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Mitt Romney Gives Obama All The Lies He Needs to Hang Him With
By: Jason EasleyOct. 3rd, 2012more from Jason Easley
Mitt Romney’s lie based strategy couldn’t measure up to Obama, and gave the president all the rope he needs to hang the Republican nominee.
The first question was about jobs, and Obama framed the question as about the future direction of the country. Romney starts off with an immediate lie that he is not going to cut taxes on the rich, and launched into his stump speech five point plan that provides no details. Eight minutes into the debate, Romney’s main pitch was “trust me” on the economy. (Romney looks nervous and like he might throw up.) Romney then broke off a lie and said that he doesn’t have a $5 trillion tax cut. Romney then tried to paint himself as the candidate of the middle class, with the claim that middle income families are being crushed under Obama. Romney promises to drill on government land for oil and natural gas, and touts drill, baby drill. Romney sprinkled a little fairy dust and claimed that he isn’t raising taxes on the middle class. Obama hits Romney by telling the truth that Romney has been pushing a $5 trillion tax cut. Obama blasts Romney for not delivering specifics on what deductions and loopholes he would close.
It took less than 16 minutes for Romney lose his cool and interrupt the moderator. Romney followed up by contradicting his own running mate’s claim that Romney is going to cut taxes 20% across the board for all income earners. Obama brought Romney back to reality by telling him that his tax plan doesn’t add up. Obama touted cutting taxes 18 times, and cutting taxes for the 98%.
Obama hit Romney for defining millionaires and billionaires is small business. Mitt Romney delivered some highly deceiving statistics about small businesses. According to Washington Monthly the Romney/Republican definition includes, “Many of those 750,000 small businesses aren’t small at all. Some, like Bechtel Corporation, are positively enormous. The Democratic and Republican figures come from the non-partisan Joint Committee on Taxation. But numerous think tanks and government organizations have examined the data and come to similar conclusions: First, that letting the Bush tax cuts on the top two brackets of “small-business” income would impact a tiny percentage of those businesses; and second, that many of the “small businesses” that would be impacted are actually giant companies — which explains why such a tiny fraction of them can account for half of small business income.”
The whole Romney strategy was based around voters trusting what he is saying. The problem for Mitt Romney is that a majority voters think he is lying. Romney is having a major problem in this debate. He keeps listing unpopular positions. It was shocking to hear Romney say that he would eliminate the subsidy to PBS. Romney told America that he has his own deficit cutting plan, but he won’t tell America what it is. Romney floated the bogus notion that a tax hike will kill jobs. Romney admitted that his plan is a pie in the sky idea that he is going to magically put people back to work in better paying jobs, and that will raise revenue for the government.
Obama turned the tables on Romney and switched the topic to corporate taxes and cutting the subsidies for Big Oil. Obama follows up by hammering Romney on Medicaid. Romney lied about where the oil subsidies go. $2.8 billion of the subsidies go the five biggest oil companies.
Later in the debate Romney repeated the BIG Obamacare lies that the federal government is going to take over healthcare, and that there is a board that is going to tell people what kind of treatments they can have. The Republican nightmares about Romney talking about Obamacare came true as Obama used Romneycare against him, and debunked Romney’s lies on Obamacare. Obama absolutely hammered Romney for not telling the American people the details of replacing Obamacare.
The president barreled through Romney on not giving specifics on anything. Obama called out Romney for having secret plans, and asked is Romney not telling the American people his details because his plans are too good? Romney tried to put on the Ronald Reagan suit, and claimed that he can’t give details because details won’t get things done. Romney proved Obama right by not listing any specifics, but by going into his one could do…schtick.
Romney needed a knockout here, but he didn’t say anything that would change anybody’s mind about him. Obama did show some rust in the first half of the debate, but really turned it on in the second half. Romney made many unforced errors like saying he would get rid of the subsidy for PBS. Romney also failed to deliver any specifics, and he couldn’t seem to decide whether he was a fact checker or an attack dog. Voters trust Obama more than Romney. Mitt Romney tried to put a dent in that tonight, but when a candidate who voters think is dishonest gets caught telling lies to the American people, it is a problem.
Romney’s whole strategy was put on display when he used his closing statement to lie, lie, and lie some more about President Obama. The factcheckers are going to have a ball checking Romney over the next day. Republicans are going to say that Romney won. Democrats are going to say that Obama won. Romney needed a clear consensus victory. It didn’t happen here.
As predicted, the mainstream media pundits are giving the debate to Romney. (These are the same people who thought McCain and Palin performed really well in their debates in 2008.)
Romney may have given his best performance tonight, but his best was not enough to beat Barack Obama. Romney is hoping that the American people are dumb enough to forget what he said yesterday and be fooled by his lies.
As Ed Schultz loses his mind on MSNBC and claims that Obama didn’t try to “win” the debate, the reality is that Romney gave the Obama people a treasure trove of lies to attack the Republican nominee with from now until the next debate. For Barack Obama this debate wasn’t about getting into some sort of ugly street fight. Voters like Obama exactly because he doesn’t do that. For Obama this debate was about who do you trust more?
Mitt Romney stood up and lied to the American people repeatedly. Obama is the trusted candidate with the vision. Romney is the challenger who had to be in chase mode because he is losing.
This debate wasn’t a game changer for Romney, despite what Republicans may think. His biggest problem is he is still Mitt Romney. While the media may give it to Romney, voters are still likely to stick with Obama.
