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McCain Loses Key Clinton Supporter Over Palin

ImageThe Page blog is reporting that Democratic activist and Hillary Clinton supporter Reba Shimansky has withdrawn her support of John McCain over his selection of Sarah Palin as his running mate.

Shimansky said in a statement, “The Palin selection may have energized the GOP base but it hurts him with independents. I would have voted for McCain if he made a sensible choice for VP like Ridge which would have shown that he was willing to stand up to the rightwing crackpots in his party. Therefore I will be sitting out the 2008 presidential election.” The fact that she used the word crackpots to describe the majority of the Republican Party is evidence that she should not have been supporting McCain in the first place.

Back in June Shimansky announced that she was supporting McCain because she was upset with the way the Democratic Party had treated Hillary Clinton, “The Democratic professionals wanted to please Obama more than Hillary because they valued his supporters more than Hillary’s. I have said that I would do anything in my limited capacity to destroy Obama’s candidacy (who I do not like because of his trashing of Bill Clinton and his accomplishments as president) and the best way to do that is to vote for McCain. It is an emotional not rational vote. My loyalty is to Hillary not the Democratic Party.”

If we can put aside the fact that she was supporting McCain only out of bitterness over Clinton’s defeat, she seems like the kind of supporter that Palin selection was meant to target. This defection is not a good omen for the McCain campaign’s argument to women that Palin’s selection allows women to still make history. Early polling has shown that while voters like Palin, a majority of them don’t believe that she is ready to be president, and so far she has not swung female voters away from Obama.

The Palin pick was a cynical one. It has motivated the Republican base and brought a degree of freshness to his campaign, but many Clinton supporters are insulted by this pick, and they are even more motivated to help Obama. Notice that Shimansky didn’t stick with McCain once she that he had picked a fringe right winger. This may come as a shock to McCain, but women base their votes on the issues too. Palin will get loads of support from Republican women, but they were going to support McCain anyway. I don’t think she swings many female votes away from Obama.

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Shimansky is like some other

Shimansky is like some other Hillary followers, outraged because the selection of Palin hightlights the Democrats snubbing of Hillary. Besides, Hillary's followers are much like Obama's followers, they are following a deity, not supporting a political candidate.

And what has McCain done to

And what has McCain done to garner your support? What has Palin done, period, except LIE on national stage while idiots like you swoon and ignore her lying ways? You are worried you just MIGHT make more than $$250,000 this year because then you won't qualify for an Obama tax break.

what has McCain done

It's hard to believe a person when after introducing herself she lies, Never said what they wanted to do about our economy,health insurance, jobs.You are spot on.

HOW ABOUT SOME REAL CHANGE?

You can banter back and forth all day but you are ignoring the real truth:
We got where we are because of both parties.
IF you are a student of history you can easily see the progression of criminal, treasonous acts by the people that we pay to represent us.
Choose which ever side you wish, Our current criminal has enacted new laws bypassing our bill of rights and the constitution, clinton with nafta and dealings with China, Bush senior with his war profiteering, mining agreements,
Reagan with his private wars...this is but a limited history of our criminals in chief working with our criminals in congress.
YOUR VOTE FOR A DEMOCRAT OR REPUBLICAN IS A WASTE AND ONLY DELAYS THE WORK THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE.

liars, liars, liars

Don't forget that it was LIES that got us into war. Lies that got Bush re-elected (Swift Boat). All they ever do is Lie, knowing that Americans don't read below the TV 60sec spots, or newspaper headlines. They feed us lies over and over hoping we'll think it's 'truth'. Now McCain says he's bringing a 'maverick" to shake up
Washington, while the truth is he is appealing to the conservative base in his party and hoping to get Hiliary Supporters to WIN. He could care less about the American people. His objective is to WIN. And how do you think our foreign counterparts will feel about this new Lying unknown female who just got a passport in 2007. Does she know History....geography, the names of world leaders and what they stand for ?? Are we stupid enough to give her the reigns. Look how Obama was received in Europe ?? With Palin, they would laugh us off the world stage. But after she serves their agenda, they will deep-six her like Cheney & Rumsfeld. Americans, wake up !!

Sad, pathetic obama supporters

Spoken like a true fool, who is jealous of people who make more money! Funny how jealous Obama supporters are and how bitter they are of other people. Socialism is for losers who know they can never make it and just want a free ride from the government. Obama supporters you are all truly pathetic!

