17 Responses to Joseph Farah’s Pretense to Christianity

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   Reynardine

   Aug. 25th, 2012 at 8:26 am

   My sister, who lives among very enlightened and cultured people in Chicago, thinks my insomnia and ill dreams are the fruits of what she always characterized as an overdramatic temperament, and I hope she is never proven wrong.

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   MGarr

   Aug. 25th, 2012 at 8:37 am

   What is the only issue for which Mr. Romney has not flip-flopped? He stands firm on not releasing his tax returns. Why so firm on this issue?

   Mr. Romney is running for President of the United States.
   This is a position of Trust.
   Ronald Reagan said, “Trust but Verify.”
   Mr. Romney has said, “Trust me,” re his tax returns.
   It is not unreasonable for voters to want to “Verify.

   It is not just liberals who want to see Romney’s tax returns.
   It is 63% of American voters who do.

   The longer Mr. Romney delays, the more suspicious it appears.

   Obama released 8 years of tax returns
   GW Bush 10 years
   Clinton 12 years
   GHW Bush 14 years
   George Romney 12 years.

   What is the problem, Mr. Romney? Release your tax returns.

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     Reynardine

     Aug. 25th, 2012 at 9:35 am

     Pardon my asking, MGarr, but your screen name prompts it: are you Maltese?

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     A Walkaway

     Aug. 25th, 2012 at 12:30 pm

     The answer is the religion he follows… in Mormonism, Bishops and leaders aren’t questioned or disagreed with (same as with dominionist leaders). The people “under” him are supposed to take everything he says (and follow his orders) without question or hesitation.

     He’s just behaving according to type. (Think about what it will be like if he wins…)

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       Shiva (Moderator)

       Aug. 25th, 2012 at 12:36 pm

       Not sure if I threw this at you before but this is a very interesting article from a mormon of great disticntion

       http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2012/08/07/exclusive-brigham-young-s-great-great-granddaughter-on-mormonism-and-mitt-romney.html

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   frank

   Aug. 25th, 2012 at 9:52 am

   right on

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   Shiva (Moderator)

   Aug. 25th, 2012 at 10:36 am

   Religion is about the most useful tool that can be found. With religion you can tell people things about others and be happy in the knowledge that those people will never go back and check if you are lying about their own religion. The brilliant hypocrisy that is noted here is that these opposing questions completely misuse religion for their talking points and then accuse others of doing it.

   You can expect a tremendous amount of these types of attacks on president Obama between now and November. The religious fundamentalists are going to show us exactly who they are and what they support. And you can take it to the bank that what they support is not religion, but the very thing that mitt Romney supports and that is telling total falsehoods for power

   On a side note Hraf I have found a lengthy you might find mildly interesting as side reading

   http://www.biblicalarchaeology.org/daily/ancient-cultures/ancient-israel/jewish-worship-pagan-symbols/?mqsc=E3309695

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5. 

   Yogi29073

   Aug. 25th, 2012 at 10:47 am

   Hraf, ya know, it’s because of you that I have been introduced to the likes of WND, David Barton, Tony Perkins, Scott Lively and now Joseph Farah, as well as a bunch of other “Christens(?). I can also thank you for finding Throckmorton and a whole slew of conservative Christens who have their heads screwed on “somewhat” straight.
   I have found a biblical site I can punch in the verses you or others quote to see what is being discussed (http://www.biblegateway.com/).
   I’m Jewish, and the interview you had with Jesus was informative. I am still going to Hell according to WND but now I know why (sic)!!
   I have to admit that when I first started reading your columns, I was very suspicious of you. A Norsemen who is a Pagan and a Heathen who actually writes a blog?? My knowledge of Norsemen was about the very far right Jew hating Nazi groups mentioned by SPLC, so reading about your beliefs made me uneasy. Not so, now.
   WND, Fox, and now CNN, along with talking right wing heads have, as you have pointed out, overtaken the conversation. They are the ones who are heard and reported by the mainstream media. Moderates, on both sides of the isle are no longer being quoted.
   This column is well thought out and filled with accurate criticism, yet I don’t see it linked anywhere or mentioned in any of the mainstream media. How do you or this blog get your message out in a way that it actually makes it to the media?
   There is dangerous to this. The outrageous attacks that will come your way for your beliefs. What they did to Christ is mild compared to the verbal rape you and this blog will receive by the likes of WND and others.
   I have been verbally raped and attacked on WND for my opinions, but it is worth it.
   How do we get this blog into the mainstream, like Huffpost and Politico? Any suggestions??
   The information here needs to be “out there”! How do we do that??

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     A Walkaway

     Aug. 25th, 2012 at 12:27 pm

     As far as getting Hraf and the others out to the mainstream media, it won’t make much difference. They’ve been shown a long time ago to be both very conservative and very racist, and as time has gone by they’ve become more obvious (if not blatant) about it.

     I’ve mentioned this blog and Talk 2 Action several times to one of the editors of the local paper, but unless I write a letter to the editor, none of it comes out (and when I do write, something bad is done to us – like arson, poisoned pets, etc. – so I am careful and have cut back on the letters). Privately the editor has agreed with me regarding the dominionists and their actions, but the attitude doesn’t carry over – the newspapers (and mainstream media) are owned by the rich, after all.

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   Mark Brewster (@1dangerouself)

   Aug. 25th, 2012 at 3:55 pm

   Though I was raised christian, I no longer embrace what I term “Constantinianism” (religion started by the Roman emperor Constantine). However, I do have faith. One of the basic tenets of my faith, as understood by the christians, is “Do unto others as you would have them do unto you”. I simply it by saying, “Treat others the way you want to be treated.” I teach my kids this, and TRY (yes, try, I’m kinda intense) to live that.

