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Jon Husted Hatches a Plan to Make Sure Democrats Never Win Ohio Again
By: Dennis SNov. 11th, 2012more from Dennis S
Now that Barack Obama is the official and non-recountable winner in Scott-land, let’s fast-forward to the next bundle of mischief the Republicans are going to unleash on citizen innocents from here to the mid-terms. Like a jumping bean on Meth, far-right dirty tricksters are incapable of taking a break from their treachery of cutting Democrats off at the knees.
The red states are going to be the busiest of little bees (jumping beans?) in the continued creation of their latest political depravity. Here’s one tactic that is a favorite of Ohio’s radical right Secretary of State, Jon Husted, arguably the most partisan state politician in the nation.
This is Jon’s proposal as forwarded to me by an Ohio Professor-Emeritus friend of mine. A little background (spoiler alert: this could be a tad boring). Redistricting takes place every 10 years, right after the Census. The object is to make the population of each district roughly the same, but it’s really little more than establishing political advantage for the party in power. Most legislatures are the majordomos in the process, though they pretend to listen to input from others. The aforementioned Professor and I were both on an Ohio state commission (called a Politician Commission) for 2000 census redistricting. He had a brilliant and extremely fair apportionment idea that I, alone, supported.
As I’ve already explained, the party in power draws up the districts through states and/or commissions to favor their continued power to the greatest extent possible. Back to Husted. Here’s what Jon wants to do as tracked by the Daily Kos Meteor Blades from its origins at Plunderbund, a blog self-described as focusing on Ohio and national politics.
According to the above sources, and I’m quoting here, “The winner of each congressional district is awarded the districts electoral vote.” End quote.
So, what’s the big deal? Well, 48 of our states follow the winner-take-all model. In other words, if you win the state’s popular vote, you win the state’s electoral votes. You’ll recall from an earlier submission, electoral votes are 2 automatic votes representing the number of Senators in Congress from the state (the same for each state) added to the number of House Congressional Representatives. Slicing up Florida’s Electoral votes for instance; 27 House members + 2 Senators = 29 Electoral votes.
Here’s what would have happened if the Husted proposal had been in force. A Romney victory in a given district, would have given that district’s electoral vote to Mitt, so instead of Obama’s winner-take-all victory, the electoral votes would be split. In Florida Romney won 17 electoral votes, but not the popular vote. Even if the majority of the state’s voters didn’t vote for Romney, he’d still be given electoral credit for the districts he did win. Those would be added to the national total. Capisce?
Here’s the real world example of what would have happened in Presidential Election 2012. Obama would be a one-term President. Plunderbund provides a useful analysis. The most critical state, Ohio, actually would break down district-wise to award Romney a 12-6 electoral advantage, the popular vote be damned. Other states Obama won, but would lose under Husted’s plan, would be Michigan, Pennsylvania, Virginia and Wisconsin. Lump those states together with their split electoral votes and you get a President Mitt-Witt as the vote breaks at exactly the required number of Electoral votes; 270. The proposal would also have had a dramatic pro-Republican impact on House seats.
Look for the American Legislative Exchange Council (ALEC) to dive right in the middle of this one in Ohio and numerous other red state legislatures.
Another ongoing piece of election-era devilry is the never-ending pilfering of Democratic yard signs. This is not to say that Democrats aren’t given to the same misdeed from time to time, but real and anecdotal accounts from 2012, give the Republicans a big edge in this department. In my neck of the woods, and I do effectively live in the woods with my wildlife neighbors of deer, coyotes, Southern Black Racers, copperheads, fire ants, black widows, lizards, squirrels and chipmunks sharing my nature-nurtured abode, I heard repeatedly of the theft of Obama signs.
Observant Democrats estimated that there was about a 20-1 ratio in stolen Obama signs to pilfered Romney signs. Ride down virtually any road, city, country or otherwise and Obama signs were rarer than an eighty-year-old at a One Direction concert.
So, let’s all agree that Upstate South Carolina wing-nuts have little patience for freedom of political expression via yard-moored, printed matter supported by wires. It’s likely that, after a clump of female refusals to their Bud-induced overtures for a fling, the disappointed and slightly hammered red neck pulls his ’94′ Dakota up to the nearest Obama yard sign and proceeds to tug it out of the ground and toss it in the bed. He probably made a few more stops before weaving back home.