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elvisgrace
Oct. 3rd, 2012 at 11:10 pm
I really, really hope this is how things play out, because that was just…depressing.
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sandy
Oct. 4th, 2012 at 3:52 pm
i hope things work out too. i was shocked and then i thought there’s something behind this….he’s given talks before without using a “teleprompter”. he’s a very articulate speaker.
obama 2012!
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Robert
Oct. 11th, 2012 at 11:31 am
It’s called rope a dope http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rope_a_dope. That last debate is the won the wins or loses the most votes. Liberals are always far more canny than conservatives, they just don’t use those skills to rip people off.
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Lola
Oct. 4th, 2012 at 12:28 am
@Jason Easley
What debate were YOU watching????
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Siobhan
Oct. 11th, 2012 at 12:26 am
what debate? ….why, the one in which Mitt Romney told one lie after the other without missing a beat, of course!…a supreme performance it was..If winning is LYING…I’d say Mitt won big time!
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Mark Smith
Oct. 4th, 2012 at 12:30 am
+1 elvis.
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JP
Oct. 4th, 2012 at 12:31 am
Yeah, I see your following, all (1) of the posts! I think you had better recast your Blog!
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Elizabeth Luna-Flores
Oct. 4th, 2012 at 12:31 am
Obama didn’t lash out and remained civil because this was a CIVIL DEBATE. Romney on the other hand did dish out more lies, but on top of that only proved himself to be a bully by cutting off Jim Lehrer. I hope that despite what the media is trying to instill into peoples minds that voters remain true to Obama and his plans.
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Electra Thomas
Oct. 4th, 2012 at 8:23 am
Ms Flores , I agree with you 100%.. Romney was a very aggresive lying bully…. Thank God for Obama
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ibwilliamwsi
Oct. 4th, 2012 at 1:06 pm
I agree that he was an aggressive lying bully. He looked like the kind of guy who would knock down a quiet kid and cut off his hair because he didn’t like it.
That being said, there are a hell of a lot of voters who like bullies. If the President is going to use Romney’s lies against him, he’d better start today, because some states are already voting, and many start next week. There’s no time to lose.
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JP
Oct. 4th, 2012 at 12:33 am
Hey Jason Easley: You are mind altering! Maybe legalize Pot movement would be a good fit for you! Hemp, Shemp and MOE!
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Julie McJunkin
Oct. 4th, 2012 at 12:35 am
Romney did tell one truth. He admitted that Mass purposely elected a republican senator to block Obamacare. And then was disgruntled that the dems pushed it through anyway.
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Siobhan
Oct. 11th, 2012 at 12:36 am
That’s right…I’m from Mass..Democrats did push the health care bill through…then they pushed Romney out the door and said “don’t let the door hit you in the arse.” Mass didn’t like Mitt..He hired all his crony’s construction companies to do the “Big Dig” which was a rush job that ended up collapsing and killing a woman..Under Romney our state was 48th in the area of jobs.
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Ted Plake
Oct. 4th, 2012 at 12:40 am
Mutt Romney Worth $250,000,000 Dollars! Talks 1-1/2HRS Not 1 Specific Idea Worth a Buck $1. Mutt Romney Paid Less Than 15% Income Tax on $21,000,000! Talks 1-1/2HRS Time Spent On Specifics 0.00001 Seconds! Joe Biden & The Big O got lots of ammo for next round! remember this is a 4 round fight! Mutt Romney screws up when He’s confident! He’s an Ego Manic!
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Zippadeedodah
Oct. 4th, 2012 at 12:44 am
Obama did fine. I don’t get why people think he should ‘fight’ more. How would that make him look better? Few people are undecided at this point. The President was dignified, cool, and substantive, as he always is. Romney, though maybe better than some might have expected, chattered nervously and dishonestly. Al Sharpton correctly stated that this will be exposed in the coming days. And that could have been the Obama campaign’s strategy anyway, right? Give him the rope and let him hang himself. As for MSNBC, Ed Schultz had his classic overreaction and unsophisticated take. Al Sharpton was correct about how this would unfold and Lawrence O’ Donnell correctly pointed out that this debate was for the American people to judge, and that that world is a different place than the MSNBC talking heads reside in. As I have long said, you never know what Obama is up to, so consider that there was a good chance that he knew exactly what he was doing and that it will work out for the best. Again, did you really want to see him up there yelling and arguing? Romney already has low approval ratings. Why would Obama need to try to reinforce that among voters? That’s what we have ads and YouTube videos for.
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Largo161
Oct. 4th, 2012 at 12:00 pm
I hear you,Zippadeedodah. People will never learn, it seems, to stop underestimating President Obama.
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Eddie Powell
Oct. 4th, 2012 at 2:27 pm
True this to u and Z. What gets me is the pundits pick a lair for a winner. I truly thought that the A game was the truth to be told. Truth beats a liar anytime in anyone life time….
