Rep. Adam Schiff (D-CA) confirmed during an interview on ABC’s This Week that there is evidence that the Trump campaign colluded with Russia and that the President obstructed justice.
— ABC News Politics (@ABCPolitics) June 18, 2017
Transcript via ABC’s This Week:
RADDATZ: Well, you said recently you thought there was evidence of collusion. What kind of evidence have you seen? What can you tell us?
SCHIFF: Well, I think there is evidence. I can’t go into the particulars of our closed investigation. But I also think there is also evidence of obstruction. But in both cases, I would say, whether there is some evidence doesn’t mean there is proof beyond a reasonable doubt.
The same people that say that there’s no evidence of collusion say there’s no evidence of obstruction. And that the president, indeed, cannot commit obstruction. I don’t buy that. If you look at James Comey’s testimony and we were trying this in a court of law, no judge would exclude that. That would all be relevant evidence as to potential obstruction.
And the fact that the president can fire someone for good cause, or can fire someone with no cause, doesn’t mean that he can fire someone for malicious cause. The fact that an employer can terminate an employee at will doesn’t mean that he can fire an employee because the employee rejected his sexual advances. So I —
Rep. Schiff stated that he is not prepared to call it the kind of proof that could be taken to a jury, but it is the sort of evidence that merits deeper investigation. The problem for Trump is that the legal standards for collusion and obstruction of justice don’t apply to a political proceeding like impeachment.
Bill Clinton was impeached for much less than the legal standard in the House.
Schiff has gradually moved his description of the investigation to indicate that the committee is seeing evidence that Trump’s campaign colluded with Russia and that the President is obstructing justice. These are small statements that equal big developments. Time is not on the side of Donald Trump, and the more investigators dig, the more they appear to be uncovering about Trump and Russia.