There are ways of, shall I say, ‘discouraging’ such behaviors. Some are downright nasty and dangerous. I’ve heard of people wiring up signs and shocking would-be thieves. Not cool. Don’t do anything to hurt the misguided dunces. There are too many other fun ways to teach this anti-first amendment boob a lesson. I actually got some tips from a blog dedicated to not getting mad, but getting even. White wheel bearing grease was mentioned prominently. Then there was Vaseline, though its vulnerable to the sun; pepper oils purportedly work better. Somebody suggested a spray of lithium grease.
There are cameras (trail, deer, game etc.) you can secret on the property or in your house or outbuilding to catch the bad guy in the act. I sort of like the idea of rigging up a security alarm of some kind, so when he makes the first grab all hell breaks loose. By all means get the license plate number, sic the gendarmes on the perp and press charges. I would also think about “theft-proofing” signs if there is such a thing. I guess if your window is close enough to the street, that would work. Or a roof sign or something way up in a tree that could still be seen. At least the purloiner risks life and limb for the illicit climb.
For you rare Democratic 1 percenters, hire a couple of ex-Seals in full charcoal night-camo and armed with NVD’s, to hide in the weeds, grab the guy, cuff him and carry him off to the pokey.
Bottom line. Stay on top of all the upcoming inevitable political and constitutional vandalism from the Republican Party and its legislators. Obama’s win has made them really mad.
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Grant Devereaux
Nov. 11th, 2012 at 6:25 pm
This would be fine, if was applied to all states, such as Arizona and Texas, where Democrats would pick up a lot of lost electoral votes.
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Raise More Hell
Nov. 11th, 2012 at 9:48 pm
No it wouldn’t be fine. The GOP has control of the House remember, and they would win elections they would otherwise lose. We’ll be winning in Texas by 2010 anyway, given demographics. This is a plan to delay the inevitable decline of white voters, probably so they can seize power outright, or more likely, finish impoverishing the middle class and looting the Treasury.
A much better idea is National Popular vote, where states vote to award their electoral votes to the winner of the national popular vote as soon as states totaling 270 or more electoral votes also agree. While only 8 states (VT, MD, WA, IL, NJ, MA, CA, HI) plus the District of Columbia have voted to do so, totaling 132 electoral votes, 49% of the way. http://www.nationalpopularvote.com/
While you might say the popular vote is close too, this would be a game changer. Everyone’s vote would count. Piling up huge vote totals in inner cites would matter. It would guarantees that campaigns would all pursue a 50-state-strategy. Demds could easily up turnout in the big states like NY, CA, and IL.
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Raise More Hell
Nov. 11th, 2012 at 9:49 pm
That s/b “winning in Texas by 2020″ (although some say as early as 2018.
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toto
Nov. 12th, 2012 at 1:04 pm
A survey of Ohio voters showed 70% overall support for a national popular vote for President.
By political affiliation, support for a national popular vote was 81% for a national popular vote among Democrats, 65% among Republicans, and 61% among Others.
By age, support for a national popular vote was 73% among 18-29 year olds, 60% among 30-45 year olds, 67% among 46-65 year olds, and 78% for those older than 65.
By gender, support for a national popular vote was 84% among women and 54% among men.
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Maine and Nebraska use Husted’s proposed method. Maine and Nebraska voters prefer a national popular vote method.
A survey of Maine voters showed 77% overall support for a national popular vote for President.
In a follow-up question presenting a three-way choice among various methods of awarding Maine’s electoral votes,
* 71% favored a national popular vote;.
* 21% favored Maine’s current system of awarding its electoral votes by congressional district; and.
* 8% favored the statewide winner-take-all system (i.e., awarding all
of Maine’s electoral votes to the candidate who receives the most votes
statewide).
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A survey of Nebraska voters showed 74% overall support for a national popular vote for President.
In a follow-up question presenting a three-way choice among various methods of awarding Nebraska’s electoral votes,
* 60% favored a national popular vote;.
* 28% favored Nebraska’s current system of awarding its electoral votes by congressional district; and.
* 13% favored the statewide winner-take-all system (i.e., awarding all
of Nebraska’s electoral votes to the candidate who receives the most
votes statewide).
NationalPopularVote.com
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Elizabeth
Nov. 11th, 2012 at 11:23 pm
If it applied to all states, the final vote would look like the incoming Congress. Yes, the Democrats got more votes for the House of Representatives than the Republicans did. Because of redistricting, the Republicans have more seats. Under the proposed idea, Romney would be the President regardless of the popular vote.
