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	<title>Comments on: The 2012 Election Will be a Contest Between Community and Greedy Self Interest</title>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Aug 2012 21:32:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As a teenager, I read Ayn Rand and thought she was the cat&#039;s meow. Of course. I was 15. What fifteen year old doesn&#039;t love being told that living to serve your own selfishness is the highest virtue?

Then, I grew up.

Ayn Rand never grew up, but she did grow old. When she was old, she lived on Social Security and other benefits of the &quot;welfare state.&quot; Ironic, that.

There is an aspect of Rand&#039;s Virtue of Selfishness philosophy that is not being talked about, and that is the essential immaturity of her vision. Hers was a child&#039;s view of the world and how the world works. She never grew up. She just grew old.

One can take her premise of selfishness-as-virtue and re-cast it from an adult perspective. Ergo, &quot;a nation of strong community and strong working class and middle class with less poverty will provide everyone with a better quality of life, and I am part of &quot;everyone&quot; so as a selfish person, I support that nation-as-community-model.&quot; That&#039;s where Rand&#039;s philosophical musings might have taken her, had she ever grown up.

The reason Paul Ryan and others don&#039;t support America as a community-nation is because their vision is fundamentally immature.

Paul Ryan never grew up. Nor did Mitt Romney. They may be wearing big-boy pants, but their vision and world outlook is still that of self-absorbed teens.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a teenager, I read Ayn Rand and thought she was the cat&#8217;s meow. Of course. I was 15. What fifteen year old doesn&#8217;t love being told that living to serve your own selfishness is the highest virtue?</p>
<p>Then, I grew up.</p>
<p>Ayn Rand never grew up, but she did grow old. When she was old, she lived on Social Security and other benefits of the &#8220;welfare state.&#8221; Ironic, that.</p>
<p>There is an aspect of Rand&#8217;s Virtue of Selfishness philosophy that is not being talked about, and that is the essential immaturity of her vision. Hers was a child&#8217;s view of the world and how the world works. She never grew up. She just grew old.</p>
<p>One can take her premise of selfishness-as-virtue and re-cast it from an adult perspective. Ergo, &#8220;a nation of strong community and strong working class and middle class with less poverty will provide everyone with a better quality of life, and I am part of &#8220;everyone&#8221; so as a selfish person, I support that nation-as-community-model.&#8221; That&#8217;s where Rand&#8217;s philosophical musings might have taken her, had she ever grown up.</p>
<p>The reason Paul Ryan and others don&#8217;t support America as a community-nation is because their vision is fundamentally immature.</p>
<p>Paul Ryan never grew up. Nor did Mitt Romney. They may be wearing big-boy pants, but their vision and world outlook is still that of self-absorbed teens.</p>
<p>My two cents.</p><div class="commentRating" style="padding: 8px 10px 0 10px; float: right;">What do you think? <img width=20 height=20 style="padding: 0px; border: none; cursor: pointer;" id="up-208495" src="http://ww2.politicususa.com/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/images/1_20_up.png" alt="Thumb up" onclick="javascript:ckratingKarma('208495', 'add', 'www.politicususa.com/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/', '1_20_'); ckRatingCkMarkUp('208495');" title="My thoughts exactly." /> <span id="karma-208495-up" style="font-size:13px; font-weight: 700; color:#009933;;">0</span>&nbsp;<img width=20 height=20 style="padding: 0px; border: none; cursor: pointer;" id="down-208495" src="http://ww2.politicususa.com/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/images/1_20_down.png" alt="Thumb down" onclick="javascript:ckratingKarma('208495', 'subtract', 'www.politicususa.com/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/', '1_20_'); ckRatingCkMarkDown('208495');" title="You got to be kidding." /> <span id="karma-208495-down" style="font-size:13px; font-weight: 700; color:#990033;">0</span></div>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Barbara Polhamius</title>
