I started out with this: I wanted to see how many negatives Muslim-baiter Pamela Geller could work into an article on World Net Daily. Okay, I admit it! It was a slow Sunday night!
Even when compared to 2012′s other conservative ranters and spewers, a sour-faced lot if there ever was one, Muslim-baiter (is it only a happy coincidence that if you say Muslim-baiter over and over again it sounds like “masturbator”?) Pamela Geller stands out.
For example, she refers to the United Nations General Assembly as “That collective negation of humanity” (humanity being, for Geller, that happy condition which applies when everybody hates Islam).
And in a surprisingly mild rebuke, she refers to “four years of Obama’s thinly veiled hostility toward Israel.”
Wow, Palmela Geller, meek and mild! (don’t worry, she goes for the nut-shot later, when she’s really got her Muslim-baiting lather up).
She isn’t happy with 2012 (what conservative is?); she likes 1922 much better, not because as years go, it rolls off the tongue, but because the feckless League of Nations “voted unanimously in 1922 in favor of the idea that “recognition has been given to the historical connection of the Jewish people with Palestine and to the grounds for reconstituting their national home in that country.”
Great. Yippee.
What she fails to note is that the League of Nations did not establish a Jewish state in Palestine. It did establish a British mandate in Palestine, rather than that of one of the other front-runners, the French and the Papacy.
Nor does Geller mention the preamble to the 1922 Mandate for Palestine:
Whereas the Principal Allied Powers have also agreed that the Mandatory should be responsible for putting into effect the declaration originally made on November 2nd, 1917, by the Government of His Britannic Majesty, and adopted by the said Powers, in favour of the establishment in Palestine of a national home for the Jewish people, it being clearly understood that nothing should be done which might prejudice the civil and religious rights of existing non-Jewish communities in Palestine, or the rights and political status enjoyed by Jews in any other country.
The “civil and religious rights of existing non-Jewish communities in Palestine” are not congenial to her argument, after all.
I will also leave out the historical issues with the name Palestine. I won’t mention at all that Palestine is the Greek and Roman name for the region and that the name derives not from any Jewish state in the Bible (Judah or Israel) but from the very Gentile and un-Jewish Peleset, a tribe numbered among the so-called “Sea Peoples” who invaded Egypt at the end of the Bronze Age. You might also know these folks as the Peleshet, or, more commonly, the Philistines.
You know, the arch-enemies of the Jews in the Old Testaments (well, okay, along with those pesky Super-Gentiles, the Canaanites).
Yeah…Palestine is NOT named for the Jewish people. You can relate a lot more to the name of Palestine than simply Jews. There were other people too – other ethnicities, other religions. Jewish civilization did not extend to the Mediterranean in ancient times. That is a fairly modern development. The coast was the domain of Pagans – Philistines, Phoenicians, Greeks.
As I’ve noted here before, Gaza was a very strong Pagan city. One of the last holdouts, in fact, against the brutal tyranny of encroaching Christianity in Late Antiquity. You can say, quite factually, that there is nothing Jewish about Gaza.
Or, you could put it more colloquially, and say that Israel never lost anything in Gaza.
In other words, not everybody in the region became Jewish. There were many Pagans from long before any Jewish state. Some later became Christians at the point of a sword. Some later became Muslims to avoid paying the tax on non-Muslims. Pagans quickly learned that Islam killed you as dead as Christianity, but with far greater efficiency. But not everybody became Muslim ether; their remained Jews and Christians and even a few Pagans.
I won’t mention any of that.
I also won’t mention that it was the much-maligned United Nations that actually established the state of Israel after World War II. Not the League of Nations, which was about as effective as the Articles of Confederation.
The idea with the UN, after all, was to have an organization that could actually effect change on a global scale and to mitigate against another World War. Geller likes that the UN established Israel. She isn’t so happy they also want to establish a state for those “Others” who aren’t Jewish: Palestine.
