I wrote yesterday about the hypocrisy of the Christian Right claiming to defend religious freedom when what they are defending is the freedom to ignore our freedom. They are convinced that because we have the courage to say no to their oppression of women and religious minorities and atheists that we are persecuting them.
As CBN reports, ”If you get the feeling that religious liberty is under attack in America, you’re not alone.” We are told that “With concern growing, leaders from across the country gathered in Washington this week for the National Religious Freedom Conference,” a day-long conference, sponsored by the Ethics and Public Policy Center. FOX News puts it this way: that “Faith leaders vow to fight threats to religious liberties in public sphere” but what this conference actually did was give bigots of every stripe a chance to be heard.
CBN goes on to report that “One Christian leader describes what many see as the attack on the right of conscience and religious liberty in America as ‘the raping of the soul.’”
For you women out there, the words of ” Richard Land, president of the Ethics & Religious Liberty Commission of the Southern Baptist Convention, might be of more than passing interest: “This debate is not just about contraceptives, but about coercion. It’s not about Catholics it’s about conscience; it’s about principle, not pelvic politics.”
Pelvic politics….
As I said yesterday, it is a wonder they can keep a straight face while they whine about us standing up to their authoritarian and un-Constitutional tactics. What is actually going on is a raping of the Constitution.
“Some say it’s the culmination of a decades-long process designed to eliminate religious people who don’t subscribe to a liberal world view.”
“You see the pattern: marginalizing religious groups,” Kyle Duncan of The Becket Fund noted.
Says the Catholic News Agency: “These attacks include attempts to require individuals to perform health care procedures that violate their beliefs, censure of policy arguments that incorporate religious beliefs, and efforts to weaken religious groups’ ability to choose their own leaders.”
And that’s the thing, you see: the problem is not the “liberal worldview” but as Gerd Lüdemann argues, “It was because of a rigid intolerance rooted in theological assumptions that the various writings of the New Testament willy-nilly produced many of the dogmatic and ideological problems that plague contemporary Christian churches.” He says that while churches “claim to make an important contribution to democracy” the trouble question arises “of whether the intolerance of Bible and creed can be harmonized with life in the necessarily pluralistic modern state.”[1]
Watch the Video on CBN:
Of course these people refuse to see what Lüdemann sees: it is not their embrace of intolerance that is at fault but the precepts of the modern liberal democracy as laid down in the U.S. Constitution. They are, to use a metaphor, unleashed dogs in what could be a very nice living room, but they refuse to be anything other than dogs and they use “holy writ” as an excuse for their execrable behavior, even university professors.
“I think it’s happening because all the different religious communities realize that a threat to one is a threat to all,” Princeton University professor Robert George said.
George says Christians and other believers are facing animosity from secularists for standing for their religious beliefs in the public square.
He calls it an “abuse” to apply anti-discrimination laws to biblical views on sexual morality and traditional marriage.
“That’s an odd thing since the very people who now condemn so many evangelical Christians and faithful Catholics for speaking publicly about their faith and acting publicly on their faith in the public square, would be the first to praise Dr. Martin Luther King and other civil rights leaders who were people of faith, who acting on their religiously inspired convictions went out into the public square and advocated for justice and the common good,” George said.
So what’s the solution? Faith leaders say “fight back.”
Their goal is to organize religious freedom caucuses in all 50 state legislatures and help state and federal lawmakers draft legislation that protects the right of conscience. Reports the jubilant Catholic News Agency:
“The caucuses will be ‘a focal point for those who are working on religious freedom in the states to direct and generate their efforts,’ said Brian Walsh, executive director of the American Religious Freedom Program at the Ethics and Public Policy Center.”
“Rights of conscience” is a euphemism for “right to persecute” as is clear from the legislation so far seen so take this to mean that religious persecution is coming to your state, if it is not already there. It has certainly already made an appearance in the hallowed halls of Congress.
The Republican-controlled U.S. House of Representatives attacked the Department of Health and Human Services new guidelines that require insurance companies to cover contraceptive services free of charge. Committee Chairman Rep. Joe Pitts (R-PA) claimed the new rules do not protect religious groups who object to contraception. He claimed the government is taking, “coercive actions to force people to abandon their religious principles.” As part of the Republican War on Women, Rep. Jeff Fortenberry (R-NE) introduced a bill, the Respect for Rights of Conscience Act of 2011, to allow providers to throw women under the bus on religious grounds.
