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Dear Republicans Defending Romney’s 47% Remarks: He Was Talking About You
It turns out that when Mitt Romney attacked 150 million Americans for being dependent on government, he was really targeting the ten red states who don’t pay taxes.
What Mitt Romney said on David Corn’s video was bad enough, but there is a connotation here that Republicans just aren’t getting. You see, Mitt Romney thought he was talking about lazy, poor, and probably in his mind, black Obama supporters when he claimed that there are, “47 percent who are with him, who are dependent upon government, who believe that they are victims, who believe the government has a responsibility to care for them, who believe that they are entitled to health care, to food, to housing,” but the truth is that the majority of food stamp recipients are white.
Even worse for Romney, eight of the top ten states in terms of non-taxpayers are supporting him.
Take a look at the map:
The list of red deadbeat states for Romney includes, South Carolina, Idaho, Texas, Mississippi, Arkansas, Louisiana, Alabama, and Georgia.
So far in 2012, New Mexico and Florida are supporting Obama, but you could probably call Florida a toss up and nobody would complain.
What Republicans in red states who are spending their evening defending Romney need to realize is that Mitt Romney was talking about YOU!
Republicans will no doubt continue to feed the myth that Obama is the food stamp president who has created an army of minorities who are waiting for their government handout, while they head to the local Wal-Mart to use their food stamps to feed their families, and afterwards maybe stop by to check in on their Dad who has some health issues and is on Medicare.
These are the folks in red states who take lots of deductions and get a refund instead of paying taxes.
Mitt Romney’s contempt for those who aren’t Mitt Romney doesn’t respect partisan boundaries. His tax plan isn’t just going to raise taxes on middle class and poor Democrats, but his fellow less wealthy Republicans will also feel the pain.
What the working class heart of the Republican movement doesn’t understand is that Mitt Romney doesn’t like you. He thinks you are a freeloader, but he expects you to still vote for him on Election Day.
Republicans who defend Mitt Romney need to understand that by supporting Romney the tax refunds they are risking are their own.
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ibwilliamwsi
Sep. 17th, 2012 at 10:52 pm
The latest thing in local NC political ads is to slam the opponent by saying He took Obama stimulus dollars! in a menacing voice.
WTH? OF COURSE he or she took stimulus dollars! That’s what you send your representative to congress to do! If he doesn’t take it for our state, someone else will get it but they’re not going to lower YOUR taxes just because you’re too stupid to take your share!
Jeff R
Sep. 17th, 2012 at 11:49 pm
So this explains why for more than 100 years “conservative” (Red) states get subsidized by the Blue States.
– The Red States are greedy and apparently too lazy or incompetent to make an economic success of themselves.
– The Blue States are generous and sufficiently competent economically to generate the surplus money required to subsidize the Red States.
So, the cycle of economic co-dependency continues.
It really is interesting that the states of the old South have never been able to make an economic success of themselves. They have always required subsidies. Initially, the subsidy consisted of low cost slave labor. Now those are dependent on financial subsidies from the more liberal (Blue) states.
majii
Sep. 18th, 2012 at 12:05 am
I live in GA, Jeff, and when any democrat here tries to explain to the conservatives how/why GOP policies don’t work, all he/she gets is, “GA is a conservative state!!!” The entire state could be coming apart at the seams, and they’d still say the same thing. Most of them are Fox viewers and RW radio entertainment junkies, and they believe everything they hear about how republicans are so great and liberalism is a disease. I retired from teaching school after 33 years, Jeff, and although much emphasis has been placed on improving the system of education in the state, nothing can beat the constant barrage of conservative talking points these folks hear day in and day out. I view it as a form of brainwashing because, in what universe can you find people who say they hate the government who elect people who hate the government, and then expect them to solve the problems they, and we, face?
KatzKids
Sep. 18th, 2012 at 4:49 am
Exactly! Every time I hear their complaints – I immediately see pictures of Tea Baggers with their signs “Keep your govment hands off my Medicare” dancing in my head. A perfect representation of their ignorance.
Lori
Sep. 18th, 2012 at 1:24 pm
I know–I keep wondering when they are going to bring out their signs.
Sally
Sep. 18th, 2012 at 8:55 am
Do you not see the hypocrisy? They vote AGAINST the program, and then are first in line with their hands out, then come election time, the demonize the President for daring to start a program with our tax dollars to help their voters.
Robert Racine jr.