She is so disappointed by the changes in the UN since 1945 that she says of 2012, “The modern era of the savage, that’s where civilization is in 2012.”
Boy, I think Pamela needs to pick up a history book. Or a dictionary. “Savage” is not a synonym for “something you don’t like.”
Geller quotes the ever-quotable fellow Muslim-baiter John Bolton, who hates the UN every bit as much as Geller, as saying that the whole mess in the Land of the Philistines is “an ongoing failure in the Obama administration to take this issue seriously.”
Geller says that instead of working with the United States, the United Nations has the audacity to work with the OIC (The Organization of Islamic Cooperation), which she defines as “56 Muslim countries plus the Muslim-occupied areas of Israel that are known as the “Palestinian” territories” but which the OIC defines as “the collective voice of the Muslim world and ensuring to safeguard and protect the interests of the Muslim world in the spirit of promoting international peace and harmony among various people of the world.”
We all like to appeal to people smarter or better informed than us, or to specialists in their fields, to shore up our arguments. But Geller falls into a typical Republican trap here, calling to her side “The world-renowned scholar Bat Ye’or.”
If you go to Wikipedia you will see Bat Ye’or described as, “an Egyptian-born British Jewish writer, political commentator and conspiracy theorist who writes about the history of Middle Eastern Christian and Jewish dhimmis living under Islamic governments.”
Because conspiracy theorists are specialists in their fields. The problem is, conspiracy theories are….how shall I put this without being indelicate?…Conspiracy theories.
If anybody hates Islam more than Pamela Geller, it is perhaps conspiracy theorist Bat Ye’or, who is known for having made popular a term, dhimmitude, which even a noted Jewish scholar has called Islamophobic. And “Eurabia” an idea which actual scholars dismiss as hooey,
And if long citations from a noted conspiracy theorist form the backbone of Pamela Geller’s article, than Pamela Geller’s article must, itself, be considered an example of conspiracy theory.
Let’s face it: Geller doesn’t cite any actual world-renowned scholar; conspiracy theories are more congenial to the doyen of Atlas Shrugs; or advance anything resembling a cogent argument, as would be expected in any institute of higher learning.
Instead, Geller presses Bat Ye’or’s conspiracy theories. Bat Ye’or, who has found her proper home on the pages of Loonwatch.com rather than between the covers of peer-reviewed scholarly journals.
Bat Ye’or adds: “The caliphate is alive and growing within Europe. … It has advanced through the denial of dangers and the obfuscating of history. It has moved forward on gilded carpets in the corridors of dialogue, the network of the Alliances and partnerships, in the corruption of its leaders, intellectuals and NGOs, particularly at the United Nations.”
So what we have here is Pamela Geller, who thinks Islam is a “perennially barbaric, parasitic and oppressive religion” calling on the support of the Muslim-baiter who actually said those words, in order to prove that Islam is a “perennially barbaric, parasitic and oppressive religion”
I won’t mention any comparison with the Nazis, who thought the Jews were parasitic. I won’t mention that at all. Even some progressives bridle at apt historical comparisons, assuming somehow that unwholesome facts cheapen an argument.
Oh, but I promised you a nut-shot, and I shall deliver. Geller says,
Israel must be allowed to defend itself. If Barack Obama forces another ill-advised Muslim Brotherhood-devised truce upon the Israelis, the consequences could be disastrous not just for Israel, but for the free world in general.
The poison fruit of Obama’s anti-freedom foreign policy failures just keeps getting more rancid.
So to recap: 2012 sucks, the UN General Assembly is a collective negation of humanity…the world caliphate looms… and Obama’s foreign policy is rancid.
And Obama made Israel’s Iron Dome possible. But Pamela Geller won’t mention that. She won’t mention that at all.
And why would she? It’s not a conspiracy theory.






RX7
Dec. 3rd, 2012 at 12:20 pm
As long as there are Jews who spread bigotry against Muslims, and Muslims who spread old-school Christian lies and Nazi-esque hatred against the Jews, there won’t be any peace in the region.