Somehow, I don’t think that’s the spirit of American liberty. The Right to persecute is certainly not one embraced by Thomas Jefferson or James Madison, who men who worked closely together in the cause for genuine religious liberty.
But they’re quite serious about this as you can see; the movement to pass conscience laws is widespread and pernicious and like any ill-thought out piece of legislation these will have consequences unforeseen by their drafters. Take, for example, a new piece of legislation in North Dakota.
Measure 3, the “North Dakota Religious Freedom Amendment” – actually an anti-women’s reproductive rights amendment – would alter the North Dakota Constitution by adding a new section to Article I which states: “Government may not burden a person’s or religious organization’s religious liberty. The right to act or refuse to act in a manner motivated by a sincerely held religious belief may not be burdened unless the government proves it has a compelling governmental interest in infringing the specific act or refusal to act and has used the least restrictive means to further that interest. A burden includes indirect burdens such as withholding benefits, assessing penalties, or an exclusion from programs or access to facilities.”
Measure 3 will appear on the June 12, 2012 ballot in North Dakota. It is supported by the North Dakota Family Alliance. Not only will Measure 3 impinge on women’s reproductive rights, but it could be used as an excuse to say, abuse your wife or children, as pointed out by North Dakotans Against Measure Three, and NorthDecoder.com calls it a “wife beater’s dream come true.” In other words, you can do pretty much any damn thing you please and leave it to the government to prove you didn’t do it because of a “sincerely held religious belief.”
The obvious problem for Americans is that if this level of intolerance and bigotry can be legislated into law, then we no longer have the liberal democracy established by the Constitution but a theocracy imposed 200 years after the fact by religious extremists of all denominations.
Lüdemann writes,
“But how soon the Good News developed into Threatening News – that is, if the offer of salvation was turned down! Church leaders soon equated right believe with obedience. They projected onto the screen of heaven a social fabric based on subordination and increasingly shaped by a culture of suppression. The canonical status of the New Testament writings – henceforth an eternal norm for the church – has radically blurred the vision of its followers, inhibiting their ability to recognize that all these texts emerged from controversies whose marks they still show.”
The result as seen by Lüdemann, I would argue, is in evidence at the National Religious Freedom Conference:
Indeed, Christian intolerance seems to be an inherent, even necessary ingredient of the Christian religion…clearly it would be misleading to think that freedom in general and freedom of religion specifically are the consequences of the Christian message. Indeed, the religious tradition that claims as its founder the Prince of Peace has through the centuries shown an inability to endure other religious viewpoints. And this is as true today as ever, despite the protestations of church leaders who would like to have it appear otherwise in order to retain their welcome within the institutions of power that comprise the secular state.
“In reality,” Lüdemann concludes, “neither Christian theology nor the church can champion freedom of religion without betraying a considerable degrees of hypocrisy. For tolerance requires an unconditional acknowledgement of the freedom and dignity of human beings without recourse to God. Yet the jealous Yahweh of the Bible who demands unconditional obedience can never approve of such liberal affirmation.”
Lüdemann points out that the church took advantage of Rome’s “laissez-faire politics in religious matters” and that acquiescence is no antidote.[2] I would argue here that they have done the same in America and as this conference shows, they are far from finished taking advantage of our liberal tolerance to push their intolerant agenda.




SinghX
May. 27th, 2012 at 9:31 am
…”Rights of conscience” is a euphemism for “right to persecute”.
How can it be a “right of consciousness” if they can’t answer or define, What IS Christ consciousness? If they did, they wouldn’t be pursuing the direction they’ve taken…consciousness is an ever-flowing stream of intelligence that possesses an awareness. What are they aware of? That they aren’t superior in the bigger scheme of reality and therefore must assert their “right” to compete for that superior slot with a democratic civilization?
I have no idea nor do they what they are talking about, yet, they are basing their obscure personal “rights” on it, but can’t tell you what it is..all they know is, they want to be No.1.
They accuse non-believer of somehow “raping their soul” which again, they don’t define or give evidence of those ‘criminal act’(women are a criminal act??) Instead, there is ample evidence that their ideology has murdered more “souls” than “saved” or enlightened, made aware of an intelligence that allows a consciousness, one that they claim to “own” as some kind of “legal” right.
