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The Biggest Fools of All Are the Progressives Who Cheered on Rand Paul
By: RmuseMar. 10th, 2013more from Rmuse
An ideology is a comprehensive vision, and a way of looking at things, that when practiced by an adherent who is uncompromising and dogmatic, although commendable in terms of integrity to a cause, can do more harm than good if left unchecked. Ideologues are the bane of pragmatists who take a practical approach to problem solving, and are concerned primarily with the success or failure of actions based on reality, and not an ideological abstract. The current incarnation of the Republican Party is defined by ideologues that campaigned on a platform of bringing government to a halt, and their governance abstinence has wreaked havoc on America, but they are only in power because other ideologues ushered them into the halls of Congress.
An argument can be made that EmoProgs are the Left’s answer to Republican’s teabaggers because their allegiance to causes that defy reality have not aided in advancing the greater liberal or progressive platform. Early in President Obama’s first term, what was labeled the professional left dug their heels in on issues that would never gain acceptance by mainstream politicians, or the American people, regardless how noble and altruistic their particular agenda may have been. The result was so-called liberal pundits actively campaigning for Democratic voters to sit out the 2010 midterm elections that gave the teabaggers easy victories and access to positions of power the country will suffer from for at least a decade, and that is not including the damage a non-functioning government has had on the economy and the people’s general welfare.
The 13-hour self-promotional Rand Paul filibuster on the floor of the Senate drew rave reviews from emoprogs who assailed President Obama for using unmanned drones to strike al Qaeda leadership and avowed enemies of the United States intent on indiscriminately killing American citizens on American soil. The controversy quickly morphed into accusations that the President would use drones to kill American citizens on American soil, and it was that issue Paul raised and railed on during his filibuster of John Brennan’s nomination as head of the CIA. Attorney General Eric Holder felt obliged to reply to Paul and said, “Does the President have the authority to use a weaponized drone to kill an American not engaged in combat on American soil? The answer to that question is no.” However, Holder said the President does have authority to use military force against American citizens on US soil—but only in “an extraordinary circumstance,” that George Washington and Abraham Lincoln exercised during the “Whiskey Rebellion” and Civil War respectively, but those were indeed extraordinary circumstances.
Pundits on the left railed on liberals for failing to embrace Paul’s promotional filibuster as being “embarrassingly hypocritical” because they cannot comport his position on most issues, but emoprogs are hypocritical because their ideological bent fuels support for conservative agendas they claim to oppose. This Rand Paul character liberal pundits claim progressives should join opposes the ERA, supports the religious right’s belief biblical law should replace the Constitution, opposed the VAWA, civil rights, and in a hypocritical outrage, opposes government regulations he preached were needed to hold the President accountable for killing terrorists intent on murdering innocent Americans. One has to wonder how targeting enemy combatants on foreign soil morphed into charges the President will use drones to kill innocent Americans on American soil.
There has been a phalanx of EmoProgs who have assailed the President for all manner of imagined sleights against their sensibilities, and it informs the sad state of many ensconced in the professional left. The President was hardly in office when outrage erupted from emoprogs because he failed to close Guantanamo, repeal DADT, strike down DOMA, include a public option in the ACA, and repeal NDAA that all necessitated Congressional action irrespective of the President’s wishes. The President has been, and still is, accused of single-handedly imprisoning and torturing Bradley Manning despite the soldier’s guilty plea of stealing and passing sensitive information he knew was a violation of military and intelligence security protocols. It leads one to wonder if Emos understand a President leads the Executive Branch and follows the Constitution’s provisions of government operation, or that the United States Congress makes laws, or do they believe the president is a dictator unaccountable to the Constitution he swore to “preserve, protect and defend” when he was sworn in office.
It is difficult to comprehend why Emos assail President Obama for following the Constitution’s mandates for governance, but it may be they misunderstand the political makeup of the population. Americans are not hard left Progressives, or even left-leaning Centrists, and although this country would benefit greatly if it were, Americans are at best right-leaning Centrists and expect their leaders to govern accordingly. If the President campaigned as a staunch Progressive, Willard Romney would have begun eviscerating the nation before Emos knew what hit them, and at the rate they assail President Obama, one would think he was Romney. What is curious though, is the support many on the left have given Rand Paul despite his well-known, and well-publicized, stance on issues that are repulsive to even right-leaning Centrists; but there they were, heaping praise on Paul and anointing his “so-called” bipartisanship that he rightly used in a fundraising letter as he weighs a run for president in 2016.