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A Walkaway
Dec. 3rd, 2012 at 12:47 pm
That, and the damned “Good Christians” (like her) who mistreat the other two “Abrahamic” faiths and refuse to recognize their humanity and right to exist and be free.
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M
Dec. 7th, 2012 at 5:08 pm
A Walkaway–FYI: There are *four* Abrahamic religions–Judaism, Christianity, Islam, and Bahaism. Some Muslims don’t like Bahaism too much because they consider it heretical and because the religion is headquartered in Israel (in Haifa, near where Bahaism’s Iranian-born founder Bahaullah died in the 19th century). Some Christians consider Bahaism illegitimate because of their beliefs, which are generally progressive aside from a certain degree of homophobia, and because they recognize other prophets besides Jesus. And some confuse it with Islam and so give Baha’is pretty much the same crap they give Muslims. (Bahaullah was originally a Shiite Muslim, but calling Bahaism a sect of Islam is like calling Christianity a sect of Judaism.) Usually, though, Bahaism gets ignored.
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Michael
Dec. 3rd, 2012 at 12:29 pm
When Israel stops building settlements in war siezed territories, ill give a hoot about palestinian militants firing rockets at them. Israel is a professional hypocrit and the only reason common american citizens belive israel is the innocent victim is their gross lack of understanding of history, lack of awareness of foreign affairs that arent spoonfed to them from easy to digest and effortlessly attainable tv media sources, and an overall lack of any desire to question the group mentality for fear of being labelled an antisemite or terrorist sympathiser by the majority of americans who sadly embrace witch hunt style attacks upon any free thinking detractor of the current social meme. Palestine deserves a homeland recognized internationally and the US needs to stop pandering to the Israelis warmongering, self righteous, self entitled mentality.
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Sally
Dec. 3rd, 2012 at 1:01 pm
And I bet even Geller is unaware that Israel receives more of our foreign aid than any other nation..and they use it for weapons. Because they are so picked upon by others, without any cause at all. Golly, sounds like the GOP.
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Johnee
Dec. 3rd, 2012 at 12:46 pm
Ahh, such evil ugly things from such a pretty package. This seems to be a trend among conservatives: Laura Ingraham, Laurie Dhue, Megan Kelly, Pam Geller, what’s her brunette face at CNN, etc.
Offer up cheesecake poster girls to put a pretty face on the B.S.
To clarify, as a non-believer I don’t have any problem with vehemently criticizing religious belief itself. The distinction is when it is used as a tool to broad brush and demonize entire cultures, scapegoat and evoke “fear of the other”, and hold up one faith as being far morally superior to another (i.e. Christianity good, Islam baaad).
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mjh
Dec. 3rd, 2012 at 3:48 pm
Ahh, such evil ugly things from such a pretty package. This seems to be a trend among conservatives: Laura Ingraham, Laurie Dhue, Megan Kelly, Pam Geller, what’s her brunette face at CNN, etc.
Offer up cheesecake poster girls to put a pretty face on the B.S.
Don’t forget Michelle Malkin; it seems Pammy here is bucking to take away Ms. Maglalang’s title of “Most Attractive Yet Foul-Tempered Right Wing Harpy” . . .
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Johnee
Dec. 3rd, 2012 at 4:21 pm
Yeah, I would have said Ann Coulter 10 years ago. But you can’t remain that horribly skinny into your 50′s and still look good. Someone get Annie a Kit Kat bar and a sammich!
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Johnee
Dec. 3rd, 2012 at 10:50 pm
WTF? Who’s the Pam Geller fan giving us all the down votes?
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Tim From LA
Dec. 3rd, 2012 at 1:01 pm
Pamela Geller is the publisher of AtlasShrugs.com and the author of the WND Books title “Stop the Islamization of America: A Practical Guide to the Resistance.”