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Andrew Rei
Oct. 4th, 2012 at 12:46 am
It was pathetic, Mittens’ continued lying…lie after lie and trying to go back to the middle. The author of the story above is correct: President Obama gave Mittens more than enough rope with which to hang himself. You see, there’s a feeling that comes over you when someone lies to you and you already know the truth…that feeling came over me constantly when listening to Mittens speak. Mittens has lied so much that he has little or no credibility…he could have said that the sky is blue and the leaves on trees are green and people STILL wouldn’t have believed him! That’s how pathological liars are treated, Mittens! LMAO ;)
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Jax
Oct. 4th, 2012 at 12:48 am
I seriously felt ill watching that. Seeing Mitt spew forth lies on top of lies. Telling people what they wanted to hear. The sad thing is, Romney is the “anti-Obama”. It doesnt matter what he says. People will vote for him because he isnt Barack Obama. He could tell the %47 to go f*ck themselves and people will not hear it. It’s truly a sad day to see where democracy has gone. This is truly a fight of good vs. evil. But the deck is stacked. Romney has an endless supply of money and support from hate and intolerance, (which there is no shortage of in America). Obama came to the debates, with facts and REAL ideas. Something Mitt knows nothing about. I am exceedingly afraid about this November. I fear that my chance of getting health insurance, my daughter enjoying PBS next year and attending college are going to be all but a memory this time next year.
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Yolonda
Oct. 4th, 2012 at 12:50 am
I’m sure Mitt and his camp is patting him on the back but you’re correct, until he start stating facts we DON’T TRUST HIM. Tell us where the mystery jobs are coming from? What plans do you have to move us forward? How will you really act if you were president and you have to fight tooth and nail to get things passed because no one wants to work with you. Most of all which companies butts do you have to kiss if get in office. That last part is what I really wonder about.
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Antoinette Makara Smith
Oct. 4th, 2012 at 12:52 am
Excellent article. Right to the heart of the matter. Romney fell right into the trap. His body language spoke volumes. Obama was excellent because he is real. Can’t wait for the dissection of this debate to come back to reality. MSNB was a real disappoinment in their coverage.
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Logan asbury
Oct. 4th, 2012 at 12:55 am
I thought this analysis was right on. I posted almost the same thing several other places already… and of course if it agrees with me it must be very astute! Which when you come down to it is how this debate is being judged. Most people are picking as a winner the guy they liked to begin with.
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buckeyewill
Oct. 4th, 2012 at 12:55 am
Hey folks, it was a law school professor vs. a scholl yard bully.
Good night.
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buckeyewill
Oct. 4th, 2012 at 12:55 am
Hey folks, it was a law school professor vs. a scholl yard bully.
Good night.
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buckeyewill
Oct. 4th, 2012 at 12:56 am
CORRECTION: school yard bully.
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dem9586792844592
Oct. 4th, 2012 at 12:56 am
I thought Romney was just a fast talking salesman running his usual shell game. Aside from eliminating PBS, no one can tell what his policies actually are.
On TV though, many Democrats longed for the Bill Clinton of the Convention speech, highly skilled at trashing his opponents with panache.
Was this debate really a big enough moment to be a turning point in the campaign?
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Jadedknight
Oct. 4th, 2012 at 12:58 am
Only a COMPLETE idiot could have reached the conclussions that you came to on this subject…LMAO.. To even think that Obama scored 1 point against Romney is preposterous. Romney spanked your boy so bad that he won’t be able to sit down for the next 4 years…lol
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Doris~
Oct. 4th, 2012 at 1:08 am
Keep chasing the winds the only thing RobMe did tonight was show his expertise at lying.
Obama!Biden! 2012..The truth is the light..
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Doris~
Oct. 4th, 2012 at 1:10 am
and robme will be at home on november 7,2012 sitting beside queen ann,ordering his car elevators for the many homes they own..
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majii
Oct. 4th, 2012 at 1:28 am
I agree that he spanked someone, Jadedknight, but I disagree on whom he spanked. It was you, and people like yourself, who got spanked because you bought into a lie-filled souffle served on a silver platter by a first class liar. Your elation tonight will deflate like a souffle when the fact-checkers finish debunking Romney’s lies. ROTFLMBO.
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lm945
Oct. 4th, 2012 at 2:26 pm
I’d hardly call Romney a first class liar. First class liars are the ones who don’t get caught.
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Montely
Oct. 4th, 2012 at 12:53 pm
Points are made on just that, points made. Romney made none! I took notes and have checked everything he said, and other than his statements regarding Romney care, nothing that he said has panned out. In the end, I have less of an idea about Romney as a president. Looked good, but still flat. Flatlining people are usually taken to the morgue and dead on arrival.
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ed
Oct. 4th, 2012 at 2:01 pm
Jadedknight, you got a big name Romney got a big pocket filled with money, both of you are just plain stupid, telling to the americans only lies after lies and bully even the moderator thats what you call good and winning? OMG America certainly dont need a guy like that in DC.
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Barbara
Oct. 4th, 2012 at 5:31 pm
You are right. I am a woman. Mitt Romney wants to decide what I do with my body, even though he never met and nor knows me. I won’t be able to sit down because Mitt says that I am a woman and I am not permitted to.
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MsAdventure
Oct. 4th, 2012 at 1:01 am
I thought Ed Schultz and Chris ODonnell were going to cry they were so disappointed..Overall I thought the President did ok, he could have been more aggressive, but I think when he realized that Romney was just going to lie, I think he let him do just that. I call tie.. on Romney lies and Presidential distraction…
Happy Anniversary Mr. President and Flotus..
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Jan Percell
Oct. 4th, 2012 at 1:05 am
My pres. Did fine…maybe a little tense…but over all hes gonna. Be okey by next debate.
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Roger Wolsey
Oct. 4th, 2012 at 1:15 am
It may well be that Obama was employing the “rope a dope” technique that Ali used to defeat Fraizer in the famous “Rumble in the Jungle” boxing match.
