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A Debt Ceiling Deal Where No One Wins And The American People Lose
By: Guest ContributorJul. 31st, 2011more from Guest Contributor
The most striking element of the debt ceiling deal announced by President Obama is that there are no winners, and the biggest losers are the American people.
Here is the video from MSNBC:
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The big sell point for Obama was possibility of increasing revenue by raising taxes on the wealthy and closing corporate loopholes in the second part of the agreement,
Now I have said from the beginning that the ultimate solution to our deficit problem must be balance. Despite what some Republicans have argued I believe that we have to ask the wealthiest Americans and biggest corporations to pay their fair share by giving up tax breaks and special deductions. Despite what some in my own party have argued I believe we need to make some modest adjustments to programs like Medicare to ensure that they are still around for future generations.
That’s why the second part of this agreement is so important. It establishes a bi-partisan committee of Congress to report back by November with a proposal to further reduce the deficit which will then be put before the entire Congress for an up or down vote. In this stage, everything will be on the table. To hold us all accountable for making these reforms, tough cuts that both parties would find objectionable would automatically go into effect if we don’t act, and over these next few months I’ll continue to make a detailed case to these lawmakers about why I believe a balanced approach is best to finish the job.
Now, is the deal I would have preferred? No, I believe that we could have made the tough choices required on entitlement reform and tax reform right now rather than through a special congressional committee process, but this compromise does make a serious down payment on the deficit reduction we need, and gives each party a strong incentive to get a balanced plan done before the end of the year. Most importantly it will allow us to avoid default and end the crisis that Washington imposed on the rest of America. It ensures also that will not face this same crisis in six months, eight months or twelve months, and it will begin to lift the cloud of debt and the cloud of uncertainty that hangs over our economy.
Obama thanked the American people for getting a deal done, “Most of all I want to thank the American people. It’s been your voices, your letters, your emails, your tweets that have compelled Washington to act in the final days, and the American people’s voice is a very powerful thing.”
This deal has a loss in it for everyone. Obama loses because he got no immediate revenue increase. Republicans lose because Obama got the extension he wanted through the 2012 election, the GOP got zero entitlement cuts, the cuts that they will have to vote yes on will be mostly paper illusions, and they got stuck with facing possible cuts to defense spending if they don’t act. Congressional Democrats lost because in the second part of the plan entitlements are on the table.
Looking towards 2012, Obama now gets to run for reelection by claiming that he has cut $2.4 trillion off of the national debt. The idea that he is tax and spend Obama will be a tough sell for the GOP nominee next fall.
Republicans won because they managed to get Democrats and even progressive activists who consider themselves the watchdogs of the Democratic Party to buy into the nonsensical premise that the debt ceiling and debt reduction are related and got them to do something that was previously unprecedented. They for no rational reason have now set the precedent that debt ceiling increases must be tied to spending cuts. However, you can look for this new interpretation of conditional debt ceiling raises to fall by the wayside as soon as the government returns to one party control.
The biggest losers in this whole debacle are the American people. As Paul Krugman pointed out today, this deal is likely to increase unemployment and cause more people to become permanently unemployed.
No matter how both the right and left try to sell it over the next few days, this is a bad deal for the American people. The result of the Republican Party’s refusal to pass one line of legislation is that millions of Americans will be forced to endure more hardship and suffering.
The Republican Party created the debt ceiling crisis to politically wound President Obama, but the deepest wounds will be inflicted on people who have already been devastated by one recession and will now likely have to endure another.
In 2010 some Americans decided that they wanted a divided government, and now we all are going to have to live with the consequences of their fulfilled wish.
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a. mcewen
Jul. 31st, 2011 at 10:19 pm
So if the Republicans ask “where are the jobs,” we can say “ask the Super Congress.”
Jason Easley
Jul. 31st, 2011 at 10:49 pm
It is amazing that the Congress has decided that it can no longer govern and will now require, “adult supervision.”
