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Christian Reconstructionists See Danger of Seven Mountain Dominionism
more from Hrafnkell Haraldsson
You might want to sit down before reading this. Seriously. You wouldn’t think a Christian Reconstructionist would be frightened by anything. I mean, to a liberal, they’re a pretty scary bunch. But they seem to be a bit alarmed by the rise of the Seven Mountains Dominionists and their growing influence since Rick Perry’s prayer-fast in Houston on August 6.
Right Wing Watch reported yesterday that talk-show host Janet Mefferd was talking about how “conservative Christian activists are marveling at the “strange turn of events” that had brought the self-proclaimed apostles and prophets of the New Apostolic Reformation together with the traditional Religious Right activists.”
Traditional…remember, it’s only been twenty to thirty years since these fundamentalists became to infiltrate the Christian mainstream themselves and the term Religious Right only comes into vogue after Jerry Falwell’s establishment of the Moral Majority in 1979. “Traditional” is apparently a relative term.
What is interesting is that while many fundamentalists are pretending no such thing as dominionism exists, Mefferd was referring to the dominionists as being “mainstreamed” at The Response. Just as they themselves were once mainstreamed by Ronald Reagan. Oh dear.
As RRW reports,
Along with her guest, “Christian apologist” Robert Bowman of the Institute for Religious Research, Mefferd expressed her grave concerns about the growing influence of dominionists and their participation in Texas Gov. Rick Perry’s The Response prayer rally. They defined dominionism as the belief that fundamentalist Christians should have control over positions of political power and administer law according to Biblical precepts.[1]
Ooops! It seems to be almost a “how did they get in my bed?” response. But as the pre-Hitler Nazi Party discovered, you have to be careful who you invite to your table. There is always somebody more extreme out there than you.
Here’s what Mefferd and her guest had to say:
Mefferd: So if Christians go for instance to a prayer rally and there are a lot of dominionist people there, people who are interested in this theology and ascribe to this theology, is there any particular problem with those who don’t subscribe to dominionist theology joining hands, and having a big get together, theologically, if they have a prayer rally together, is there any sort of problem with that?
Bowman: Boy you’re gonna get me in trouble here. First of all, I gotta say that mature and well-meaning Christians can have different point of view on this thing. But my own personal opinion is that I do think it’s a problem. If you’re a Christian who does not subscribe to these neo-Pentecostal, fringe ideas about apostles and prophets being restored to the Church in the Last Days to establish a Kingdom of God movement before the Second Coming of Christ, mixed in with all the Word of Faith, health-and-wealth gospel stuff.
If you don’t agree with that, and of course I don’t, then participating in rallies and conferences and conventions where these teachers and leaders of that movement play a prominent role, I’m not just saying they happen to be there along with other people, but if they are playing a prominent role in one of these activities, then I think participating in that lends credence and support to that particular movement. And I find that personally troubling, I wouldn’t want to do that.
Mefferd: I think that’s very well stated and I think it’s very fair. You ought to know what you’re getting into. I think no matter what you’re joining in, if you’re going to a conference, going to a revival meeting, going to a prayer rally, I think it always benefits you to know exactly who the organizer is, what they believe, and then you can discern whether or not it’s something you really want to participate in.
Later in the day, Right Wing Watch reported that Joel McDurmon, the Director of Research for American Vision, which is run by a ChristianReconstructionists, “posted a piece on the organization’s website warning about the rise of the NAR and their Seven Mountains theology and saying that while Christian Reconstructionists like them “would properly recriminalize sodomy, adultery, and abortion,” they seek to implement such policies through evangelism, not by seizing control.”
Now we may be splitting hairs here, but the problem is that as Reconstructionists have belatedly realized that the NAR advocates institution of a theocracy and McDurmon warns that “there is much to be concerned with in the 7MD version of Dominion Theology. For this reason, we must announce clearly and maintain a stark distinction between 7MD and the traditional Christian Reconstruction movement, or traditional Dominion Theology.”
Because certainly, if anybody does, McDurmon knows that nobody hates a Christian like another Christian. Welcome to reality, American Vision! Do we have your attention now?