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Roger Wolsey
Oct. 4th, 2012 at 1:21 am
correction: I meant Ali vs. George Foreman (not Fraizer)
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Gary Reber
Oct. 4th, 2012 at 1:16 am
The “zinger!” that I had hoped for never transpired! And yet this is really the CORE issue of our time.
If Romney wanted to seriously CHANGE the direction of the country as our next president then in the debates ALL he had to state is: “I want to create an OWNERSHIP CULTURE whereby EVERY American can become a new capitalist!” That will start the national discussion and debate on the BIG ISSUE facing us, that is CONCENTRATED CAPITAL OWNERSHIP and who should OWN America. It would have put Obama on the spot to address this critical issue. Or reverse role with Obama making the statement. Either way the national discussion in media and academia, AND politics would have zeroed in on what this potential is all about.
Neither Obama or Romney addressed the CONCENTRATED OWNERSHIP issue and WHO SHOULD OWN AMERICA and HOW! The focus on JOB CREATION will not result in REAL job growth until there is REAL and SUSTAINED national economic growth with EVERY American becoming a new capitalist in the FUTURE productive capital economic engine of growth and the income-producing assets of our business corporations that constantly seek to lower costs by shifting the making of products and services from labor to the non-human factor––productive capital, e.g. land and resources, structures, human-intelligent machines, superautomation, robotics, digital computerized operations, etc.
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Sidney18511
Oct. 5th, 2012 at 10:19 am
I believe that we all know where the republicans stand on the question the a corporate e owned society. That answer is yes. They want to privatize EVERYTHING so that our tax dollars will find the way into the wallets of the 1%.
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David M Myles
Oct. 4th, 2012 at 1:18 am
Okay had to jot this down for future thought
Maybe tonight was all about Mitt Romney running against an imaginary Obama, so he became the imaginary Romney
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Jim H.
Oct. 4th, 2012 at 1:18 am
If this was a poker game, the president slow-played Romney and allowed him to keep check-raising. People believe that Romney’s aggressive demeanor and raises mean he has the better hand and Romney may even believe it himself. Tonight was the flop, but we still have the turn and the river. By the end, the country will realize that President Obama has the nuts.
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Linda Bacon
Oct. 4th, 2012 at 2:39 am
love your hold ‘em analogy. Pres. Obama played him just right!
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JFancher
Oct. 4th, 2012 at 3:27 am
I guess Mormons don’t play cards for money. Mitt has a few tells, such as blinking when he is lying.
Very few voters who were supporting Obama will change their minds because of this debate.
For undecideds Mitt’s obvious new flip flops and outright lies have provided the material for several weeks of commercials. Does he actually believe some of what he says? Burning clean coal? There is no such thing.
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D. W. Skinner
Oct. 4th, 2012 at 1:20 am
anyone who thinks Romney won, ask the Teabaggers coz he just screwed them like the Navy fleet in a one whore flop house!
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David M Myles
Oct. 4th, 2012 at 1:22 am
and in regards to Ed Shultz, the president said it best, sometimes he says no even to his own party for the sake of a balanced approach. Like with Weiner Ed is far too likely to throw our people under a buss.
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edna macnear
Oct. 4th, 2012 at 1:26 am
thats the truth, their all saying the same thing on face book. obama just lit mitt run his mouth off,to show the country. that what mitt said to night just dont match up with what his been saying,to the people around the country.
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Doris~
Oct. 4th, 2012 at 1:57 pm
The 2012′ debate….Will the real Myth stand and I know he’s got a secret…still waiting on the taxes and there is no free pass for you Myth.
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The Platzner Post
Oct. 4th, 2012 at 1:27 am
Rope-a-Dope!!!
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Al Chidester
Oct. 4th, 2012 at 1:30 am
Romney is shifting flash and no substance. Obama was calm and patient and did not take the obviously available routes of attack. Romney repeated his points and denials. This is far more important than a street fight. If that is what anyone wanted they should have watched a WWF event instead.
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Robert Stillwell
Oct. 4th, 2012 at 1:35 am
Glad to know I am not the only one who thinks that President Obama was playing a very shrewd hand there by not calling Romney on his rehashed lies and distortions. Most of Romney’s claims have already been debunked by fact checkers and the American public, those awake and aware anyway, know it. Well played Mr. President
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Tom Key
Oct. 4th, 2012 at 1:37 am
Romney clearly came prepared to “surprise” Obama by flip-flopping from his recent campaign messages to take positions surprisingly close to the centrist positions of Obama. That tactic did make it appear that Obama struck against positions that Romney denied having. Of course, there is the lying that is now exposed.
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Debra Vermaas
Oct. 4th, 2012 at 1:41 am
Loved the article. Watching the debate, Romney gave me a very uneasy feeling, almost made me sick to my stomach with that bully-like smirk on his face, almost like he was going to hold Jim Leher and President Obama down and cut their hair off.
Not to mention all the lies he told. What will the teabaggers and his billionaire donors think of Mitt’s new tax plan to NOT cut taxes for them?
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Steph Walther
Oct. 4th, 2012 at 2:32 am
Thank you for reminding people that Romney committed a hate crime. Says a lot for his character already, but add lying, pandering and flip-flopping. He did keep me awake though. Very animated performance.