   At my core, it’s simple: you leave me alone, don’t bother me, I’ll leave you alone and not bother you. If we find a base to form a friendship, great; if not, we can share the planet — just leave me be. If your beliefs differ from mine, when they come up in discussion, freely say, “I believe {A}…” I will reply, “Okay; I believe {B}.” Don’t TELL me, “{A} is the way it IS!”

   PUSH your beliefs on me, and we will have a problem.

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     SueinCA

     Aug. 25th, 2012 at 8:13 pm

     Mark

     I think like you do. I have so many questions that have not received suitable answers probably since I was about 12 in a religious family that I turned off completely by the time I was 16. By the time I was 18 church was out of the question. I treat people as I want to be treated and live a good life. I am not out to persecute Christians and I would appreciate them giving me the same courtesy. I could count probably 25 times I have been in a church since I was 18 and I am now 59. I don’t need organized religion to be a good person. My children are grown today and they turned out pretty well with a heathen mother and father :-)

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   majii

   Aug. 25th, 2012 at 4:57 pm

   IMO, Farah has no right, or standing, to assess whether someone else is or is not a Christian. I classify him as a faux Christian. In the NT Jesus states that no one can say whether another is a Christian because only God can know what is in another person’s heart. The NT also states that Jesus disapproved of public displays of Christianity. The NT tells Christians to respect their leaders because God placed them in their positions. And, although Jesus never had a problem with governments collecting taxes, many faux Christians to. Farah willingly and knowingly ignores these parts of the Bible in his quest to disparage the president. He needs to remove the mote from his own eye before he attempts to remove the beam from the president’s eye. Farah will create any new conspiracy theory that makes him money and keeps him relevant. I posted an article on FB about Romney’s lying welfare ad and added that as a Christian, I see nothing wrong with helping the poor. One of the conservative FB “friends” replied telling me that as a Christian I shouldn’t endorse having the government, through my own taxes, taking care of people who don’t work. This shows that many of today’s conservatives don’t care anything about the Bible and the teachings of Jesus. They forget that he said to take care of the poor, the widows, and the orphans. Most people needing food and housing assistance are kids and our elderly citizens! Farah is a fake Christian because he obviously thinks he can distort the Bible to push his whackadooele conspiracy theories. He is also a birther, so it doesn’t surprise me that he’s willing to be the conductor of the “Obama isn’t a Christian” train.

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     majii

     Aug. 25th, 2012 at 4:58 pm

     whackadoodle

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       majii

       Aug. 25th, 2012 at 5:01 pm

       Gosh, my proofreading ability is way off today. It must be these wicked headaches I’ve been battling for the last four days. Let me try it one more time!

       “And, although Jesus never had a problem with governments collecting taxes, many faux Christians do.”

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     A Walkaway

     Aug. 25th, 2012 at 6:30 pm

     I’m surprised that they came out and said “Don’t work” rather than “won’t work”. That’s what they usually use… along with some nasty comments about unwilling to work.

     The “Poor are lazy, unwilling to work, and sponging off of everyone else” meme is very old, and dates back to the 1400s – to the start of the Industrial Revolution. It’s one of the central tenets of Calvinism, and started because the rich were throwing people off of the land they’d been on for generations in order to run sheep – but nobody was willing to employ or help those made destitute by greed, including the church. (source of information available). It’s been a dominant theme since the earliest days of European presence here… even in the days of the Pilgrims. The truth has always been that most people WANT to earn their own way, and poverty (especially since the 1400s) has been the result of elite greed.

     The fact is, a significant portion of the poor are people who have lost their jobs due to downsizing/outsourcing/cutbacks, or have had their hours cut and benefits eliminated. People with disabilities also need to be considered, and their answer to us is a slap on the forehead (and when that does nothing, an asschew about not having enough faith). The elderly???

     A few years ago I got treated to a rant from a local business leader. He said that if a person stopped producing because of advanced age, they should just die, and if they spent their life savings just trying to survive, too bad – he didn’t want one penny of “his money” to go in taxes to support “drains on society”. He was growing in political stature at the local level, but died shortly after that rant. Funny, but he went on Social Security disability before the end, and protected his life savings.

     I now recognize the Rand philosophy in his rant, which is quite popular among the “Good Christians” (she’d have made a good Calvinist).

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8. 

   Uncajoe

   Aug. 25th, 2012 at 6:19 pm

   If they saw Him riding in, long hair flying in the wind,
   Would they love Him down in Shreveport today?
   If they heard He was a Jew and a Palestinian too,
   Would they love Him down in Nashville today?

   If they saw Him talk with ease to the junkies, whores, and thieves,
   Would they love Him out in Wichita today?
   Would the rich men think it funny if He said give up your money?
   Would they love Him up on Wall Street today?

   If He made the wine from water, gave it to their sons and daughters,
   What would the folks in Salt Lake City say?
   If He talked of brotherhood as he walked their neighborhoods,
   Would they love Him up in Boston today?

   If He said love those who use you, and forgive those who abuse you,
   If He turned the other cheek, what would you say?
   Would you laugh and call Him crazy, and just send Him on his way,
   If Jesus came to your town today?…

   ~ Bobby Braddock

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   RJ

   Aug. 26th, 2012 at 10:14 pm

   Whaddaya mean God fails to act?! Um, hel-LO! Earthquakes, hurricanes, tsunamis, dead blackbirds…how do you explain THEM, huh? Huh? Nice try, heathen!

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