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Legality Vs Morality: The Law Allows the Use of Drones, But Should We Do It?
Congress has the classified version of the Obama Administration’s Drone memo. Congress appears less concerned about the salient questions surrounding the use of Drones now that they have the memo. In part, this is about transparency, but it’s also possible that the complete memo is as legally sound or more legally sound than the legal basis outlined in the White Paper.
NBC reported:
Reversing its course, the White House will now brief members of Congress on the legal justifications for drone strikes against U.S. citizens, an administration official said Wednesday night.
“Today, as part of the president’s ongoing commitment to consult with Congress on national security matters, the president directed the Department of Justice to provide the congressional intelligence committees access to classified Office of Legal Counsel advice related to the subject of the Department of Justice White Paper,” the official said.”
The way Obama handled the Drone Memo illustrates an important difference between his Administration and the Bush administration when it comes to security matters that raise difficult moral and legal questions.
Congress has the Memo that provides the Obama Administration’s legal basis for using Drones. We have a redacted version in the White Paper. Compare that with the Bush Administration on torture. For the duration of the Bush Administration, we were left with “it’s legal because we say so” despite the fact that we know torture is both wrong and illegal. It wasn’t until the Obama Administration released the torture memos that we had a chance to evaluate the flawed legal “reasoning” behind the Bush Administration’s torture program.
During his confirmation hearing, John Kerry said:
“President Obama and every one of us here knows that American foreign policy is not defined by drones and deployments alone. We cannot allow the extraordinary good that we do to save and change lives to be eclipsed entirely by the role that we have had to play since September 11th, a role that was thrust upon us.”
War is the ugliest business around. Now, we’re using unmanned aircraft, known as drones, the legal basis for the drones is being questioned. We should have that discussion.
Using unmanned aircraft to kill people brings with it serious issues – many of which came the forefront since the white paper outlining the legal basis for using drones against Al-Qaeda was released on Monday.
We should be concerned about the precedent this sets for future administrations. However, we should also be aware that the rules of war allow for things that we would find unconscionable on a moral and emotional level.
Earlier this week, the DOJ released a White Paper, which is reportedly different from the Memo. If the White Paper provided any legal basis to use drones against Americans other than those who are high level operatives in al-Qaeda or its allies, I would gladly join the critics. I suspect that if the Memo was on less solid ground than the White Paper we would have heard some more hard hitting questions during John Brennan’s confirmation hearing today.
Let’s begin with the claim that this is about coming after Americans without due process. First of all, the White Paper restricts using drones to attacks on a high ranking operative with Al-Qaeda or its allies. Second, the legal basis is solid, in that it applies national and international law, ranging from the Hague Conventions of 1907 (which are part of the legal framework for the rules of war) to recent court decisions.
From page 8 of the White Paper.
“An operation consistent with the laws of war could not violate the prohibitions against treachery and perfidy, which address a breach of confidence by the assailant (See e.g. Hague Convention IV, Annex, art. 23(b), Oct 19, 1907, 36 Stat. 2277, 2301-02 (“[I]t is especially forbidden . . . [t]o kill or wound treacherously individuals belonging to the hostile nation or army . . . . “) These prohibitions do not, however categorically forbid the use of stealth or surprise, nor forbid attacks on identified individual soldiers or officers. See U.S. Army Field Manual 27-10, The Law of Land Warfare, Para. 31 (1956) (article 23(b) of the Annex to the Hague Convention IV does not “preclude attacks on individuals soldiers or officers of the enemy whether in the zone of hostilities, occupied territory, or else-where”).
In plain English, the Army Field Manual 27-10* commentary on article 23 (b) of the Hague Convention IV of 1907** Article 23 (b) says that we can attack people who are part of an enemy force anywhere. The Hague Convention has been law for over 100 years. Moreover the Army Field Manual 27-10, reaffirmed it in 1956.
Unlike the Bush administration’s justifications for torture by rewriting or dismissing established legal principles, the White Paper relies on solid legal principles.
There is a constitutional basis to use force against a U.S. citizen who is a part of enemy forces (as per Hamdi, 542 U.S. 507)
The capture and detention of lawful combatants and the capture, detention, and trial of unlawful combatants, by “universal agreement and practice,” are “important incident [s] of war.” Ex parte Quirin, supra, at 28, 30.
The White Paper acknowledges that while U.S. citizens are protected under the Due Process Clause when they are abroad, U.S. citizenship doesn’t provide constitutional immunity from attack if they are a leader of an enemy force.
“The Department assumes that the rights afforded by Fifth Amendment’s due Process Clause, as well as the Fourth Amendment, attach to a U.S. citizen even while he is abroad.” See Reid v. Covert, 354 U.S. 1, 5-6 (1957) (plurality opinion); United States v. Verdugo-Urquidez, 494 U.S. 259,269-70 (1990); see also In re Terrorist Bombings of U.S. Embassies in East Africa; The U.S. citizenship of a leader does not give that person constitutional immunity from attack. (my emphasis)
In other words, this is about going after senior level operatives in Al-Qaeda and its allies.