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Sandra
Nov. 12th, 2012 at 12:53 pm
This Canadian is confused. Isn’t the ECVs embedded in the US Constitution and does not the US Constitution take precedence over State Constitution. I don’t get how these traitors can legally mess with the ECVs unless the law is ratifed in the US Congress.
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toto
Nov. 12th, 2012 at 1:00 pm
Unable to agree on any particular method for selecting presidential electors, the Founding Fathers left the choice of method exclusively to the states in section 1 of Article II of the U.S. Constitution– “Each State shall appoint, in such Manner as the Legislature thereof may direct, a Number of Electors . . .” The U.S. Supreme Court has repeatedly characterized the authority of the state legislatures over the manner of awarding their electoral votes as “plenary” and “exclusive.”
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Blue Mark
Nov. 13th, 2012 at 11:05 pm
This plan is possible under the Constitution’s Electoral College, as it leaves it up to each state how they award their electoral votes – indeed it was not originally intended to involve voters at all – the state legislatures were expected to choose the electors – that is how George Washington was made president without a national election.
Maine and Nebraska already do this, but since they are small states where gerrymandering is inconsequential it does no harm, it is in fact fairly representative.
But as states get larger the gerrymandering effect becomes irresistible. Ohio is the most egregiously gerrymandered state in America (Texas is probably close). Both this awful plan, and its antidote – the National Popular Vote plan are possible withing the constitutional bounds of the Electoral College.
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toto
Nov. 12th, 2012 at 1:09 pm
Dividing more states’ electoral votes by congressional district winners would magnify the worst features of the Electoral College system.
If the district approach were used nationally, it would be less fair and less accurately reflect the will of the people than the current system. In 2004, Bush won 50.7% of the popular vote, but 59% of the districts. Although Bush lost the national popular vote in 2000, he won 55% of the country’s congressional districts.
The district approach would not provide incentive for presidential candidates to campaign in a particular state or focus the candidates’ attention to issues of concern to the state. With the 48 state-by-state winner-take-all laws (whether applied to either districts or states), candidates have no reason to campaign in districts or states where they are comfortably ahead or hopelessly behind. Nationwide, there have been only 55 “battleground” districts that were competitive in presidential elections. With the present deplorable 48 state-level winner-take-all system, 80% of the states (including CA and TX) are ignored in presidential elections; however, 88% of the nation’s congressional districts would be ignored if a district-level winner-take-all system were used nationally.
Awarding electoral votes by congressional district could result in third party candidates winning electoral votes that would deny either major party candidate the necessary majority vote of electors and throw the process into Congress to decide.
Because there are generally more close votes on district levels than states as whole, district elections increase the opportunity for error. The larger the voting base, the less opportunity there is for an especially close vote.
Also, a second-place candidate could still win without winning the national popular vote.
A national popular vote is the way to make every person’s vote equal and matter to their candidate because it guarantees that the candidate who gets the most…
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Laurie Mann
Nov. 11th, 2012 at 6:26 pm
I wouldn’t lose any sleep over the yard signs. I drove all over the northeast in mid-October, including the Democratic stronghold of Massachusetts. I saw a depressing number of Republican yard signs. It didn’t matter how many the Republicans put out (or stole) – THEY LOST ANYWAY.
I’m much more concerned about the attempt to change the way electoral votes are apportioned, particularly given the absurd degree of gerrymandering of Congressional districts the Republicans have been engaged in over the last 12 years. That, we need to worry about. Don’t worry about things that don’t matter like the lawn signs.
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Larry K
Nov. 11th, 2012 at 7:59 pm
Correct. Yard signs don’t vote. If they did Romney would have carried Florida easily.
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A Walkaway
Nov. 12th, 2012 at 11:51 am
I’ve read that Romney carried this county 55-45. If it wasn’t for areas like around Miami, he WOULD HAVE carried the state. I haven’t heard how it went in the Panhandle, but McCain carried some counties by over 90%. If it wasn’t for the big cities, he’d have won.
Regarding the signs, it’s called name recognition. I tried and tried to get signs for the Democrats for my yard (which is admittedly on a side street), but the party insisted that signs weren’t the way to go (2010) and that if I wanted to do anything, I was supposed to go house-to-house in my neighborhood and ask people to vote Democrat. One of the people (running for office in another area BTW) actually got mad at me when I said that was committing suicide. I never got a sign. We didn’t get one this time either. People know President Obama’s name this time, but not always in a good way (because of the way the news has been mis-reporting things).