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sandy
Oct. 4th, 2012 at 1:41 am
i had a boyfriend who reminds me of mitt romney; the more i let that liar talk; the more he hung himself; just saying
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michele
Oct. 4th, 2012 at 1:51 am
I love president obama and I know he is honest man and this debate didn’t change my mine. I think romney is so Dishonest and every time that man opens is mouth all those lies come out of it. Do you know that I would not believe him even if his tongue was notarize. President Obama keep up the good work you have my vote. God Bless you and your Family. Thank you again from one of the 47% =)
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Conservative Heart
Oct. 4th, 2012 at 1:53 am
ROMNEY WON!! ROMNEY WON!! ROMNEY WON!!
HE STOMPED A MUD HOLE IN OBAMA’S ASS!!
THREE COUNT! KNOCK OUT!! THIS FIGHT IS OVER!!
NA-NA-NA-NA, NA-NA-NA-NA…HEY, HEY, HEY…
GOOD BYE!!
But who is this Mitt Romney? He sounded almost moderate…
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Royella Jaynes
Oct. 4th, 2012 at 2:26 am
just keep drinking your kool-aid…..
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julia patterson-massey
Oct. 4th, 2012 at 4:37 am
LMAO
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julia patterson-massey
Oct. 4th, 2012 at 4:39 am
okay then…that was very funny and made me roll…
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julia patterson-massey
Oct. 4th, 2012 at 4:41 am
keep drinking your kool-aid was a funny, cute and very deserving response.
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nabsentia23
Oct. 4th, 2012 at 7:07 am
Your last question about whether or not this new Romney is a moderate says all I need to know about the conservative response to this debate.
Romney finally took credit for Romneycare last night after spending most of his time on the campaign trail trying to make suspicious rightwingers forget it. Ha!
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T Day
Oct. 5th, 2012 at 7:51 pm
“Conservative heart?” Isn’t that a contradiction in terms? The only world Romney won in is one that is as disconnected from reality as the Tea Bag movement. That would be the same world that considers begging the federal government for $15B to bail out the Salt Lake Winter Olympics, for conning the FDIC into a $20M handout to bail out Bain Capital, and heading a leverage-and-destroy gang of white collar criminals “business experience.” If the country wants to continue leveraging itself into 3rd world status, Romney has the skills necessary to finish Reagan and Bushs’ job.
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carla c
Oct. 4th, 2012 at 2:03 am
Al sharpton was the only one made sense on msnbc. set romney right up on his lies it will make an awesome commercial the good rev said we gat it on tape. america wake up mitt is a political liar! dont be fooled. calm down ed!
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Anne
Oct. 4th, 2012 at 11:53 pm
I feel exactly the same way. They were going on and on about Romney like he had won some kind of award, when his lying and blustering robbed him of any kind of credibility. It says a lot about the dumbing down of some Americans when they can conclude that a sorry performance like Romney’s is “masterful” because he was hyped-up, aggressive, and immersed in falsehoods. I had to turn the TV off when Chris Matthews and Ed Schultz were going on and on about what the president should have done. Actually, he did rebut many of Romney’s lies, but Romney just doubled down on those lies.
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Diane
Oct. 4th, 2012 at 2:03 am
The president should have pinned Romney on his infamous 47% remark, in response to Romney’s outlandish statements about his caring for the poor and middle class. Romney was caught, on tape, saying that contemptuous and dismissive comment, and I am disheartened that President Obama allowed him to get away with that, and more.
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Sally
Oct. 4th, 2012 at 2:06 am
Thank you for this. I was numb listening to Romney lie about the $716 billion so many times AFTER the President explained it to the poor man. But it was his ‘zinger’ evidently. I’m sure they were giddy on Fox, but the factcheckers will let the people know the trurh, adn the truth is Romney lies. Every time her opens that smirk-laden mouth. And those red eyes! Her looked like a zombie.
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Edith McNeill
Oct. 4th, 2012 at 2:40 am
A good ad:
Two college students watching debate:
First: hey isn’t that the guy who told his friends behind closed doors that 47% of us think we’re entitled to food, health care and shelter?”
Second: Yeah that’s him.
First: Wow, now we’re supposed to believe he cares about us. You just can’t trust a guy like that. He says one thing in private and another on the stage.
second: I know. That’s why Obama has my vote.
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Alan Daniel Petrash
Oct. 4th, 2012 at 2:41 am
It’s too bad Obama didn’t hang Romney on the spot with those lies. As a result, Obama looked weak and non-presidential. By not countering Romney’s lies in situ, Obama gave Romney an opportunity to repeat those lies in his closing statements, giving Romney a vestige of believability and costing Obama his.
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Beaglemom
Oct. 4th, 2012 at 8:12 am
Had President Obama hanged “Mitt Romney on the spot with those lies” the pundits and the GOP would all be crowing today about how mean the president is and how disrespectful he is to a competitor. I have so much confidence in President Obama that I think he handled himself perfectly.
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Railroadmike
Oct. 4th, 2012 at 3:29 am
Did anyone catch the statement Romney made concerning his sons. It was a quote for Joseph Gobbells the propaganda minister of Nazi Germany.
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anonymouslyincredulous
Oct. 4th, 2012 at 3:54 am
What audacity Romney has–to lie about EVERYTHING. I can’t believe people fell for it. One commentor said one would need to be in a coma to be undecided at this point! I agree. How can Pres. Obama have a serious debate with such a liar and bully? Vote for Obama. He tells the truth; he can be trusted. If you felt angry hesring Mitt’s lies, imagine how angry a foreign government would be! I worry for our country should Romney, although unlikely, win this election. Even loyal Republicans are ashamed of Romney and friends like Todd Akin and moving to the Demicratic ticket. God bless Obama! God blesd America!