McCain the REPUBLICAN

NO. I do believe that you have it twisted. IT IS THE REPUBLICAN PARTY WHO IS PATHETIC. ANY AND EVERYTHING FOR A VOTE. THE RNC EVEN TRIED TO RE-DO WHAT THE DNC HAD DONE. WHAT A JOKE!! ALL THAT THE AMERICAN PEOPLE WANT IS A CHANGE. ITS FUNNY, WHILE OBAMA HAS BEEN USING THE WORD 'CHANGE' AT THE BEGINNING OF HIS CAMPAIGN, ALL OF A SUDDEN, McCAIN IS USING THE WORD 'CHANGE'. I SUPPOSE OBAMA IS A BIGGER THREAT THAN THE REPUBLICAN SUPPORTERS HAD REALIZED. THANK YOU FOR SUPPORTING THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR VOTE FOR 'CHANGE'. YOU ARE A TRUE AMERICAN.

YOUR MUST BE KIDDING

OBAMA HAS MANY MULTI-MILLIONAIRES WHO SURELY WILL FALL INTO A HIGHER TAX BRACKET THAN YOU SUPPORTING HIM.SO I GUESS OPRAH IS JEALOUS OF YOUR LITTLE $250,000 A YEAR INCOME...........THINK BEFORE YOU TYPE IDIOT YOU ARE ABOUT AS SMART AS SARAH PLAIN DUMB

your right about one thing

You speak like a true fool, your blinded by money.At the rate our economy is dropping due to war mongering and an elementary economic policy.All this money you think you have will be worth less than the dirt we stand on. But who am I to tell you who to vote for. Your party needs more politically ignorant people like you they can spoon feed their lie's to you on fox news.

PS: you wanna hear a joke?

SARAH PALIN

enjoy your worthless money 8 )

Sad, pathetic Obama supporters

Anonymous,
You are the pathetic one! All the lies that have come out of the mouths of McCain and Palin and you still vote for them? What is the matter with you people. I used to like McCain. Now I am so dissapointed in him. He wants to be President so bad that he will do anything to get there. I would be willing to bet that he and lipstick on a pig will lose. The American people are not stupid, rich or poor.

we should send this fool to

we should send this fool to Iraq.

you are the sad pathetic Mccain supporter.

Go vote for THe old SAddle Sore and for that airhead lier bimbo.. and see what other crap they will do for this nation just like your good buddy bush.

Go fly a kite you weak pathetic fool.!!

Obama/Bidden

Hillary Supporters

We have been Hijacked when Hillary lost number 1 spot and then he had all that time to pick his VP. He had plenty of time to show us what he is made of for his first executive decision and he picks Joe Biden. I am sorry sister's I have never been a Republican. It's like a Jew for Jesus. Well my thinking says go full circle and if it weren't for Christmas we all would be Jewish. Time not to be a Martyr for the Democrats and Carolyn Kennedy is no master mind.
They would rather have a Black male make history than a more qualified women. I think Sarah Palin will turn more heads create so many oil jobs. Lower the price of energy for our homes and cars. We going to be saying Santa Sarah HO HO HO.

While Obama will be looking at a map saying I thought Georgia had peaches, Lucy explain it to me. Ladies, Women, sister's Sarah needs us to show just how smart women are! Are you coming over with me..Let’s Go! Those days of stand by your man holds us back and for what.

Seriously?

You can't be serious.
I thought Hillary ran a damn good campaign, but she just didn't make it. Obama is the choice., and I'm for him. Maybe Hillary didn't get tapped for Obama's VP because the RNC and the tight-assed Americans would have trashed the combo into oblivion. They would have spent more time defending their race and gender than dealing with the REAL ISSUES that are crippling this country.
I'm a working mother also, and I see Sarah Palin as a token pick, aimed at "sisters" like you who like to think they progressively feminist, but are actually just as sexist as the ol' boys are. The fact that you would rather endorse a person SIMPLY because of gender, while ignoring the issues that are effecting the nation as a whole, shows a lack of understanding. Ms. Palin will do nothing to help out my family's medical care crisis. My wages aren't going to be rocketing upward. In fact, I may not even have a job tomorrow. And you think picking a candidate on the basis of gender is going to make a real change? Are you really serious?