Brian Daniels
Jul. 31st, 2011 at 10:36 pm
This deal means we will have to listen to Michelle Bachman’s TeaBagger Orchestra all the way to and then beyond November. After what we just witnessed do you really think that both side will agree on anything in November? Why? Because it’s colder? This stinks badly of the president I voted for collapsing in surrender again. All the GOP has to do is play the “big stall” game that has proven successful so far and somehow I bet those cuts are far more objectionable to the Democratic party and human being in general than they are to the GOP. I am starting to get the same queasy feeling when the president speaks of compromise that I get when John of Orange says “Job Creators”.
buckeyewill
Jul. 31st, 2011 at 10:42 pm
To Congress…..Just say no.
Jason Easley
Jul. 31st, 2011 at 10:48 pm
I think for those who hate this deal, that is the path to defeat. I am afraid that the choice we are being offered is between a recession and a depression. I am not sure House Dems are brave enough to take that risk.
buckeyewill
Jul. 31st, 2011 at 11:13 pm
Good grief…a choice between being punched in the gut or kicked in the teeth. Wow.
Cathy
Jul. 31st, 2011 at 11:43 pm
Great article, and I agree. It is going to be a very tough time for many over the next 18 months, but then we have the opportunity to vote out the no-compromise folks and return the House and more of the Senate to the Democrats. And by making this agreement, President Obama guarantees seniors and the military get paid this month. I also am not overly pleased with this compromise, but is the best that could be accomplished in this political arena and at this late hour.
DannyEastVillage
Aug. 1st, 2011 at 12:04 pm
18 months? And what about no extension of unemployment benefits?
How are child nutrition programs going to do?
Anything about the pentagon?
catmanhunting
Jul. 31st, 2011 at 10:45 pm
let’s also reply “in the corrupted scotus”
Jason Easley
Jul. 31st, 2011 at 10:46 pm
Brian,
I wouldn’t say it was a collapse at all. This president is doing what Bill Clinton did before him. He is triangulating for his reelection.
Since you are the first to bring up the “Obama collapse” opinion, it is important to point out that House and Senate Democrats have a chance to kill this deal too.
If they vote for it, will it mean that they also collapsed? Putting this all on Obama is a very narrow way of looking at it. If you want this to die, then pressure congressional Democrats to reject it.
Brian Daniels
Jul. 31st, 2011 at 11:42 pm
Jason, I’m not pinning this situation on Obama. I know it’s really not on him, but I am getting very tired of a pattern that has developed with him. Single payer, closing Gitmo or killing the Bush tax cuts. Time after time he has failed to do what he promised and then made a speech saying it’s the best he could do. I know the debt crisis is brought to you by that Al-Queda of true Patriots, the TeaBaggers. I hope I am wrong in thinking those tough choices are only going to be tough for the Dems. I don’t think he is being Clinton-esque at all. Clinton said two or three weeks ago he would use the 14th. I agree. The president, in my opinion, had a golden opportunity to solidify his base and bring back confidence in the guy we all voted for. The other side loathes him and that wouldn’t change one whit. He wasn’t elected to win his reelection. He was elected to bring about “change we can believe in”. Remember that? Would they have tried to impeach him. Yup. The tough talking candidate I saw would have said “Bring it On”.
Cathy
Jul. 31st, 2011 at 11:56 pm
POTUS did try to fulfill his campaign promises–he compromised on the Bush tax cuts to get unemployment benefits extended, and Congress fought him all the way on GITMO. He did get us a Health Care Plan (and I would have preferred single payer), but he got a plan passed and it is a beginning. Remember he had Congress to deal with here also. Raising the debt ceiling and debt reduction never should have been handled together. Welcome to the GOP circus!
kenjaminicus
Aug. 1st, 2011 at 6:22 am
“Clinton said two or three weeks ago he would use the 14th” It is easy to be an armchair quarterback. If it really did any good my Dolphins would win every Superbowl. Clinton should stick to advising not pontificating.
connie
Aug. 1st, 2011 at 8:27 am
Using the 14 amendment would have been challenged in the federal courts, the republican judges will challenge the decision to invoke. , which would immediately end up in SCOTUS. SCOTUS is partisan republican with Scalia beating the partisan drum. The vote would be 5/4 in their favor. As is Citizen’s United ruling, these so called strict constructionist would not rule as the Constitution was intended. In the end, it would have been the SCOTUS that would have stopped it.