If you are a senior operative in Al-Qaeda or its Allies, you can be targeted. If you are both a senior operative in Al-Qaeda or one of its allies and you are an American citizen, the constitution does not give you a special immunity from attack. However, if you are an American and you are not a senior operative in Al Qaeda or its allies, the White Paper wouldn’t allow for you to be attacked by a drone.
This begs the question on what basis may someone be designated a part of the enemy forces and who gets to make that decision.
One point of concern lies in the fact that “an informed, high-level official of the U.S. government has the authority to decide who fits the criteria.” That could be hundreds of people. While they do have to follow criteria, the fact remains a lot of people would qualify to make this call.
The criteria itself is extensive.
In other words, this is not a blank check, again discrediting the claim that Obama is coming after innocent Americans with drones. Moreover, the White House is relying on established legal principles.
Of course, the Memo itself may contain additional criteria and it may contain other provisions. But, based on what we do know, there is a legal basis to use drones as intended.
I have serious concerns about the likelihood that John Brennan is among that 100 people qualified to make these assessments. There may be others as well.
I remain concerned about the precedent this sets. While the White Paper establishes stringent criteria and limits the use of drones, the fact remains that future administrations may use this to justify a broader use of drones.
Moreover, this would set a precedent for other countries, and perhaps Al-Quada. This is one of those issues in which the law allows it, but we may ask should we do it?
* U.S.Department Of The Army, Field Manual 27-10 The Law of Land Warfare, July 1956. Page 17, para. 31.
** Documents On The Laws Of War Second Edition, ed. Adam Roberts ad Richard Richard Guelff (Oxford University Press, 1989), Page 53.
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Tom
Feb. 9th, 2013 at 8:41 pm
Impressive breakdown. Bookmarking.
Sharin Khosa
Feb. 10th, 2013 at 3:57 pm
Tom you are correct.We should all thank Adalia Woodbury for writting this article. I hope more people read this and share the information. Well done.Well done.
l meyer
Feb. 9th, 2013 at 9:34 pm
How will we like it when another country decides to target someone here in the USA? How will we feel about it then?
I personally feel this is a bad idea that will someday come back to bite us in the ass.
Shiva(Moderator)
Feb. 9th, 2013 at 9:41 pm
I agree with your premise, but they already have attacked us once here.
I am not sure drones are any different then high altitude bombing as far as winning hearts and minds
zada
Feb. 9th, 2013 at 9:54 pm
Pandora’s Box….either USA stays #1 in use & technology or we lose…can’t do anything but regulate the use and do it with the whole world watching our lead~!
Anya
Feb. 9th, 2013 at 9:58 pm
I am glad to see that there are some guidelines being used for drone strikes. It does not remove all the worry I’d had but I want to know what the parameters are and that these are proven Al-Qaida members.
AZZIZA
Feb. 10th, 2013 at 2:01 am
We have been bombing other country’s for years, why is it a problem now!!I think it is smart of the President because our boys are over worked, more of them are coming home !! why don’t you all ask our soldiers if they think drones is better way to fight….
8^/
Feb. 10th, 2013 at 9:52 am
It all sounds good, but when there is no blood in the game, as they say, and when a side/US, has no blood in a game, the game may, never ever end! verrrrrrry EZ to mute, that its happening, every drone bombing, must be 1000% public, before it happens, or while it is happening!…… food 4 thought!
Gail Gardner
Feb. 10th, 2013 at 8:49 am
How sad that so few people use the Internet to research why we intervene in what countries. I recommend they start on YouTube with the reenactment of war hero General Smedley D. Butler’s speech “War is a Racket”.
In other countries innocents who get killed by drones along with the “target” are considered “collateral damage” so any person in the wrong place at the wrong time may end up dead via this policy.
If a drone can find someone, a smaller one could be used to follow or monitor someone until they could be arrested. To simply execute them without judicial process means we are all now potentially considered guilty.
Just who gets to decide that you deserve to be dead? Who oversees the process? Life is already full of corruption and this kind of power leads to the ultimate corruption.
When the general population stops listening to media and educational conditioning and refuses to send their children to be cannon fodder to take the natural resources of another country war can end.
We were warned decades ago by outgoing Presidents – more than one of them – about the power of the corporation and especially the military-industrial complex that supplies weapons to both sides of conflicts to maximize profits and damage.
War is how banks get countries into debt so they can take them over. Sad that so few use the brains in their head for more than learning how to win at some inane video games that are little more than training to go to war themselves.
Live by the sword and you die by the sword. We either stop attacking others or we will escalate into ever more violence and provoke attacks. Never underestimate the willingness of the elite to use any and all as pawns without caring any more about those who die than they would a bug they smashed underfoot.
Walt Goshert
Feb. 10th, 2013 at 9:23 am
How does the Obama Administration have ANY moral authority on gun control when declaring this as moral foreign policy?
Shiva(Moderator)
Feb. 10th, 2013 at 10:05 am
How do gun nuts have any moral authority when so many die form guns every year?