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Sharon
Oct. 4th, 2012 at 2:42 pm
I am one of those Republicans who joined Republicans for Obama and am voting for Obama on Nov 6th. Republican Party has gone hard right and it is all about lies to fit the narrative they have today which means truth has taken a real hit. They see nothing wrong with lying and have bought into the Karl Rove lie, cheat, and steal to win. This will be my first vote for a Dem for President and if the GOP doesn’t move back center right, it won’t be my last. My adult children are all voting for Obama along with extended family in my home state of Ohio and Florida.
As a woman, you would have to take a stupid pill to support this group of Republican white males including Akin. I don’t vote for aggressive, condescending, smirking liars like Romney. Didn’t like him in 2008 and really cannot stand him and his lies in 2012. Ryan is just as bad. Anyone who changes from Obama to Romney over this debate after what has been coming out, should think twice because Romney lied 28 times in the debate and actually more when you count some of the lies he did more than once.
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julia patterson-massey
Oct. 4th, 2012 at 4:47 am
taped the debate, waiting to view it, after i read all the comments..quite remarkable so far, i’m not sure whether to laugh or cry. of course i will form my own opinion, but believe i know already which way i’m leaning.
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DittoPost (@DittoPost)
Oct. 4th, 2012 at 7:03 am
Sounds like you’re in panic mode. These so called “lies” are really just your opinion of the future. Anyone who says Mitt wasn’t the better steward of the economy last night is just delusional.
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Paws
Oct. 4th, 2012 at 8:32 am
Whether something is a lie or not is not an opinion. If a person says something that is not factual, it is a lie.
Romney lied six ways to Sunday during this debate. You believe him and that certainly is your right, but you need to learn the difference between lies and opinions because Romney is lying to you – and you’re believing it.
I hope you are in the 1% because you will cast your vote for a ticket that only cares about the 1%. If you’re not in the 1%, I hope you are not in your 40s or 50s and hoping for Social Security and Medicare when you retire. It won’t be there for you. I also hope you don’t lose your job and your health insurance if you have it now, otherwise you’re in the middle of the ocean drowning if you get sick. I hope you’re not a woman and expecting to have control over your reproductive health. Need I remind you that Ryan voted for the Blunt/Rubio amendments, as well as a personhood bill? If you own a home, say goodbye to your mortgage and property tax deductions because Romney will take them away. Get food stamps or any other assistance? Kiss it goodbye. Have a kid relying on financial aid and Pell Grants? Bring him or her home and tell them to get a job because they’re going to lose their aid. Do you have a child under age 26 who is on your health insurance right now? They better start looking for another plan if Romney gets elected because you’re not going to be able to keep them on your plan. Anyone really, really sick and receiving costly treatment? Hope they don’t get to their lifetime cap set by the insurance company because if ObamaCare(s) is repealed, say hello to lifetime caps again.
Facts are facts, lies are lies. Romney is only familiar with lies. End of story.
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Amy Johnson
Oct. 4th, 2012 at 7:35 am
Romney nauseates me. He just lies and lies and is like a chameleon…changing to whatever he thinks people want best. Like when he had that awful spray tan job for his Univision speech. And wearing a yamikah on his head in Israel. He is so full of lies I honestly do not understand why anyone is falling for it!
I don’t think Romney won the debate at all. Obama was the cool, calm, collected and smart professional man I admire. He was honest and sincere and did not try to pull the wool over our eyes. He let Romney’s words make a fool of himself. All that man has to do is talk and he just digs himself a bigger hole! Like cutting PBS and Big Bird! And saying how upset he is that when his wife’s plane caught on fire she could not open a window!
That’s all bad enough, then we find out things about him like having his dog ride in a carrier on the top of his car’s roof. And bullying a gay kid when he was in school and cutting his hair off. And dressing up in his fathers police officer uniform when in college and going out in it, which totally freaked out his college room mates.
Such a scummy creepy guy…He just cannot be our president! Obama is so inspiring…I am not normally into politicians…I usually think they all stink. But there is something different about Obama. I get the feeling I can trust him and that he knows how hard it is to be a regular person struggling to make it in the world and that he has our back. He cares about schools and everyone having healthcare and green energy sources being pursued instead of destroying the environment.
This 30 yr old female in Washington State will definitely be voting Obama/Biden in 2012!!!
PS…Watch the video on youtube by Key of Awesome called “Hot Problems” about Romney ;-)
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Floyd Brookman
Oct. 4th, 2012 at 8:12 am
We all agree that Obama stayed the high road, but am I confident that played well to an audience obsessed with Honey Boo Boo and Facebook?
I remember all too well debates where the articulate incumbent remained poised and dignified when continually faced with lies and vague policies by a charismatic former Governor.
The governor won the election by a landslide and served two terms.
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Paws
Oct. 4th, 2012 at 8:22 am
And so the postmortem begins.
The President came off presidential, he did not lose his cool, and his answers were confident and concise and pretty clear. I saw a Romney doing what he’s been doing – lying and deceiving the American people. I imagine we’re going to be seeing a lot of ads from the Obama campaign with snippets from this debate using Romney’s own words. Romney’s words have come back to bite him in the butt throughout this campaign – he just gave Obama a ton of ammunition.