What I do understand is that they have never uttered the words, “Let’s be friends, I like you and we should like one another, share and live peacefully”…at least Hitler did that when he first started out…I must be a “lost soul” as I don’t get any of it (please don’t explain, they aren’t worth going the conscious effort).
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Olivia
May. 27th, 2012 at 9:44 am
I’m willing to bet that there wasn’t one Pagan, Witch, or Mage at that confrence. They only mean freedom of religion if you believe what they believe in.
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Victoria Coles
May. 27th, 2012 at 10:30 am
These people are the scariest that I have ever seen. They remind me of the Klu Klux Klan! Advocate for Justice but do not force me to follow your narrow minded racist and bigoted views of life!
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Rudy West
May. 27th, 2012 at 1:30 pm
Indeed! And if you’ll dig a little, you’ll see that the entire first page of the official KKK Creed (i.e. their founding document) praises their Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, etc. – THE KKK IS A CHRISTIAN ORGANIZATION – and, sadly, one that accurate represents Christianity in this nation, in my humble opinion. CHRISTIANITY IS EVIL. Everything it fears is just an outward projection of itself.
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ANAND YOGENDRA
May. 27th, 2012 at 3:34 pm
Your comment is exactly my feelings here, Victoria…….exactly !!!! Thanks for saying it so cogently and succinctly….
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Johnee
May. 27th, 2012 at 10:48 am
I am so tired of hearing this clap trap of “religious liberty” from these fools. Exactly what rights are being violated? As usual, it’s all whining without substance. Hraf, let me tell you that if their liberties were REALLY being infringed upon, I would be the first in their corner. However as we all know, this is not the case.
I mean c’mon, the issue of insurance companies providing contraceptive coverage is what’s galvanizing all these intolerant idiots? This, of course, is typical. Find any excuse or mythical cause to shout oppression and these religious bigots are all over it. The issue, as you say, is really about oppressing the rest of us.
I would add to Ludemann’s quote that all three Abrahamic religions ( Judisam, Christianity, and Islam ) can never truly champion religious freedom and tolerance “without betraying a considerable degree of hypocrisy”. They are all according to their followers, “the true faith” or “the chosen people”. The rest of us are heathens that, unless we convert to their faith, are not worthy of the same dignity and consideration that they accord themselves.
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Shiva (Moderator)
May. 27th, 2012 at 11:03 am
There is so much that could be said here, but it could be summed up in 2 words. Sharia Law.
This is the worms way of burrowing into our lives without us being aware of it. I would ask why are these same people not fighting for the rights we no longer have such as the right to privacy but it would be a waste of time. I am obviously not a christian, and on a daily basis I dont care who is. But every day I find myself thinking more and more that religions are oppression. Stinking filthy oppression. Nothing more nothing less. Yes yes someone has promised you a place in heaven. Thats BS folks. Writing laws that allow wife beating? This is taking us back to abrahams day when women were property. It was true then, its true now only more so in some places.
Broadly speaking, women are not too smart. Yes I know, Im a bigot. But the thrust of my point is simply this. Women hold the power over the entire world and they refuse to use it. With all these laws being written, there should not be one act of sex in any place like Arizona, Nevada and other states southern hick states. What in the feck are women thinking? This will go away?
There is only one way to stop this religious BS and its through women.
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Linda1961
May. 27th, 2012 at 11:50 am
These “christians” are whining because they think that not being able to force their religious views on the rest of us constitutes the rest of us persecuting them for their religious views.
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Johnee
May. 27th, 2012 at 12:09 pm
Ha! Linda, you have summed up in one sentence what this whole thing is really about.
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Lia Meadows
May. 27th, 2012 at 12:17 pm
Last time I checked religious freedom meant everyone is free to believe what they want to believe….not this crap where if you believe anything is different you are imposing on their religious freedom…that makes no sense…believe what you want to believe and leave everyone else to themselves…jeez how hard is that? Apparently very. I still say its all about brainwashing. I was taken to church from a very young age and told do this or you will burn in hell for eternity. When I became a teenager and my mother found out I was reading about another religion she flipped a script and told me it was devil worship and basically told me if I pursued that course of action she would kick me out of the house. She was taught it from a very young age as well…they were all brainwashed in my family but somehow I managed to escape it. My mother also told me she would kick me out if I dated a black guy because “if thegood lord intended black and white people to be together he would have made them the same color” what kind if logic is that? Its not logic at all…”Christians” tend to be very illogical hence why all this is going on. I’ll stick with being a “pagan heathen who is going to hell for devil worship” thank you…because at least I’m not stepping on the backs of my fellow human beings this way. I just want everyone to have happiness in life and not have to worry about all thus crap. Is that too much to ask? Apparently it is. Thanks a lot “Christians”.
