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Beware of Creepy Rape Van Guy and His Pick Up Artist Cult
In case you were wondering why there’s been an onslaught of bitter, still-virginal young “men” operating under the belief that you’ll go out with them if only they insult you the right way, there’s a reason for this trend.
They might be fresh out of a very expensive class by “Pick Up Artist” “Jeffy” Allen, explained by Katie J.M. Baker at Jezebel as such:
Jeff “Jeffy” Allen is a big league pick-up artist instructor who has published multiple books and DVDs on the craft of treating women like shiny gold coins in a video game. He’s also the owner of San Francisco’s well-known “Freedom Van,” which he calls his “rape van,” and a pathetically avid OkCupid troll. Please stay far, far away from him.
Jeffy has been sucking the sweetness out of geeky boys since 2002, and filling it with wannabe bad boy boldness, albeit ironically sans the raw tenderness beneath the bad boy exterior that is the actual honey, but you can’t fix stupid.
“Jeffy is an instructor for Tyler Durden’s company – Real Social Dynamics. He is best known for his work on the seminar series “The Jeffy Show” and also his book “9-ball”, both published and released by RSD. Also, “Despite a traumatic childhood, Jeffy has risen to become one of the best PUAs (Pick Up Artists) in the industry.” Translation: In desperateville, alleged pick up artists have been teaching insecure virgins to be a huge douchebags so that they can get laid.
Said pick up artist charges between $169 / $269 for a DVD of him offering up the gold:
Jeffy Quotes
Irrelevant. Time to f*ck!
Cut the shit. Time to f*ck!
[Insert excuse here]. Time to f*ck!
At RSD, they teach men that women will put up fake defenses against sex, which might explain why that seemingly nice young man who asked you out in a bizarrely aggressive way also thought that it was his job to have sex with you even if you didn’t want it:
Before sex, anti-slut defense often manifests as token resistance put up by the woman to demonstrate that they resisted the sexual advances, which helps absolve them of their guilt of sex, which originates mostly from social programming. Post-sex ASD often involves justifications for the sex act: “It just happened,” “he wouldn’t give up,” “I was really drunk,” etc. PUAs should take this tendency of women into consideration, and make sex as easy for her as possible by taking the lead and responsibility for sex, and providing her with convenient excuses for sleeping with them.
If Jeffy’s real life dating experience on OkCupid is anything to go on, if the girl rejects his douchey advances or even just douchey date, the guy should tell her she’s fat. Watch Jeffy model this winning behavior after being rejected on OkCupid:
Jeffy, proving himself to be a Real Man, “Why am I not surprised. Eat a bag of dicks” “Also, I guarantee your date with me would be far more horrifying than these last two amateurs you went out with. I drive a fucking RAPE VAN. Ps you’re fat.” This is the guy teaching other guys how to be “confident”, because apparently confident men act like spoiled losers when they don’t get what they want right now.
Here’s a hint to those who’ve wasted money morhping from awkward but charming to Supreme Douche ala Jeffy: We see you.
We know that you are not asking us out because you love our minds. We know that as much as you complain that girls don’t like nice guys, you really wouldn’t know because you are not very nice to girls. But we cut you slack because we know that you don’t even know that you objectify women as you complain about how they won’t see past your exterior. She must be HOT and NICE, whereas you need be neither.
If she won’t give you hot and nice, then you’ll pout and call her ugly and fat. Maybe throw in “whore” for good measure, which makes absolutely no sense except that you fear that she is giving it to everyone but you, which is certainly possible (read “probable” if you are anything like Jeffy). Apparently after displaying these juvenile hysterics, Jeffy’s cult will be almost like a real man, only without honor, dignity and character (attractive traits a geek often has on his own, without paying anyone).
At any rate, this is a public service announcement about rape van guy in San Fransisco, but also his devotees. Beware: Just because the guy is “dark” and different doesn’t mean he’s better. “Quirky” can be sick, too, though Jeffy gets points for not having a shot gun on the floor next to him as he laughs about raping a dead girl. Just not enough points.
Related issue: It looks like the Senate passed the Violence Against Women Act, but then it will go to the Republican led House to die so that Jeffy and his rape van are protected.
Geeky boys, you are better than Jeffy. Really.
Image: Jeffy’s “rape van” via MissionMission
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Reynardine
Feb. 1st, 2013 at 4:06 pm
In the long ago, when I was a pup, these same frustrated geeks used to try to be suave by watching Bond movies, talking about Scotch, and conveying, “You may *kiss* my fingertips if you’re good, Miss Moneypenny!” Then, as now, that will only attract sick, vicious chicks who’ll rip your guts out before you can do it to them.
And a guy who responded like the example you quoted *would* have had me packing heat.