It was very depressing, driving to school (twice a week). There was a minimum of 100 Romney signs, along with a number of “Fire Obama” signs. I’d guess that the number was probably over 200 for Romney… I never tried to count (it’s a 40 mile drive to school). There was only ONE Obama sign along that route this year (an improvement) – but it was there only one time that I saw.
The newspaper even admitted that hundreds of Obama signs had been destroyed – but equated that to 20 Romney signs in only one small subdivision. In 2008, they caught a couple of carloads of “Good Christian” students who admitted they’d destroyed hundreds of Obama signs (said students from a “Good Christian” school). They’re working overtime to try to suppress liberals and Democrats, and I think it’s worse than even liberal outlets are reporting.
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buckeyewill
Nov. 11th, 2012 at 6:28 pm
I am from Ohio, and Husted is a CROOK. He is the worse SoS in the state’s history. He has outdone Ken Blackwell.
He’s disgusting.
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Elizabeth
Nov. 11th, 2012 at 11:24 pm
How long until you can vote him out of office?
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Inez
Nov. 12th, 2012 at 10:59 pm
The DOJ could make hay while the sun shines. Isn’t that a violation of ones’s civil rights?
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luciboo
Nov. 11th, 2012 at 6:47 pm
The Dems did not address voter suppression till it was a done deal. I live in PA and you wouldn’t have known it was going to happen. Then MSNBC pundits started squealing like stuffed pigs. It was repealed for this election. Will be in effect 2014. All they did was create media confusion. I t was probably about as bad as letting the law stand.
My point is if Dems and liberals are going to stop this from happening they need to do it NOW not wait a month before election and start squawking. Needless to say I was disappointed in the fight against PA voter id law.
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Ingrid Buxton
Nov. 11th, 2012 at 8:51 pm
Well, I heard MSNBC talking about it right after it happened in Wisconsin. But Ohio was working on other issues at the time. As was Michigan. These were covered. It was up to the DOJ to fight back. At least Wisconsin has a constitution that doesnt allow anything to get between voter and ballot.
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Sally
Nov. 11th, 2012 at 6:56 pm
luci, I knew about the PA law before it happened. Where were you? And why did you not fight? Here in MI, Rachel alerted us to what we already knew about teh Emergency Manager/KIngs, and we got right to work and got ot on the ballot and shot it dead. I’m sure our dear GOP is busy coming up with the next plan to take away our rights. The point is, thsoe most affected MUST take steps themselves. The media cannot change laws. And if you want the suppression gone before the next midterms, you just hook up with a progressive group in your state and get something on the 2013 ballot. Now is not too soon.
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luciboo
Nov. 11th, 2012 at 7:17 pm
Sally that is my point exactly.
I wrote to many leaders but no one seemed take initiative to fight it. I don’ t want the right wingers to get away with stealing the vote. He have to always be on guard.
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Yellow Dog Yankee
Nov. 11th, 2012 at 7:25 pm
I agree that yard signs are meaningless and unsightly but isn’t it aggravating that Republicans can’t stand any alternative opinions? In our county we tracked down one major thief – the Republican County chairman.
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anita gehret
Nov. 11th, 2012 at 7:38 pm
Husted should be thrown out of his position and charges for voter suppression and treason against the people he serves should be brought upon him and the Gop.
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farmer in WA state
Nov. 11th, 2012 at 7:53 pm
I have the chronic problem of people taking my political signs and /or running them over on the roadside out here in a rural area. This is what works for me.
Pound some Rebar or metal fence posts into the ground and wire the signs to these. You can add some rebar angled outwards if you want. Then a vehicle is extremely not happy when its driver decides to run over the sign. I did find some pieces of someone’s vehicle once. YES, I bet you now wish you would have respected my political signs, you bully! Then you smear sticky Tanglefoot (the stuff used on fruit trees to trap insects) all along the posts and edge of the signs. That stuff is so hard to get off. A thief may try to grab a sign once but then never again. I love to think that there is a bunch of sticky goo all over the unpricipaled neanderthal’s steering wheel and a lot of cursing is going on.
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A Walkaway
Nov. 12th, 2012 at 12:04 pm
(Laugh) this is off-topic, but your story reminded me of something a friend did one time.