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Reynardine
May. 28th, 2012 at 11:21 am
If God had intended everyone to be white, She wouldn’t have put ultraviolet in the sunlight.
(By the way, She is a Cat.)
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Bass Reeves
May. 27th, 2012 at 1:49 pm
These are the people we should be at war with. These religious parasites need to go.
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Jim Faubel
May. 27th, 2012 at 2:37 pm
“Blessed are they which are persecuted for righteousness sake; : for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.”
“Rejoice and be exceedingly glad: for great is your reward in heaven: for so persecuted they the prophets which were before you.” Matthew 5:101 & 12
If these “religious leaders” can’t even follow directions from their so-called “commander-in-chief” it’s no wonder they can’t understand the Constitution of the United States. Let them whine and complain. It just reveals them for the hypocrites they are.
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oudiva
May. 27th, 2012 at 3:53 pm
Jim, you hit the nail on the head. Instead of whining about “persecution,” these authoritarians need to go home and read their Bibles. Even in the Old Testament you find laws requiring the “chosen” people to be hospitable to foreigners, to take care of the poor, to honor their parents, and, above all, to worship only God. And yet now you have religious authoritarians worshiping an ideology, bashing women (some of whom are their mothers), ignoring the poor, and being very INhospitable to immigrants. Among other things. Jesus takes the OT to the next level, of course. The sin he hated most was not being gay or having abortions (although you wouldn’t know that to listen to the religious patriarchy). What bent him out of shape was hypocrisy, which makes me think some of these religious right-wingers who are so sure of their own righteousness may get a big surprise come Judgment Day.
I’m a Christian, BTW, and these people DO NOT SPEAK FOR ME.
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Johnee
May. 27th, 2012 at 4:30 pm
Good for you oudiva! Reading my comments from above, I am sorry I did not clarify my remarks. I was specifically speaking of the religious fundies and theocrats from each particular faith. I may disagree with you on religious matters but you remind me that there are many good and fair minded people out there from all walks of life.
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A Walkaway
May. 28th, 2012 at 11:05 am
An interesting point is that the only recorded instance of Him getting angry was in the temple. What did he call it? A den of thieves. According to what I remember reading, there was an “arrangement” between the moneychangers and the hierarchy, as well as one between the people selling animals for sacrifice and the hierarchy. If you didn’t do business with them, for instance, any animal you brought for sacrifice would be rejected – SOME blemish would be found. It was a rip-off of the ordinary people by the elites.
Hypocrisy, but equally important was how people treated each other and especially how the poor were treated.
The biggest thread throughout both testaments is the relationship between the rich and the poor – and denunciation of the rich for their treatment of the poor.
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John Savage
May. 27th, 2012 at 4:41 pm
I have the Constitutional right of freedom of religion. I chose to use that right to be free of stupid religions. So, I now use my Constitutional right of free speech to say,”F@ck ALL your stupid superstitious fairy-tale religions!!!” I would also like to request that they get, and keep, THEIR (as in not everybody’s) stupid superstitious fairy-tale religions out of OUR (as in everbody’s) reality based (in theory, at least, lol) government!!!
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A Walkaway
May. 28th, 2012 at 11:07 am
Equally important, it also keeps hostility towards religion out of the government.
Government should be neutral. Period.
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john r
May. 27th, 2012 at 5:51 pm
there is a level of beleif beyond superstition.. that is known as super-duperstition… while superstitious people believe…super-uperstitious folks feel that
also they need to force thier beliefs on others.. usualy s some some kind of profit if the truth was known..
they seem to think the whole world’ problems are due to some cosmic “Jesus defeciency”
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Christopher
May. 27th, 2012 at 9:33 pm
Just like the Puritans who came to Massachusetts seeking religious freedom for me, but not for thee. The irony of that comparison though is the Puritans evolved into Congregationalists, many of whom are now members of the United Church of Christ, a denomination that embraces religious pluralism and socially progressive stances.
