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America Must Prosecute Grover Norquist and His GOP Acolytes for Treason
According to the law, treason is the crime that covers acts against one’s own government, and it is one of the most egregious violations a citizen can commit. In a normal act of treason, an individual would have to have access to state secrets, or a high level member of the government, and even then there are security measures to prevent the dissemination of information that could damage the government. The U.S. Constitution contains a passive provision to protect against traitors within the government that entails requiring public servants and politicians to swear an oath to support the Constitution and by extension, the government, but most Republicans signed a pledge they feel overrides their oath of office with the goal of destroying the government by starving it of revenue.
For over a quarter of a century there has been a concerted effort by Republicans to shrink the federal government by reducing revenue and protecting the richest 2% of Americans, but their leader, Grover Norquist, makes no bones that his goal is reducing government to a size he can “drown in a bathtub.” Regardless one’s definition of treason, Norquist and his Republican acolytes are guilty of acting against the government with the goal of destroying it. Norquist is not a public servant and therefore cannot personally affect government operations, but his Republican foot soldiers are guilty of treason by refusing to fulfill their Constitutional duty to raise taxes. In the U.S. Constitution, Article 1 Section 8 says, “The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States”
The important part of Section 8 is Congress’s duty to levy and collect taxes to pay debts and provide for the nation’s general welfare, but as Republicans bemoaned the national debt they created, they refused to fulfill their constitutional duty to lay and collect taxes to pay the nation’s debts. Some Republicans are re-evaluating their strict adherence to Norquist’s attempt to destroy the government, and questioning the wisdom of promising to never raise taxes, but they are in the minority and Norquist recently made it clear his true followers are moving forward with their assault on the government and the people.
Shortly after Georgia Senator Saxby Chambliss said he had a problem with the Grover Norquist tax pledge because he cared “more about my country than I do about a 20-year-old pledge,” and that “if we do it his way, then we’ll continue in debt.” Norquist disputed the idea his plan would not help the economy and said he personally supports Paul Ryan’s plan he said would pay down the debt without the wealthy paying taxes. Of course he supports Ryan’s plan because by design it shrinks government and reduces revenue by cutting taxes for the wealthy 20% as he states, to give the “makers” incentive to create economic growth.
Ryan and Norquist’s contention that drastically reducing revenue provides the means to pay down the nation’s debt has been debunked by economic experts and the non-partisan Congressional Research Service that found cutting taxes for the wealthy does not help economy and certainly does not increase revenue necessary for debt reduction. In fact, coupled with Draconian spending cuts and eliminating government programs, reducing revenue expedites Norquist’s goal of shrinking the government to a size that can be eliminated by bankrupting it. As the President and Congress begins work to avoid the so-called fiscal cliff, Speaker of the House John Boehner made Ryan the point man to push to implement the Romney-Ryan tax plan experts warned would blow up the deficit. It is important to remember that Republicans are using the deficit they created to cut taxes for the rich and eliminate government programs as a fiscally responsible method of cutting the deficit.
Over the past three years Republicans have openly campaigned against the government and sought to cut funding to myriad programs with the goal of neutering them and eventually eliminating them altogether. However, it is their refusal to raise taxes and increase revenue that is a direct violation of Article 1 Section 8, and it is time to hold them accountable for their treasonous acts against the government, and they are guilty of treason. According to 18 USC § 2381, “Whoever, owing allegiance to the United States, adheres to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort within the United States or elsewhere, is guilty of treason and shall suffer death, or shall be imprisoned not less than five years and fined under this title but not less than $10,000; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States.” As noted in Article 1 Section 8, Congress has the responsibility, under the Constitution they swore to uphold, to lay and collect taxes to pay the nation’s debts and provide for the general Welfare. Their refusal to do so as signatories of Norquist’s anti-tax pledge damns them as guilty of treason and renders them incapable of holding any office under the United States.
It is apparent the Attorney General, or Congress, is not going to charge or prosecute Republicans who disobey their Constitutional mandate by refusing to raise taxes out of their allegiance to Norquist, so it falls on the people to petition the government for redress of their grievances against Republican traitors. In the coming days and weeks, Republicans will defend reducing revenue and cutting programs with the view towards eliminating government piece by piece, and not, as they contend, to reduce the debt. Americans are not impotent against the treasonous GOP, and a concerted grassroots effort to flood recalcitrant Republican legislators’ offices with phone calls and emails will send a strong message that they were sent to Washington, swore an oath to support the Constitution, and are expected to fulfill their responsibility under Article 1 Section 8, and if they do not, will be rendered incapable of holding any office whether by a recall movement, or ballot box, because Americans cannot tolerate Republican traitors any longer.