Sep. 23rd, 2012 at 12:09 pm
I agree with you all the way, I guess they enjoy being robotic, I wish they have an eye opening event in their lives and see what 47% means to them
sugapea
Sep. 18th, 2012 at 7:19 am
Jason, Could please you give us the link to this ‘Non-Payers by State’ Map?
I would love to be able to link to it in response to the Crazy Misinformed Right-Wing know-it-all’s who think all our problems can be attributed to Dem Blue States.
sugapea
Sep. 18th, 2012 at 7:23 am
Scratch that post. Just came upon it when I clicked the Tax Foundation symbol.
Ladan
Sep. 18th, 2012 at 7:38 am
Funny how he’ll talk negatively about people who use government aid yet his father was on welfare when he came to the U.S. from Mexico and then later became a multi-millionaire, so now that they’re rich they disapprove of anyone who uses welfare yet they wouldn’t be rich if it weren’t for being on welfare because welfare is what helped them get on their feet.
Beaglemom
Sep. 18th, 2012 at 8:57 am
And don’t forget the welfare (tax deduction) for Ann’s horse!
Nancy
Sep. 18th, 2012 at 8:00 am
JC ALL YOU P*** A****!! He was referring the the 47% of the population that PAY NO TAXES WHATSOEVER because they are on Welfare, etc. and they wouldn’t vote for him ANYWAY because they are of the liberal/democratic slant. Liberals just never can grasp the truth about anything if it doesn’t fit into their tiny little SQUARE box and can be shoved into that round hole.
Sally
Sep. 18th, 2012 at 8:52 am
Hey Nancy, about that square box…are you aware that MOST of the people on government aid live in RED states, and hate blacks? So I doubt that they would ever vote for Obama, and I also doubt that they are liberal. Good Lord woman. Control your hate. Liberals work hard, give back, and love this nation. We go to church, we help our kids succeed in school by supporting taxes, we honor our teachers and police. We want safe roads and bridges, clean water and air, and we pay our bills. I have been married 36 years to the same man. We paid off our mortgage 5 years early, never had a late credit card payment, never paid less than the total amount, never had food stamps. I have been working since I was 15….45 years. Most of those jobs were part time, no benefits, but I have a nice savings account and an IRA. My husband has been with the same company for 34 years. Our kids are married, working, have college degrees totally paid for. Grow up and turn off Fox. You are wrong about liberals; you are wrong about the poor; and you are very wrong if you think Romney will do anything to improve this country.
Liz
Sep. 18th, 2012 at 2:57 pm
Your bigotry is showing if you believe that just living in a state that’s red means you hate blacks. Grow-up! The most racist people ARE black. Listen to how they talk to one another.
mjh
Sep. 18th, 2012 at 7:06 pm
“The most racist people ARE black.”
Um, little Lizzie,
‘Twas not black people who enslaved other blacks for 200-plus years in the United States, nor utilized Jim Crow laws for 100 years afterward . . .
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kwood
Sep. 18th, 2012 at 8:27 pm
Hey mjh, I think you need to read up on your history. It was the slaves own countrymen, yes, their fellow Africans who sold them into slavery to the Europeans who brought them to America. Slavery was legal under the US Constitution well before the southern states seceded from the Union.
Shiva (Moderator)
Sep. 18th, 2012 at 8:50 pm
Thats not thw whole story. In many places in Africa the people to be enslaved were just taken. There were other places where blacks seen they could make a profit and stay out of slavery themselves by selling their own country men. By far and away the most slaves were just taken from Africa
MKD
Sep. 19th, 2012 at 7:08 am
Slavery was officially established in Virginia in 1654, when Anthony Johnson, a black man, convinced a court that his servant (also black) John Casor was his for life. Johnson himself had been brought to Virginia some years earlier as an indentured servant (a person who must work to repay a debt, or on contract for so many years in exchange for food and shelter) but he saved enough money to buy out the remainder of his contract and that of his wife. The court ruled in Johnson’s favor, and the very first officially state-recognized slave existed in Virginia. Johnson eventually became very wealthy and began importing more black slaves from Africa, for which he was granted 250 acres (at the time, any person importing a slave would be paid 50 acres per person). Eventually the unfortunate repercussions of this decision would come back to haunt Johnson when his land was confiscated and given to a white man because Johnson “was a Negroe and by consequence an alien.” “The origins of African slavery in the New World cannot be understood without some knowledge of the millennium of warfare between Christians and Muslims that took place in the Mediterranean and Atlantic and the piracy and kidnapping that went along with it. In 1627 pirates from the Barbary Coast of North Africa raided distant Iceland and enslaved nearly four hundred astonished residents. In 1617 Muslim pirates, having long enslaved Christians along the coasts of Spain, France, Italy, and even Ireland, captured 1,200 men and women in Portuguese Madeira. Down to the 1640s, there were many more English slaves in Muslim North Africa than African slaves under English control in the Caribbean. Indeed, a 1624 parliamentary proclamation estimated that the Barbary states held at least 1,500 English slaves, mostly sailors captured in the Mediterranean or Atlantic A North African study suggests that a million or more European Christians were enslaved by Muslims in North Africa between 1530 and 1780 (200+ years.