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Darlene
May. 27th, 2012 at 11:26 pm
WHAT A BUNCH OF HATERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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gsb
May. 28th, 2012 at 9:41 am
While reading, listening and watching the self proclaimed “Chirstians” of the Republican party along with the Tea Party people, I have come to the conclision this nation is populated with “Chriatian Siciopaths.”(which is really an oxmoron)people who do not see the need to feed the hungry,cloth those who need it, give medical help,educate,(oh God, we can not educate, they must be home schooled. Children must be only given what we say the bible teaches) Go get a job. forgetting that the jobs are low pay, hardly enough to keep anyone above water, also forgetting what Jesus taught,and GAVE as an example. All the while yelling very loudly, we are the Christians, the rest of you are destined for hell. Vote as we say,do as we say,act as we say. Or as a loud self promoted Women from Wassila would say”I’ll punch you in the throat”
I for one, do not wish to be included within this group of people. Quit church a while ago because of it.
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A Walkaway
May. 28th, 2012 at 11:12 am
The Jesus they preach is the inverse of the Jesus the rest of us recognize.
Inverse of Jesus… anti-Jesus…
I don’t believe in the “antiChrist” as an entity like they do, and I don’t buy the “last days” crap they seem to worship. I do recognize that throughout history, there has been a principle at work… which pushes the inverse of what Jesus himself taught (along with the Prophets).
You’ll see that principle at work around the world, and it also goes against the teachings of the other world religions (which actually have much in common in spite of the differences).
That’s why they talk ABOUT Jesus, but never study what He said.
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Shiva (Moderator)
May. 28th, 2012 at 11:25 am
http://www.biblicalarchaeology.org/daily/biblical-topics/bible-interpretation/does-the-gospel-of-mark-reveal-jesus%E2%80%99-anger-or-his-compassion/?mqsc=E3170255
What he said is seldom what he said
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A Walkaway
May. 28th, 2012 at 7:07 pm
Very interesting link, and it beautifully illustrates some of the problems inherent in translating ancient texts.
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Shiva (Moderator)
May. 28th, 2012 at 7:29 pm
Its a magazine I get. Biblical archeology. Mostly from the jewish side of life. But they study transcripts that are very old. For instance they found that the songs of David are not written by David, but TO David
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A Walkaway
May. 28th, 2012 at 8:33 pm
I’m familiar with the journal, but don’t generally read it. It’s not really in my fields of interest, although I have done some reading on the subject.
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gsb
May. 28th, 2012 at 9:43 am
conclusion spelled wrong
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repntenn
May. 28th, 2012 at 10:39 am
I would like the religious right to point out one instance of a religious groups being denied the opportunity to gather in a church to worship. There isn’t one that I know of. The problem is that the freedom the religious right is defending is their freedom to force their religious views on everyone else. Anyone who stands up and says “they shall not force their views on me” is accused of attacking religion.
Fortunately for the majority of citizens of this great country of us, our Founding Fathers saw the dangers of religious rule and did not enslave our country to any religion. Evangelicals have been trying to undo that since the Constitution was ratified. That is the true fight going on in this country.
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A Walkaway
May. 28th, 2012 at 11:16 am
Native Americans and our religions. But then, they’re at least as hostile towards our faiths as they are towards, for instance, atheists.
We didn’t get freedom of religion until 1979… it took a federal law to make that happen. Previous to that, you could be thrown in prison for attending ceremony in most areas. (In our traditional homeland, until 1979 we could be thrown in jail if we were found out… even kids.)
No fundamentalist Christian group has faced such a thing.
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Ard
May. 28th, 2012 at 9:26 pm
The difference being that Mr. King wasn’t trying to force his religion down everyone’s throats by in acting his religious beliefs into public law. Mr. King was using his religion to bolster his conviction in “all men are created equal” and thus should be treated equally. He fought to make the government practice what it preached, not to make everyone practice what his bible preached.
What the religious people of today are doing with their beliefs is trying to strip those of us who don’t share their beliefs of our rights as equal people, thus destroying what Mr. King was fighting for. In using him as an example they dirty the ideals that he stood and died for. They should be ashamed of themselves.