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Reynardine
Nov. 25th, 2012 at 10:09 am
Aside from the Constitutionally-established high bar to proving treason, Grover Norquist would have to be actually an insurrectionist waging war, or aiding a foreign entity waging war, to be convicted of treason, and because he has not called for force or violence in overthrowing the lawfully’ constituted government (the law does not recognize economic warfare as “force or violence”), he has skirted the sedition statutes, as well. I am convinced, however, that a sufficiently thorough investigation would support a public corruption conviction against both him and his legislative marionettes.
fedded-up
Nov. 25th, 2012 at 10:32 am
Agreed with all of above.
While I believe that the cumulative effects of what Norquist plus every congressperson who made that pledge has the flavor of treason to anyone using facts and reason as their touchstone, I have zero doubt that they would spew all kinds of nonsense ‘un-facts’ to justify their recalcitrance, i.e., cite to all kinds of RW BS ‘studies’ that support their stance. Yes, every one of them have been thoroughly debunked – they don’t care about that. They’re not basing their actions on ‘facts’ or ‘reason,’ they are running on pure ideology and the promise of campaign money.
These aren’t stupid people (well, not all of them anyway). They just have a farrrrrr different agenda than the one they’re saying they have. But I don’t think it rises to the level of treason, at least not legally. Morally, yes. But you’re never gonna convict somebody of ‘moral treason.’
BodiJohn
Nov. 25th, 2012 at 11:03 am
Totally agree! How can elected officials who have sworn to protect and obey the Constitution sign a pledge that directly affects their ability to carry out the full measure of their duties?! Norquist is a private citizen he can have his own opinions, state them openly and freely. He can petition his government; but, he cannot restrict through coercion the actions of elected representatives. I am pleased to see this being discussed finally. Anyone who signed that pledge has violated their oath of office.
Thinking Person
Nov. 25th, 2012 at 3:14 pm
Fox is owned by foreigners. Karl Rove had Foreign investors and in fact, people with ties to Israel, Mexico and international elections. Norquist was part of the whole Mariana Island Deal and many other countries. The Republicans and many of their supporters keep their money entirely outside the US and fail to pay taxes to the United States Government. Many of the foundations run and owned by these guys are part of a multinational ring of influence in banks, corporations, lobbyists and governments across the world. If their global goal is 1) Austerity for All, 2) CUTTING ENTITLEMENTS willy nilly not even based on economics, and 3) A Global Control of Government Spending whether swishing it over to the banks as bailouts or swishing it back as austerity, 4) Considering the global firings across banks world wide one month last year, 5) Commodities Price Fixing and Playing – I doubt there is any lack of evidence that can meet those high bars.
clarence swinney
Nov. 25th, 2012 at 10:11 am
Thanksgiving for Great leaders
Good Comments on Bill Clinton
1.Billy Graham at Oklahoma City-“His quick mind and warm personality impressed me immediately. Seldom have I seen anyone express, so movingly and sincerely, a genuine sense of compassion and sympathy to those who were hurting.
I felt that he, not I, was the real pastor that day.
We spent much of the afternoon talking about the Bible and what it days about God’s plan for our lives. It was a time of warm fellowship with man who has not always won approval from his fellow Christians but who has in his heart “a desire to serve God”.
2. James McDougal On Larry King—“Bill Clinton’s charisma and caring for others is real. He has always been that way.”
3. Hillary Clinton—“He is the most optimistic and gregarious person I have ever known or heard about. He likes people, all people, with no pettiness or preferences.”
4. John Brummitt—Author of ”High Wire” and Editor of Republican Arkansas Democrat Gazette—“Bill Clinton is no phony. He truly cares for others. I will repeat it for the umpteenth time that Bill Clinton is no crook. You may disagree with him but he does not hold it against you. He has no interest in financial things.”
5. David Maraniss-Author of Clinton Biography “First in His Class” and reporter for Washington Post. “Bill Clinton truly likes people and feels their pain .He doesn’t know how to hate. He doesn’t have a mean bone in his body.”
6.Jack Nelson—Washington Bureau Chief for Los Angeles Times for decades—“ I have known Bill Clinton since he came to Washington but I know of nothing he has done that impugns his integrity. His integrity is as good as Bob Doles. He has to compromise from his original position to get things done and his critics crucify him for doing what every president must do.”
7. James Stewart—Author of Bloodsport—“The Clintons commited no crime in their investment in the Whitewater land purchase.”
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Nancy
Nov. 25th, 2012 at 10:18 am
??? I’m sorry, think you posted your Clinton lovefest in the wrong box!