We have to resist the danger of gravitating to the “mantra” of the day or risk becoming as myopic as the Teaparty. I whole heartily agree, this is what the liberals were warning of when we were begging the so called progressives not to take the bait of the right and vote, not sit out. We have to remember that inaction is action; but an action that gives away the very personal power we seek to gain. Like my parents used to say…”See, ya had to learn the hard way! I tried to warn you…”
catmanhunting
Jul. 31st, 2011 at 10:46 pm
it’s time to push back HARD
steph
Jul. 31st, 2011 at 11:06 pm
remember this and allways vote
CW in LA
Aug. 1st, 2011 at 12:48 am
Yes, but for whom: The Evil Party, The Capitulating Party, or The Fringe Parties That Amount In Practical Terms To Not Voting At All?
buckeyewill
Jul. 31st, 2011 at 11:15 pm
Have to give you credit, Mr. Easley, you know your politics very well.
Sarah Jones
Jul. 31st, 2011 at 11:47 pm
That he does.
Shiva (Moderator)
Jul. 31st, 2011 at 11:54 pm
I know SS and medicare are exempt, medicaid isnt(from what I have read). Hopefully this doesnt give the GOP a chance to just cut things. This is a long way from the Ryan plan of destroying lives. I think we have to give it that much credit.
However, as it does stifle jobs and I have not read Krugmans article, I might as well go back to my original conspiracy. That of both party’s working for the same goal in different coordinated manners
newmeximan
Jul. 31st, 2011 at 11:58 pm
The light at the end of the tunnel I see is that the Congressional Committee will report that tax increases are needed to offset spending cuts – since we all know that spending cuts are the real job killers.
The GOP will campaign for 2012 on a policy that since the Cheney tax cuts expire on Dec 31, 2012, their first order of business will be to renew them permanently. Logical thinkers know that nothing Congress does is permanent, but it will be red meat for their base.
A strong third party candidate will have no shot at winning the Presidency, but will hand Obama a win by dividing the GOP – and division between the social and fiscal conservatives could return to House and Senate back to the Democrats. Purity on whatever issue becomes the voter driven issue will fracture the right.
Now all Democrats have to do to campaign on in 2012 is to remind the electorate of the Ryan budget and Cut, Cap and Balance. The truth is out America – the conservatives plan to take away the benefits that you have earned, and they have no plans to pay you back with interest for the use of your money. They spent and borrowed money recklessly for 12 years, and now the only way to pay it back and to serve their corporate masters is to have the public pay the tab.
boil
Aug. 1st, 2011 at 12:43 am
read it and weep: bit.ly/qrZo7j
the only thing i can think of now, is sen bernie sanders run as an independent. the only one who speaks truth to power…
and call your rep. and tell them to vote NO! i did…
Bobfr
Aug. 1st, 2011 at 1:20 am
The following is a letter I just sent to Leader Reid and Leader Pelosi and then forwarded a copy to our dear President and Vice President:
Dear Leader Reid and Leader Pelosi,
At this point you and the President have done everything you possibly can given the Radical Republicans extortion tactics.
Please realize that millions of Americans are grateful.
Now, however, is the time to place the glaring light of accountability on the Radical Republicans.
Please request that the members of your respective Senate and House Democratic Caucus hold their vote until every Republican is on record with their vote. If the majority of Republicans in the Senate and House, respectively, do not support the legislation then please urge every member of your respective Caucus to vote NO.
If the Radical Republicans are not willing to overwhelmingly support the legislation they extorted then NO Democratic member of the House or Senate should support that legislation.