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		<dc:creator>Barbara Polhamius</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Aug 2012 20:26:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Very very good stuff here! Thanks for this great article.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very very good stuff here! Thanks for this great article.</p><div class="commentRating" style="padding: 8px 10px 0 10px; float: right;">What do you think? <img width=20 height=20 style="padding: 0px; border: none; cursor: pointer;" id="up-208472" src="http://ww2.politicususa.com/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/images/1_20_up.png" alt="Thumb up" onclick="javascript:ckratingKarma('208472', 'add', 'www.politicususa.com/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/', '1_20_'); ckRatingCkMarkUp('208472');" title="My thoughts exactly." /> <span id="karma-208472-up" style="font-size:13px; font-weight: 700; color:#009933;;">0</span>&nbsp;<img width=20 height=20 style="padding: 0px; border: none; cursor: pointer;" id="down-208472" src="http://ww2.politicususa.com/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/images/1_20_down.png" alt="Thumb down" onclick="javascript:ckratingKarma('208472', 'subtract', 'www.politicususa.com/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/', '1_20_'); ckRatingCkMarkDown('208472');" title="You got to be kidding." /> <span id="karma-208472-down" style="font-size:13px; font-weight: 700; color:#990033;">0</span></div>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: robyn ryan</title>
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		<dc:creator>robyn ryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Aug 2012 16:39:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Who is John Galt&#039;s: 
-doctor?
-plumber?
-dentist?
-trash collector?
-carpenter?
-teacher?
-barber?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Who is John Galt&#8217;s:<br />
-doctor?<br />
-plumber?<br />
-dentist?<br />
-trash collector?<br />
-carpenter?<br />
-teacher?<br />
-barber?</p><div class="commentRating" style="padding: 8px 10px 0 10px; float: right;">What do you think? <img width=20 height=20 style="padding: 0px; border: none; cursor: pointer;" id="up-208388" src="http://ww2.politicususa.com/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/images/1_20_up.png" alt="Thumb up" onclick="javascript:ckratingKarma('208388', 'add', 'www.politicususa.com/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/', '1_20_'); ckRatingCkMarkUp('208388');" title="My thoughts exactly." /> <span id="karma-208388-up" style="font-size:13px; font-weight: 700; color:#009933;;">0</span>&nbsp;<img width=20 height=20 style="padding: 0px; border: none; cursor: pointer;" id="down-208388" src="http://ww2.politicususa.com/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/images/1_20_down.png" alt="Thumb down" onclick="javascript:ckratingKarma('208388', 'subtract', 'www.politicususa.com/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/', '1_20_'); ckRatingCkMarkDown('208388');" title="You got to be kidding." /> <span id="karma-208388-down" style="font-size:13px; font-weight: 700; color:#990033;">0</span></div>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Reynardine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Reynardine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Aug 2012 15:11:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is one of the best-written pieces written on this subject to date, portraying the alternatives in harsh clarity. If we take a wrong fork in the road, we may not have another choice. This piece needs to be widely disseminated, and not just to the choir. Thank you.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is one of the best-written pieces written on this subject to date, portraying the alternatives in harsh clarity. If we take a wrong fork in the road, we may not have another choice. This piece needs to be widely disseminated, and not just to the choir. Thank you.</p><div class="commentRating" style="padding: 8px 10px 0 10px; float: right;">What do you think? <img width=20 height=20 style="padding: 0px; border: none; cursor: pointer;" id="up-208345" src="http://ww2.politicususa.com/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/images/1_20_up.png" alt="Thumb up" onclick="javascript:ckratingKarma('208345', 'add', 'www.politicususa.com/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/', '1_20_'); ckRatingCkMarkUp('208345');" title="My thoughts exactly." /> <span id="karma-208345-up" style="font-size:13px; font-weight: 700; color:#009933;;">0</span>&nbsp;<img width=20 height=20 style="padding: 0px; border: none; cursor: pointer;" id="down-208345" src="http://ww2.politicususa.com/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/images/1_20_down.png" alt="Thumb down" onclick="javascript:ckratingKarma('208345', 'subtract', 'www.politicususa.com/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/', '1_20_'); ckRatingCkMarkDown('208345');" title="You got to be kidding." /> <span id="karma-208345-down" style="font-size:13px; font-weight: 700; color:#990033;">0</span></div>]]></content:encoded>
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