That was a golden message,

That was a golden message, thousand thank yous!!!!

Absolutely! You should vote

Absolutely! You should vote for this Right wing nut who will help you lose any right over your own body, keep your pay low and show all women that substance has little to do with it, you just need a great set of gams!

The point is

The point is that the McCain camp picked as her an attempt to lure Clinton supporters. It is not going to work. The comment above is correct, Clinton supporters are Hillary followers who didn't back her solely due to gender.

Pain selection

This Palin woman has been caught in enough lies already to be able to join the "old boy" clique which has been leading us down the garden path for 8 years. As an independent I had considered giving my vote to McCain. His constant references of his time in Hanoi (was he the only one there? I think not!), his voting record and his sidekicks, ie. Lieberman and Graham, were giving me doubts that he is a "reformer". With his selection of Palin he has shown political expediency ahead of the national good. As a woman I feel the choice was insulting! So many more qualified women around! I will vote Obama! So far his campaign seems to indicate at the very least he has the competence to surround himself with people who know what they are doing. After GW and his merry band of loyalists Obama hopefully will have the acumen to look for competence over loyalty when he picks those who will lead us into the next decade.

As a woman

Replying to "pa(l)in selection:
Very faulty logic from an independent!
Why would you care "as a woman" that McCain chose a woman, independent implies, as I am, open to voting on the issues!
Did you take into account that those other more experienced women would not accept / do not want to be the Vice Pres?! So that's that -- Sarah Palin is not perfect, choice... but remember your vote is for McCain or Obama.
Did you take into account that Obama would be the Pres, the one who "leads into the future" not his choice(s) for VP or cabinet? Obama, who said he love(d) his Pastor Wright for over 20 years,like a brother, then disconnected from him "publicly" for expedience, but surely he has not fooled me, privately still loves the philosophy espoused by Pastor Wright, very bitter about our nation, not good for the USA.

Entitlement

Hilliary and Bill Clinton have a sense of
entitlement which turned many off and they
were not mistreated, in my opinion. The
national pasttime has been bashing President
Bush and he is not whining. The CLintons
should grow up.

And those who follow a

And those who follow a candidate who thinks it takes $5 million/year income to be called "rich" want to talk about entitlement??

are you kidding?

The country wasn't at war under the Clintons. We had a surplus not a deficit. The rest of the world actually liked and respected us. Wake up.

We should have been at war

We should have been at war under the Clintons for the first bombing of the wtc may be then today it would still be standing and 3000 people would still be alive. And he got the surplus from taking a Trillon Dollars from Social Security.At least under Bush we havent had another attack.That should mean more then anything.

"We SHOULD have been at war since 1993..." ?? !!

Brian in typical WingNut fashion writes "We SHOULD HAVE BEEN AT WAR" since the first bombing of the WTC centers back in 1993.

OH - so THAT is why Bush and Cheney did NOTHING to avenge the attack on the USS Cole in October of 2000 - at a time, mind you, when Texas Gov. George W. Bush was SURROUNDED by all his "foreign policy 'experts'" including former Secretaries of War Rumsfeld and Cheney, and of course Colin Powell was a Bush advisor in October of 2000 as well.
The FACTS are, that Cheney and Rumsfeld (much less clueless Bush) DID NOTHING, NOTHING, NOTHING to avenge the suicide bomb attack on the USS Cole in that Yemen Harbor in October 2000, and then Bush and Cheny spent the next 8 months of 2001 IGNORING _ALL_ the CIA, FBI, NSA, Mossad (Israel secret police), Egyptian, Italian, and other intel saying that "AL QAIDA HAS NOT BEEN PUNISHED for the Cole attack, THEY ARE NOW PLANNING SOMETHING BIGGER and MORE SPECTACULAR, probably here in America, THEY ALREADY HAVE CELLS HERE."

By comparison, using COOPERATIVE POLICE WORK, the Clinton administration PROSECUTED the 1993 attack masterminds, and Cheney's national security team STOPPED the "Milenium bomb plot" vs LA airport in December 2000, simply by ALERTING all airport, customs, border, and law enforcement officials to be on the alert.

