Thursday’s debate involved Congressman Paul Ryan recycling previously debunked talking points yet refusing to be specific, while Vice President Biden was referred to as a “human PolitiFact”.
Ryan was said to have ‘Visibly Gulped’ while being ‘Hard put to answer’ last night. The gulping was so evident that Obama for America released a new web video that that pokes fun at Congressman Ryan’s endless thirst and the public’s thirst for answers they never got from Ryan.
Watch “The Romney-Ryan Strategy: Thirsting for an Answer” here:
Chicago explained, “Last night, Paul Ryan doubled down on widely and repeatedly debunked attacks. He hid the truth of his and Mitt Romney’s plans that would devastate the middle class. He offered only a troubling silence when pressed on a woman’s right to choose. And, as the Vice President noted, Mitt Romney and Paul Ryan seem to believe that almost half of the American people are moochers, or see themselves as victims. Voters are tired of cheap lines to mask dangerous policies.”
The reviews were unanimous in seeing a lack of substance from Ryan. A roundup:
George Stephanopoulos: “Over the course of the debate, more of the issues fell in Biden’s corner, he was able to take control of more of the debate.”
Chuck Todd: “If you were scoring as a debate coach, you’d say, ‘boy, the guy who controlled that debate was Joe Biden.”
Mark Shields: “I just thought he really kind of hung Ryan out to dry on the no details of the tax plan. I mean, that really was exposed.”
Mike Allen: “This also is a reminder that the promise of the Paul Ryan pick was supposed to be that they were going to tell the American people hard truths, this was a sign that they were getting us ready for an adult conversation. Well, we haven’t had one hard truth said to us since and I don’t remember Paul Ryan giving us a hard truth tonight.”
Governor Martin O’Malley: “People said ‘oh he laughed too much’, but it is laughable that we would be 28 days out from this election and they still haven’t told us how they’re going to do this wonderful plan that all the details are behind door number three. That stuff is laughable. You can’t cut by 20% taxes for millionaires and billionaires, corporations by 30% and not have to pay for it somehow.”
Jim Vandehei: “There was an enormous gap, it seemed, in substance and specificity, the gap between Joe Biden and Paul Ryan when it came to everything from what’s happening in Afghanistan to the Middle East to the defense budget to taxes. On every single one of those, it’s like Biden came ready to brawl, he came ready to brawl with lots of nitty gritty details.”
John Harris: “It seems to me…the consensus back here in our newsroom is that [Ryan] did at best a passable performance…He really didn’t do anything positive to help his own reputation or help the case of his ticket.”
Lois Romano: “You know, I think [Ryan] had a missed opportunity on his own budget. You know, it’s his own budget, his own numbers. I feel like Biden got the best of him on it.”
Sam Youngman: “I tend to agree with Jonathan, I saw a very long pause from Congressman Ryan when the discussion turned to abortion. I don’t think he was probably prepared to discuss that.”
Wolf Blitzer: “Congressman Ryan’s low point happened near the end of the debate around 10:20 eastern when he was asked about abortion.”
Jonathan Chait: “I predicted that Paul Ryan would wipe the floor with Joe Biden. That did not so much happen. Ryan did not perform quite as well as I expected – he seemed greener, younger, and he visibly gulped when challenged. But Biden delivered a revelatory performance that proved me utterly wrong.”
Buzzfeed: “After effectively vanishing from the national stage, Ryan re-emerged Thursday not as the intellectual leader of the right, but as passable debater with a slightly crooked necktie.”
Reuters: “While Ryan tried to depict the Obama administration as projecting weakness, Biden hit back hard with repeated questions on details of Romney’s foreign policy plan, which Ryan was hard put to answer.”
Fox focus group participant: “I found that the Vice President’s position on foreign policy was stronger than Paul Ryan’s. I really thought he scored some pretty good points there.”
National Review’s Robert Costa: “It wasn’t a knockout performance [for Ryan].”
Ryan left the impression that he was a young, green, inexperienced kid talking about things he didn’t really understand. This was probably due to the emphasis on foreign policy, which is a Biden speciality whereas Ryan once claimed he had foreign policy experience because he voted to send us to war. Ryan was unveiled in last night’s debate as less of a policy wonk and more of a talking point with cluelessly extreme ideas about abortion.
