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Ann Coulter Suggests School Shooting Would Have Been Prevented if Kindergarteners had Guns
Ann Coulter suggested to Sean Hannity that the Sandy Hook school shooting would have been prevented if there would have been more guns at the school. Does this also apply to the two kindergarten classrooms where the victims were?
Here is the audio from Media Matters:
Coulter told Hannity, “It’s a fact that there is only one policy that has been shown to reduce the incidence of multiple shootings. There’s always going to be crazy people in a country of 300 million people. Only one policy has reduced these mass shootings and the number of casualties, and that is concealed carry permits. If you want to reduce the number of dead, and the number of times this is going to happen in an area, you sort of sense this, because Although, it’s bee a long time since a school shooting, post offices, places that are gun free zones.”
Coulter first suggested that the solution to mass school shootings is to give everybody more guns, then she contradicted her position by admitting that it has been a long time since we have had a school shooting due to the fact that schools have been declared gun free zones.
Since the shooter Adam Lanza carried out his attack on two kindergarten classrooms, does this mean that Coulter is suggesting that kindergartners should be packing? Is Coulter suggesting that this incident could have been prevented if the teachers and and staff and Sandy Hook Elementary School all had weapons at the ready at all times?
A look at every mass shooting by Mother Jones came to the complete opposite conclusion as Coulter. In September, Mother Jones examined every mass shooting the the United States over the past 30 years, and found that armed bystanders don’t prevent the incident, but become victims themselves, “In 2005, as a rampage unfolded inside a shopping mall in Tacoma, Washington, a civilian named Brendan McKown confronted the assailant with a licensed handgun he was carrying. The assailant pumped several bullets into McKown and wounded six people before eventually surrendering to police after a hostage standoff. (A comatose McKown eventually recovered after weeks in the hospital.) In Tyler, Texas, that same year, a civilian named Mark Wilson fired his licensed handgun at a man on a rampage at the county courthouse. Wilson—who was a firearms instructor—was shot dead by the body-armored assailant, who wielded an AK-47. (None of these cases were included in our mass shootings data set because fewer than four victims died in each.)”
The right wing fairy tale that more concealed carry permits will reduce mass shootings is based on several flawed assumptions. The right assumed that the person who is carrying is at the ready. They assume that the individual with the gun won’t be targeted first. They also assume that the rampage shooter will have no element of surprise. They assume that those who find themselves in a mass shooting situation will be in a position to retaliate.
The idea that adding more guns to a school shooting would somehow reduce the violence defies common sense, but it is also symptomatic of where the discussion has quickly gone after the Newtown shooting.
What is frustrating is that both sides on the gun debate were so willing to push their partisan position immediately after the incident. The far left starting calling for gun bans and gun control, while the far right behaved like Coulter and said everybody must have guns.
There are quite a few writers on this website, like myself, who have guns in their homes, and we see a middle position that neither side is willing to discuss. Gun policy in this country does not have to be an all or nothing issue. It doesn’t have to be a matter of nobody has a gun or everybody has gun.
Coulter’s remarks are a result of taking an extreme position to its most absurd conclusion.
The problem is the violence. Gun policy factors into the degree of violence, but our national discussion gets so mired down in partisanship on guns that nobody is asking why this is happening in our society.
Both sides should be able to come together to see that one of the traits that most of these mass shooters share is mental illness. Would the Newtown situation have been “better” if the mentally ill killer would have killed two or three people instead of twenty six? What if Lanza would have used a homemade pipe bomb or two? Should that change the discussion about violence in our society?
Our media has also played a role in making the post-Newtown debate hyper partisan. Websites on the left and right immediately went to the gun issue, because it is an easy source of traffic after a mass shooting. Many writers made the decision that it is better to tell their readers what they want to hear instead of challenging them with an honest discussion. The decision always results in a sort of ideological trench warfare that kills any potential momentum that might exist for the change that they are supposedly advocating for.
I am suggesting that these mass killings go beyond the use of a gun. There are many issues and cultural beliefs that have joined together to form this problem. In my opinion, beginning and ending the discussion with guns opens the door to avoidance of the bigger and more painful issues.
People always look for the easy solution after mass murders. They think that if only we ban guns or give everyone guns, something like this will never happen again. It is a comforting thought, but it isn’t true. Everyone wants to believe that the killer was a bad apple, or the problem was the gun.