Cheney and Bush did exactly ONE thing when THEY WERE WARNED, REPEATEDLY, "Al Qaida terrorists planning to attack in America, probably by attacking or hijacking US airliners" -

THEY GAVE ATTORNEY GENERAL ASHCROFT his own private airliner, so he would be out of the line of fire..... LEAVING AMERICAN AIRCREWS and flying PUBLIC EXPOSED to that deadly threat, WITHOUT SO MUCH AS A WARNING!
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2001/07/26/national/main303601.shtml
Brian, your comment is a textbook example of Republican whinning and Right-Wing PROJECTION - you accuse Democrats and "liberals' of EXACTLY your own leader's dastardly policies and horrendous flaws!

Amen

Amen

Entiltement

Agree wholeheartedly!

Independent/Swing Voters

My family all tends to be more or less independent. It probably stems from my mom raising us that way. In this case, my mother and I planned to vote McCain, while my younger brother was leaning towards Obama. With the selection of Palin however, both my mother and I are now planning on voting Obama. I can't speak for everyone, but in my limited experience, this seems like a horrible pick for McCain.

Shimansky picked up on the main reason for my voting reversal. I like McCain because he is willing to be independent and work with either party and to stand up for what he believes in. However, in this case, it feels he chose Palin in order to appease the right-wing GOP. In running for President, it appears he has lost those qualities which made him special. More damning than Palin herself is what her selection says about McCain.

McCain-Palin & Shumansky blog

Vote on issues - McCain has NONE....Too little too late for me!
Signed -
A Republican for OBAMA-BIDEN

Too little to late

Demo for Mc Caine/ All protestor and pacifies ready or not go and hide the enemy is coming and America no longer has a military, and we gave all our money away to people in foreclosure to buy mo snaekers. Our Pres is a toasted marshmellow, Why didn't I listen to Rev. Wright message and think the man is dangerous/Democrate for Mc Caine

Up set with McCain

I am truley sicken by the events that have taken place by the McCain campain. They are spreading hate and insiting unrest in there events where Palin is in charge. That is just the way I see it, Palin is in charge, she is a radical,creating a american divide. Taking us back 60 years. I by the way am a sixty year old white woman whom would never vote for a person with this much hate in her so call christian heart. A true christain woman wound never insite rioting in which she gets sheer pleasure from. I will vote for a Obama. His wife Michelle will make a lovely first lady with a lot of class.

Gov.Palin

Is it true that Governor Palin and her husband wanted to secede Alaska from the lower forty-eight? There are pictures on You Tube.Also is it true her minister is prejudice?

Palin's history on voting

Yes. Yes. Answer to your questions. And there is more to all her firings of influential political constituents. She is a predator who "Uses" you until she no longer needs you and then you are "a castaway". Read about her in the Alaskan newspapers on the internet for everyone to see. People will NOT speak against her for fear of what "Her Power in Government" will do to retaliate. The people who spoke up are no longer in their former government held positions. She turned them lose! But there are a few who are speaking out!

I am someone with "Friends in Alaska"

Here is the letter from Alaska, showing Palin's VENDETTA ways...

http://www.thepresidentialcandidates.us/about-sarah-palin-a-letter-from-...

Here is the letter circulating the internet by an Alaska resident who once supported then Wacilla mayor Sarah Palin, but a lady who can no longer support Gov. Palin due to Palin's vengeful, abusive, vendetta style bullying, theological bais (that, for example, seeks to deprive teenagers of good sex education classes) and abuse of power.

Sarah Palin got her power within Alaska's Republican Party by running the PAC (political action committee) to fund Alaska Repub. Senator Ted Stevens' legal defense - Stevens is the textbook example of corruption and graft in the US senate, a very powerful US senator who could get away with anything, shaking down congress for "pork" for Alaska, because of his built-up seniority. After getting to know Alaska lobbyists, oil men, developers, and other politically active Republicans leading Sen. Stevens' legal defense PAC, the camera-friendly Palin had the "party insider" connections to win the Repub nomination for governor, and she won that Governor's race because by comparison with the incumbent, she looked like a fresh outsider.

Indeed, Alaska, a state with less than a million residents, having TWO SENATORS, and one congressman, while Washington DC residents, with far more than a million residents, don't even have a single voting Representative, is a text-book example of RURAL OVER-REPRESENTATION in the US Congress.

