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Romney Ad Calling Obama a Liar Proven Wrong
By: Sarah JonesJul. 12th, 2012more from Sarah Jones
Mitt Romney puts out new ad today calling Obama a liar for saying he outsourced jobs. On the same day, a Boston Globe article busted Romney for still being at Bain when he said he wasn’t, which ironically proves Obama right. Oh, Mitt.
Mitt Romney is accusing President Obama of lying in a new ad today. Romney says that the President’s ad regarding Romney’s outsourcing history is a lie. Romney asks how voters can trust Obama to lead if he “doesn’t tell the truth.”
That’s a great question. If Romney thinks not telling the truth is a bad thing, perhaps he can explain to us why he mislead the public about when he left Bain, a claim that allowed him to deny his reputation as an outsourcer.
Romney put out this ad today, in which a narrator says, “There was no evidence that Mitt Romney shipped jobs overseas.”
Titled “No Evidence,” it’s Romney’s push back against President Obama’s claim that Romney outsourced jobs while working Bain Capital. The mainstream media reports that “The claims have been largely debunked by fact-checking organizations” and this is true, they have.
They were debunked because Romney told us he left Bain in 1999. But that’s not exactly true.
Perhaps there was NO public evidence when the Romney campaign made today’s ad, but there is evidence today, and today is when he released the ad. Furthermore, while the evidence may not have been public a month ago, Romney knew when he had Bain stock and when he was an executive. Notice the careful wording “there is no evidence.” This is just more bad news for Romney, because it is now public knowledge that Romney claimed to be in charge on his disclosure forms during the job outsourcing.
We have already discussed the implications of Bain SEC filings at PoliticusUSA, but today the Boston Globe has made it official; Romney was at Bain during the layoffs and the outsourcing of jobs. In an article titled, “Mitt Romney stayed at Bain 3 years longer than he stated– Firm’s 2002 filings identify him as CEO, though he said he left in 1999″ the Boston Globe details:
Government documents filed by Mitt Romney and Bain Capital say Romney remained chief executive and chairman of the firm three years beyond the date he said he ceded control, even creating five new investment partnerships during that time.
Romney has said he left Bain in 1999 to lead the winter Olympics in Salt Lake City, ending his role in the company. But public Securities and Exchange Commission documents filed later by Bain Capital state he remained the firm’s “sole stockholder, chairman of the board, chief executive officer, and president.”
Also, a Massachusetts financial disclosure form Romney filed in 2003 states that he still owned 100 percent of Bain Capital in 2002. And Romney’s state financial disclosure forms indicate he earned at least $100,000 as a Bain “executive” in 2001 and 2002, separate from investment earnings.
Why does this matter? Well, for one, the Romney campaign has been denying this, and just like the tax returns he refuses to make public, his denial of responsibility for his time at Bain is troubling because of the dishonesty invoked and also because at a time when Americans need jobs and Republicans refuse to propose or pass a jobs bill (save finally the Veterans Jobs Bill after much ado), jobs are a big deal right now.
Romney’s chief economic adviser, R. Glenn Hubbard, said “Outsourcing is good for America.” Now we know that Romney owned 100 percent of the Bain stock and was an “executive” during the outsourcing. So yes, it’s accurate to say he was in charge then and it’s fair to ask if Romney understands the need for American jobs and what his plan is.
It’s not just about an attack ad being proven accurate, it’s more importantly about the policies and beliefs of the candidates. The President’s campaign points out that Mitt Romney:
• Supports a territorial tax system that would allow multinational companies investing overseas to avoid paying U.S. taxes, which critics say “would prompt U.S. to shift offshore even more income than they already do.”
• Vetoed a bill as governor that would’ve prevented Massachusetts from sending state jobs overseas, and signed a contract for a call center in India.
• Invested, as a corporate buyout specialist, in companies “that were pioneers in the practice of shipping work from the United States to overseas call centers and factories” to countries including China and India.
We hope that the fact checkers are on board and they might start to learn something: The President is very careful with his words. What he lacks in sound bites and bumper stickers he tends to make up for in accuracy. Time and time again, he has been proven accurate when more information came out. There have been times when he was wrong, and he has adjusted his rhetoric to reflect the fact checking. This matters, for when someone is wrong, we expect them to adjust to reality and stop perpetuating an untruth. Everyone makes mistakes. But continuing to make them in defiance of the truth is telling.
