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Rand Paul Lies To African Americans By Claiming He Never Opposed the Civil Rights Act
Sending Rand Paul to speak at Howard University was a disaster waiting to happen. First Paul tried (again) to deny that he ever opposed the Civil Rights Act.
Mother Jones reports:
“I’ve never been against the Civil Rights Act, ever,” Paul told a questioner, following what was the first speech by a Republican legislator at the historically black university in decades. “This was on tape,” the questioner responded.
Oops, in fact it’s caught on tape a few times, beginning with his comments during an interview with the Louisville Courier-Journal in May, 2010.
In fact, here’s the video. (courtesy of Think Progress):
Transcript (courtesy of Mother Jones)
PAUL: I like the Civil Rights Act in the sense that it ended discrimination in all public domains, and I’m all in favor of that.
INTERVIEWER: But?
PAUL: You had to ask me the “but.” I don’t like the idea of telling private business owners—I abhor racism. I think it’s a bad business decision to exclude anybody from your restaurant—but, at the same time, I do believe in private ownership. But I absolutely think there should be no discrimination in anything that gets any public funding, and that’s most of what I think the Civil Rights Act was about in my mind.
INTERVIEWER: But under your philosophy, it would be okay for Dr. King not to be served at the counter at Woolworths?
PAUL: I would not go to that Woolworths, and I would stand up in my community and say that it is abhorrent, um, but, the hard part—and this is the hard part about believing in freedom—is, if you believe in the First Amendment, for example—you have to, for example, most good defenders of the First Amendment will believe in abhorrent groups standing up and saying awful things and uh, we’re here at the bastion of newspaperdom, I’m sure you believe in the First Amendment so you understand that people can say bad things. It’s the same way with other behaviors. In a free society, we will tolerate boorish people, who have abhorrent behavior, but if we’re civilized people, we publicly criticize that, and don’t belong to those groups, or don’t associate with those people.
This alone discredits Paul’s claim that he “never” opposed the Civil Rights Act. Even the classic GOP “walkback” that he misspoke or chose his words badly during one isolated interview won’t work since Paul repeated essentially the same views during an interview with Rachel Maddow, also in May 2010.
“ I’m not in favor of any discrimination of any form. I would never belong to any club that excluded anybody for race. We still do have private clubs in America that can discriminate based on race.
“But I think what’s important about this debate is not written into any specific “gotcha” on this, but asking the question: what about freedom of speech? Should we limit speech from people we find abhorrent? Should we limit racists from speaking? I don’t want to be associated with those people, but I also don’t want to limit their speech in any way in the sense that we tolerate boorish and uncivilized behavior because that’s one of the things freedom requires is that we allow people to be boorish and uncivilized, but that doesn’t mean we approve of it. I think the problem with this debate is by getting muddled down into it, the implication is somehow that I would approve of any racism or discrimination, and I don’t in any form or fashion.”
He also expressed the same views on the Civil Rights Act during third interview during that time period, this time with NPR
Paul’s version of “outreach” went from bad to worse when he told Julian Lewis, a former White House intern under President Obama, that questioning the GOP’s vote suppression laws in 2012 was demeaning to the Civil Rights Movement.
Here’s the exchange, according to The Raw Story:
Lewis: “The Republican Party has been using their state legislators and their governments to prevent African-Americans from voting, because they didn’t want to re-elect President Obama. So I’m asking you, how can we believe what you’re saying in regards to voting rights when we honestly feel, based on our intellectual ability to gauge whether you can connect with us or not, how can you say that, sir?”
Paul: “I think if you liken using a drivers’ license to literacy tests, you demean the horror of what happened in the ’40s and ’50s, maybe probably from 1910 all the way through the 1960s in the South, It was horrific. Nobody is in favor of that. No Republican is in favor of that. But showing your drivers’ license to have an honest election, I think, is not unreasonable. And I think that’s the main thing Republicans have been for.”
Really? So when Doug Priesse said: “I guess I really actually feel we shouldn’t contort the voting process to accommodate the urban — read African-American — voter-turnout machine,” that was in the name of having an “honest election.”