RMuse
Feb. 1st, 2013 at 5:10 pm
There have always been creeps like this. He should feel fortunate to live in a land of law-abiding citizens.
Shiva(Moderator)
Feb. 1st, 2013 at 5:47 pm
Well if women liked nice guys I would be busy 24/7. And that’s just my opinion!
There are men with inferiority complex’s that glorify this type of crap. Easy picking for the sharp guys who know how to take advantage of people.
Dobie Gray and “Im in with the in crowd” comes to mind
galactusX
Feb. 1st, 2013 at 7:05 pm
I almost stopped reading at the line “sucking the sweetness out of geeky boys…but then I read the rest. I am wondering if the Second Amendment geeks are going to defend this piece of shits First Amendment right to be an asshole.
Anne
Feb. 1st, 2013 at 7:58 pm
Whoever swallows this sick, twisted nonsense must be truly desperate. He’s encouraging these men to act like Neanderthals and to regard women as just potential “lays.” There seems to be a total absence of the kind of respect that would prompt him to see women as fellow human beings who don’t need to be put on a pedestal or to be belittled. One thing is certain: he cannot hide his insecurity.
Shiva(Moderator)
Feb. 1st, 2013 at 9:04 pm
Wow! Here we have the only person that matters!
Elizabeth 44
Feb. 1st, 2013 at 9:56 pm
I foresee some guys who spent a lot of money and now can’t figure out why no woman will date him twice.
Reynardine
Feb. 1st, 2013 at 10:58 pm
And why is that a PedoBear on his van?
Robo
Feb. 1st, 2013 at 11:54 pm
The real sad thing is what he teaches is right. I am the nice guy who wants the person I go with to have a good time. My friend David can walk up to a woman tell her how nasty she is and they leave with him and will also put out for the group he has around him. He has proven this over and over again.
Reynardine
Feb. 2nd, 2013 at 6:06 am
Believe me, you wouldn’t want those women.
Anne
Feb. 2nd, 2013 at 8:14 am
It says every bit as much about any woman who would fall for his sick games as it does about him and the members of the group around him. If you are a nice guy, why do you hang around with a creep like him?
j
Feb. 2nd, 2013 at 1:25 pm
if i had to guess, i’d say that robo is occasionally one of “the group” being “put out for”. he hangs with the creep because it gets him laid, and because he can’t figure out how to do better.
Rosalind
Feb. 2nd, 2013 at 2:21 pm
Aargh, accidentally gave Robo thumbs up instead of down. Robo, have you tried asking out girls who are smart, nice, and maybe do not fit your idea of “hot”?
sueinca
Feb. 2nd, 2013 at 2:48 pm
This is very disturbing. As a lifetime SF Giants fan, I already wrote a letter to their front office. They may not be able to stop him from using the SFGiants logo but they can sure disavow him in public. Giving them the benefit of the doubt that they are not aware before I blow my stack lol.
inez
Feb. 2nd, 2013 at 9:48 pm
Don’t forget , ladies, you have HIV or STD that you hope they don’t mind sharing it with you. It’s very hard to get sympathy from guys! HA HA HA HA HA HA>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Juan Manuel
Feb. 5th, 2013 at 3:47 pm
Women DO dig assholes, not because they’re assholes, but because they have the traits of an attractive man.
How many facebook, twitter and forums posts aren’t there of women wondering why they fell for that bad guy and why they can’t get their mind out of him? And why it ALWAYS happens to them AGAIN?
Women would tell you they want a man who treats them right, be respectful, makes them feel safe, etc… but they’d never tell you the other part of the story: they dig adventure, expectation, uncertainty, confidence, leadership… They don’t tell you that saying yes to all of her demands and being predictable is boring and unnatractive, or when they are teasing you and not rejecting you and so on.
Put a picture of a nice, average-looking guy with a confy house a house and an apparent good economical status against that of a guy with a half-grown beard, barely combed long hair, a pair of jeans a leather jacket, cool sun glasses mounted over a Harley-Davidson and honestly tell me who you’d pick.
Going to my initial point: women dig bad guys, even assholes, because they have the traits that make men attractive to them: confidence, unpredictability, leadership, intelligence and so on…
Trying to teach a nice guy how to become an attractive man involves a lot of social de-programming. These PUA’s take an unethical shortcut: just go to the other extreme and be a bad guy.
I know because I was a nice guy who didn’t understand women and I learned to be an attractive man and I got laid with mentally-healthy, attractive women in open relationships. And I’m happily married and I’m not an asshole to my wife nor I’d ever cheat on her.
The secret is to remove the asshole factor out of the equation, but courting women while being honest and respectful it’s challenging because, women are socially programmed too: they won’t get to know you if you don’t immedeatly look like a keeper on first sight.
PUA’s are not bad for society: unethical people…