President Obama, duty sworn to protect and serve the Constitution, can act decisively through the Section 4 of the 14th Amendment and, even more importantly by his enforcing 31 USC 3103, to avoid default and protect the credibility of the USA.
But, under no circumstance, should the extortionists be allowed to prevail. If they are unwilling to overwhelmingly support the legislation their irresponsible actions forced to a vote, then no one should provide them any support.
Thank you,
Bob
Yes.We.Can. … DO.More.Together!
Sarah Jones
Aug. 1st, 2011 at 1:21 am
Excellent!
Cathy
Aug. 1st, 2011 at 10:32 am
X2!
Anne
Aug. 1st, 2011 at 9:58 am
I could not agree more. The president has the power to defang these extortionists by taking the matter out of their hands altogether. He needs to stop compromising with people who dont’ care about compromising, but only about his political demise.
The Platzner Post
Aug. 1st, 2011 at 1:33 am
Be carefuul what you wish for!!! “In 2010 some Americans decided that they wanted a divided government, and now we all are going to have to live with the consequences of their fulfilled wish.”
Nasty Liberal
Aug. 1st, 2011 at 5:57 am
If you pray for softballs, duck!
Robert Chapman
Aug. 1st, 2011 at 2:45 pm
This is the sort of confrontational proposal that we elected Barack Obama to steer us away from. As a political matter the deficit authorization should probably be passed as a voice vote.
Only the zealots on the two sides prosper from measures like bobfr’s proposal.
I say we have had enough zealotry, the time has come to reason together.
Josh
Aug. 1st, 2011 at 7:51 am
Speaking as an outside observer I can see some people who win. The rest of us. Reading your newspapers and blogs everyday I find it astounding how little the people who have such an impact (economically and otherwise) on the rest ofnthe world, care about the rest of the world. This deal means my mums retirement plan might stop losing 2-3% a day as Australia’s share market bounces back from the slump your idiot government put it in.
Shiva (Moderator)
Aug. 1st, 2011 at 9:59 am
I feel that it is somewhat sad that the United States has to influence every other country in the world financially. I think that is totally wrong and that it must be fixed. but be assured that our own retirement funds are bouncing just as much is yours. Our financial markets reward people who lay employees off and then go down on a bad jobs market report. There is so much that needs fixing in our financial system
I used to discuss things with a fellow from Malaysia online. He would go on and on about how Americans don’t know anything about any country outside their own. So I asked him a simple question once, I asked him where the Grand Canyon was and he said what’s the Grand Canyon?
A Walkaway
Aug. 1st, 2011 at 11:48 am
My father-in-law’s SS hasn’t increased in two or three years (maybe longer – I don’t know), but the cost of everything else has. In fact, when my mother-in-law died, they IMMEDIATELY cut her SS payments and it really made a negative change in his life. Now they’re talking about cutting back on the very things he needs to survive (SS and Medicare). He’s really angry and scared, and justly so. As bad off as we are, we try to help when we can (usually not that much), and he’s been forced to cut down on food and has gone to mainly sandwiches – skimpy ones at that.
The American elites are hurting everyone… and they’ve got so many Americans in a near-comatose state that they’re getting away with it. They blame the poor and working people for the very problems that they created in the first place, by their insistent greed.
Robert Chapman
Aug. 1st, 2011 at 2:41 pm
Your father-in-law’s loss is tragic and I extend my deepest condolences to him and your family for the loss of his wife.
His circumstances also illustrate perfectly the wickedness of the Ryan deficit reduction plan advocated by the GOP House caucus in its cut, cap and balance proposals.
What good are tax incentives if you are on a fixed income? SSI is non-taxable income anyway.
There is no way to conscientiously begin a budget discussion or deficit reduction talks from a first offer that includes the Ryan Plan.
Robert Chapman
Aug. 1st, 2011 at 2:48 pm
Thanks to Josh for his eloquent rebuttal of people like US Representative Harslinger, the number four person in the GOP House leadership, Texas Governor Rick Parry and US Representative Michelle Bachmann who show their stupidity in making claims that hestitancy in the debt authorization proceedings have no consequences for real people outside the Washington beltway.