Sick Of BS
Sep. 19th, 2012 at 2:00 am
@Liz – I love how you called someone else a bigot, but then turned around and said “The most racist people ARE black. Listen to how they talk to one another.”
Talk about cognitive dissonance. You accuse someone else of stereotyping white southerners but then stereotype black people. You broke my irony meter. That’s the same kind of disconnect people who hold up signs like “Get your government hands off my Medicare!” have.
Beaglemom
Sep. 18th, 2012 at 9:13 am
I’m a senior citizen. I receive Social Security and Medicare. My husband and I are fortunate enough to have savings which provide more than half of our income but certainly not all of it. We pay taxes now and always have. We have never complained about taxes as most Republicans do constantly, we never looked for special loopholes (you know, the kind that Mitt Romney has relied on all his adult life) because we’ve never been rich enough for them and, besides, it seems wrong to cheat the government. And we have never owned a horse so we’ve never been able to take a $77,000 tax deduction. We are middle-class voters and we are Democrats. We gladly voted for President Obama in 2008 and will again do so in November 2012.
David
Sep. 18th, 2012 at 10:20 am
There are very few who pay NO TAXES WHATSOEVER. Most of these are the elderly and homeless.
Unemployment benefits are taxed. If you have a job, you pay payroll taxes.
If you spend money on anything other than food, you pay taxes.
It is true that a substantial percentage of the populace doesn’t pay INCOME taxes, but that is because they do not make enough money to pay INCOME taxes.
You wouldn’t look as stupid trying to insult “Liberals” if you demonstrated even a casual understanding of the subject.
MTinMO
Sep. 18th, 2012 at 4:49 pm
47% of the people are NOT on welfare. Welfare as it once was doesn’t exist anymore. Now, there is a 5 year limit on receiving Temporary Assistance to Needy Families (TANF) except for those who are disabled or too ill to work. And there is a work requirement. You don’t get to collect money and sit back in luxury and eat bon bons. Most TANF checks are so pitifully small- as low as $200.00 to $300.00 a month for a mom with a child or two, no one can actually survive on them without additional help.
Even lower wage people pay taxes and pay into Social Security and Medicare. Those wages have to be very low for them to not pay income tax and there is generally state taxes too that comes out of paychecks. Because of deductions created by Congress, some people get most of their income tax back at tax time. Because of child tax credits, some working people get more than they paid back, but you have to meet a lot of conditions for those, including working. If they are receiving assistance that pays over 50% of their support, they don’t qualify. But the fact remains that 47% don’t get “welfare” and that a majority of those who get the most in assistance programs still vote Republican because they don’t seem to understand they are cutting off their own noses.
Reynardine
Sep. 18th, 2012 at 8:41 am
Nancy, dear heart, there is no one in this country who doesn’t pay taxes. If you buy a Hershey bar, you pay taxes. If you buy a pair of socks, you pay taxes. If you buy a gallon of gas, you pay taxes. If you buy electricity, you pay taxes. If you own a house, you pay taxes every year, and if you rent, you’re paying your landlord’s taxes, whether you call it that or not. And now for a suggestion about what you can shove in that round hole…
Jenn
Sep. 18th, 2012 at 10:41 pm
What about like, someone who’s paralyzed from the neck down, that can’t work or drive or buy anything? That person wouldn’t pay any taxes! Or someone who’s a complete vegetable or is in a coma. Also, babies that are just born, before they’re old enough to work or buy anything, they don’t pay taxes either.
SherryDA
Sep. 18th, 2012 at 8:45 am
No Nancy, no matter how you twist it, he was talking about you too….