Why exactly did Mitt Romney release an ad today accusing the President of lying about something that turns out to be true? Does Romney not remember his time at Bain, or does he think that by not releasing his tax returns, he can muddy these waters and keep them vague, thereby misleading the American people?
One thing is certain, Romney didn’t officially sever ties with Bain until 2002. Romney says that the SEC filings and disclosure reports don’t mean anything, they were legal technicalities. But he really can’t have it both ways. He was still making money from the outsourcing and he was still the executive in charge during a time he has denied being in charge.
President Obama has been proven right again. He’s done more homework than everyone else, which is why he comes to the fight prepared. I’d bet that Obama knew all along that Romney was in charge after he claimed he left, and he cornered Romney into denying it (yet again) by making outsourcing an issue.
Romney has once again fallen into the President’s trap of boxing him in between a lie and a secret (outsourcing and his tax returns). Now Romney either needs to keep lying and refusing to release his tax returns, or release them to prove that the SEC filings and disclosure forms were somehow wrong. And if those forms were wrong, Romney is in a whole different world of hurt.
So Mitt Romney’s question to Obama today about how can we trust him if he doesn’t tell us the truth is quite topical and of high interest today. Tell us, Mr. Romney, how can we trust you if you won’t tell us the truth? All of Romney’s slick shell game of find the truth “I wasn’t there, that’s just for legal reasons” denies that Romney made a profit off of the outsourcing and was in charge for some reason. He had a reason to claim he was the executive – now he has to own it.
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get real
Jul. 12th, 2012 at 1:06 pm
It’s simple: Romney is a liar and fraud.
Liz Adams
Jul. 17th, 2012 at 5:02 pm
Romney would continue to outsource American jobs. Do you people really want to become slaves to the top 1% of this country? Stop with your hatred and look closely at what you are trying to do. If you feel Mitt Romney has your welfare at heart, then vote for him.
northierthanthou
Jul. 12th, 2012 at 1:12 pm
And of course the right wing will never forgive Obama for being right about this.
Kevin Shinn
Jul. 12th, 2012 at 2:03 pm
That is the one unforgivable sin…
Paws
Jul. 12th, 2012 at 1:32 pm
Ah, yes, more lies from the liar, liar whose pants are perpetually on fire. All Romney does is lie along with his entire campaign team and, quite frankly, they’re very bad at it.
Romney and his team thought that since the economy was bad, they wouldn’t have to come up with any coherent campaign strategy. They could just keep saying, “Obama bad, me good” and all would be well and he’d skate into the Oval Office. The truth is that people are complicated and trying to reduce them and their concerns to just one issue – the economy – is folly. They care about the economy to be sure and it is probably at the top of their list of issues that they care about, but they also care about other things, too, and the Romney team is not relating to all or even a majority of their concerns.
Furthermore, Romney is simply a bad candidate. He is not presidential material by any stretch of the imagination and no amount of lying is going to change that. In fact, the lying just reinforces how unfit he is. No one knows what he stands for because he has no core philosophy other than to do and say whatever it takes to win. He does not want to win the election in order to govern all of the people; he wants to win because he thinks he is entitled to it by virtue of his wealth and his wealth alone. People want specifics, they want to know what he will DO and he continues to put out these vague policy positions that basically say he’ll do the opposite of President Obama. Doesn’t matter what it is, he’ll do the opposite – but don’t expect him to tell you how he’ll accomplish those things.
The GOP had a laughable field of candidates that treated the whole thing like they were on a game show. Now they are stuck with Romney and even they know he is not a good candidate and he will not win. They’re just trying to hang on until 2016. In the meantime, their in-fighting is growing, they have no coherent message except to make Pres. Obama a one-term president, and they have put forth no bills that will get Americans back to work again.
People are tired of it and they know Mitt Romney and the GOP in Congress are not going to help them. They all thought they could get away without doing anything but they were wrong about that, too.
Kevin Shinn
Jul. 12th, 2012 at 2:06 pm
This is too soon, for isn’t there a whiff of criminality here? A real formidable contestant waits in the wings, or so I believe: gird yourself for President Bush III.
JJM
Jul. 12th, 2012 at 2:13 pm
Romney has the instincts of a con man and criminal. “No evidence” he says, knowing full well the truth of the allegations. The fact that evidence surfaced in public despite his efforts … tells the tale of the man who would be king … of a planet after he dies.