Funny thing, as a writer for this blog, I wonder what Geller is doing writing for WND? JEromi Corsi has said time and time again that he has no issues with Muslims, he supports any peace between Iran and Israel and is supportive of unions as his relatives are union members, and support collective bargaining. (that’s the nice side)
His hypocritical side:
World Net Daily Writers Sue Esquire For $120 Million Over Birther Parody
http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2011/06/world_net_daily_writers_sue_esquire_for_120_million_over_birther_parody.php
It might be a week late, but World Net Daily editor Joseph Farah and author Jerome Corsi have finally made good on their threats and sued Esquire for a satirical article that claimed that they were no longer members of the so-called ‘birther’ movement.
The suit against Hearst Corp., Esquire and writer Mark Warren seeks $100 million in compensatory damages and $20 million in punitive damages plus legal costs.
Well so much for the conservative’s tort reform…and I have no love for Hearst…Google Yellow Journalism
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mjh
Dec. 3rd, 2012 at 4:04 pm
Pamela Geller is the publisher of AtlasShrugs.com and the author of the WND Books title “Stop the Islamization of America: A Practical Guide to the Resistance.”
The “Islamization of America”?
The Muslim population of America (as of 2011) was 2.11% of the total US population:
http://www.muslimpopulation.com/America/
I don’t think Pammy has much to worry about — then again, basic math has never been the wingnuts’ strong suit . . .
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Yogi29073
Dec. 3rd, 2012 at 6:17 pm
Ahh, I thought this one had already been settled, along the lines of “freedom of speech” or something along those lines….OH, WAIT A MIN, we’re talking about WND, where only they speak the truth, and everyone else is full of, how shall I say it, facts that fly in the face of the manor that is spit out by WND. Wonder when WND is going to get around to suing this blog…HMMMM????
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Reynardine
Dec. 3rd, 2012 at 1:22 pm
On Loonwatch, they report that in New York City, a seventy-two-year-old man was accosted by two or three young thugs who demanded, “Are you Hindu or Muslim?” When he replied that he was Muslim, they beat him into critical condition. He survived, but an individual that age can rarely make a full recovery, and his life span may have been substantially foreshortened by this attack.
I remarked that they might next exhibit such bravery against six-year-old children and paraplegics, and that I hesitated to add pregnant women to the list, because that was too real a possibility. Another commenter, who signs as Zakariyah Ali Sher, said it has already been happening. After the Murrah Building bombing, Steve Emerson evidently gave his “expert” opinion that Muslims had done it, and a Muslim woman was beaten into a miscarriage. Another pregnant Muslim woman was murdered in a German courtroom, and it is frequent for them to be harassed and threatened on the streets. According to Sher, some have been raped, with the additional malicious motive of inducing miscarriage, and a T-shirt was in circulation showing a pregnant Muslim woman with the infamous crosshairs on her belly. This is the kind of thing that the likes of Geller stir up, and then they smirk behind their hands and say, “Oh, nothing!” No, butter wouldn’t melt in their mouths, though God knows what else has.
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Anomaly100
Dec. 3rd, 2012 at 1:33 pm
“Okay, I admit it! It was a slow Sunday night!”
Don’t worry Hraf. I troll WND too. Admitting that we have a problem is the first step:-)
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Hrafnkell Haraldsson
Dec. 3rd, 2012 at 2:29 pm
Thanks, Anomaly. It’s nice to know I’m not the only masochist around :)
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Mary
Dec. 3rd, 2012 at 2:09 pm
She is a ugly hate filled troll who spends her days spewing hate and slime One day hopefully she will be burning in hell.
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TigerLily
Dec. 3rd, 2012 at 2:11 pm
All these people who claim to be worshipers of a God ..all Gods of which they say condones hate killing raping women killing women letting them die and just wanting to destroy each other over a God. Some God. Makes absolutely no sense to me. WTH..why can’t these people just accept the current times..not biblical TIMES since it has nothing to do with today accept worship. These people just love hating and hurting others is all I see. The level of hate is beyond understanding. I really wish they would think how it would feel if the Palestinians were doing to their children and people wqhat the Isralites are doing in the name of their so called God.