Regarding the use of drones to kill avowed terrorist hell-bent on indiscriminately murdering Americans because they are Americans, the world is a dangerous place, and there are national security issues EmoProgs, and most Americans, are not privy to and that is how it should be. If any American expects the President to run to the people and ask permission go forward on actionable intelligence before launching a strike on al Qaeda, they are as deluded as expecting him to unilaterally circumvent Congress and repeal laws, or torture soldiers guilty of stealing secret defense data and handing it to the press. It is not to say there are not legitimate concerns about the some of the President’s policies, or that it is not within the public’s purview to ask hard questions, but making an issue out of the “possibility” of him launching drone attacks on innocent citizens on American soil; that is what violent militias stocking their armories for civil war sit and fret about as they wallow in conspiracy theories promoted by the NRA and hate groups.
President Obama is never going to be all things to all people, especially emoprogs, but he is attempting to balance his agenda with the will of the people and despite perpetual harping by the professional left, he has followed through on most of his promises within the confines of the Constitution; even if they failed to occur within the first week of his first term. It is frustrating to sit and watch the same malcontents that handed the 2010 midterms to teabaggers support Rand Paul over a “hypothetical scenario” with no basis in fact, but it was also difficult watching emoprogs assail the President for not usurping Congress, issuing unconstitutional edicts, and sitting home while teabaggers gained control of the nation.
There are real issues the left can coalesce behind besides Rand Paul’s fundraising efforts, and with unified support for clean energy, jobs, saving safety nets, and increased education funding; real Progressive goals, it is possible even Emos would be satisfied. Emoprogs need instant gratification borne of ideological purity, but they will not find it in Rand Paul, Bradley Manning, or attacking President Obama over hypothetical scenarios and conspiracy theories, because they followed that route before and gave America ideologues that broke Congress and are on the verge of breaking America.
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Michael W Gooch
Mar. 10th, 2013 at 7:09 pm
I could only read so far. The EMOPRogs only exist because our democratic president has gotten to cozy and played to fair with the GOP. Obama should have stopped at nothing to get the public option even if it cost him his life. Kennedy and Lincoln paid with their lives for doing what was right. Soldiers are asked to give their lives for fools’ errands. A president should be willing to give his for a noble cause.
BetsyLou
Mar. 10th, 2013 at 7:55 pm
What was Kennedy doing that was so radical that it cost him his life?
Your rhetoric pretty much makes the article’s point more succinctly that the author did. You really think a public option right this very minute is worth Obama’s LIFE? Haven’t you noticed that Republicans have been trying to get the ACA we have repealed on an almost-daily basis? How would a public option have fared?
I honestly thought the author was exaggerating, but you proved him right.
Michael W Gooch
Mar. 10th, 2013 at 8:05 pm
Was bipartisanship worth the lives of those who have died as a result of no coverage. If you think so then you might as well have murdered them your self.
As to what Kennedy was trying to you’ll have to do your own research.
Churchlady
Mar. 10th, 2013 at 8:11 pm
If you were too stupid NOT to get them covered via the High Risk Pool that was touted in every paper and on TV, then YOU KILLED THEM. Arrogance and ideological purity KILLED ANYONE YOU DID NOT HELP.
Murderer!
Linda1961
Mar. 11th, 2013 at 6:27 am
“As to what Kennedy was trying to you’ll have to do your own research.”
You make the statement, be prepared to back it up, don’t ask others to do that for you.
Proud American First
Mar. 11th, 2013 at 10:45 am
You know its funny how blind so many are….
You have people shooting themselves in the head because going homeless after 30 years of working their tail off they lost their job, exhausted their UI and spend their savings…but sure way way to stick up for the right to drone americans while killing them off slowly…..
Cyberduckie
Mar. 11th, 2013 at 2:14 pm
What obnoxious and, at this point, predictable hyperbole! Take a civics class and then maybe you’ll figure out how government works.
Churchlady
Mar. 10th, 2013 at 8:18 pm
Kennedy was going to pull out of Vietnam. It is possible that those with huge vested interests in securing that country’s resources and its culture for US military, industrial, and Dominionist interests conspired with rogue CIA agents to kill Kennedy. There is shockingly large amounts of evidence to support that analysis.