JM
Jul. 12th, 2012 at 2:50 pm
I hope the fourth estate does their job! Namely every journalist worth their salt starts asking Romney questions about these matters AND reporting the facts as well on the mainstream media. C’mon guys. Get honest and do your job.
For the ‘ordinary folks’ we can keep up the heat by comments, questions, tweets etc to help the journalists stay on track. If they are as dishonest as Romney the voters remain in a deep oozy soup of propaganda.
It might behoove us to wait a bit, so we’re closer to November and the attention span of today’s 24/7 media blitz before launching a public outcry over this and surely other such issues in every way we can, showing that the Koch (& others) billions cannot buy an election. This despite corporate sponsors and their hold on our media.
ibwilliamsi
Jul. 12th, 2012 at 2:52 pm
I don’t know why this says that this is a “new ad today”. They’ve been running this ad non-stop in NC for two weeks.
Carrie
Jul. 12th, 2012 at 3:44 pm
It’s a new ad released today it’s on every news site. Maybe it’s you.
Rocky in texas said...
Jul. 12th, 2012 at 3:18 pm
Ol Willard Mitt Romney sure Loves him some Mitt Romney…
Period…. end of story !
Rumor has it…
sarah palin is gonna take over runnng his campaign.
Jeremy
Jul. 12th, 2012 at 3:24 pm
Ahhh…. Nothing like mudslinging in political elections.
The key point to take away from this is, both candidates are terrible for the American people. It matters not, which one gets chosen.
Over the next four years, the American people will be screwed worse than before.
Vote for whomever you like the best, I predict the masses won’t show up to vote anyway.
Remember, the AMERICAN people, lose in this election.
That is all.
ack smith
Jul. 12th, 2012 at 3:29 pm
bravo, well said. funny, i saw an interview with the romneys, not sure who interviewed them, may have been 60 minutes. but anne romney said “it is our turn”, like they are entitled to the presidency, just like a monarchy. their sense of reality is completely detached from the american people. anne romeny also said “i dont consider us to be rich”. she thinks Willard and her are average everyday americans. neither one of these people have ever had to struggle,, not one day in their life, and it shows. dont forget, he worried about getting a pink slip a couple times, and he is currently unemployed too, nice insult.
while Willard stands on 2 sides of every major issue, what is even more disturbing, is that when he is fact checked, he just keeps on spouting the lie. he is a pathological liar of unseen proportions and a sociopath. he cares for no one, but for his rich cronies, period. if elected, he will be something called a “rubber stamp president” for the far right wing agenda. he wants to undo the middle class, that is priority number one, and he honestly beleives, that the average american does not see that. so his lies continue day after day, so i am guessing, he thinks we are stupid. what an insult, a spit in the face of the american people, it is sickening.
will americans vote a man with no core into the highest office in the world? come on, what a joke, and Willard dishonestly beleives they will.
show release the tax returns back to 2000, just as obama has, and his father did. good God, have some morals. what a Seamus you are Willard, and national embarassment. funny, i bet he think he deserves to be on Mt. Rushmore. look for him to say just that, and if called on it, he would just lie some more, he certainly is a steady source of lies. after all, he never outsourced jobs by the thousands, and he saved the auto industry, and says of his governorship “i did not inhale”. tries to run and hide from his governorship, where the romneycare is working beautifully, and the people love it. you know, i wonder why Willard wants to kill the ACA? romneycare, was his signature achievment as Mass. governor, why is he running from it? denying he said the Mass. healthcare model is “a template for the nation”. what a conflicted and sick man, if he is even a man at all.
Rmuse
Jul. 12th, 2012 at 4:25 pm
This is not even “new” news. I have two contacts whose businesses were bankrupted by Romney/Bain long after 1999. The SEC and White House are aware that Willard was Bain’s owner of record until 2002. Guess it’s time to start publishing the SEC docs I have that were, get this, sealed at Romney’s lawyer’s insistence.
Lisa Meeks
Jul. 13th, 2012 at 9:24 am
If Romney was not running Bain after Feb 1999, then he needs to inform everyone who was along with proof. Seems to be a simple enough solution.
Gary Vaughn
Jul. 13th, 2012 at 12:00 pm
They need to understand that this campaign staff is not like their own. The day the PPACA was voted on the right wing propaganda machines Fox and Certainly Not News jumped the gun ad reported wrong. Their campaign does that alot, and this campaign does their homework.