Congressman Paul Ryan revealed himself to be what he is – a member of the House, rather than a national figure. He looked like a paper tiger Congressman rather than a future Vice President, and there aren’t enough talking points or smirks to repackage the ideologically naive true believer into a serious politician.





j
Oct. 12th, 2012 at 11:16 am
Ryan could not get off his rehearsed points, and that was because he really does not know anything, a lady on a call in program this morning said he was once her congressperson and she said he lied then and he has not changerd a bit.
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David Hinson
Oct. 12th, 2012 at 11:48 am
i am hearing how rude biden was, that is so laughable, i wish there could have been a punch in the face for every lie ryan told. what tells me biden won, is that now major corporations are sending memos that if President Obama wins to expect layoffs- truely exposing class warfare
the hidden 4 year campaign of disinformation [hate, fear and lies]aimed at President Obama that has the nuttiest groups aligned [that otherwise would be at odds with each other] are beyond reason, yet after bidens win last night seems to have the corporate elites visibly shaken to use this extortion tactic. WAKE THE F@(* UP AMERICA
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Sally
Oct. 12th, 2012 at 12:03 pm
He answered nearly every question with an attack on Obama, and cheerleading for Romney. He came off as childish, frankly. And what was with the gallon of water he drank? Or was it stronger? Didn’t help. He obviously knows as much about foreign policy as Palin. And little more about the economy he is supposed to excel at.
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Sandra
Oct. 12th, 2012 at 12:14 pm
Blame the Republicans for elevating this man child to some kind of genius when in reality he’s not exactly the brightest bulb in the room. I have no idea where the term ‘wonk’ came into being in describing this individual. His first interview re. economics and his laughable questionable budget showed him up to be a wanker, not a wonk. What an insult to the true wonks out there. A 42 year old man who has spent all his adult life worshipping a character like Ayn Rand who preached selfishness and greed and thinks her ideas which I’m sure she herself didn’t believe is the new bible. It’s time he got a real job in the real world. His constituents should send him packing.
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Hrafnkell Haraldsson
Oct. 12th, 2012 at 12:19 pm
It’s a beautiful ad. Biden was a lion, and Ryan the cheap hustler who got put on the spot by somebody who wasn’t going to let his lies pass without comment.
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CarolO
Oct. 12th, 2012 at 1:20 pm
Biden won the debate for the following reasons.
Medicare and Social Security. We have had Social Security for 77 years and Medicare for 47 and every election Republicans go after it. FIX IT. Don’t end it.
Biden made a strong point for more tax breaks to the rich rather than the middle class as well as bringing up the Grover Norquist pledge.
Ryan could not commit to Afghanistan troop withdrawal and hedged on that. He also didn’t seem to know Afghanistan troops were replacing US troops when he claimed we had less troops doing what more had done. On abortion, Biden nailed it. It does not matter what your personal beliefs are. This is a country of all people and all religions. You can not pose laws on others based on your beliefs. Personal religious beliefs do not belong as government policy.
Ryan complained about the stimulus and then asked for funds himself was a good one in Joe’s corner. Ryan also quoted Scrantons unemployment numbers wrong. Asked what cuts Ryan was talking about, again he had no answer.
Libya is still under investigation. Facts will come out on that. I wonder when there will be
investigation on the FACT that Iraq was a FAKE war that killed thousands?
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TigerLily
Oct. 12th, 2012 at 1:40 pm
I absolutely loved it! SO MUCH TRUTH THROWN INTO RYAN’S FACE. Ryan really didn’t know how to act after all that. Just like Obama got thrown with so man lies coming from Romney and didn’t know how to RE-ACT Ryan thought he actually was going to bring Biden down with NOTHING BUT LIES and thougth Biden wouldn’t call him out? THE GOP PICK THEIR IDJITS WELL.
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danny6114
Oct. 12th, 2012 at 3:02 pm
I think Ryan knew he was in for a rough night, when they came out to be seated, Ryan took a big swig of water and swished around his mouth to help with how dry it was. He was scared.