There was a guy that was destroying mailboxes all over the place up the road- he’d take the door off his car and ride around late at night hitting them with a club or bat. I guess it was his late-night entertainment.
After loosing a half-dozen mailboxes that way, my friend took some black powder and a few caps and put them in a plastic bag, painted it dull black, and taped it to the side of the mailbox. That night he woke to a loud “BANG!” followed by a crash. That broke the guy of smashing mailboxes – scared the living cr*p out of him and put his car in the ditch. (Yeah, mailbox was destroyed, but it was the last one they lost.)
Oh, and if you see an anchor chain welded into a spiral, with the mailbox on top fixed to what looks like either an anchor or curved metal plate – that usually means that someone has been hitting mailboxes in that area with their truck/car and the owner got tired of it. That “setup” has a nasty habit of embedding the anchor/plate in the back of the engine and ripping it right out of the vehicle. It happened to one person on the road my brother used to live on about 34 years ago – the police arrived to find the pickup truck sitting on top of its own engine and the (drunk) guy wondering why the mailbox hadn’t gone flying like usual.
I wouldn’t recommend these as solutions to sign destruction, but I thought people might find them funny.
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A Walkaway
Nov. 12th, 2012 at 12:17 pm
I should mention… I heard about the drunk wondering what the hell happened and why the mailbox didn’t go flying… but I DID see the pickup on top of its own engine with the anchor wedged between truck and motor.
It was a mess… and a real hoot.
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Colleen
Nov. 11th, 2012 at 7:55 pm
I hope that when this crook comes up for re-election that the people of Ohio vote him out of office.
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SickupandFed
Nov. 11th, 2012 at 10:11 pm
Trust me, we are already on it. Husted is history. He just doesn’t know it yet. And, I can’t speak for everybody but, I was already aware of his latest scheme.
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Rhonda
Nov. 11th, 2012 at 11:13 pm
Husted should be OUSTED! He needs to go somehwere and HIDE!
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ThatDeborahGirl
Nov. 12th, 2012 at 2:48 am
Someone keyed both of my cars. Someone smashed in my friends’ mailbox and spray painted F*** Obama on it. White folks are not above criminal damage, harassment and intimidation yet black folks are regarded as criminals. So sick of this bullshit double standard.
If you want to know why Romney lost, you don’t have to look any further than people of color being tired of being pushed around by racists.
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Kenneth Morgan
Nov. 12th, 2012 at 8:45 am
Too bad many republicans never stray to far from their white hoods. Husted needs to be gone, now. Hysted is a better name for him.
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A Walkaway
Nov. 12th, 2012 at 12:13 pm
Yeah, and if you complain or speak out against that damned standard, you are liable to find your home or something else burning or pets killed or whatever. (Just as they did when I spoke out against teaching creationism in the schools and against their hostility towards the poor.)
I know those types very well… live in an area filled with them (and were they PISSED when we found out we weren’t white, but really American Indian – and they learned about it).
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D. W. Skinner
Nov. 12th, 2012 at 4:05 am
They’ll fail. They failed with voter suppression. Now they just look like pathetic bullies and losers.
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Kay Dennison
Nov. 12th, 2012 at 11:05 am
I’m already committed to the next statewide election in Ohio as I told our local DNC person. Kasich and Husted have done enough damage to the great state of Ohio!
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luciboo
Nov. 12th, 2012 at 2:29 pm
Sandra the reason you are confused is you come from a sane country. Welcome to crazy land where a dog catcher could rewrite voting laws. Ain’t it a great country?
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Lynda
Nov. 12th, 2012 at 3:28 pm
Typical RePUBIC-clown reaction, if we cannot win by fair means, then instead of reflecting on the lesson to be learned, we will try to outmaneuver the electorate and CHEAT. What scum!!!
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Ohioan
Nov. 12th, 2012 at 8:47 pm
Husted need only look to his buddy boy Rove to see where that brand of smug arrogance will get you.
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Nik DeWitt
Nov. 14th, 2012 at 4:40 am
I don’t understand why this asshole is still walking around free, after the crap he pulled. Isn’t the DOJ supposed to protect voters from this kind of crap? These people are traitors to the American way life and if what they are pulling is not already illegal, it should be done so immediately, with mandatory prison sentences. These morons would think twice if they thought they were going to spend time in prison if they were caught, no matter who was in office.It might also give them a reason to re-think their views on rape.
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