But Gooch has the earmarks of someone who just firebombs and cannot produce facts. He may be correct – but he never put ANYTHING on the line – you can tell from his screed – and is too happy to sacrifice others. He’s not telling YOU because he can’t back up what he says. The fact he may be correct is sheer, dumb luck. Ignore him. The easiest book to read on this is David Lifton’s “Best Evidence”. It got way too little attention and still holds up.
Just A Dumb Fireman
Mar. 11th, 2013 at 8:51 am
Kenedy’s crime was that he wasn’t too keen on having Israel dictate US foreign policy.
Churchlady
Mar. 10th, 2013 at 7:59 pm
Spoken like someone who never EVER sacrificed a single thing for a cause. Bet you think you’re a ‘victim’ though.
There was a public option – the High Risk Pool – that saved tens of thousands only EmoProgs needed it to be LABELED that to use it. Some – first hand experience so this is a FACT – let friends DIE rather than refer them to the Pool. Second of all – the system is identical to how France, Germany, and Switzerland built their universal health care – and still run it. “SICKO” did not reveal that. But I do health care policy and know that is a FACT.
So while you’re deciding that this ONE trick pony of yours warrants presidential assassination, you happen to be WRONG that he had no public option, you happen to be IGNORANT of facts, and you are also illiterate. So go away. You have no cred. This president is NOT playing with the GOP but listening and using his power of office to secure policies that are radically altering the past 40 years of pro corporate change. But you’d never know that – it would take real thought, insight, and attention. Your knee jerk hollering is soooo much more helpful. BTW – where were you in the Clinto years while HE was shredding the Social Compact, hmmmm?
Michael W Gooch
Mar. 10th, 2013 at 8:09 pm
You can think whatever the hell you want about me. It sounds like there may be some projection going on.
Your president capitulated on the PO because he values the opinion of the GOP more than the lives of constituents.
Shiva(Moderator)
Mar. 10th, 2013 at 8:46 pm
” Your president capitulated on the PO because he values the opinion of the GOP more than the lives of constituents.”
Now thats projection
And quite asinine
Churchlady
Mar. 10th, 2013 at 10:53 pm
Gooch – there IS a Public Option. So he can’t have ‘capitulated’ now can he? It’s people like you, the lazy, the obsessed, the literalists, who capitulate to sloppy thinking, and to lies. You LIE since there IS a public option. Now wherever the states refuse to provide health insurance, the feds WILL and one of the options will be – tah dah – PUBLIC. So eat your words, ducky. You don’t know a thing, and you are a total knee-jerk liar full of sound and fury signifying nothing at all.
Cha
Mar. 10th, 2013 at 8:06 pm
The Emos exist because they don’t give a shite about reality.
baggers on the left.
labrat
Mar. 10th, 2013 at 8:07 pm
I agree with you, however, nothing short of martial law, how was President Obama supposed to succeed in this? The first Black, the racial hatred, anything to see him fail as opposed to truly putting the good of the citizenry they “respresent.”
In other news, Jeb Bush said today that history will be kind and/or look favorably on brother double-ewwww. Yeah, sure.
No printable words as to what these peple are doing to us.
SinghX
Mar. 11th, 2013 at 8:03 am
Jeb Bush also said, the day after the 08′ election, that the the GOP should start a secession movement, leave America…basically start a civil war and do a land grab for themselves.(If I would locate the link I would post; you try to find the link, it’s been wiped out…but I remember it clearly!)
He, or one of his family members, also said something to about how the Bush Family won’t/doesn’t live as a part of history…no,no…that they, the Bush Family mold or control history to their liking. It was one of the most egregious, arrogant things I’ve ever heard…
nabsentia23
Mar. 11th, 2013 at 8:31 am
The Bush Family sees itself as an American aristocracy and not much else. I’ve always believed them to be the most undemocratic of any political dynasty our country has ever produced.
This is why the Bushes “Texas roots” are dubious. They moved to Texas because they knew they couldn’t win elections as they really are…Eastern Establishment Bluebloods. GWB’s Texas accent doesn’t change that. And when their “Texas” disguise doesn’t work, they play dirty politics.
Whenever any of them appear on the national level, our politics always takes a turn for the worse.