8^/
Feb. 10th, 2013 at 10:06 am
so its moral, to shoot children, in schools, but not moral, to end a war???????????????????????dam!
djchefron(Moderator)
Feb. 10th, 2013 at 12:21 pm
While checking the intertubes I came across this,
“You cannot qualify war in harsher terms than I will. War is cruelty, and you cannot refine it” [...] -William Tecumseh Sherman
That is all
JJM
Feb. 10th, 2013 at 1:50 pm
Until Congress rescinds their authorization for the president to use force against any nation, organization, OR PERSON who is aiming to attack us [read: the WMDs!] there is legal justification for the drone attacks.
Only if we are no longer at war will there be any constraint on this.
But remember this: since 2002, when the attack drones were first deployed, civilian casualties in Pakistan, Yemen and Somalia are under a 1000.
How many were ‘collateral damage’ in Iraq and Afghanistan?
bill horton
Feb. 10th, 2013 at 2:19 pm
No one says anything when the enemy straps explosives to his body and kills 50 people it’s ok… When our President simplifies it and nails these guys in their holes in the mountains or wherever…we get all these “humanitarians” coming out of the woodworks complaining. Instead of sending our children over there to die needlessly, I’m all for sending those drones who can pinpoint and destroy the enemy on their turf not ours’. War is war and the saying is all is fair in love and war. I’m not a war hawk, but I want the enemy to understand that death is the price if they f*** with us. None of this pussyfootin’ around with let’s fight pretty .
If you are an American and you don’t like this country go to one that fits your desired lifestyle…But do not try and destroy us from that land …Or else you become the enemy and you gets what you deserve!
Wendell Chrysler
Feb. 10th, 2013 at 2:54 pm
176 Pakistani children have been killed by drones going after terrorists. Those are the ones that have been admitted to … the CIA isn’t big on coming clean on this stuff, so that’s a minimum number. That doesn’t even begin to count all of the innocents in other countries. The UN is launching an investigation into civilian deaths at the hands of drones as we speak. If Bush had done this, you’d be calling him a war criminal (you would …).
This issue has just put on display how some folks are as purely ideological on the left as those on the right … people just praising a policy because Obama’s name is on it, but not looking at what it really means. Someone mentioned how this is like high-altitude bombing and that is precisely the problem. Firing a missile that kills women and children from far away is easy and seems like a game … the human consequence never has to be faced. Would you be quite so supportive if Americans were slitting the throats of innocents in person? Same result, same pain, same suffering … except when you do it in person you can tell who you’re killing and you have to take responsibility for it.
djchefron(Moderator)
Feb. 10th, 2013 at 2:58 pm
Where is this outrage over the thousands of Americans being killed by guns on our streets every year?A Lot of them was just walking down the street minding their own business.
Wendell Chrysler
Feb. 10th, 2013 at 3:02 pm
You’re kidding yourselves. This has just made it obvious that Obama supporters are as capable of ignoring reality as Bush supporters were … guess I don;t have a side anymore.
livingunderdrones.org
djchefron(Moderator)
Feb. 11th, 2013 at 12:43 pm
Fugitive alleged LAPD-killer is first drone target on U.S. soil
It’s official: The drone war has come home to America. Wanted fugitive Christopher Dorner, the homicidal former cop currently at war with the LAPD, has become the first known human target for airborne drones on U.S. soil. Their use was confirmed by Customs and Border Patrol spokesman Ralph DeSio, who revealed the government’s fear that Dorner will make a dash for the Mexican border. The fugitive has already killed three people, according to police, and has a $1 million bounty on his head. Dorner, who has military training, is believed to be hiding in the wilderness of California’s San Bernardino Mountains, where locating him without air support may be all but impossible.
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fedded-up
Feb. 13th, 2013 at 3:37 pm
The author has done a fine job of analyzing the legal arguments for the use of drones. I am far more concerned about its relative morality – that was addressed related to consultations with Congress, who should make the decisions about using it, whether or not it should be used on American citizens, and whether future administrations might abuse it.
Nowhere is the singularly simple question of whether or not it is immoral to conduct war like a very advanced video game, where the only ones with any significant “skin in the game” are the targets.
- They have no way to know if they have even been targeted.
- They have no way to protect themselves.
- They have no way to fight back.
- The person conducting the ‘game’ is completely removed from the results.
This is immoral. Plain and simple. War is SUPPOSED to be hell. It is SUPPOSED to be excruciatingly painful for ALL involved – mainly so they’ll learn to STOP the stupidity.
This country has a MAJOR problem comprehending that you cannot beat the jihad (or whatever else your enemy wants to call it) out of your enemy – it simply does not work. What you’ll get is twofold:
- An exponential increase in the number of people who hate us enough to kill.
- People working like demon-dogs to either disable the drones or find a way to track the signal to its source…or both.
Also, anyone who is so incredibly hampered by blinders that they cannot recall just one…little…tiny…administration ago, and just how far they were able to completely bastardize any and all notions of civility and ‘fair play’ and the ‘Geneva conventions’ and…well, fill in the blank…who does NOT think that future administrations will freely use drones on anyone considered an “enemy” on or off American soil, whether or not an American citizen…well, I’d like some of what you’re smokin.