Judy M
Nov. 25th, 2012 at 10:54 am
How did Norquist establish such a stranglehold on the Republican Party?
Jean Netherton
Nov. 25th, 2012 at 7:15 pm
Follow the money Judy.
Larry Merriam
Nov. 25th, 2012 at 11:12 am
Under the free speach clause of the constitution Grover does have the right to do what he does.
The only recourse is to vote out of office those who have signed his pledge.
To join the fight visit www.groverno.com
Becky Pence
Nov. 25th, 2012 at 11:14 am
I agree wholeheartedly. I have been saying this for four years. And ALSO the gang of 15 that met on Obama’s 1st day and made a pact to make him a one term President. He had just been elected in a LANDSLIDE and they deliberately went against WE THE PEOPLE.
Anne
Nov. 25th, 2012 at 11:26 am
I personally see Grover Norquist and his minions in government as much more of a threat than outside groups like Al Quaeda. That’s because they work like termites to destroy our government from within by starving it of the funds necessary for it to function effectively. By making taxes a dirty word, they also convince a significant number of gullible Americans to go along with this toxic nonsense. Their actions are nothing short of being treasonable because they are designed to undermine the very government that’s provided the framework in which they have managed to prosper. It’s even more egregious because they are attempting to prosper at the expense of most Americans, even those who support them.
Eric Carrig
Nov. 25th, 2012 at 11:47 am
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Thinking Person
Nov. 25th, 2012 at 3:23 pm
Norquist could have run in this last election on his ideas. He would have lost. He knows that. If someone can not pass their ideas through the election process, they don’t get to backdoor get the WHOLE Republican Party to do it for him.
If so, Why Can’t I do that can get something I want done?
What makes Grover special? In fact, he’s got a very sketchy reputation and past associations. Is there some reason associated felons have some special back door?
I just don’t get it. Of course, its impossible for our representatives to be pledged to anything or anyone but the American people.
No wiggle room. Its set in the Constitution which would NORMALLY have the GOP all over this! Where are they?
luciboo
Nov. 25th, 2012 at 11:55 am
One thing for sure. Norquist cares nothing for this country or democracy. Therefore we can question the Republican’s motives who sign with him. Are they putting their country or themselves first?
Kim
Nov. 25th, 2012 at 12:13 pm
I believe it says they have the “power,” not the “responsibility” to tax. However, it is still wrong that these politicians are sticking to this ridiculous oath. Something should be done – a recall, voted out of office. Americans did not vote Paul Ryan into office because we do not support his policies.
David Hinson
Nov. 25th, 2012 at 12:21 pm
this is a bit off topic on GN, but on treason? dead on, has anyone else seen or heard of this?
www.youtube.com/watch?v=6...
Bob Doyle
Nov. 25th, 2012 at 12:47 pm
We have been aware and communicating the same concerns a decade or more. Our Federal representatives of FL have poohpoohed it, just like Grover does. The actions of RICO Grover are simple extortion. The Sworn elected are not fit to trust in our democracy’s ship of state.
Time to move ahead leaving these high level criminals behind.
Brigita Petrutis
Nov. 25th, 2012 at 1:36 pm
This is an example of what President Obama was talking about, when he said government can’t change from within. It is up to us, to apply the pressure, with our votes, with our petitions, with our voices, in order to keep our elected leaders on the straight and narrow. Signing that pledge was in direct opposition to properly executing oath of office, and it’s going to take US to make that obvious.
Rixar13
Nov. 25th, 2012 at 1:40 pm
“The U.S. Constitution contains a passive provision to protect against traitors within the government that entails requiring public servants and politicians to swear an oath to support the Constitution and by extension, the government, but most Republicans signed a pledge they feel overrides their oath of office with the goal of destroying the government by starving it of revenue.”
Proof of laws violated by many Republicans.
Rosemarie Benintend
Nov. 25th, 2012 at 1:43 pm
I’ve been saying this for quite some time. Republican obstructionism is TREASON.
momachu
Nov. 25th, 2012 at 2:22 pm
If not prosecuted for treason, at the very least all the signers of the pledge should renounce it and reaffirm there oath to the United States Constitution or face impeachment, expulsion or both. I will sign any petition to do any of those things.
qwunk12
Nov. 25th, 2012 at 4:01 pm
Except that treason cannot be committed against our government only country. Citizens of the us we all have the power to abolish our government and create a new one in its stead.
