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Conservatives Feign Outrage Over MSNBC’s Mika Brzezinski’s Pay Disparity
Conservatives are hoping to save Mitt Romney from his failed attempt to avoid a policy discussion about equal pay by feigning outrage over Mika Brzezinski’s pay.
The conservative Weekly Standard, founded by William Kristol, is allegedly making a case about pay disparity out of MSNBC’s Morning Joe, where Mika Brzezinski is paid half of what her male co-host is paid. They write, as if shocked, “Brzezinski’s colleague Andrea Mitchell made this point on air yesterday–that pay disparity exists at MSNBC.” Really? As if it doesn’t exist at every other network? We were unaware that Republicans cared about pay disparity. This is most unusual.
We can only assume this is intended to suggest that liberals are no better at women’s pay issues than conservatives, but if that is indeed the underlying point, it’s an utter fail.
The entertainment business is just that – a business. It’s run by men, it’s a huge industry as far as American exports go. Entertainment/media is a top dog in the business world. MSNBC is not a liberal entity- it’s a corporation under NBC Universal run by parent companies GE and Comcast, and as such, it doesn’t embrace liberal values but rather is guided by the amoral profit motive conjoined to the patriarchal system.
MSNBC saw an untapped market in liberal slanted news after Fox News so successfully absorbed the conservative market, and they jumped on it. They didn’t do it because they have a liberal agenda – they did it for money. And Morning Joe is not a liberal show; it’s named after the Republican host Joe Scarborough.
Women have always been paid less in entertainment. Julia Roberts fought to change that, and made huge strides for female stars, but women still make less than a man of similar star power.
If anything, this seemingly shocking revelation of pay disparity substantiates the need for federal policy rather than making a case against it. It demonstrates why the Lilly Ledbetter Act is so important and it should prove to thinking people that the market doesn’t regulate itself fairly without some help, especially when it comes to social change. It’s also evidence of male privilege if indeed the male writer finds this so shocking, because he doesn’t realize that this is par for the course, not a revelation that would surprise most women. Fair? Of course not. Welcome to the party, conservatives — this is why we are so upset by Mitt Romney’s comments.
Conservatives will do anything to avoid the overreaching policy discussion – including trying to find hypocrisies in liberal arguments. No doubt that is the point of bringing up MSNBC’s failure to pay women equally. To wit, sensing an agenda, the Weekly Standard writes, “For Brzezinski’s part, it’s more than a bit odd that she would play down the problems at MSNBC now. After all, her public dispute with MSNBC about pay equity has been well known. In fact, she’s made it herself on her own show.” If anything, the discussion of women’s pay only proves that broad policy change is needed, but what can you expect from a party that still pretends there is no war on women, in spite of a historic record of GOP anti-women legislation over the past two years?
It could be argued that Mika doesn’t have the background that Joe has and this excuses the pay discrepancy, but to make this argument you’d have to believe that substance mattered. What matters in media is branding and name recognition. This is why Sarah Palin got a TV show being paid millions and a book deal that paid far more than she was worth, whereas a person with more to say but without the fame can’t even get their book read, let alone picked up.
So I say yes, let’s discuss women’s pay as a policy issue. It’s established that it is an issue – what does the Weekly Standard think Mika should do about her situation? What do they tell the women of America when their candidate does not support equal pay, and when asked about it, Mitt Romney replied “If you’re going to have women in the work force…,” before launching into women in binders, as if women working were a decision made by men who were contemplating whether or not to grant approval to the family pet to take a stroll every day instead of a matter of economic survival, dignity, freedom and independence.
It’s tough to say whether Mika brings the same star power as Joe to Morning Joe, but she certainly brings more than half of the star power and yet she is pad half of what he is paid (2 million to his 4 million). Personally I’d love to watch a show hosted by her alone so that I could finally hear what she thinks, instead of watching Joe play Bad Boy Smart Man to her Tolerant Cheerleader.
I have a hunch that it’s actually the other way around – not only because of her background and his blatant cheering for modern Republican “ideas” that make no sense except as a cheer for greed, but also because male elected officials too often are remarkably devoid of deep intelligence. To wit, Republicans Todd Akin and Joe Walsh.