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SinghX
Dec. 4th, 2012 at 6:56 am
But, but…you don’t understand why hate is so important to these worshipers of the desert religions! Allow me to ass’plain the theology AND the existence of our All-Meri’kan girl, Miss USA Apple Pie on the outside, Shit sandwich on the inside, aka, Pam Geller.
Our problems as humans cannot be solved by being “brother and sister” to one another. No! Our lives are “controlled” by demons and angels, things we can’t see but, “we” know exist.
All of our actions are controlled by forces “outside” of our reality/conscious realm and therefore the idea that we as human beings can do something about hate, killing, rape is absurd. Who are “we” to go around interfering with the sky-god’s plan? Huh?
The sky-gods demons and angels take care of everything for us…everything, all day long! The sky-god provides humans with “hate” so that we can keep demons away from our person…plus the fact that demons kill angels, or try to anyway…no wait every time there’s an abortion, an angel dies…I digress…
Pam Geller “looks” like and angel, therefore…
Oh, OK, I’ll spell this our because this is like physics to most secular atheist; she’s is one of the sky-gods chosen ones! She’s teaches people about hate so that the demons can’t win!
You’re welcome!
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Sandra
Dec. 4th, 2012 at 7:44 pm
Tiger Lilly, I think they use God as an excuse or rather a pawn to spew their hate and vitrol, please don’t blame it on God. Jesus said many will come claiming they are He and that we must walk away and not listen to them. As long as they proclaim christianity and faith, people will listen to them unfortunately, without God in their message of hate, most would ignore them.
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Nancy
Dec. 3rd, 2012 at 3:09 pm
Lots of anti Israel crap on here. I also suggest the author do some more reading on Israel!
Hope Ms. Jones is feeling better soon as I will not be reading anything from this author again. Truth be told, doesn’t matter what the topic is, I dislike the writing!
Sarah, come back!
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TStMauro
Dec. 3rd, 2012 at 3:18 pm
I thought she was Jewish and that was the reason behind her rabid hatred of all things Muslem.
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Reynardine
Dec. 3rd, 2012 at 3:56 pm
That is not the reason. Regardless of her family religious affiliations or the (various) ones of her cohorts, they all share a Randian right-wingism that seeks to persecute everything they see as “weak”, including women, children, the poor, and anyone they see as a powerless outlander. Believe me, if the Muslim population of this country were even marginally as dangerous as they pretend it is, they’d be picking on someone else.
And now, how do you do…
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Fredric Fechter
Dec. 3rd, 2012 at 3:21 pm
In my near 80 old years, have come to understand the underlying problem in all religions is in the belief system’s they incorporate; for anyone can believe what is not true. Also on the flip side of ‘believing’ in our world of duality, lies ‘doubt’.
We understand only what is true and erase’s all doubt. As Carl Jungwas once asked if he belived in God; he replied, ” I don’t have to believe, I know”
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RABBIT C OHARE
Dec. 3rd, 2012 at 3:22 pm
anyone who hates his fellow man for what ever reason is hell bound!
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Yogi29073
Dec. 3rd, 2012 at 6:31 pm
What’s all the fuss about Hraf, the world is going to end 12/21/12, so why get all in a bother. Oh, wait a minuet, that’s from a “pagan” calendar, sooo, maybe there is going to be a 12/22/12 after all, and then maybe a Christmas (don’t tell my mother I said Christmas, me being a Jew and all that).
I try and read WND, but by the second or third outrageous lie, I have to go back to reality and read the NY Times, this blog, Right Wing Watch and Media Matters, to name a few, to sooth my aching mind from the stupidity, bigoted, venomous hate speech and out right lies vomiting froth from that maggot infested rag! (My wife just looked over my shoulder and said: “Why don’t ya tell him what ya REALLY THINK!).