Reynardine
Nov. 25th, 2012 at 7:35 pm
See here, Qwunk: until we abolish or change our form of government, which we may peaceably and lawfully do by two different mechanisms, treason against our government is treason against us, for collectively, we are both the government and the country. As I explained, Norquist has not technically committed anything but corruption and racketeering, plus conspiracy to commit the same. Should he, however, wage war or incite to or sponsor violent overthrow, he will fall fully within the purview of the laws, and if he raises the quibble you did, he will be laughed out of court and all the way to Leavenworth (as Alcatraz is closed).
Conservative Patriot
Nov. 25th, 2012 at 7:29 pm
Grover Norquist has used sedition to injure the United States. He should be tried for treason. If guilty he should be hung like Sadam Hussein.
SinghX
Nov. 26th, 2012 at 7:34 am
In reality, that won’t work (as pointed out by knowledgeable commentary), however, since he’s such a shady character who knows more than he should, one would think he could be more of a danger to those “in power” who see him as a threat (they were scared of uber-lobbyist Abramoff and they don’t want to go down that road again). That’s the way the “R’s” play–they feed/turn on their own. Plus, the obvious; they’re fragmented and have no leadership at present.
To see 2 southern good old boys (Chambliss and Graham) openly turn last week, as well as old Imhoffe a while back (is he still in office or was this his last term?)…I’m betting there will be more to come as the “drama” of backstabbing one another seems to be appealing to these sociopaths what with so much “blame” to go around…
Tracy Coyle
Nov. 25th, 2012 at 7:40 pm
Come find me.
Only a mindless drone can slander Norquist and suggest that opposition to government, the failure to raise taxes, is a traitorous offense.
The fact that so many agree and cheer is testament that the ignorance on display by Rmuse is shared by millions of others.
Come find me – because if starving government of the sustenance to its excess is treason, I willingly take up a sword in treason against a government that knows no bounds and deserves no quarter.
A Walkaway
Nov. 26th, 2012 at 4:30 pm
You’re kidding, right? You think it’s good that the poor and middle class are paying for the rich, do I have that correct? That trying to make them pay their fair share is somehow wrong? (NOTE: NONE of us advocate raising taxes on the ordinary people, only on the rich who have had their taxes cut and cut and cut and … – some of them pay no taxes but take all of the benefits of living in this country – benefits often denied the poor!)
You might be interested in noting that the reason why the “Democrats want to rule your life” meme got started was because we told the religious schools that they couldn’t discriminate against minorities and get federal funding. They wanted government money, but the freedom to be bigots.
REPUBLICANS have been the ones to try to micromanage everyone’s lives… just as the “Good Christians” succeeded in doing with us for many years (no longer). Just as I did back when I was brainwashed (and foolish and with reduced sapience), you’re blaming the wrong people. I had to abandon the churches and get around liberals to find the truth – that the people that I used to be around were the evil ones, and the ones they labeled as bad were the kind and caring (and thoughtful/thinking) ones.
Wake up, please. You’re being led by the nose to your own slaughter!
Naomi DesMoines
Nov. 25th, 2012 at 7:56 pm
Oh, stop. This talk of impeachment and prosecution for high treason has to stop. What is the point? Both sides are screaming threats at each other that are unrealistic, to say the least. Let’s put our energies to good use. For example, let’s put our energy behind a new business model for Amreica’s business community based on the old business model of Henry Ford. Offer a product your workers will be able to buy. Raise the employees of the big-box stores out of poverty, stimulate the economy with the influx of new money, which — Eureka! — will be spent in big box stores. Win-win. The capitalistic American economy is not driven by the money of the rich, it is driven by the buying power of the middle class. Lift it up and we all will benefit.
Lynne
Nov. 26th, 2012 at 6:24 pm
I despise Grover Norquist, and shame on elected officials who sold their sacred honor to him, but he didn’t hold a gun to anyone’s head. Treason? Any citizen can express his opinion; what baffles me is why so many listened to this one misguided soul.
happybird
Nov. 30th, 2012 at 7:53 pm
I think the problem with the us economy IS the big box stores/corporations. The american dream used to be accomplished by owning a small, community oriented business. The owner paid a decent, living wage to long term employees, used the services of other local businesses (accountants, real estate agencies, etc) and actually had a stake in the community. Employees could be proud of where they worked. On the other hand, all the big box corporations have taken over many, if not all, the traditional small business opportunities- hardware stores, office supply, pet stores, restaurants, craft stores…and don’t forget the epitome of good job killers and cheap, foreign goods importers: walmart, target, etc. They can buy stuff for so cheap and in such quantity from China, a small business has virtually no chance to compete. They pay minimum wage and many only allow part time hours so employees don’t qualify for benefits. I know you have noticed how much customer service absolutely sucks these days. It’s because the employees just can’t be bothered to care about such a crappy job. Sorry, I just realized that I’ve crossed into ranting:) The bottom line is this: the only people who truly benefit from big businesses is big banks. The rest of us get cheap, crappy merchandise, borderline hostile “customer service”, annoyingly cheesy restaurant servers, and rapidly decaying communities where no one knows their neighbors.