No one wants to think that the problem might be something in our society. People don’t want to face the fact that we may all have to look in the mirror and work together to end the violence.
But until our nation is ready to have a serious discussion, the violence will continue no matter what policy we have on guns.
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Martha
Dec. 15th, 2012 at 12:26 pm
She says things like this to get attention, to make $$$….so stop publishing her lunacy.
If she can’t make $$ from it she will disappear.
Adam Gustafson
Dec. 15th, 2012 at 8:05 pm
She stole this idea. This actually came from Archie Bunker
aurea
Dec. 16th, 2012 at 12:26 pm
Something fishy about the Connecticut shooting… Mother killed, shooter killed, and the victims are small children… Obama wants guns banned so he can control the population by fear…. hmmm…. Dead Children and teenage shooter… A teenager that can easily be mind manipulated…. hmmmm… No witnesses to explain how he became evil, what if there is someone else who controls him? There were three guns, two guns never used, then he ‘killed himself’ just before police came.
Shiva (Moderator)
Dec. 16th, 2012 at 12:32 pm
Now that is the most incredible thing I have heard since Obama’s parents put the notification of his birth in the paper so he could prove he was a citizen when he became the first black president.
So your saying Obama would call him up at night and convince him to kill kids so Obama could take guns away? And yet the one thing you are missing out on, is that Obama has done more for gun owners ten the NRA band of murderers
nomad
Dec. 17th, 2012 at 3:19 am
I am deeply suspicious about your name. Aurea. It is the name of a car manufactured in Italy from 1921 to 1930. That was EXACTLY the same time Mussolini rose to power. I am sure Mussolini rode in a car like that so I wonder what your REAL connection to fascists actually is. Coincidence? Seriously????!!
Here is the clincher. “Domus Aurea” was the name of the Roman emperor Nero’s palace. Nero was hater of Christians and used them as a scapegoat after the burning of Rome. I think your name must be some kind of code for some evil conspiracy aimed at patriotic Christians who believe in the second amendment.
There’s something fishy about you and I am waiting for Fox News to tell me exactly what the truth is about it!
(See, anybody can do it.)
Reynardine
Dec. 15th, 2012 at 12:36 pm
Annomaly is inherently peculiar, and I’ll say no more about that, lest I be mobbed by cruricentric narcissists. Nonetheless, I think the far Right is so fanatical about the Second Amendment so that they can, with impunity, send armed gangs of Brown Shi(r)ts to terrorize the rest of us.
Gary Charles
Dec. 15th, 2012 at 1:16 pm
Ann is that a gun in your pants or are you just excited?
Anne
Dec. 15th, 2012 at 1:19 pm
Ann Coulter is nothing but an ethically and intellectually challenged cretin who loves the sound of her own voice. Her suggestion is every bit as ludicrous as pouring more gasoline on a fire that was started with gasoline. It’s obvious that she has nothing of value to contribute to an absolutely necessary discussion about gun control, the addressing of mental health issues, or the safety necessary for a learning environment for kids. It’s equally obvious that she says outlandishly stupid things for both money and attention. I also blame the media for giving charlatans like her an undeserved dignity by publishing her nonsense.
JJM
Dec. 15th, 2012 at 1:21 pm
One: I’m surprised that one of the victims of these mass shootings hasn’t taken a contract out on Wayne La Pierre or any of these vile people who claim that only more guns in the hands of younger and younger and more unstable people is the solution?
To have been that proficient at killing so many, this Lanza fellow must have had a lot of target practice — with his mother’s guns, apparently. Was she a gun nut? Did she buy the guns to indulge her son? It would be more than interesting to know.
Two: how about this for a private sector, individualistic solution to gun violence: mandated liability insurance for any one possessing a gun. Police could stop and check if you have the insurance, and if not, impound your gun.
You can bet that if the for-profit private insurance industry got involved, there’d be very real background checks of individuals applying for the insurance: and for those with certain ‘pre-existing conditions’ like mental illness … that would be that. We require liability insurance to drive a car, after all, because the car is potentially a lethal weapon. Why not liability insurance for a real lethal weapon?
Reynardine
Dec. 15th, 2012 at 2:19 pm
Private insurance companies are altogether too likely to issue, withhold, or price their policies based on ethnic, political, economic, and religious criteria, rather than probable criminality or recklessness. I don’t hold with this.
mjh
Dec. 16th, 2012 at 4:17 am
“Private insurance companies are altogether too likely to issue, withhold, or price their policies based on ethnic, political, economic, and religious criteria, rather than probable criminality or recklessness.”