Look at some of the points McDurmon felt compelled to make in defense of “traditional” dominionism:
McDurmon goes on to mention such supporters of Seven Mountains Theology as Peter Wagner, Lance Wallnau, Rick Joyner, Johnny Enlow and others saying that they “desire to grab the seats of power and install a temporary totalitarianism for your own good which they think will usher in the messiah.”
Well, yeah. What took you so long, Mr. McDurmon? Sooner is better than later but later is better than never, and McDurmon isn’t buying the NAR spiel:
You see, 7MDs are really about nothing more than the love of God and serving their fellow man.
That should settle all questions about their desire to grab the seats of power and install a temporary totalitarianism for your own good which they think will usher in the messiah, now shouldn’t it?
If you buy all that, I’ve got a Kingdom in Siam I’d like to sell you.
The real effect of this sudden awakening to danger is that every Republican candidate for president seems to have ties of one sort or another with fundamentalist Christianity (or like Romney, tries to), the umbrella term I use here to include Dominionism (of any kind), and Reconstructionism, etc. Rick Perry’s The Response may have drawn the attention of the Reconstructionists quoted above but let’s not forget that Dominionism itself (which includes “traditional” Dominionism) is a danger to a modern liberal democracy like ours.
In the end, the enemy of my enemy is my friend, and though I’m not enamored of Christian Reconstructionism either I’m not unhappy to see them awake up as they seem the lesser of two evils – since unlike the NAR’s Peter Wagner, they’re not advocating taking over by “any means necessary.” Look, folks, the NAR is capital S-Scary. These are the people who put the “i” in inquisition. I cannot overstate the danger they pose.
Let’s be happy to have the “help” of Reconstructionists talking about and exposing the NAR to the light of day. Like we liberals, Reconstructionists don’t want to live in an NAR theocracy and for now that’s to America’s advantage. Let’s run with it while continuing to espouse the ideals of our Founding Fathers and the very secular U.S. Constitution. And honestly, won’t it tickle you just a bit to have Rick Perry’s allies at The Response turn into a very heavy chain and anchor?
[1] The Institute for Religious Research is a Christian apologetics organization based in Grand Rapids, Michigan.
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Shiva (Moderator)
Sep. 10th, 2011 at 10:43 am
I wonder if Perry understands who allies he has chosen really are. But then again I dont care as long as he is never elected.
I am glad that one faction of dominionism recognizes the dangers of NAR and the 7 mountains, but even more worried that the lamestream religions are not speaking out. For them to be silent when one of their fellow “christians” think they can bring about the return of the son of god by taking over the government literally means they are unaware or hope to cash in on the movements.
Zoe Brain
Sep. 10th, 2011 at 11:16 am
If they can’t get elected, then they see it as their duty to God to take power some other way.
Boscoe
Sep. 10th, 2011 at 11:24 am
I think the real benefit of this situation is that other Christians are the ones shining the light on the dominionism that so many want to pretend is just a paranoid delusion. And if some of that light splashes back on themselves while they’re doing it, it’s a win-win for the rest of us!
It is heartening though, to see that some extremist Christians understand why a theocracy is just a bad idea; there’s no guarantee that the ruling system will represent (or respect, or not oppress, or not try to destroy)YOUR interpretation.
I swear the 1st Amendment makes more sense every day…
Diane
Sep. 10th, 2011 at 12:42 pm
I think it’s a hoot that these radical, fundamentalist christians are afraid of Dominism.
Perhaps, although I don’t hold much hope, they will realize the error of their ways. That religion does not belong in government.
Interesting that they are cautious/afraid of another religious sect.
Too worried that they may be forced by another group.
A Walkaway
Sep. 10th, 2011 at 12:46 pm
(LAUGH!!!)
SHEEE-IT, talk about the pot calling the kettle black.
Both the NAR AND the reconstructionists are dominionists. Both seek to overthrow the government and establish their version of “reality”. Both are evil.
A researcher friend of mine calls the Southern Baptists (who are largely reconstructionist) “Dominionist-Lite”. But all flavors of dominionism both reject religious plurality and separation of church and state.