Reynardine
Mar. 11th, 2013 at 11:14 am
There is a site that archives this disappearing stuff
My old phone crashed, but I think I sent a link to Walkaway.
RJJB
Mar. 10th, 2013 at 8:08 pm
A public option would never have gotten out of a Congressional committee, much less a vote, and there would be no healthcare reform. Congress makes laws, and regardless a President’s death wish, it has always been Congress.
Churchlady
Mar. 10th, 2013 at 10:55 pm
There always WAS a public option in the High Risk Pool. It just wasn’t CALLED that, but EmoProgs can’t deal with anything that isn’t literal.
nabsentia23
Mar. 11th, 2013 at 8:24 am
The last time I checked, Rand Paul was a member of the GOP. So if Emoprogs are so principled, then why are they cozying up to him?
Why should I support a man who doesn’t give a damn about the civil liberties of nonwhites and women? The dude was trolling. Plain and simple. He’s a neo-confederate who’s concern for drones wasn’t even geniune! He admitted it!
Once again, we have a situation where emoprogs look at the cause and ignore the context. If they had understood the context of Paul’s comments, they wouldn’t have been fooled. They would have seen his filibuster as the cynical, publicity stunt, and fundraising ploy it was.
Bobby Allison
Mar. 11th, 2013 at 11:27 am
Easier said than done, especially when its not YOUR ASS that’s on the line. Try to progress beyond 1960s ideology.
Bridgett Cash
Mar. 11th, 2013 at 1:57 pm
You believe the POTUS should give his life for a public health care option? Your insane.
Sherlock
Mar. 11th, 2013 at 2:01 pm
Michael
What are you willing to give your life for?
Sherlock
carrie
Mar. 10th, 2013 at 7:11 pm
I love how they pretend anyone who doesn’t agree with them is an idiot while they are the people who got the teatards elected in the first place. Those teatards are doing a lot of damage to the country!
Palemoon
Mar. 10th, 2013 at 7:17 pm
Yet another attempt to hijack movements by conservatives. I object to your choice of words, inferring that they are emo or emoprogs. They are not and never have been. Rather, they are Republicans too ashamed to call themselves Republicans. Or simply plants whose job it is to divide and conquer for the good of the Republican party. I have met many fake progressives in the past couple of years.
Churchlady
Mar. 10th, 2013 at 8:02 pm
They are the same as the Fifth Columnists who pretended to be progressive but secretly supported dictator Franco and rose to his support betraying their allies. No difference between these folks and Fifth Columnists many of whom have very checkered backgrounds and VERY dubious ‘progressive’ credentials.
Patty Call
Mar. 11th, 2013 at 12:45 am
Is Glenn Greenwald, who was widely celebrated in Democratic circles when he was going after Bush, an imaginary emoprog too? lol
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It’s amazing how hysterically funny this whole emoprog labeling is and yet at the same time so sad that anyone would be foolish enough to buy into it.
nabsentia23
Mar. 11th, 2013 at 8:35 am
Glen Greenwald is a libertarian. And just because liberalism and libertarianism share the same first 5 letters doesn’t mean they are the same thing.
nabsentia23
Mar. 11th, 2013 at 9:15 am
In case you are wondering what the difference is between liberalism and libertarianism, here’s a clue:
Liberals have evolved and adapted to the significant changes our country has been through within the last 230 years. Libertarians still think it’s 1789.
Besides, Glenn has no problem when his hero Julian Assange evades due process, but he’s all of a sudden angry with Obama over drones? Julian Assange is a perfect example of the complexities of extradition law I mention to lefties who complain about the drone program. And Greenwald is just as inconsistent here as he is with everything else he says.
Just A Dumb Fireman
Mar. 11th, 2013 at 9:00 am
Thank you for bringing that up – and almost half of the population of this idiot country would love to see an authoritarian like Franco installed here!
Reynardine
Mar. 10th, 2013 at 8:08 pm
In fact, I have long suspected a number of these firebaggers of being plants, moles, and agents provocateurs. The remainder are as surely their patsies.
nabsentia23
Mar. 11th, 2013 at 8:33 am
Actually, I think many are true progressives, but they are so busy dreaming and chasing one cause after the cause that they get fooled. They don’t see how their behavior actually helps conservatives.