David Hinson
Nov. 25th, 2012 at 8:35 pm
well i for one am at the convention to go on off the fiscal cliff. maybe the sheep will wake up and put in place a Democratic House. There are many more issues that must be addressed that will never see the light of day until we the lying bastards out of office.
a true revelation and accountability of 9-11 must be exposed in a public forum. BUSH, CHENEY, RUMSFIELD are guilty of treason, the deaths of innocent American citizens at home in those attacks, supported the CIA assets who are blamed to crash into the towers, that were loaded with military grade thermite-the heat blast alone on adjacent build cannot be explained any other way, the melting of autos on the street, and how the steel and concrete contiued to “burn” for 3 months after 9-11,
The American attack of “jihadists” is absurd when jihad never will support attacks on outside countries, but only to defend. al Qeada is a demon designed for Americans to fear, instilled by media, for continued support of a ghost war that can never be won.
there are too many unexplainables, like- why doesn’t the engines found at twin towers match the planes said to have crashed there?
but then, DO WE REALLY WANT TO KNOW THE TRUTH?
A Walkaway
Nov. 26th, 2012 at 4:37 pm
Uh… military grade thermite leaves a chemical signature, and that wasn’t found. I think you need to do some real research and get away from the nutcases – Popular Science did an expose on the nonsense that people are repeating about 911, along with either Nova or National Geographic (both have reasonable standards of research for TV programs).
It didn’t take thermite to bring down the twin towers, just a combination of factors that the plane crashes provided.
(If thermite had been used, the towers would have come down immediately. That stuff works FAST… you know how fast the rocket boosters for the shuttle work? The composition of their rocket fuel and the composition of thermite is rather similar.)
David Hinson
Nov. 25th, 2012 at 8:36 pm
well i for one am at the convention to go on off the fiscal cliff. maybe the sheep will wake up and put in place a Democratic House. There are many more issues that must be addressed that will never see the light of day until we the lying ba&*^%S out of office.
a true revelation and accountability of 9-11 must be exposed in a public forum. BUSH, CHENEY, RUMSFIELD are guilty of treason, the deaths of innocent American citizens at home in those attacks, supported the CIA assets who are blamed to crash into the towers, that were loaded with military grade thermite-the heat blast alone on adjacent build cannot be explained any other way, the melting of autos on the street, and how the steel and concrete contiued to “burn” for 3 months after 9-11,
The American attack of “jihadists” is absurd when jihad never will support attacks on outside countries, but only to defend. al Qeada is a demon designed for Americans to fear, instilled by media, for continued support of a ghost war that can never be won.
there are too many unexplainables, like- why doesn’t the engines found at twin towers match the planes said to have crashed there?
but then, DO WE REALLY WANT TO KNOW THE TRUTH?
againstmywill
Nov. 26th, 2012 at 3:27 am
I continue to be surprised that no one has decided to call Grover’s bluff. How is it concievable that 1 man is effectively coercing or extorting more than half of the elected officials in congress. Which oath holds more value, a pledge signed to an individual, or to a nation. Grover needs to go to jail, because its criminal what he is allowed to do.
aujes
Nov. 26th, 2012 at 7:29 am
Grover has been holding the republican party hostage for years….get with the program republicans…some of them have already withdrawn their pledge
…lets get this great country back on track !!!!
Tooncy
Nov. 26th, 2012 at 9:39 am
It’s just a matter of time. All of these traitors will go down.
Doris~
Nov. 26th, 2012 at 1:54 pm
We the People of The United States should all sign a petition to charge these children with treason because what are they good for? absolutely nothing!
but cause destruction & obstruction to our country and America is better than these extremists.
bptr
Dec. 4th, 2012 at 4:30 am
When will people figure out that the Republican Party stands ONLY for lying, corruption, and brainwashing the gullible stupid masses.
If peopole weren’t so complacent, illinformed and just plain dumb, the Republican D-BAGS would and could not exist.
bptr
Dec. 4th, 2012 at 4:48 am
Republicans’ sole purpose is to protect Corporate SCAMMERS, BILLIONAIRES, and SPECIAL INTERESTS.
They care about the middle-class only to squeeze them to death and enslave them.