But that presumes that content matters and it doesn’t. You saw that in the first presidential debate. Content does not make good TV. Conflict, drama, and things that get you angry make good TV (by good TV, they mean TV that generates eyeballs, not actually “good” TV). The media wants a narrative. In the first debate their narrative is that the Bad Guy pummeled the Good Guy, but this also means the Bad Guy won. The media told the public how to feel, and the public fell in line and then expressed dismay when polls showed that indeed, they weren’t alone in falling for it.
Yes, it’s obvious that Mitt Romney is the Bad Guy – he’s the quintessential Potter to Obama’s hard work and honesty should be rewarded George Bailey archetype. That’s not bias – it’s story, and good story is based on real life themes. Sensata’s Bainport is the Potterville of 2012 and President Obama’s everyone should be doing their fair share is a Bedford Falls vision of America.
Mika could argue that she’s more attractive than Joe, but that’s just another disparity in entertainment – the women must be attractive, while the men can be bland and play the smart man of ideas. It’s obvious that they (entertainment corporations) feel men won’t watch unless they have eye candy, as they’re competing with cable networks that are running genuine t and a all day long now. So we have the Fox News effect trickling down – dumb them down with eye candy, let the men say the “important” things, and try to never inform your audience about real issues like the corporate takeover of the country (unless reporting on that will make the corporation money without threatening the deregulatory legislative – read Republican – agenda of the corporation).
As for Rachel Maddow and the liberal line up, even MSNBC knows that liberals have different measures for attractiveness than conservatives. Fox News is all generic, cookie cutter, blond flesh; MSNBC is unique, smart women — attractive to a liberal audience for reasons conservatives can’t understand. Mika was made over into blonde fluff for their Republican-led show, but she is not just blonde fluff and for that matter, neither are many of the women playing slinky Mean Girl on Fox News. They are smart women doing what they need to do to keep their jobs. It’s not right, I’m not condoning it, but that’s the way it is. Just like it’s a fact that women in media do not get paid the same as men.
What does the Weekly Standard think we ought to do about it, if not federal policy? How would they suggest we address a standard set by their own side – not just Fox News, but corporate news — news for profit, that led to news anchors and hosts as objects of desire rather than trusted sources of information? Corporate news/infotainment for profit is a direct function of Republican policies, so to express feigned dismay at the results is hypocrisy at its finest.
Their fix? Vote for Mitt Romney because he hired binders full of women and let them go home to cook dinner. That will fix the shocking problem of pay disparity at MSNBC, which isn’t a problem anywhere else if we are to judge by the simpering moral outrage expressed at this one case.
The Republican Party is running Todd legitimate-rape Akin, Joe women-don’t-die-from-pregnancy Walsh and Paul forcible-rape Ryan. At the top of their ticket is a man who has agreed that abortion should be illegal even when the mother’s life is at risk and whose campaign said he would not have supported the Lilly Ledbetter Act. A female adviser for Romney called equal pay a left wing agenda. And we’re supposed to believe that they care about Mika Brzezinski’s pay disparity? This is just another attempt to muddy the water with binders full of women. Thanks, but no thanks, GOP.
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Anne
Oct. 20th, 2012 at 3:15 pm
These are the same folks who objected to the signing of the Lily Ledbetter Act, and who are gunning for the reproductive rights of women in this country. So, it goes without saying that they have zero credibility.
adrian Lehman
Oct. 20th, 2012 at 3:16 pm
You have taken my wish and said it out loud, Mika deserves to be heard and sitting next to that bore Joe Scarbourogh should garner her premium pay! Joe is the name but not the reason I watch I watch because Mika has the information important to me and Joe acts like a pompas ass!
Sandra
Oct. 21st, 2012 at 2:18 pm
Mika is a Democrat and a smart woman who has written a few books though I have never read one. I can’t say listening to Joe Scarborough that he’s an intelligent man. His claim to fame is that he was a one term Congressman and of course he’s male in a male dominated world.
Johnee
Oct. 20th, 2012 at 3:32 pm
Yeah their feigned concern is complete B.S.
With that said c’mon. As you say, Joe is a better known public figure, and it’s his show! Trying to connect the dots to lower pay because she’s a woman just doesn’t cut it on this one. As a male I wouldn’t expect to get paid nearly the same as Rachel Maddow if I ended up as a co-host on her show.