Reynardine
Mar. 11th, 2013 at 10:21 am
Those are the patsies.
snarky ailes
Mar. 10th, 2013 at 7:32 pm
with the gop devouring themselves, these outliers would be best served by just getting out of the way… best part was grumpy mcslam and his pal lindsey, beating them down the next day on the senate floor. that was huge.
BetsyLou
Mar. 10th, 2013 at 7:49 pm
Drone Warfare makes me queasy– are the deaths of the innocent just going to perpetuate the cycle of extremism, producing new leaders as quickly as we can bomb them?
But if I had to decide between drone attacks, invasions, or doing nothing in the hopes that I could “nice” my way into not being attacked… what else can he do?
There’s a reason why presidents age so quickly.
And nothing– NOTHING– Obama has done could make me support anyone with the political positions of a Rand Paul. I wouldn’t care if he walked on water the next time he filibusters.
Churchlady
Mar. 10th, 2013 at 8:09 pm
Drones were selected precisely to reduce civilian casualties that we were producing with bombs. It is an effort, not a solution. But it IS an effort.
We MUST be discussing the march to war that this nation has engaged in for the past 68 years until now. We have the first president since WW II to overturn the mandate of the National Security Memo #68 that required presidents and Congress to intervene MILITARILY when any other nation hiccups. That’s NOT what this administration is doing anymore. SEA CHANGE. The role Sec’y Clinton played was to intervene as often as possible in negotiated settlements AND in actions that were sanctioned by our allies, not unilateral action by just the U.S. SEA CHANGE.
This has to be ratified into an entirely new national security policy that no longer mandates we kill people.
We need to be discussing WAR and the limits to war – not the hardware. EmoProgs and Randists are diverting you from this much larger issue. And Rand while, like his Daddy, says we should not go to war, they WANT corporations to be free to engage in private actions to secure their private claims. So don’t be sucked into that one. They aren’t anti-war. They are pro PRIVATE MERCENARY actions.
Focus. Focus. Focus.
Jeff R
Mar. 10th, 2013 at 10:25 pm
I could not agree LESS with the author’s assertion that Progressives should never agree or say that anything an ideological enemy says is correct.
This precisely how the Rightists have balled up the legislative process in this country since the President was elected.
We all know that for more than four year there has not been a rightist in Congress that would support any proposal the President supported unless their gonads were in a vice and perhaps not even then.
We have all witnessed the belligerent opposition to bills that rightists themselves introduced (i.e. Cap and Trade) that appeared the instant the President said that he too supported their bill.
If a principle or policy position is right, it is right and everyone who believes it is right is obliged to say so.
That said the fact that one agrees with Mr. Paul on this particular issue, or on any single issue, does not require that they abandon the general proposition that he is a intellectually pretentious and seditious a-hole who has yet to express an intellectually or mathematically reliable sentence or can be trusted to act in the interest of the USA or it citizens.
Gregory Morgan
Mar. 10th, 2013 at 10:47 pm
Its ok to ask questions. Its certainly ok to ask questions of this administration. God read back through these comments…this isnt progressive its “stay in line” ideology. Who are you people? Can we like be liberals again and can I still be left leaning and think that people have a right to a trial and stuff or does that have some new uncool acronym I should know about too?
Shiva(Moderator)
Mar. 10th, 2013 at 10:51 pm
Only if you pay a 15.00 fee.
Churchlady
Mar. 10th, 2013 at 11:00 pm
Gregory – since Rand doesn’t believe in trials in the US, I’m not sure what you’re referring to. If you want to debate the killing of two people who had declared themselves enemy combatants, that IS a discussion worth having, but it’s NOT HERE. We are not talking about that. No one here is being knee jerk – everyone is saying you have to know the policies, you have to do more than be reflexively opposed to something. That is what the EmoProgs do about supporting a man, Rand Paul, whose entire premise is based on everything progressives loathe. Rand SUPPORTS drone strikes – just hates Obama. You need to read carefully of his entire package and not jump on his bandwagon just because he SEEMS to be supporting civil liberties which he has, in a thousand other contexts, rejected.
Read widely. Read well. Don’t swallow the Libertarian Kool-Aid.
nabsentia23
Mar. 11th, 2013 at 8:39 am
Well, the day you understand the complexities of international extradition law, get back to me.
Otherwise, you should know that bringing someone back to stand trial after they’ve fled a jurisdiction is difficult (even when there’s an extradition treaty in place).