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majii
May. 28th, 2012 at 9:54 pm
What many of these people don’t seem to realize is that you can’t draw men to Christ if you’re constantly creating barriers to doing so. These folks aren’t carrying out Christ’s mission. They’re carrying out their own mission. All of these folks know that every religious institution in the country is exempt from the contraceptive mandate, but they will not stop bearing false witness. The responsibility for fulfilling the mandate was shifted to the insurance companies. It’s shameful when people who call themselves followers of Christ don’t think enough of him to tell the truth. I think this is a major reason why so many people are leaving organized religious establishments. There used to be a time when one could depend upon one’s pastor to tell the truth. In the case of some religious organizations, the focus has shifted from the things Christ emphasized to increasing their power and making money.
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matt
May. 29th, 2012 at 12:33 am
It’s a distinction w/o a difference. That’s like Tod giving Jack money to buy drugs for Sally. It doesn’t take a genius to realize that Tod is providing Sally with drugs.
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matt
May. 29th, 2012 at 12:31 am
This guy just doesn’t understand what freedom is. If you want to obtain and use contraception or abortificant drugs then you are free to. If I don’t want to provide you with those drugs then I should be free to. That’s the only way we can both be free. You don’t have a right to other people’s goods and services, that’s called slavery.
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A Walkaway
May. 29th, 2012 at 9:53 pm
That’s the greed in you talking. If you experienced what it’s like being poor and exploited by the rich, you’d be singing a different tune.
One of the things that people don’t catch on to is that we are all responsible for each other, and in most cases the problems of the poor (and poverty itself) is caused by the rich. If they weren’t so damned greedy, everyone would do a lot better.
I could use your argument in saying that we shouldn’t pay taxes because they support a military, and so far the history of this country has largely been one of using the military to force this country’s greed on others. It could be used against anything at all – even against paying tithes. Luckily, most people are intelligent enough that they realize that there are things that people cannot handle alone, and that it takes money to run a government. They also realize that not everyone has the same resources and that those with more should help those with less… and the best way to make sure this happens is through taxes. Liberals tried to make it fair with a progressive tax system, but the damned conservatives have just about inverted it now so that the poor and middle class are supporting the rich.
Oh, and don’t bother claiming that the churches can help people. Not only can they not take up the slack, but most won’t. Any money would go into the pockets of the leaders or be used to build bigger, fancier new buildings. In fact, while they claim to help people, there is plenty of evidence that they deliberately harm those that they should be helping, while blaming them for their misfortune.
I just hope you don’t claim to be a Christian, because your attitude is 180 degrees from what Jesus taught.
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gogole
May. 30th, 2012 at 11:04 am
What I find the most obvious about the bigotry and two sided talking is the “No Sharia Law1!!” screams, followed immediately by “keep our Christian marriage values as law!!!” without even a HINT of self realization regarding their own hypocrisy.
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Bigz.j
Jun. 2nd, 2012 at 6:22 am
I feel that if the government wants to use public spending for contraceptives for the ladies, then its sexist discrimination against us men. Its either all or nothing. Take all the condoms and spermicidal lubes and put them behind the counter and require prescriptions as well; or else this whole posturing is just that – Posturing, without any real defense, reason, or justification.
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A Walkaway
Jun. 2nd, 2012 at 2:00 pm
Ah, but men are in control, sad to say – that’s why things like that are available out front and the birth control for women IS behind the counter.
For a lot of men, sex is just a fun pastime, and the only “threat” is a woman getting pregnant and making them help support the child (plus the possibility of STDs). For women, it might also be fun, but they also face possibly having to carry and bear a child (especially if the fundies get their way), and that often destroys a woman’s potential future (especially in this society).
For a very poor woman, she often doesn’t have much choice, and cannot afford birth control (thus she doesn’t have a viable alternative if she wants sex or her husband/boyfriend/whatever DEMANDS sex). If she gets pregnant, the options can be tough… the difficulties the damned fundies have put up around abortion makes getting one difficult-to-impossible in many areas, and having a baby may destroy any chance to get out of poverty. They’ve been trying to make sex a thing for procreation only… which is evil as it is not (otherwise it wouldn’t feel so good).
We men need to back off and let them make the decisions, especially ones like that… and we need to support women fully and think about them as people rather than sex objects. The reality of life is, they bear the burdens of pregnancy while we really don’t.
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chistes
Jun. 2nd, 2012 at 1:27 pm
Nice article, I like it.
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IzzyDedjet
Jun. 2nd, 2012 at 8:12 pm
I spent 10 years defending the rights of others, to freedom of religion.
I guess we have freedom OF, but not freedom FROM religion.
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