Plus, so-called “male privilege” only extends to certain males; The rest of us middle class, poor, and minority schlubs don’t have them. It’s selective.
In western society women have a whole set (once again selective)of privileges themselves…. particularly if the woman is white, upper middle income, and attractive.
TigerLily
Oct. 20th, 2012 at 11:56 pm
This does no qualify. Even tho I don’t like Joe’s lies in defending his party –he does sometimes tear them apart for their actions. I like it when they embarrass the hell out of him like at the 2nd debate. His honesty that Romney was so disrespectful to our President made me really admire him for saying that! But getting back to Mika and fair pay..I would gladly (and I’m sure several million women in those binders woud too!) Gladly take $2 million a year to work her “early hours” and never get sleep, to make faces at Joe everytime he tries to justify his party’s actions..instead of coming back with some intelligent response in defense of truth and common sense to educate the people-but she’s not getting paid for THAT. Then, get to spin around in her $1000 PRADA PUMPS (as she walks away–I never understand that) which she would never wear if she did not have that job… while the MAIN host (who deserves his salary if he’s the MAIN host after all) and as stated..is a male elected official for the show, in defense of his party–”too often remarkably devoid of deep intelligence. To wit, like his bros Republicans Todd Akin and Joe Walsh.” Actually I cannot compare Joe to these two sorry excuses of men. In this case..Mika is getting pretty dam good fair pay. But good try Romney and GOP ..again EPIC-fake-caring-about-women-FAIL!
Eykis
Oct. 20th, 2012 at 3:46 pm
Sarah,
Great column. Mika should either quit or demand equal payment. Very few people know JoeS as a congressvarmint. He served what 6-8 years and has been out of office for 10-12 now? He left in a haze of “dead woman in office” and has I believe has less education on foreign policy. Mika grew up in a house where her Dad was the NSA head and you know she learned at his knee, just like every other kid who is interested in government.
My gripe with Mika is that she ACCEPTS this and goes to work each day knowing she is the “unfunny” Gracie Allen to Joe’s “very unfunny and bullying” George Burns.
Her photo shoot in Vanity Fair projected the “little woman sidekick” to the “serious male politico” and that makes her a DISGRACE to women in this country.
Personally, I think there are far more interesting and talented people who could take this time slot at MSNBC and get real information out instead this ridiculous re-play of the Today Show.
zumpie
Oct. 20th, 2012 at 4:06 pm
Actually, I think they’re both grossly overpaid, cause I really, really hate Morning Jerk. But it is his show, so it isn’t THAT hard to understand why Joe is paid more. I’m sure Chris Hays is paid far less than either of them, not to mention Barnicle or even stupid Willie.
Back when Keith was on, he made more $$$ than any of them—because his show was the most popular and he was the one who realized the untapped market potential of a left leaning viewership.
Johnee
Oct. 20th, 2012 at 4:15 pm
Well said!
T. Miller
Oct. 20th, 2012 at 4:23 pm
I doubt Ed Mcmahon made half of what Johnny Carson made either…. It is Joes show by the way… DUH…
Heidi A Wilkinson
Oct. 20th, 2012 at 4:42 pm
As a woman who has been in management for 27 years. I have been paid less than a man with less education and experience than myself.
This is the reason why employeers don’t want people to disucss thier pay and will put in their employee handbooks that discussing salary can be a cause for termination.
One of my jobs had a big mess when many of the supervisors had a big discussion and talked about our salaries, it lead to the CEO of the company coming down and giving rasies.
MiserableOldFart
Oct. 20th, 2012 at 5:04 pm
Big difference between MSNBC and FOX “news,” from what I’ve seen is that MSNBC might report things with an alleged, “liberal slant,” but FOX “news” just plain makes “stuff” up.
Mark Brewster (@1dangerouself)
Oct. 20th, 2012 at 6:09 pm
Dunno who disagreed with MiserableOldFart, but he’s calling TRUTH. Fox News won a lawsuit that says LYING ON THE AIR is protected free speech. It’s BS, but it happened.