Sally
Sep. 18th, 2012 at 8:56 am
Here’s a new bumper sticker idea:
“Mitt Romney says half of Americans pay no taxes. Is he one of them?”
kevin
Sep. 18th, 2012 at 9:28 am
How many people has this guy insulted? Is there a running tally?!!!.
Cindy
Sep. 18th, 2012 at 12:05 pm
Robme will not release his Federal Income taxes leaving people to question his ethics; his honesty; why not release what every other presidential candidate has done (including Romney’s father)… release his Federal Income Tax returns and prove that he is paying his fair share of taxes and not cheating the middle class by “sheltering” his million dollar trust accounts held in offshore accounts. It’s a simple request. He will not comply. Why? Perhaps it’s because Robme is one of the people he hates. Shame on you Willard Robme…shame on you!
Lori
Sep. 18th, 2012 at 1:28 pm
Pot, meet Kettle…
TigerLily
Sep. 18th, 2012 at 12:08 pm
The RW constituency is already justifying the guy by reminding us when Pres Obama mentioned the “bible thumping gun totin xtians”. Big diff though..Obama was right. And you just CANNOT COMPARE WHAT ROMNEY SAID TO WHAT OBAMA SAID BACK THEN. YES, Obama offened a bunch of xtian fanatics who want to KILL AMERICANS because we refuse to live and breath like them with all that hate. But look at how many DOMESTIC mass murders we’ve had with these domestic xtian terrorists just in the 4 YEARS since OBAMA’S been in office! Thank romney for firing them up again!
Lucy's Mom
Sep. 18th, 2012 at 12:22 pm
What concerns me is that “47% do not pay taxes”. Really?? In America??? Are almost half of Americans really that poor that they don’t earn enough to pay income tax? That is a very frightening statistic and that alone should make Americans, all Americans, very angry and very scared. Stop pointing fingers and give a helping hand to each other. When that happens all this politicing will seen unnecessary.
A Walkaway
Sep. 18th, 2012 at 1:08 pm
I think they’re also counting children.
Otherwise it wouldn’t make that much sense – or as you pointed out, illustrating just how bad the Republicans have harmed this country.
popmod
Sep. 18th, 2012 at 12:52 pm
Romney has said these things in public many times. Excuse me, but your diversion tactics are showing.
And why do you consider it an “attack?” Did he say anything untrue or negative? I’m wondering why you are hearing it that way.
mjh
Sep. 18th, 2012 at 2:37 pm
If RMoney’s said this many times, how are “our” diversion tactics the ones showing?
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Amy Ainsley
Sep. 18th, 2012 at 4:17 pm
You guys, break down that 47%. Some of those are elderly, poor, disabled. Some are military. Some of those are millionaires who had enough deductions and write-offs to not pay any income taxes! Look it up!
Sick Of BS
Sep. 19th, 2012 at 2:08 am
Note to most of the people defending R(money): Most of the people who pay no taxes at all in the US are rich or corporations. According to the GAO a good percentage of American corporations pay NO taxes or even NEGATIVE taxes (on top of paying 0% net taxes they also get a REFUND). Look at corporations like GE and Carnival.
Almost all poor people have to pay some type of taxes, whether it be federal income tax, federal payroll tax, state income tax, state withholding tax, excise taxes, sales taxes and even some pay property taxes. It’s not that they’re not paying the federal income tax – they pay into it throughout the year and then get a refund on it when they file their 1040s & W2s/W4s because they’re below the minimum threshold for that one tax. Most people on welfare are REQUIRED by law to work and most of them still pay the federal payroll tax, the state income tax and the state withholding tax. Welfare programs are paid for by a combination of state and federal income tax or the state withholding tax (in the case of unemployment benefits), which are taxes they pay into.
No poor person doesn’t pay taxes at all unless they’re homeless, never buy anything or never hold a job that pays over $6,000/year for more than a couple months in their entire life. If they never work they won’t be able to collect welfare after 5 years. So sorry to burst your feel-good bubble but you and your parents aren’t exactly supporting people on welfare on your backs. Like you, most poor people are paying in on the programs they use.
Kevin Shinn
Sep. 19th, 2012 at 6:34 am
Whoa, whoa, whoa there… not me!. I’m white.
Deb
Sep. 19th, 2012 at 5:32 pm
The funniest comments: “tea Baggers”. Really?
Black people are the biggest racists.
And somebody had to bring up slavery.
Thanks for the entertainment folks!
Shiva (Moderator)
Sep. 19th, 2012 at 6:19 pm
Is it enough to be the biggest? Or does that excuse the tea thugs?