And if they do, report them to the Better Business Bureau.
They’ll stop that discriminatory practice REAL quick — or go out of business . . .
.
Reynardine
Dec. 16th, 2012 at 7:45 am
Were you born yesterday? How sweet! Happy birthday!
Karl Leuba
Dec. 17th, 2012 at 9:00 am
The Better Business Bureau is a Membership only organization. You pay your dues, you get a good rating. BBB is the equivalent of a Union for Business. You would do better to report them to the Bishop of Myrna, better know and Santa Claus.
Elizabeth 44
Dec. 15th, 2012 at 9:05 pm
I think the liability insurance is a GREAT idea. The insurance companies would love the business. Heck, even the NRA would probably get into the action. If the insurance is on the actions of the gun, payable by the owner, the owners would have a lot more motivation to lock up those guns. The Insurance companies would really be interested in how the owner handled the guns. It would establish the concept that the owner has some culpability if someone else misuses the gun. JJM, keep talking about your idea; its the first truly creative one I’ve seen.
Elizabeth
Dec. 16th, 2012 at 11:08 am
This is the very best idea I’ve ever heard on gun control!
Reynardine
Dec. 15th, 2012 at 1:50 pm
Early this morning, before daybreak, police shot down a gunman who was roaming the corridors of an Alabama hospital. The gunman wounded three before he was dropped.
This is the week that was. More such weeks will be if we don’t get a grip.
MrsGunka
Dec. 15th, 2012 at 1:52 pm
Take one look at that picture of Ann. Is that a picture of mental stability? Seriously, would you buy a used car from her? An automatic weapon? Girl Scout cookies? She’s an idiot. Just like Sarah Palin. Stable? NO!
A typical Fox News contributor. Fear monger.
mjh
Dec. 15th, 2012 at 2:07 pm
“There’s always going to be crazy people in a country of 300 million people.” — Ann Coulter
Correct, Ann — you prove that every time you open your mouth . . .
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Larry Dillon
Dec. 16th, 2012 at 2:22 am
“There’s always going to be crazy people in a country of 300 million people.” — Ann Coulter
Yes Ann you deluded transvestite looking nut,they’re are 300 million ppl in the country and a lot are crazy,that is why we need to regulate,regulate,regulate and ban war weapons.Assault weapons are to assault ppl.While we are at it end Gun Show loop-holes and put an end to the statistic that 40% of hand gun owners have never went through any background check of any kind.Thats a mild start.
46A9MA
Dec. 15th, 2012 at 2:41 pm
Once again, I will let Mr Schwarzenegger voice my thoughts:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=c...
Ron
Dec. 15th, 2012 at 3:55 pm
Why is Annie Coulter not in jail for voter fraud?
AC
Dec. 15th, 2012 at 3:56 pm
To hell with Coulter.
I’ve read plenty of blogs on this topic in the last 24 from Mother Jones to TPM to KOS. Can’t bother with wrong wing at all any more. They make less sense every day. Looking at you Coulter.
Nevertheless, I’m afraid I can’t agree entirely with your position J.E. It makes plenty of sense and mirrors positions held by other responsible gun owners that we focus not so much on the guns, for or against, but on what’s causing the violence. Thereby, being able to draw each side away from their extreme positions. Fair enough.
However, I’ll never be drawn from my position that the extreme firepower available and on the streets NOW and extreme ease of access to it NOW, needs extreme scrutiny NOW.
Most of us by now have heard of the eerie and similar incident yesterday in China where some 21 children were attacked and all survived because the attacker had only a knife. This is damn near a spiritual message to us.
Manny
Dec. 15th, 2012 at 4:51 pm
Ann must like hearing her own voice, what an idiot. There isn’t enough money for some school to have extracurricular activities, does Ann have an idea where the money would come from for shooting class 101?
Beaglemom
Dec. 15th, 2012 at 5:03 pm
Ann Coulter is a lunatic. No one should give her air time or print her drivel.
Gail
Dec. 15th, 2012 at 5:51 pm
Coulter is a twit who loves the sound of her own voice. We could publish a very thick book with all of her totally idiotic remarks!! Best seller.