This leads to SOCIALISM FOR "Red" (Republican voting) rural states! Even though of course "Red state Republicans" cry that it is urban cities in "blue" states that are the welfare queens.

Sarah Palin is cut from the same cloth as Dick Cheney and George W. Bush. NO particular competence except propping up Republican insider graft and abuse of power, with a SENSE OF ENTITLEMENT to wreck government programs which help American citizens, on behalf of lobbyists who can never get enough tax breaks and unlimited insider no-bid contracts that (in case of post-Katrina reconstruction and Iraq war contracts), don't even do the job, while looting the US treasury from inside out.

Palin-McCain

I am offended by Palin. Her choice indicates McCain is capable of horrendous bad judgement. The woman is unqualified. If McCain wanted to promote and give the VP spot to a woman he could have offered it to a woman who had put in the time and had a good education, decent qualifications, vetting and a family life that didn't qualify for a stint on Jerry Springer. Women like Kay Baily Hutcinson, Carley Fiorino or Elizabeth Dole come to mind. Just cynically picking a "babe with boobs" is infuriating. McCain is a sexist of the worst sort. He doesn't know there is a difference between competent women and frauds.

Dole, and others...

There is a long list of Republican women who would have been better choices than Palin. I would think that if a campaign is running on experience, then they would pick a running mate that either has experience or a speciality in a policy area, but to pick someone who looks the part over others in the party who have better qualifications says a great deal about what the neocons value, and just how much of his soul John McCain has sold to get the nomination. I really understand why McCain felt the need to break out of the GOP mold, but picking someone for reasons other than their own merits, has to raise questions about how a President McCain would govern.

Palin-McCain

I agree with you absolutely. McCain's choice of Palin shows profound poor judgment and incredible irresponsibility. In fact, the thought of Palin as president is horrifying! Palin would be nothing more than a puppet for the greedy-corrupt Washington insiders, and the fat cats on Wall street will be unable able to contain their unmitigated glee, as they behave more recklessly and shamelessly than ever, while robbing and raping the U.S. treasury. Moreover, this country would be immobilized and prostrate by enormous debt, giving China the courage, impetus, and opportunity it needs invade and conquer the country. McCain/Palin presidency would be a nightmare of epidemic proportions: Doomsday!!

The thing is you can't

The thing is you can't please everyone no matter who McCain picks,but I see a freshness about her and I think she would even be a better president than obama.You have to love this country first to be a good president!!

Get Real!!!!!!

First, let me say as an intelligent woman who is concerned about the issues I am highly insulted that McClain thinks American women are that STUPID!!! Does he really believe just because he picked a women out of nowhere with a resume all of one page could possible be a pick for the 2nd most important position in the country. I mean GET REAL!!!! It scares me to no end just the thought of her running the United States of America when she can't even run her own family. Oh, please people wake up and smell the coffee. Come on now, are you not tired of the entire world laughing at us already because of George Bush. Now, they really can't stop laughing at us. No way on this God's green earth is this person right for running a country that has so many problems as it does now. I am an independent and no way will I vote for McCain. Just his choice of Palin has already justified the fact that he is not fit to run this country. Come on people it's time to give this country back to the people.!!!

OMG! Do you REALLY think

OMG! Do you REALLY think that Palin LOVEs this Country as much as she LOVES HERSELF! Please! She is a Predator (Barracuda in her own words!) She "Uses" people to GET WHAT SHE WANTS FOR HERSELF and HER CAREER (If that is what you call it...a career of bashing people and stripping people of their dignity, which she has none! Real women will vote for OBAMA-BIDEN...and see through the shallow person PALIN really is. Sorry, if I in anyway, offended your choice. But, I am a strong defender of the Issues as Obama has laid them out over and over, issues on Social Security, Healthcare, Education, the Right to Choose, etc. McCain has not told us anything except PALIN would bring reform to Congress. I worry about her kind of Reform.