Guess I’ll go back to reading TMZ, now that’s a blog worth reading, has all sorts of truth in it.
Can I go to my room now??? (As the Romulans would say, Geller is a waste of human skin)!
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Reynardine
Dec. 3rd, 2012 at 9:36 pm
To the tune from “Bridge on the River Kwai,” otherwise known as “Hitler Has Only Got One Ball”:
Spencer
Has got some big brass balls
Wilders’
Are meat, but they are small
Anders Behring
Has one ball bearing
And Geller’s
Not a feller
At all.
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nara
Dec. 4th, 2012 at 3:05 am
im an arab muslim woman and i was always shocked with what pamela geller posts..i tried to comment on her posts explianing that islam is not as she thinks ,but she either doesnt post my comment or starts attacking me ..and whenever they cannot reply they kept saying ” go home to your counry ” but im not living in america im jordan and i dont wanna live in your country im just defendnig my religion .im a normal mother i love my christian friends and raise my kids to respect everyone.. because this is what islam says ..in islam we are supopose treat other religions with kindness and respect and ever used the word “ber” to treat them which is the same word used to descirbe how to treat our parents with means utmost respect..i remember she posted a story about a muslim who “butchered” his wife and she explained how this is part of being “religous” but the man was alchoholic”which is forbinden in islam ” and he was a a non practicing muslim .that means muslim just by title.. but Geller kept attaching whatever happens wrong to islam …i stopped commenting on her posts because its useless.
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mjh
Dec. 4th, 2012 at 4:22 am
I admire your effort in trying to respond to Geller.
Unfortunately, extreme wingnuts such as her will resist any and all attempts to inject facts that run counter to their preconceived worldview . . .
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Shiva (Moderator)
Dec. 4th, 2012 at 8:33 am
Unfortunately Christianity and Islam have the same problem. They have complete idiot’s that will do anything to make their religion look bad. I doubt there is much difference between the everyday Muslim and the everyday Christian. But there are those who try to achieve superiority using their religion
But let’s also remember that there are some Muslim countries who have laws that prevent people from even bringing the bible into the country. Islam is not very welcoming to other people. And then again we have Gellar who doesnt welcome anyone of any faith other than her own
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Johnee
Dec. 4th, 2012 at 11:07 am
Hello nara. My family comes from a small town just outside of Damascus, Syria. I have seen and experienced the complete spectrum of both Christianity and Islam.
A lot of what you are saying echos the sentiments of some of the Christians that post here; they want to distinguish themselves from the religious right fundamentalists here in the U.S. and what they see as true Christianity.
Unfortunately, as Shiva eluded to, Islamic extremists see themselves as “true” Muslims while the rest of you are not (true Muslims). You say “this is not what Islam says”…but the extremists disagree with you; this is exactly the same problem mainstream Christians have with the religious right in the America. There is a minority telling the majority what to do, and that they are not “true” Christians or Muslims.
Unfortunately, fundamentalist extremists are goal driven zealots; it kind of goes with the territory. So, while these idiots may not represent the average everyday Muslim or Christian they are the ones that pursue (and many times attain) power and control.
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Shiva (Moderator)
Dec. 4th, 2012 at 11:12 am
It is a pity that places with a name of Damascus, that elicits mystique and storys that go back further in time than any of our historys do, is plagued by hate and despair at this time of earths history
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mjh
Dec. 4th, 2012 at 1:53 pm
There is a minority telling the majority what to do, and that they are not “true” Christians or Muslims.
The minority are the ones screaming the loudest; they think having a megaphone makes them right, due to everyone paying attention to them . . .
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Johnee
Dec. 4th, 2012 at 2:32 pm
Correct. And, as I stated, since they are zealots they are the ones that want to force others to believe the way they do by violence and/or political power.
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