Robert Gonzales
Dec. 15th, 2012 at 6:22 pm
We’re not all writers . Who can whip out bibles of info on our opinions. I still think the 2nd amendment is for all the people. The public should not be disarmed for any reason! Ridiculous To think Gun owners like to see anyone wrongfully killed. 1 or any. This is knee jerk law making.
Shiva (Moderator)
Dec. 15th, 2012 at 6:49 pm
Ann Coulter Suggests School Shooting Would Have Been Prevented if Kindergarteners had Guns
Reynardine
Dec. 15th, 2012 at 7:18 pm
The Second Amendment was never intended to apply to lunatics, felons, or minors. In fact, at the time it was written, it applied only to free, white, male, property-owning adults- those who could be called on to serve in the town constabulary, the “well-regulated militia” referred to. Practically, on the Frontier, women also had to be proficient in hunting and self-defense, even though women did not normally serve in posses. There was not then, and is not now, reason to allow unlimited carry, concealed or open, to all who demand it, wherever they want it, nor yet unlimited sale to aforesaid lunatics, minors, felons, drunkards, or those who have been under domestic violence or stalking injunctions or any kind of peace bond. I would add that the Second Amendment did not even contemplate breach-loading or repeating weapons, nor anything that wasn’t contemplated for use by the constabulary (such as cannons loaded with grapeshot). So I would urge you to reconsider the idea that this Amendment allows free carry into churches, schools, hospitals, and public assemblies.
Karl Leuba
Dec. 17th, 2012 at 9:20 am
Amendment II: “A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.”
Karl Leuba
Dec. 17th, 2012 at 9:22 am
WE have well regulated militias. Primary is the National Guard, open to any able bodied person who wishes to defend the nation.
Joey Acorns
Dec. 15th, 2012 at 6:48 pm
Gun control as it is, is only part of what needs to be done. Mental health outreach is horrible in the country (and both sides of the aisle have let it get this way since Pat Nixon championed releasing the mentally ill). What nobody talks about is the elephant in the room – mind altering mood drugs taken by almost everyone of these loner, disaffected, young white male killers (barring John Muhammad and his protege as possible exceptions). Teachers, parents and the medical profession push Ritalin and similar calming drugs for young boys since they do not know who to work with them. Colorado theater and this, along with many more incidents, all suffer from ADD, ADHD, Aspergers and other big pharma created maladies which are more of improper parenting/teaching/diagnosis than an actual ailment. Look up the stats on the amount of these drugs given to boys v. girls and the increase since the mid-70′s after Pat’s attack on the mental health industry (some rightly deserved BTW) The correlation is there. Is there a reason why this was almost nil prior to 1970, when young boys would get rifles and shotguns at much earlier ages than today?
Reynardine
Dec. 15th, 2012 at 7:34 pm
You are quite right that our mental health system sucks, and assuredly the moreso since Ronald Reagan defunded clinics and turned the lunatics out of the asylums. I’m not prepared to discuss the rest of it now.
by your side
Dec. 15th, 2012 at 10:58 pm
Joey, I have been in the medical profession for 35 years. I think you have a very limited amount of information that you are using to draw wide conclusions. Please learn more about the topics – ADHD ,ADD, etc., medications and why these crimes are committed by males. There is no simple answer for this type of tragedy. But there are solutions to all problems, just not easy ones, despite what Coulter says.
Joey Acorns
Dec. 15th, 2012 at 11:23 pm
By Your Side: Please enlighten me then on your professions answer to this: Since the mid-70′s, prescription for young males have skyrocketed WRT to “calming” drugs (ritalin, Prozac, Lexapro, etc.) More of those prescribed, more of these kind of incidents. I truly would like to know why you obviously think there is no causation between the two? I refused to allow my son to be forced into taking these drugs and he is now a quite happily married father of two young daughters. Some general information below about the need to reduce things like Adderall, Ritalin and Zoloft and how they are overprescribed.
www.scientificamerican.co...
www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/hes...
by your side
Dec. 16th, 2012 at 3:36 am
Joey,
The use of the medications you are talking about became popular in the 90′s. I have no information that other mass murderes had ADD/ADHA or were taking these medications at the time they committed their crimes. My information is that most mass murderes have other psychiatric problems like schizophrenia. I am not endorsing the use of these medications, I am saying that I have never seen any research that has draw the correlation you have. All medications have benefits and negatives and there are no perfectly safe medications. It is best to take no medication unless the benefilt will have the possiblity of producing a meaningful improvement, greater than 20% is my criteria. Why is it males? That is another question.