Hey, drones should be discussed, but they should be discussed within the context of what’s happening right now in the world and not solely based on somebody’s ideal.
Lee Payne
Mar. 10th, 2013 at 10:59 pm
Others have said this, and I almost just replied to a couple of the others but my thoughts about this are simple and to the point. I disagree with the author. I am more liberal politically than 3/4 of the Democratic party and would not vote for Rand Paul under ANY circumstance. But I agreed with Rand Paul on this one issue with no hesitation. This conversation needed to take place. It doesn’t make me a fool to not share the uniform beliefs of the Democratic leadership or to agree with someone who I typically disagree with. Only a fool would think sharing agreement on a single issue with a politician is an offer of complete support for that candidate. Just my opinion though, I guess we all have those.
Patty Call
Mar. 11th, 2013 at 12:29 am
emoprog? lol
A tag dreamt up by self-proclaimed liberals to preemptively blunt any criticism of Obama, even when the same standards were applied to actions undertaken by the previous President.
tagdef.com/emoprog
lol…I can’t even say anything else because I’m laughing too hard. lol
Reynardine
Mar. 11th, 2013 at 8:36 am
Smegma-mouth
nabsentia23
Mar. 11th, 2013 at 9:00 am
Since where does being a liberal who wants actual results mean I’m just “self-professed” and not genuine? Dreaming is necessary, but without practical action, they are just dreams. Emoprogs spend too much time dreaming and not enough time trying to figure how to make those dreams a reality. And they ignore that 1) we live in a democratic society where people are free to disagree with them and will act on that disagreement and 2) if a strategy didn’t work the first time, trying it over and over again will not improve the results.
You can’t say anything else not because you’re laughing because you simply can’t. Emoprogs are just as easy to debate as right-wing nutjobs. When you are presented with facts, we hear crickets. Then, when the next “cause” or “event” occurs; you’re yelling and screaming all over again.
Look, Obama isn’t above criticism, but it should be done with facts, not hyperbole. And just because Obama may not being doing well in one particular area, doesn’t mean you chuck the guy completely in the trash. I have my own criticisms on Obama, but I’m not going to abandon him because, in my view, he has more positives than negatives. And I wouldn’t go so far as to siding with a neo-confederate (Rand Paul) just because we may agree with one or two issues.
As an African American woman, Rand Paul doesn’t care about my civil liberties on two counts (my race and my gender). So, I immediately questioned his sincerity about drones. Do you know what his stance is on the Civil Rights Legislation of the ’60? Or on abortion? If you did, you would see major, glaring contradictions greater than anything you’ve accused Obama of.
The fact remains that Paul admitted to tricking you and everybody else. And you still can’t see that. And your smugness does little to cover that up!
knight4444
Mar. 11th, 2013 at 2:59 pm
Excellent post!
knight4444
Mar. 11th, 2013 at 3:06 pm
@patty guess what?? after reading that silly nonsense you threw up here, we’re all laughing! not with you, at you! hey do everybody a favor ok?? tell us two pieces of helpful legislation by the GOP that actually benefited WOMEN??? still laughing @patty???????
Paws
Mar. 11th, 2013 at 8:56 am
Although I think he accomplished very little – I mean, the policy itself didn’t change, the question had already been asked and answered – at least for a brief moment (in 24/7 cable news time), attention was focused on this issue.
Having said that, the notion that Rand Paul is some sort of constitutional champion (or hero, as Cenk called him on Current TV) is laughable. For instance, he thinks it is okay for a diner to refuse to serve certain patrons. He thinks it is okay for the government to take away a woman’s right to choose. He believes corporations should be allowed to do whatever the hell they want to do because that’s the “free market” at work. His filibuster really was nothing more than a fundraising stunt, evidenced by the fact that he sent out fundraising letters the very next day based on this filibuster. It’s also evidenced by the fact that nothing changed; we still have drones, we’re still using them, and if an American is deemed an enemy combatant, he/she ought to pay close attention to the sky.
He might have drawn attention to an issue that hasn’t been talked about enough, but he is no friend to the left.
nabsentia23
Mar. 11th, 2013 at 9:04 am
Here’s the point that emoprogressives praising Rand Paul need to understand. He’s a neo-confederate.
If they want to associate with these types of people then let them. Fortunately, most on the left can see right through him.