Sarah Jones
Sep. 10th, 2011 at 2:03 pm
Wow. You know you’re off base when other extremists point to you and say “we’re not with them!” This is sort of like when that one Tea Party rally kicked the KKK out, when the cross over of TP with white power groups is well documented. You can BE crazy, just don’t let the public find out – and if they do, we’ll pretend we don’t know you.
Shiva (Moderator)
Sep. 10th, 2011 at 2:04 pm
guns, baby jebus and guns
Sarah Jones
Sep. 10th, 2011 at 2:07 pm
For the freedum! Also, the hair!
john
Sep. 10th, 2011 at 4:29 pm
gee this is one of those deals that call for second amendment remedies..kill for Jesus
mikeyhatesit
Sep. 11th, 2011 at 12:29 am
Someone I used to go to school with was incredulous when I pointed out that his association in the Civil War re-enactment group in Virginia might be tainted by the owner’s relationship to the white power groups that were found essentially infiltrating it. I can’t quite recall the organization, but the initials had to do with the Carolinas or the Virginias: VCA, SCN, or something similar. It had been discovered that even though the founder was no longer directly involved with the re-enactment group, he still associated with newer administrators that had come out of white power groups.
Rightfully so, he is correct when he says it doesn’t mean every Civil War fan is automatically a white power advocate. However, there is too much overlap with the Tea Party, RaHoWa adherents, and Dominionists for there not to be any concern. Despite being a minority, their vocal strength overwhelms civil libertarians and humanists in a continuation of the legacy of their Moral Majority ancestors from the 1980s.
Ray
Sep. 10th, 2011 at 5:08 pm
Evangelical Christianity is the most dangerous terrorist threat to the world today.
majii
Sep. 10th, 2011 at 5:17 pm
Wish I could rec your comment x 1,000,000!!!
Ex-Dominionist
Sep. 10th, 2011 at 5:36 pm
I don’t know why McDurmon is so surprised, although I’m glad SOMEONE in Christendom is finally exposing the actual agenda of the extreme Dominionists.
I’ve been watching this gather steam for 30 years. Teachings about the Kingship of Christ that subtly morphed into this “so we’re going to take over the world, seize the Kingdom by Propaganda, Lies, Dirty Tricks, Cash Infusions (Bribes), and, finally, Force”, are what drove me, not only out of Dominionism, but out of Evangelical Christianity 25 years ago.
Over the past 30 years, a great many false teachers and wolves in sheep’s clothing have hijacked the church, and since they also preached Easy Money and More Political Power, Christians bought it, hook, line, and sinker, straining at gnats and swallowing camels the entire way.
You do not want the world these people are building. Once they get it, neither will they. There is no substantive difference between a rabid extremist Dominionist and a rabid extremist Islamist.
A Walkaway
Sep. 10th, 2011 at 9:26 pm
I used to catch hell for saying “Taliban II is coming, and this time they wear a cross”. People didn’t like me comparing the dominionists to the Taliban.
Now people are starting to recognize the parallels. The Taliban and the Reconstructionists… Al Qaeda and the NAR. I strongly believe what will come soon is more frequent terrorism… bombings, murders, etc. The dominionists have already been doing it under the guise of “The Army of God”, and it’s growing.
The problem is Fundamentalism… no matter what the religion or ideology.
amyloo
Sep. 10th, 2011 at 7:30 pm
So, I don’t get it. Are these folks pre-tribution rapture adherents, is that is?
Snooze Hamilton
Sep. 12th, 2011 at 8:45 am
I’m seeing this happen. Some of the Old Skool fundies are looking at the current crop of DomNAMs and going “whoa . . . waitaminnit”. There are some of them who either think they’re going too far or in the wrong direction, or who’ve realized that they themselves won’t pass the DomNAM litmus test of who’s “right thinking”.
I don’t like either group, but any time someone step back from supporting a unified DomNAM political agenda I call good. And I agree that the traditional type of CRs is the lesser of two evils; I’d rather deal with the Old Skoolers over the Next Generation any day. The former doesn’t embrace the “by any means necessary” to the extent the latter does, and they don’t have the same level of concentrated “proud to be mean”.