Joey Acorns
Dec. 16th, 2012 at 8:32 am
Even worse, outside of John Muhammad and his protege Malvo, why is it, in this country, almost exclusively white males who flip and become serial killers? Mr. Lanza was “apparently” diagnosed with ADHD/Aspergers as was the Colo Theater shooter. Almost everyone of these killers are highly intelligent and socially awkward. Exceptions can be found, like Ted Bundy, but the others all fit a pattern. Unfortunately in the case and many others, there will be no discussion of these drugs and their impact on the mental health of young boys. My personal opinion and while I appreciate stories from those who have used these successfully, they are some of the few that are never shown on TV because of their side effects. Thank you for reasoned responses. Enjoy your weekend!
Reynardine
Dec. 16th, 2012 at 1:06 pm
Culturally, it is only white males who are given the message (through all the media and not just their peers) that the use of violence is virtuous.
jaymi
Dec. 15th, 2012 at 7:30 pm
Can we euthanize this woman..? Please
Roy Simkins
Dec. 15th, 2012 at 7:30 pm
Ann Coulter is the true poster child of a dumb blonde. everything that comes out of her mouth is pure garbage and she does not deserve to be in the same classification as a human being.
Gil Asher
Dec. 15th, 2012 at 7:39 pm
The Conservative right is making a big thing out of this incident. This country has too many guns available for the nut-cases to get and use them.
Ann Coulter is a fricking bitch that should just shut her mouth, very much like mike Huckleberry and his God remarks.
R Beazley
Dec. 15th, 2012 at 7:43 pm
20 innocent children are dead and this cretin still breathes….There is no justice in this world.
Dog Gone at Penigma
Dec. 15th, 2012 at 7:54 pm
The facts have never mattered to Coulter. She is a media whore, who gins up controversy to make money, no matter how hateful or who is hurt by it.
Every once in a while the most vile among the right wing media rediscover some shred of decency, or at least the ability to pretend they have, when pushed back by the rest of the country who are horrified by them.
Facts are not the friend of conservatives.
Nice post Jason; happy holidays to you and yours, and hope the season finds you well. – DG
LeAnn
Dec. 15th, 2012 at 7:56 pm
Ann Coulter is a ridiculous, self-serving idiot and that is an insult to idiots all over the world.
D. W. Skinner
Dec. 15th, 2012 at 8:10 pm
The more people like her and Hannity and Rush and Beck talk… the more they damage the GOP. Let em talk. No one pays attention to em except the crackpots and flakes.
Dave
Dec. 15th, 2012 at 8:14 pm
“There’s always going to be crazy people in a country of 300 million people.” — Ann Coulter
Ann Coulter you represent the perfect example of crazy. Will you pose for our pro-choice poster?
Carla
Dec. 15th, 2012 at 8:31 pm
(M)Ann Coulter is a c-word.
Jim Loomis
Dec. 15th, 2012 at 8:32 pm
Ann Coulter is crazy … literally.
Dancertiffy
Dec. 15th, 2012 at 8:35 pm
so her answer to all of the carnage of the mass shootings is more guns for everybody?
Arm the students? Arm the teachers?
Coulter is a lunatic.
ZippityDoDah
Dec. 15th, 2012 at 8:41 pm
Could anyone link the actual point where Coulter say that children should be armed? You know, like the title of the “story” here?
I have a feeling I’ll be waiting longer than the waiting period for a pistol in NYC.
Keep running the way they want you to sheep.
Shiva (Moderator)
Dec. 15th, 2012 at 8:52 pm
“Ann Coulter suggested to Sean Hannity that the Sandy Hook school shooting would have been prevented if there would have been more guns at the school. Does this also apply to the two kindergarten classrooms where the victims were?”
Good grief, you didnt even read the title or the article. The Horra
texican
Dec. 15th, 2012 at 9:01 pm
Hmmm… seems most of the people here can’t address the argument, so retreat to ad hominem attacks.
Predators don’t fight predators… they prefer prey.
Beauzeaux
Dec. 16th, 2012 at 6:33 pm
I’d consider supporting six-year-olds with guns as soon as they can also drive a car, vote, drink, smoke, join the military, and get married.
There’s a reason why we don’t have kindergartners driving cars. The little buggers can’t be trusted. Teachers packing heat? How long before a gun is dropped, accidentally discharged, etc. etc.? This is one place where GUNS FOR EVERYBODY!! csannot work.