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Anne
Oct. 4th, 2012 at 8:33 am
I sincerely hope all of Romney’s lies are used in subsequent ads and juxtaposed against previous contradictory statements he has made in the past. I also hope that Lehrer’s days of moderating debates are over, because he did a horrible job in letting Romney run over him and talk out of turn, in addition to lying. I saw the same condescending nastiness in Romney that he has directed at people like the teacher at the round table discussion and at a father in New York City who told him that the unions in that city and the parents enjoy a good relationship. Because of his own adversarial attitude about unionized teachers, he was dismissive and was not open to listening to folks whom he disagrees with.
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Vonda
Oct. 4th, 2012 at 8:34 am
I’m an independent. I am her careful to take a debate for just what it is, a debate. Although Romney lied, he won the debate with those lies. Obama’s performance was lackluster. He didn’t call Romney out on the lies and he did force him to focus of his so called plan. On the contrary Romney controlled the debate and forced Obama to play by his rules by constantly defending what he’s done over the past few years. Romney won the debate…..not the election but the debate
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Mike
Oct. 4th, 2012 at 9:20 am
Sadly, I think in the Public’s eye, Romney won. Which scares me. Regardless of the amount of lies told by Romney, which the AVERAGE American doesn’t know how to differeniate from the truth, All they saw was the debate and the lies Romney told, and the fact Obama didn’t call him on it puts it in their mind Romney was telling the truth.
Most of the people I know, which is very telling, are going to vote Anybody but Obama. When I asked them what makes the others qualified for President, they just said, “I don’t know anything about them, but I dont want 4 more years of this…”
Republican: Obama lies! Hell, I still don’t think he is American
Me: Attention Everybody! Hawaii is NOT a state anymore. If you’re still gonna believe that lie, then I want to see Romney’s Birth Certificate then.
Republican: Why? He’s American.
Me: How do you know this?
Republican: Cause he said so
Me[Under Breath]: ugh.
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Kevtrsk
Oct. 4th, 2012 at 10:17 am
Only in the republican party can you crap out lie after lie after lie to the American people with a straight face and call it a win. I saw the debate, I know the key words they use when they are talking about limited government, and switching it all over to private sector. Meaning further enrichment of the very rich. We need the government to balance to scales. Not removed them from every aspect of our lives. We need to raise up a strong middle class. “Robme” is not the man for that job. LIES DO NOT A DEBATE WIN> we have the Internet. We have the facts. Romney lost on truth. Style. What good is the style of his debate if he cant tell the truth. What good is REPUBLICAN NEW POLES when they lie about who won? it show 78 22 here in Romney’s favor. I about fell off my chair. Today’s consumer and arm chair politicians are very savey with checking facts.
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Yvonne Lynch-Foy
Oct. 4th, 2012 at 10:43 am
Your doing just “FIND” Mr.President.
“HAPPY ANNIVERSARY”
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TexasRainmaker
Oct. 4th, 2012 at 12:50 pm
Wow, you liberals are really delusional. I have counted at least a dozen different excuses across the internet this morning about why Obama got his ass kicked… from using Kerry to prep to the high altitude. You guys on the left are so blinded by partisanship, you can’t even admit when your hero appears to show up with a knife to a cannon battle. You keep projecting your own lies by claiming Romney is lying, but the facts are public record and despite your media co-conspirators’ best efforts, the propaganda just won’t cut it this time. You were better off blaming Bush and chanting mindless refrains like “hope and change” or “si se puede”. But claiming anything about last night’s debate other than the simple fact that Romney mopped the floor with teleprompter-less Obama is as ridiculous as Baghdad Bob claiming no American troops in Iraq when they’re in the background of his press conference waving at the camera. Time for you idiots to go back into the political wilderness for 8 – 12 more years and let the grownups take the wheel again.
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1voice1vote
Oct. 4th, 2012 at 2:55 pm
TexasRainmaker,” Texas is suffering its worst one-year drought in a century”
You champion a return to the failed policies of GW Bush that got us into the mess of 2007-8, TXRainmaker. Like your rain-making capabilities, perhaps your long-term memory has evaporated.
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ibwilliamsi
Oct. 4th, 2012 at 1:39 pm
I was very frustrated that Bishop Romney explained the only real difference between Romneycare and Obamacare as being that Romneycare was passed by a cooperative bipartisan Democratic led legislature, and Obama did it without the cooperation of the Republicans.
Who gives a shit how it got passed? It got passed. Do we really want to debate healthcare every time we elect a new President based upon the process rather than on the outcome?
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James
Oct. 4th, 2012 at 1:51 pm
Its amazing how biased and slanted your review of this debate is. What were you watching? This should automatically strip you of any credibility when it comes to an objective view of anything political. What a joke. Obama fanboys shouldn’t even attempt to have blogs or websites.
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Thelyingking
Oct. 4th, 2012 at 3:20 pm
The lying man did it again and the nut jobs who support him was once again deceived. Republicans love to believe the polls when it shows Romney winning, but for the past week they were crying about how biased the media was and in portraying Romney unfavorably came up with the conspiracy theory. I don’t need a debate to tell me what I already know. Romney is a liar and the truth is not in him. Obama is a man of integrity and compassion for the american people. Those individuals voting for Romney simply because they don’t like the color of Obama’s skin will pay in the end if Romney is elected. Romney may have won the debate: but, if he wins the election america loses. The republicans love to talk about being fiscally responsible after they destroy the economy. however, when they are in control it’s like a spoiled little rich kid, being given the keys to their parent mercedes and unlimited use of the credit card. Spend, spend, spend until you drop. Then when they run out of money; they want to relinquish the keys back to the adults (Democrats) to clean up their mess.