Jaime
Aug. 1st, 2011 at 9:01 am
Wrong. This is a HUGE win for all of America. A big step forward to more job creation and less economic disaster. I HOPE that they continue down this path to a responsible, thrifty government for a CHANGE!
Robert Chapman
Aug. 1st, 2011 at 2:37 pm
Jaimie, agreed, we all believe that the federal government is bloated and can be trimmed without impeding its needed work.
Five trillion dollars in revenue enhancements from eliminating millionaire tax breaks will help more, though.
Eliminate foreign tax shelters, enforce the inheritance tax, tax capital gains at the same rates as earned income.
These three measures alone will put us on track to grow the economy by getting the feds out of the credit market.
These three measures will eliminate a vast part of the tax code’s tilt toward the idle rich that is suffocating innovation and investment in rising industries.
These measures will re-direct the efforts of American capitalists away from financial capitalism and back toward entrepeneurialism.
Dan
Aug. 1st, 2011 at 9:10 am
God this is depressing. I am gonna stop coming here. I can’t take the truth constantly beating me over the head!
CLARENCE SWINNEY
Aug. 1st, 2011 at 1:30 pm
NO ONE WILL LISTEN!!
5% OWN 63% ALL WEALTH
2% OWN 50% ALL FINANCIAL WEALTH
120,000,00 WORKERS OWN 7% FOR BANANA REPUBLIC
70,000,000 WORKERS GET 13% OF TOTAL INCOME
7,000,000 (MANY GAMBLERS) GET 50% OF ALL INDIVIDUAL INCOME
AMERICA RANKS ABOVE ONLY TURKEY-PERU-MEXICO ON EQUAL DISTRIBUTION OF INCOME AND WEALTH
AMERICA RANKS ABOVE ONLY ICELAND IN THE AMOUNT OF GDP TAKEN IN TAXES FROM CORPORATIONS
AMERICA GIVES HUGE TAX CUTS TO GAMBLERS WITH INCOMES OF $4000 MILLION-$3000M-$2000M ETC
TOP 70 MILLION PAY 13.65% TAX RATE
I AM FED UP WITH THE TRIPLE A PARTY THAT IS
ANTI CHRIST ANTI AMERICA ANTI WORLD
I AM FED UUP WITH LEADERS WHO PARTICIPATE IN THIS RAPE OF THE MIDDLE CLASS 70,000,000 WHO HAVE HAD NO ABOVE INFLATION PAY INCREASE SINCE 1973
WILL YOU TELL THE PEOPLE? WILL YOU?
cswinney2@triad.rr.com Lifeaholics of America (work for a Life not just a Living)
Achmed madmadmad at Inequality in America
Achmed wants to march in the streets
Robert Chapman
Aug. 1st, 2011 at 2:30 pm
www.facebook.com/l/KAQBU3...”
Please use the above link to look at Senator Bernie Sanders, (Vt., I.), proposal to cut the deficit by $ 5 trillion through: enforcing the inheritance tax, eliminating off shore tax havens, and raising the capital gains tax to the levels applied to earned income.
Senator Sanders proposal introduces fairness into the US Tax Code, raises significant revenue from undertaxed sources and will stimulate job creation and economic growth.
The existence of these loopholes demonstrates that the tax code is skewed unfairly in favor of the rich. Eliminating them would level the economic playing field and provide the government with revenue that did not come from nickle and diming the middle class.
It is highly likely that the lessening of the federal deficit combined with the stimulative effects of redirecting American investment flows back into the domestic economy would provide a good boost and create needed jobs. Such a jobs boost would in turn create the wealth and productivity increases needed for a multiplier effect from this inflow of money.
The GOP argument that government spending is the root problem of the economic downturn is refuted by a) the favorable treatment the rich receive from the tax code and b) the fact that the level of federal taxation, as a percentage of GDP, is at a post-WWII low.
The solutions are there if we are strong enough to insist they are passed.