Shiva (Moderator)
Dec. 16th, 2012 at 6:40 pm
Can you say lawsuit? Stolen guns? dead fellow students? We have 8 year olds bringing guns to school, lets not give them another avenue to a gun
Michael Gallegos
Dec. 15th, 2012 at 9:15 pm
fuck you ann coulter your one stupid bitch!!!
Mandy
Dec. 15th, 2012 at 9:26 pm
Ann Coulter if you own a gun, which I’m sure you do, please use it on yourself. One less piece of garbage, spewing, hateful, piece of crap on earth would be great.
Reggie Rice
Dec. 15th, 2012 at 10:28 pm
Please sign my petition
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JJ
Dec. 15th, 2012 at 10:35 pm
Thank you for saying this. “People always look for the easy solution after mass murders. They think that if only we ban guns or give everyone guns, something like this will never happen again. It is a comforting thought, but it isn’t true. Everyone wants to believe that the killer was a bad apple, or the problem was the gun.
No one wants to think that the problem might be something in our society. People don’t want to face the fact that we may all have to look in the mirror and work together to end the violence.
But until our nation is ready to have a serious discussion, the violence will continue no matter what policy we have on guns.”
Vicki
Dec. 16th, 2012 at 12:43 am
She says that in a country of 300 million people there will always be crazies. I say takes one to know one. Why anyone listens to her I can’t imagine.
Mel
Dec. 16th, 2012 at 12:53 am
Coulter is a sick, crazy bitch and she should stop getting any attention at all.
Roxy-
Dec. 16th, 2012 at 2:29 am
Guns should be ok to have if you hunt, or you’re in the armed forces. No other reason. You wouldn’t need a gun to defend yourself if the bad person didn’t have a gun either. And IF for any reason they MUST have one, the age should be 25. When your frontal lobe develops.
stevansky
Dec. 16th, 2012 at 9:11 pm
If the bad people don’t have guns either? Do our laws prevent people from getting meth, cocaine, or heroin? NO?? The result will be the same with guns. Law abiding folks won’t have them while the criminal element will. They don’t give a damn about the laws of this land and never will.
Shiva (Moderator)
Dec. 16th, 2012 at 9:37 pm
The bulk of the murders with guns are not by bad people.
F
Dec. 16th, 2012 at 6:22 am
The writer, Jason Easley, admitting that he and others on the staff have guns (and are therefore pro gun,) takes the pro gun position but in a cowardly way, pretending that there is some kind of middle ground.
His is basically the same position as those who say that this is not the time to talk about gun control.
He writes:
“The problem is the violence. Gun policy factors into the degree of violence, but our national discussion gets so mired down in partisanship on guns that nobody is asking why this is happening in our society.”
No Jason, that’s all the Left is talking about, is the violence and it’s sources and causes. You sound like you want them to just shut up until this passes.
Reynardine
Dec. 16th, 2012 at 10:36 am
For there to be sides, there normally has to be a middle.
Beauzeaux
Dec. 16th, 2012 at 6:43 pm
There are a number of issues that, I submit, have no middle ground, only sides. Rape? Incest? Shooting school children?
And in many other isuues the “middle ground” is not equidistant from the sides. In the case of gun control, the middle is really somewhere around banning assault weapons while regulating hand guns. The NRA will see this as Armagedon. It will be a fight just to get that much.
Reynardine
Dec. 17th, 2012 at 6:44 am
Note I said, “normally”. There is no middle ground on genocide, for example, despite attempts to waffle with terms like “ethnic cleansing.” But in the realm of gun control, there is. We can allow the normal and prudent use of weapons by normal and prudent people under normal and prudent circumstances and keep assault weapons and rapid- fire or extended-fire devices out of civilian hands and any firearms out of the hands of lunatics, minors, felons, and people who have been under restraining orders or peace bonds for domestic violence, stalking, or other behavior posing threats of violence.
TStMauro
Dec. 16th, 2012 at 8:19 am
Yes, more guns. That’s definitely the answer. What could possibly go wrong? Coulter=Loon
Gabrielle Gilbert
Dec. 16th, 2012 at 8:56 am
Coulter is a LUNATIC with the intelligence of a box of spanners.. But she gets the publicity she craves every time it opens its crazy mouth…
Sam
Dec. 16th, 2012 at 9:49 am
Also, in Tucson, an armed civilian almost got shot himself, when he tried to intervene on the shooting of Rep. Gabby Giffords, and the others.