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L- Kelly
Oct. 4th, 2012 at 4:01 pm
It is my feeling that after the election the jobs market will open up and it does not matter who is elected. I’ve heard that there are about nine million jobs that employer have in the country, but their waiting until next year to start hiring. And the reason for the wait is they want to see what they will have to pay in taxes, benefits, and wages. If we have a republican WH it will be allot less operating cost, and that is why they have kept the unemployment at a high level. Since the setting WH administration gets the blame for the unemployment rate, it just makes sense. It may sound like a conspiracy theory, but it is one of a very few reasons why so many companies are refusing to hire right now. Consider this, with all of the cheap money currently in the system why would shorthanded company with hold jobs?
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Christy Seholm
Oct. 4th, 2012 at 5:29 pm
With what us happening to the security of our Country in the Middle East, knowing that “Death to America” is a passion for terrorists, unemployment skyrocketing, deficit is out of control and all you people can talk about is BIG BIRD? Why not grow-up and look at your kids and tell them life is perfect the way it is and try not to barf. Everyone can have different ways to fix the problem but how can ANYONE even THINK about putting Obama back in Office. Are you kidding? We are really going to blame ALL of this on Busch? He has been out of office for 4 yrs. Stop using the Republicans as your scapegoat, STOP blaming past Presidents, STOP pretending that Obama is innocent. Why would you depend on the Government. Look around you, America is NOT flourishing. Why would I want my kids to stay on my Insurance until they are pushing 30. yrs. old? THINK PEOPLE
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1voice1vote
Oct. 4th, 2012 at 6:01 pm
“..all YOU PEOPLE can talk about..”
One hand clapping. Congratulations, Christy, here’s your Fox University diploma; {F.U.}.
We are all Big Bird today!
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Railroadmike
Oct. 4th, 2012 at 5:58 pm
When I heard Romney say a quote from Joseph Gobbells the proprganda minster for Nazi Germany and no one called him out on the statement I turned the channel.
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James Threadgill
Oct. 4th, 2012 at 6:07 pm
While GOP has used lies and distortions in elections in the past, the level of mendacity of the Romney campaign surpasses all other, setting a new low for honesty. It is certain Paul Ryan will use the same tactics next week, doubling down on the prevarication.
The American people are not stupid and will easily see through the duplicity of Romney-Ryan and hand them a solid “No Way” come Election Day. Perhaps the Tea party obstructionism will end in the House and as a Democratic majority prevails there as well.
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Inez
Oct. 4th, 2012 at 10:50 pm
I watched the debate and was glad that I was not in the audience. I could hardly control myself when Mitt, with his smirk lied about a number of issues. I shook my fist and yelled “LIAR”. I saw the look on Barcks’ face like he could hardly believe that Mittshit. When the media credits Mitt with a victory, they are not paying attention to his lies. He made have a louder voice, compared to soft spoken Barack, but he is no future President of my country>>>>>>When is the blockade from the Republican congress going to be a part of this debacle-debate? Boehner has publicaly stated many months that the Reps objective was to make Barack a one time President. No amount of dealing by Barack will change that. So get real America, the problem lies with the GOPers in Congress.
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Inez
Oct. 4th, 2012 at 10:52 pm
This Not a repeat, as the debate was yesterday and I have not postedany coment on that!
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Inez
Oct. 4th, 2012 at 11:00 pm
I wAs totally disappointed in the actions or non actions, OF THE moderator… by letting Mitt go on and on endlessly, I hope the next debate, which sets time limits is better controlled, Mitt even overtalked the moderator and wanever criticized for doingsame. although once he was put in his place.My President is a gentleman, Mitt is a BULLY!!
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End discrimination Now
Oct. 4th, 2012 at 11:02 pm
people think romney is lying because the democrats spent $3b, funded from rich donkrs, on brsinwashing them. romney is nit lying. he is trying to tell a truth voters do not want to hear.
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Obamahasmyvote
Oct. 5th, 2012 at 2:59 am
U r full of shit to believe that…Romney can’t explain what his plans r because he saying one thing but is gonna do something totally different…I feel sorry for u and all the other jackasses that is gonna vote for Romney
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Dee
Oct. 5th, 2012 at 9:38 pm
It’s called the Rope-a-dope! and Mitt Romney is falling for it. As soon as Romney is worn out from trying to explain his way out of things, Obama will come in for the knock out!
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What a Bunch of Whiners
Oct. 6th, 2012 at 10:47 am
Ombummer has been lying to the public about Romney’s stance on everything. That is why he got slammed in the debate because he could not handle the truth or counter it.
Typical Dumbocrat, If Obama cannot debate the facts he makes stuff up and you believe it. If that does not work liberals say your lying or call you names.
Check the FACTS before you reply with all of your insults.
What a bunch of liberal Whiners you people are. A true leader does not come out crying about losing but stands up like a man and says I lost and will do better next time.
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Shiva (Moderator)
Oct. 6th, 2012 at 10:52 am
So basically Romney has had one tax plan for the last year, talked about it constantly, then totally runs from it in the debates and you call that Obama lying?
Very interestink
Oh yes, there was Romney who for 18 months demanded that regulations be taken away from the banks and wall street who during the debates said he liked regulations and that we couldnt operate without them. Was that Obama lying as ROmney was speaking?
I know you wont be back to answer, little cowards never do
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