woes, and keep believing that the majority of Americans agree with them, but the facts show an entirely different picture. Republicans think they will escape having to accept blame for their actions, but it doesn’t seem to be the case:
http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/political-animal/2011_08/gop_public_support_drops_like031331.php
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Eric
Aug. 8th, 2011 at 10:55 pm
It would be nice if the Republicans would CLOSE ThE LOOPHOLES.
The only thing the Repubs want is more money to go to the top. And with the lowest tax rates in history for the top, where the hell are all those jobs these tax cuts were supposed to provide?
The GOP has been exposed as serving their wealthy benefactors, but there are still millions of Americans too completely dumb to see it.
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newmeximan
Aug. 6th, 2011 at 12:26 am
Will the conservative diehards posting here willingly take a 43% cut in their Social Security, and pay an increase of 43% for Medicare co-pays and an increase of 43% for their medications?
Will they also accept that National Parks will be closed 43% of the year? Will they avoid roads 43% of the time so that they don’t add to the need for maintenance, instead, driving on the shoulder?
Unless conservatives are willing to talk about increasing revenue in Cut, Cap and Balance through tax increase, they are delusional. Tax cuts have not led to increased productivity, revenue, innovation or job growth in the past 31 years. Why would it now?
Reid’s plan was half cuts and half revenue increase. A balanced approach is what we need, and most Americans do not like what the GOP is doing to the nation. Meet back here in Nov. 2012 for proof.
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Bobfr
Aug. 6th, 2011 at 1:25 am
Thought in only appropriate that I write our spectacular President and share just how I view the vile Teahadist and their newstainer enablers.
5 August 2011
The White House Online
Dear Mr President,
Thank you again for your outstanding leadership.
Regarding the S&P (farcical) downgrade, I’ve posted a few ‘tweetables’ for various colleagues to use. Many are doing so enthusiastically, I might add.
Wanted to share them with you and your team – maybe they will be helpful :)
‘Norquist treasonous pledge’s first success – US downgraded’
‘Tea Party Outperforms bin Laden in destroying US economy’
‘bin Laden no match for Boehner in wrecking US economy’
Onward!
Bob
Yes.We.Can. … DO.More.Together!
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Shelley Stockman
Aug. 6th, 2011 at 1:42 am
Well said Bob. I am going on to my twitter account right now and start tweeting
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pcinsc
Aug. 6th, 2011 at 2:10 am
“or on reaching an agreement on raising revenues”
that says a lot, IMHO
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Marty
Aug. 6th, 2011 at 7:28 am
Well looks like an obama ,”make the American people feel good and reelect me” stimulus package is out.What to do,what to do ????? NAAAAAAANNNNNCCCCYYY HELP
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DannyEastVillage
Aug. 6th, 2011 at 7:31 am
STOP THE WARS.
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Caldron68
Aug. 6th, 2011 at 10:41 am
Yes, exactly. This should be the VERY FIRST thing that gets done Monday morning. Stop the madness, bring our troops home and stop spending a billion dollars a month on bullets and bombs. Fighting an ideology with bullets is the dumbest thing we have ever done.
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aspromised
Aug. 6th, 2011 at 11:03 am
There is no arguing with people who cannot differentiate between debt ceiling and deficit, something which the GOP deliberately obfuscated. If you wish to discuss future budgets, spending and deficits there is quite obviously only one approach: a balanced one which is combination of revenue and cuts. We’ve already watched for 10 yrs how decreased revenue did not and does not work. How much lower do you have to go to appease and to PRIVE that theory is false? If you (JD) actually understood how the excessive debt came to be you would not be arguing to continue the same methodology that allowed it in the first place.
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aspromised
Aug. 6th, 2011 at 11:13 am
To Reality: I presume you reside in an alternate universe somewhere because countries, including the US, always carry debt. Corporations carry debt. That is why the “household” argument is so inappropriate. Instead of repeating the meme they have implanted in your brain go do some book-learnin’ and then you may rationally engage in discussions.
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Cathy
Aug. 6th, 2011 at 12:46 pm
Both of your responses above are right on target!
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The Platzner Post
Aug. 6th, 2011 at 12:12 pm
Until the 2012 elections we’re screwed!!!
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Brown cow
Aug. 6th, 2011 at 4:31 pm
Interesting that Steve disappeared when Jason commented. Anyway…question…If a Republican was elected as president next year, what do you think his/her first move would be to help the economy ? I have my opinion, but curious to hear what all of you think. I never fail to learn something from reading the comments.
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Cathy
Aug. 6th, 2011 at 7:08 pm
I really don’t think a GOP president would do anything to help the economy. It is pretty obvious where their priorities lie and they would continue the drastic spending cuts, all the while patting themselves on the back for reducing the debt. So long to the middle class and the poor. Really afraid that all the worst case scenarios would happen.
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