Shiva (Moderator)
Dec. 16th, 2012 at 10:25 am
I think you mean a person trying to give assistance to Gabby was almost shot by an armed citizen
Further
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Amber
Dec. 16th, 2012 at 10:23 am
So I was watching the documentry ( Zeitgeist Moving Forward ) and in it discussed how to drop the violence in our country. They said if we were a more equal country and poverty disappeared, we could drop the violence by 95%. I think instead of talking about guns, we need to start talking about a solution to end violence instead.
Reynardine
Dec. 16th, 2012 at 11:07 am
Maybe we need to pay attention to both.
diane fortuna
Dec. 16th, 2012 at 10:23 am
Ann Coulter is totally mad and should repeat these comments to the grieving parents in person. I would hope they rip her to shreds.
Mary
Dec. 16th, 2012 at 11:38 am
This sicko is a childless drag queen .She has neither heart,soul or brain.She needs to be admitted to a mental health facility,like many of the other haters.
Donnie
Dec. 16th, 2012 at 2:48 pm
Ann Coulter: Evidence that some adults still prefer the great taste of paint chips from the window sill.
Stevansky
Dec. 16th, 2012 at 9:01 pm
Banning guns is not the answer. Has it worked for drugs, prohibition, MURDER?? The drug laws have only made it harder for legitimate patients to get medicines while the criminal element goes business as usual. Same thing during prohibition. Guns will be no different. Trying to ban them will only make it difficult for hunters, and those trying to protect their families and their homes while those desiring them for nefarious reasons will still have them. They might have to rob, steal, and pawn more stuff from the disarmed to do so, but what would they care?
Shiva (Moderator)
Dec. 16th, 2012 at 9:36 pm
You wrongly assume that everyone wants guns banned. You should worry about losing assault rifles though. You are like a druggie demanding that pot doesnt hurt you when no one is talking aboutn doing away with pot
stevansky
Dec. 16th, 2012 at 9:21 pm
You must be a very busy busybody shiva. Your delete button probably has to be replaced daily! lol Guess free speech only applies to someone who agrees with you or has no reasoning skills. Have a nice day! ;-)
Shiva (Moderator)
Dec. 16th, 2012 at 9:30 pm
I just got here from being out in the kitchen. I see you have several posts waiting for moderation. It seems you jumped the gun didnt you. I will keep your words in mind as I read them. They better conform to my ideal as you say.
BTW, free speech does not apply on other peoples property.
Samantha
Dec. 17th, 2012 at 12:35 am
What about violent video games? Why is that not being discussed? Children grow up in a society where they can “safely” use a gun to murder people and feel NOTHING. What do you thinkg will happen to some of them (and I do only mean some of them) when the get an actual gun in their hands.
This problem is bigger than just gun control (not banning), this problem is bigger than mental health help – this is a societal problem and we have to work together to fix this
nomad
Dec. 17th, 2012 at 3:35 am
I agree.
Besides video games, you might add the amount of graphic violence that we allow children to watch. I have curtailed much of my television watching, but the other day I happened to catch the first show of “Walking Dead” and I was shocked to see the image of a policeman shooting a zombie child in the head. The irresponsible manner it was shown (slow-mo, with blood spattering) was extremely (and unnecessarily) graphic. The whole zombie theme is about shooting people we don’t consider to be “really” human. How is that any different than what these attackers think?
Is this what we allow young people to watch?? No wonder there are problems in the society. I recall a time when some parents thought the Three Stooges was too violent for children.
tom
Dec. 17th, 2012 at 1:43 pm
Dumb article which takes a statement and twists it to ridiculous levels. Clearly there is a possibility if a teacher or staff member had been armed at th every least there might have been the potential to stop some / all of the killings. Noone was armed and no killings were stopped, it’s tragic. Politically neither side is offering a solution, the left wanting to put more control on all citizens certainly will not solve the problem with this, let alone make it any better, in fact all they are doing is putting the right on defense with the statements they issue which means neither side is actually addressing the problem in more creative ways, perhaps a way that law abiding americans do not have to lose rights.