OMG! Do you REALLY think

OMG! Do you REALLY think that Palin LOVEs this Country as much as she LOVES HERSELF! Please! She is a Predator (Barracuda in her own words!) She "Uses" people to GET WHAT SHE WANTS FOR HERSELF and HER CAREER (If that is what you call it...a career of bashing people and stripping people of their dignity, which she has none! Real women will vote for OBAMA-BIDEN...and see through the shallow person PALIN really is. Sorry, if I in anyway, offended your choice. But, I am a strong defender of the Issues as Obama has laid them out over and over, issues on Social Security, Healthcare, Education, the Right to Choose, etc. McCain has not told us anything except PALIN would bring reform to Congress. I worry about her kind of Reform.

REPUBLICAN FOR OBAMA/BIDEN 08

I decided this year to vote for Obama/Biden 08. I have always voted republican -well except once when I voted for Ross Perot -- who by the way happened to be right about NAFTA and the giant sucking sound it would make if we did NAFTA that way.

I think Obama/Biden are a great team and will be great leaders. They do love the country and that is why they don't want to see what has been happening continue on its path.

We have to make the country stronger.

Don't get me wrong - I admire John McCain and his service to the country, I don't know of anyone that does not respect that. But, at this time we do need a change to try and move things along and that is not going to happen with GOP in office this election.

I can also tell you that just because GOP put Palin on the ticket - you are right that has not changed minds of any females I have talked with.

You have to love this country first to be a good President.

Bull, ask Sarah why Todd Palin was a part of a group, that wanted to secede from the USA. Why don't you check it out for yourself. They wanted Alaska to remove itself from the Union. So how can you say something about love of country? What country?

Wake up America!

Yeah, Yeah, Yeah Mc Cain also saw a "Freshness" about her. There were many other more qualified candidates to choose from. Why Palin? This is a disgrace to the Republicans. I changed my mind, I am voting for Obama. Maybe there is truth in why McCain defended his running mate. I am taking a closer look in why I didn't like Obama in the first place. But, as I look further, I am sorry to say it was because he is a Black Man..... I looked at Race! I am sorry for looking at the color of his skin! I rather have a Harvard Law graduate as president of the United States than.......God forbid Palin as President! People wake up and smell the coffee! We want change not more of the same. Go to the polls and vote Obama/Biden. A much better team!

Where in the Constitution Does it Specify Patriotism?

The patriotism argument is moronic for this reason. Everybody who gets into public service regardless of party affiliation loves their country. The truth is that public service is thankless. No matter what you do, someone is going to hate you for it, and if you are a terrible public servant like W, you ruin your reputation and legacy. Even though I disagree with 99% of what Bush has done, I don't question his love of country. Palin may love her country, but just like W. this trait does not make her qualified to be a competent public servant. Obama loves his country just as much as anyone else, so don't even try to play the patriotism card here.

This political race is for

This political race is for the birds, I lose all respect for those who have to paint a bad picture of their opponants just to win. They (both partys) build such a false platform and spend 2 years trying to tell the biggest lies possible. God bless you. We don't have honest poltitians

If you still miss the Ed

If you still miss the Ed Sullivan show and Perry Como, you'll love the new McCain/Palin illusion act!

Palin not a pro-woman woman.

If McCain was intending to pick a female v.p. candidate to appeal to the Hillary voters, he should have picked a pro-choice Republican woman with a lot of experience, like Olympia Snow or Susan Collins. Hillary people are not going to vote for a ticket with a very reactionary, anti-choice woman like Palin.

Palin

She helps McCain hold the Rep base voters...but not much else...
So where will the Reagan Dems go this time...

This is going to be very close!!!

Palin/McCain

These two are a perfect pair. He lies about his P.O.W. years (check out all the Veterans websites that are against him, including men who served with him and some who were P.O.W.'s with him, too.) The man is a fraud, not a hero. Palin is a religious zealot who is anti-sex education and anti-abortion but vetoed a bill to aid unwed teenage mothers needing a places to live; tried to ban books from the library; is suing Congress to stop an act to protect polar bears; kills wolves from airplanes & pays hunters $150 for each wolf leg they bring her; has the worst environmental record of any governor; took more earmarks from Congress than any other state per capita; and has had several lawsuits filed against her and her husband, not even counting the one still pending.

Desperate liar

How dare you little faggot attack John McCains heroic efforts! When you get on your knees, instead of sucking it, why don't you pray for forgiveness for yor lies..

Sarah Palin and McCain

What's a faggot?? What are you sucking?? Do you think this inflamatory language makes your statement more powerful?? SURPRISE...it doesn't!!!

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