How about the fact that suppressing the black vote was part of the Florida GOP’s “victory strategy”
If anyone is in a position to compare the GOP’s tactics of today with the days before the Civil Rights Act and the Voting Rights act, it would be Rep. John Lewis.
“Today it is unbelievable that there are Republican officials still trying to stop some people from voting,” Lewis said. “They are changing the rules, cutting polling hours and imposing requirements intended to suppress the vote. The Republican leader in the Pennsylvania House even bragged that his state’s new voter ID law is ‘gonna allow Gov. Romney to win the state.’ “That’s not right, that’s not fair and that is not just.
Here is video of Lewis’s remarks in their entirety (courtesy of Talking Points Memo):
Today’s GOP effort to suppress the vote is well known, by virtue of admissions by some Republican politicians, court rulings that struck down many such laws and studies proving the results of those laws that survived.
We also know that people on the right, view laws that protect the civil rights of people most likely to face discrimination as favoritism (vs. the favoritism that comes with the white privilege that continues to rule).
In particular, we know a certain Supreme Court Justice believes that the Voting Rights Act is about “racial entitlement” in an allegedly post-racial America. The only people who demean the civil rights movement are the Republicans who have the unmitigated gall to pass laws that they know will suppress votes by racial minorities while claiming it’s about keeping elections honest.
There’s nothing honest about passing laws to suppress votes by minorities and using voter intimidation to intimidate them. Moreover, that demeans the Civil Rights movement, along with the people who fought and died for their vote. It demeans the people who waited in line for several hours because Republicans passed laws to reduce voting hours and days, knowing full well, it would create longer lines and with that discourage people from voting. It wasn’t by coincidence that the people who waited the longest were racial minorities.
It also demeans the rest of us who are disgusted by the racism that is so obviously inherent in the Republican Party. We see it in the racial slurs Republican politicians continue to use. We see it in the right wing media that continues to perpetuate the myth that President Obama won re-election because he’s black. We saw it in some of the GOP’s candidates during the 2012 primaries. We also see it in droves with the persistent effort to deny that Barack Obama is an American citizen by the “birthers” . In the midst of all this, denying the GOP’s racism is at the very least cognitive dissonance.
It’s meaningless to suggest that Republicans like Rand Paul should be ashamed of themselves, because they know no shame. That has been evident in their rhetoric, their policies and their denials. All Rand Paul achieved during his remarks at Howard University was to confirm what we already knew.
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Sally
Apr. 11th, 2013 at 8:59 am
When Rachel asked him outright if he would have voted against the Civil Rights Act, he said that he would have. Period. The man lies. But then, I think lying is so engrained in the GOP that they don’t even know what is true any more. They have no clue what this country is about. They are grasping at straws trying to hold onto the white rich male majority, and it is slipping away..not fast enough, but it is going. And they are desperate and angry and throwing tantrums when they are caught telling lies. Poor Rand. And he thought CPAC anointed him President-to-be last month too.
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Churchlady320
Apr. 11th, 2013 at 9:00 am
The Constitution provides a wide range of guaranteed human rights. It offers NO guarantee whatsoever to property rights. There are two references to property with respect to its appropriation in the 4th and 5th amendments, but no affirmation that you have the RIGHT to have, use, dispose of, trade, or gain property at all in the first place. That is a privilege.
The Civil Rights Act also understands the term “public” to include places of business that use our social goods – sewer, water, roads, etc. You do NOT have the right as a business person to exclude those who help pay for the upkeep of the infrastructure supporting your business.
Move on, Rand. You have no Constitutional basis for your assertions.
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nabsentia23
Apr. 11th, 2013 at 1:51 pm
Here’s another issue, Churchlady.
Segregation relied on social customs as well as laws. These laws and social customs were followed even when private businesses lost money. So, Paul’s belief in the “free market” sorting all of this out is BS. That would assume that actors are always rational when it comes to money and commerce. This is simply not true. If it were, then the 2008 economic crash would have never happened.
And what happens when the laws and social customs are so pervasive that those discriminated against can’t even find jobs (forgot about finding a lunch counter to sit at)? Well, this actually did happen. Blacks left the South in droves to find work in the North because of this. My family was among those in this exodus. Once again, Paul’s faith in the rationality of the “free market” is wrong. But, this time, it’s been proven by history.