Shiva (Moderator)
Dec. 17th, 2012 at 1:55 pm
And clearly the opportunity existed for more kids to die with a second weapon going off in the classrooms. The man with the assault rifle is generally going to have the upper hand. Would he have done what he did if he knew all of the teachers were armed? That’s a question we will never know what the answer is.
tom
Dec. 17th, 2012 at 2:04 pm
clearly a second weapon going off could cause more damage? is this a serious statement? Really, teachers or staff of a school would actually shoot at the kids? I highly doubt that. The problem here is not guns but society and if both sides politically could stop throwing bombs at one another we may actually be able to get something done which can at least try to address the problem.
Frankly I don’t know why metal detectors are not at every place where masses of people congregate but especially at schools that would cost some money but we put lots of money into other things and this one thing could prevent this or prevent the majority of these types of things without costing a single american their rights.
Shiva (Moderator)
Dec. 17th, 2012 at 2:30 pm
I suppose you could explain why the New York Police Department shot nine civilians trying to kill one man in front of the Empire State building
And yes it is extremely possible that a second gun could kill more kids. You are making the assumption that the teacher would have the jump on the shooter which may or may not be the case. And if they were using semi automatic weapons it is very easily understandable how more kids could be shot.
[email protected]
Dec. 17th, 2012 at 4:35 pm
Tight security at the entrance to the school would be the better solution. Do you really think a person who illegally possesses a gun to commit murder will buy Insurance? Get real. Crimes committed with guns each day are generally bought through the “undeground” market or stolen. Step back and look how society has changed in the past 30 years and you will see why we are having these issues. This generation has no coping skills to deal with adversity or rejection. Hollywood glamorizes violence and immorality. TV shows portray the Father as an idiot. Drugs, out of wedlock births, single Moms and Grandparents raising out of control kids….Shall I continue?
David Perry
Dec. 17th, 2012 at 10:02 pm
it seems to me, as a gun owner, the problem is not whether or not more or less guns would help…the question you must look at is, economic conditions of the invidiual, mental illness, what type of upbringing did he have, what external influences made him the person he turned out to be…there is a middle ground, but unfortunately no one is willing to discuss it….the total ban on weapons won’t work, because, guns are readily available to anyone who wants one….arming the teachers, is completely irrational….and arming the kids is just nothing short of ludicrius….there has to be an answer…i just don’t know what it is…..
marilyn logiudice
Dec. 18th, 2012 at 11:22 am
How can anyone listen to Ann? Let alone pay her for stupidlty? Maybe she should have been at the school and her comments would change.Listening to her is like watching violence or listening to music that presents the same.Total ignorance! Another devil in disguise. Where are the values in life today? This is not God’s fault either! Why wouldn’t these weapons locked up by his mother knowing her child has mental problems? Out of sight,out of mind! Why did she buy just prior to this happening? There are so many why’s and so much blame-Time to strenghten your faith and hard to do when you lose a loved one.The first question always asked, is “why God” I recently just did the same when I lost a beloved one.To many unanswered questions with this and to sorrowful causing more anger and more people buying weapons to protect themselves.The people in this world will wind up killing all and destroying the world-not God.He gave us free will.Those children are with him-you cannot get into Heaven unless you become like a child!God Bless to all the families and praise the children and adults loss to this.Listening to Ann,Fox,and such is like co-signing violence.Wouldn’t waste my time to the cold blooded.
V
Dec. 21st, 2012 at 10:23 pm
And they say *liberalism* is a mental disorder? Coulter should be locked into a padded room, alongside her comrades in Doublespeak Media.
Linda
Dec. 22nd, 2012 at 1:46 pm
On the Today show, she described the 9/11 widows,
“These broads are millionaires, lionized on TV and in articles about them, reveling in their status as celebrities and stalked by grief-arazzis. I’ve never seen people enjoying their husbands’ death so much. These self-obsessed women seem genuinely unaware that 9-11 was an attack on our nation and acted as if the terrorist attack only happened to them.”
D. Hunnel
Dec. 23rd, 2012 at 3:39 pm
I hope I’m not the only one to point out that her assertion is ridiculous — concealed carry permits have, statistically, NEVER had any significant impact on situations like this — and anyone who thinks otherwise is part of the problem. Statistically, 98.5 percent (plus or minus 0.3 percent) of every attempt by someone carrying a concealed weapon, to interfere in this kind of event, has resulted in that “hero” getting shot and usually killed. The massive availability of even more weapons totally offsets ANY “benefit” of having them for “protection”.