IMO, Mika’s $2M salary for the show is good enough; the OTHER $2M, she ought to get for putting up with JOE! He’s ALL ass!
Janice I Falk
Oct. 20th, 2012 at 7:02 pm
well I can understand this since she just sits there and makes a “boys will be boys and Facists’ face…let her actually DO something to represent the counterbalance to the IDIOTJOE.
majii
Oct. 20th, 2012 at 7:17 pm
Calling, Zbigniew Brzezinski! Calling, Zbigniew Brzezinski! The tools at Weekly Standard don’t know with whom they’re dealing if they’re thinking of making Mika Brzezinski their “poster woman” to deflect from Romney’s unwillingness to discuss fair pay for women. Her dad already wiped the floor once with Joe Scarborough on his own program about PBO’s foreign policy, and I’m sure he’d be more than willing to enlighten Joe, Bill Kristol, Romney, and the other male neanderthals on why equal pay for equal work for women is an important civil rights and economic issue and should be protected by federal legislation.
KatzKids
Oct. 21st, 2012 at 9:41 am
I happened to watch that segment too and Dad B was awesome. I doubt that he’s very proud of his daughter & her vapid performances, if you can call them that. She’s a pawn for the GOP, not a representative for the other side. A token DINO benefiting from having a famous father.
Shiva (Moderator)
Oct. 21st, 2012 at 9:59 am
Actually its Joes show. They do not share equal billing. And I have seen her many times fight back against Joe. hardly a pawn for the GOP. Any more than Alan Colmes was when he let Hannity walk all over him nightly
mike calomino
Oct. 21st, 2012 at 1:35 am
Remind me again. How much did Oprah make last year. Mika should have her own spot. She’s great.
Margaret Hughes
Oct. 21st, 2012 at 4:00 am
I’m with Adrian Lehman (see above). Joe is a bore and Mika is brilliant!
neil
Oct. 21st, 2012 at 7:55 am
Are you people for real? You have sympathy for someone who is making 40000 a week?I think a working mom who gets 400 a week is deserving a lot more sympathy.Who comes up with this crap?And what does Mika do exactly? Sit on her ass and talk bullshit about nothing that she says that will make a difference to anyone.This country is going to hell.
Anne
Oct. 21st, 2012 at 10:28 am
The only reason Mika B’s salary is an issue at all is because the GOP knows full well that Willard did very poorly when it came to the question of equal pay for women during last Tuesday’s debate. They are trying to help him save face, and that’s all it is, because they never cared before. With their sorry record on women’s reproductive rights, proposals to voucherize Medicare and Social Security which benefits the elderly–most of whom are women, and their efforts at voter suppression which affects women who are among the poor and racial/religious minorities and students–they are the last people who should be talking about equal pay for anyone.
bess moore
Oct. 21st, 2012 at 10:53 am
Great response! I totally agree! Thanx!
bess moore
Oct. 21st, 2012 at 10:52 am
Mika is OVER paid! Joe is Joe! The guests MAKE the show.!
Lydia Reynolds
Oct. 22nd, 2012 at 5:31 pm
This example shows that people have absolutely NO idea what equal pay even means. There is this belief in liberal circles that “equal pay” means getting the same amount of money for showing up. This is the liberal argument. All 8 hours are created equal. Mika does not and cannot do what Joe does. Not because she’s a woman but because she doesn’t bring what he brings. The reality is Mika is worth about 14 times less than Joe. There are probably 100,000 job applicants that bring what she brings to the table; unemployed journalist with a good education, years in the field. And while I’m not a Scarborough fan because I just don’t like him, there are probably 5 people who bring what he brings; ex-member of congress who has had a talk show before and an attorney. The congressional background trumps her for a POLITICAL show. Pay is based on what you bring to the table and what you bring to the table is your experience which in turn determines your value in the market. Mika could be replaced in 12 hours with someone with identical experience. Joe could not. She’s Ed McMahon. He’s Johnny. MSNBC should have never folded on her pay.
Shiva (Moderator)
Oct. 22nd, 2012 at 5:52 pm
No thats not the liberal arguement. Not at all. The argument is, if you do the same job as a man you get paid the same as the man.
No one expect Mika to make the same pay as Joe does. Its his show
Nice try