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djchefron(Moderator)
Apr. 11th, 2013 at 9:17 am
This is ranbos problem right here.In his remarks he said the reason that blacks dont vote republican is because they dont know that Abraham Lincoln was a republican and that it was the democrats imposed jim crow laws.
HELLO!! He was talking to some of the best and brightest at one of the top universities in the country and basically called them ignorant.
Right there is all you need to know about his feeling towards people of color.No matter who you are because you’re black you’re stupid .No wonder they act with contempt for the President.But we’re not racist.Give me a break
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kat from ky
Apr. 11th, 2013 at 9:31 am
I am so embarassed to live in Kentucky. We not only have Rand Paul, but McConnell as well. Oh and now the state legislature passed the religion amendment and a few years back no civil unions for gays and lesbians. I keep waking up and double-checking the calendar. It “says” it is 2013, it just seems like 1813!
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Shiva
Apr. 11th, 2013 at 9:41 am
I understand what Paul was saying. He is saying that the free-market should have the right to choose whether or not prejudiced white businesses should be able to block blacks from entering their business.
If that were the case, is there enough racism left in America that this type of situation would only grow and not disappear? I think there is. I think there are a multitude of places in the South where businesses would grow bigger and bigger if they did not allow blacks to enter. And quite frankly I think that would put us light-years behind the rest of the world.
There are some cases where we have to live by our Constitution and the government does have to step in and say you’re not going to do this. It’s a very sad thing that in 2013 the American society has to be drug kicking and screaming down the path to some type of moral advancement.
I’m sorry Mr. Paul, you lose
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Sherlock
Apr. 11th, 2013 at 3:41 pm
The Terrorpublicans want to take us all back to 1850.
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sandrich
Apr. 11th, 2013 at 9:50 am
We are able to easily tell when Rand Paul, or any of his GOP/NRA minions are lying – it’s anytime that their lips are moving. In face, we have them at a huge disadvantage – we are listening when they are talking. Revisionist history is only the beginning of their pathetic attempts to change what they did or said into what would play better to those unaware of the truth, they appear to be pathological liars as well in that they actually come to believe their own lies as being the truth. This is a common trait of most politicians today, and they must not be allowed to get away with this kind of foolishness; call them out and vote them out, deny them the opportunity to live their lie.
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nabsentia23
Apr. 11th, 2013 at 2:02 pm
Rand is a lot dumber than I thought. He actually had the audacity to go to Howard University and deny his stance on Civil Rights? He actually thinks we are stupid?
This actually reminds me of Lee Atwater trying to get on Howard University’s board back in the late ’80s. He assumed that the black students there were too dumb to know that he was responsible for the notorious “Willie Horton” campaign ad.
Here’s something the Republican Party of 2013 needs to understand. Black people are not stupid. Even the low information voters and apathetic among us know that since the late ’60s, the GOP can’t be trusted.
So, Rand, get that through your thick head. You are on the record as to being opposed to the Civil Rights Acts and then you are going to go to a predominately black university and try to deny it? Not even your father would be this stupid!
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majii
Apr. 11th, 2013 at 10:30 pm
Their major problem seems to be, nabsentia23, is that they actually believe the BS that inhabits their RW echo chamber. TPM had a post up today that addresses this issue. Rand Paul, other GOP politicians, and their supporters have an entirely different view of us and that what they believe about us is what all Americans think about us. Their problems are made evident when they meet us and we let them know pretty darn quickly that what they think about us is not who we are. Rand Paul went to one of the top black colleges to try selling GOP BS, and it failed because the students were way smarter than he thought they’d be.
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Just A Dumb Fireman
Apr. 13th, 2013 at 8:45 pm
“Not even your father would be this stupid!”
HAAAAA!!!!!! Double zinggg!!!!
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Sherlock
Apr. 11th, 2013 at 3:31 pm
Howdy Doody strikes again. This little fella is so darn cute you begin to question the fact that he is a Nazi prick. He only lies when his lips are moving. I guess it is ok to allow blacks in the US Post office but not in McDonalds. What a total scumbag.
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TomCat
Apr. 12th, 2013 at 7:49 am
Idiot, son of Idiot, Named after Idiot, was in rare form.
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