But I find it strange that when Rand was quite open about his views on civil rights, these same emo-progs vilified him. Now they all of a sudden love him because of his phoney attack on drones? Give me a break! Do they honestly think his views on civil rights all of a sudden changed because he’s supposedly “anti-drone” now?
Wendell Chrysler
Mar. 11th, 2013 at 9:44 am
Summed all of this up quite well … I dare so-called liberals to read this to the end.
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Wendell Chrysler
Mar. 11th, 2013 at 10:17 am
“Meanwhile, a large bulk of the Democratic and liberal commentariat – led, as usual, by the highly-paid DNC spokesmen called “MSNBC hosts” and echoed, as usual, by various liberal blogs, which still amusingly fancy themselves as edgy and insurgent checks on political power rather than faithful servants to it – degraded all of the weighty issues raised by this episode by processing it through their stunted, trivial prism of partisan loyalty. They thus dutifully devoted themselves to reading from the only script they know: Democrats Good, GOP Bad.”
knight4444
Mar. 11th, 2013 at 11:15 am
@wendell, now thats a 21st century name if I’ve ever heard one! listen pops! I think you took a wrong turn in Albuquerque!! this isn’t a republican website! so you’d be better servered reading some intelligent post here and benefit from getting an education, rather than spewing FUX news garbage!!
knight4444
Mar. 11th, 2013 at 2:55 pm
@wendell hitting the thumbs up button for yourself still doesn’t make you correct! and hitting the thumbs down button sure as hell doesn’t make me wrong! LOL it’s so easy to see with great thinkers like you why your party is so screwed up.
Sherlock
Mar. 11th, 2013 at 6:25 pm
Wendell
You have it wrong— Democrat good—- Republican EVIL pricks
Proud American First
Mar. 11th, 2013 at 10:36 am
So let me get this straight…People from opposing sides agree on something and what do we do….WE DIVIDE FURTHER…yeah you all need to grow up…people not wanting people killed without a trial is not a republican or democratic idea…ITS AN AMERICAN ONE.
knight4444
Mar. 11th, 2013 at 11:06 am
Rand Paul is a fool! but even a stopped clock is right once a day. The republican party is imploding!! this party has lost touch with reality!! the teaparty is actually doing a much better job of hamstring the GOP than the democratic party EVER could or would accomplish!! I’m just LMAO watching the GOP repeatedly stick it’s foot in it’s mouth!! witnessing the republicans party destroy itself is priceless!! good ole Ronnie Reagan must be spinning in his grave now!!!!
charlie
Mar. 11th, 2013 at 11:53 am
but making an issue out of the “possibility” of him launching drone attacks on innocent citizens on American soil; that is what violent militias stocking their armories for civil war sit and fret about
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Really? A government that interned over 110,000 Japanese-Americans during World War II simply for the sin of having the same national origin of one of its declared enemies…. a government that conducted secret syphilis tests on rural black men at the Tuskegee Institute in Alabama …. a government that no longer needs a warrant to track the communications of citizens with electronic devices …a government that has proclaimed the need to grope and fondle Grandma and Grandpa before they head off to see the grandkids….a government that monitors our moves with closed circuit cameras…. is that the government who we should not ever ask how they intend to broaden their power?
Sherlock
Mar. 11th, 2013 at 2:25 pm
I find Rand Paul boring– I must admit I find most politicans from Kentucky and Tennessee boring.
Rand Paul is going nowhere except to the bank after his next book is sold to the stooges that like the sound of his words.
He is a Glenn Beck wannabe. He is not crazy. Do not bum rap crazy people.
george
Mar. 11th, 2013 at 9:16 pm
Emoprogs? Really? Anyone who has any principles they are willing to argue for is an emoprog? This kind of denigration of any dissension sounds more like a cult than any kind of real politics. Killing kids gathering firewood with a hellfire missle is murder. If you have to go so far as to defend that by labeling those who can see muder for what it is as emoprogs, then you have gone too far to justifying anything.
ibwilliamsi
Mar. 11th, 2013 at 10:37 pm
These people are so ass backwards. If they hate drones they need to cut the defense budget to the bone and get America working again. Or, similarly they could require defense contractors to hire a certain percentage of their workforce from ex-military. ie: get America working again.
It’s fucked up that we didn’t learn ONE DAMNED THING from the cold war with Russia. We ARE the USSR at this point.