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Eykis
Oct. 12th, 2012 at 3:14 pm
Methinks LyinRyan had his “talking points” all rehearsed and when pressed to actually answer ANY question, he had ZERO answers, only his pre-planned comments which VP Biden did NOT ALLOW and LilPaulieBoy DID NOT ANSWER A SINGLE QUESTION. Just rattled on and LIED.
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lm945
Oct. 12th, 2012 at 5:01 pm
Biden called Ryan out on each and every lie. He never once used the word “liar.” His laughter and his body language said it all.
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Scott
Oct. 12th, 2012 at 7:51 pm
Ryan reminded me of a high school kid who goes to school and parrots what he heard his dad and his dad’s buddies talking about at the poker game the night before.
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N. Mullet
Oct. 12th, 2012 at 8:11 pm
I would just like to know how and why this smarmy idiot ended up Chair of the House Budget Committee…and if he even has a chance to be re-elected to the House seat he currently holds..If so..I think there is either something very wrong with the Wisconsin election system or they’ve been hijacked by aliens!!
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marvin lephew
Oct. 12th, 2012 at 8:18 pm
Anyone who believes what Fox news has to say is a moron. Roger Ailes runs it, a former Bush aide who is now what I consider is PR director for the Fox Republican party firm. Fox cannot get a broadcast license in Canada because they are liars.
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Boodie Ugwumba
Oct. 12th, 2012 at 8:36 pm
What we witnessed in that debate was a classic example of what happens when lies come face to face with truth.
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Otto
Oct. 12th, 2012 at 8:52 pm
Ryan must’ve had a serious case of cotton-mouth, with all the water he kept drinking!
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Brian Bloomer
Oct. 12th, 2012 at 9:31 pm
Bill Maher called 911 to report a grown man beating up on a child on his TV set. :)
One debater was telling the truth. The other was trying to manipulate the truth.
Well done, Joe
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BERNICE
Oct. 12th, 2012 at 10:24 pm
If that glass had been a river he would have jumped in!!! He tried his best to hide his fear and sea of LIES in a glass, but they overflowed for ALL to see!! He got his ass served up by Kick Ass Joe!!!
BAM!!!
Crow is a tough meat to swallow and Lyin’ Ryan was force feed it ALL night long for his own good! His teacher was trying to break lil’boy Ryan of growing into a full grown LIAR like his pappy Romney!
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Annette
Oct. 12th, 2012 at 11:26 pm
Here is a fun video that counts all of Ryan’s sips. :)
http://youtu.be/1B4ogkoLksE
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D. W. Skinner
Oct. 13th, 2012 at 12:14 am
Idea for an SNL skit. Put the candidates in electrified dog collars. Everytime they lie they get zapped. Each consecutive lie the juice gets stronger. Would be funny to see ryan electrocute himself. lol
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Bjk
Oct. 13th, 2012 at 8:01 am
Have another shot of voka Ryan this way you can say “I don’t recall” and everyone thought that was water.
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James Threadgill
Oct. 13th, 2012 at 6:22 pm
Some say Biden was rude. I disagree. Ryan kept repeating the same tired old Right Wing lies. (Trickle down is when the rich urinate on your leg and tell you it’s raining.)
Where I grew up there’s nothing wrong with being rude to a lying, selfish, condescending Eddie Munster looking little snot. In fact we’re generally ruder than can be expressed with mere words. Fisticuffs, Bowie knives, and six shooters come to mind. We’ve even got a town named Cut ‘N Shoot….
Further Joe’s behavior wasn’t nearly as rude as throwing the elderly, the poor, and the environment under a bus so Sheldon Adelson and the Koch brothers are free to pollute at will and escape paying taxes. Rude is far too kind compared to what he deserves. A good old Texas butt whupping would have been more appropriate.
http://regressivewatch.org/wordpress/index.php
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JayHobeSound
Oct. 15th, 2012 at 1:12 pm
VP Biden was awesome!
I wouldn’t believe Ryan if his tongue was notarized.
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gsb
Oct. 16th, 2012 at 6:26 pm
as forn Rya and his h20 drinking,he even slured his words some. unless he has a lisp? i noticed it on his “s”. he was on somthing other then water!!!!
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