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It Exists: Details on proposed spending cuts by the President
By: Sarah JonesDec. 13th, 2012more from Sarah Jones
Republicans and the media are still pretending that Obama has put forth no budget cuts, yet he has a very detailed plan on the White House blog for anyone to read, whereas Republicans have put forth a two page blank slate yet again.
Yet another surreal moment. As far as I am aware, there’s no automatic stop on the Internet that prohibits Republicans or the press from obtaining this information.
Why then, is this happening over and over again? An example from December 11:
(emphasis mine)
MR. CARNEY (White House spokesperson): Let me take your questions in relative order. First of all, I did hear what the Speaker of the House had to say, and I would note that if there is one fact that should not be in dispute it ought to be this: The President, unlike any other party to these negotiations, has put forward detailed spending cuts as well as detailed revenue proposals. It is a simple fact that the President put those forward to the not-so-super super committee in September of 2011, and that he again, in the process of these negotiations, put them forward as his position when it came to both the revenue that was required to achieve the kind of balanced deficit reduction package on the scale of $4 trillion that was necessary, as well as very specific spending cuts, including savings in entitlement programs.
And again, it’s not a mystery. We’ve seen this before. This is the document that contains the specific spending cuts. The Speaker of the House sent us a proposal that was two pages long that included one sentence on revenue. The proposal here includes, I believe, from pages 17 to 45, details on proposed spending cuts by the President — pages 17 to 45. I recommend them to you.
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Q Jay, how do you explain this enormous disconnect that you say the President has put forward spending cuts, and yet today Speaker Boehner and Senator McConnell say no, you haven’t. There’s no leadership on that. They haven’t gotten any. Isn’t that something you need to address?
MR. CARNEY: I have. And I think I made –
Q — pages 17 through 45, is that –
MR. CARNEY: I’m making it clear that that assertion is incorrect. We all know it is because we have access to the computer. I don’t have any more hard copies for you, but I can give you the link.
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Q Do you understand why the Republican leaders might say they didn’t receive any when you say they have?
MR. CARNEY: Mark, can we just end the charade here that we say they have?
Q Well, we didn’t go to the floor of the Senate and the House saying this. They did.
MR. CARNEY: No, no. But it’s not that we say one thing and it might be true, and they say one thing and it might be true. This is a real piece of — this is a real document here with pages and tables and numbers.
Now, I understand they may not agree with all of it, but it exists and it was put forward.
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This continued with reporters asking for specifics on what might have changed in negotiations. A fair question — but we have 2 pages from Republicans, with a single sentence dedicated to revenue, reminiscient of their 2009 proposal that contained no actual budget numbers (another year they blew the font up to make up for lack of content, and then there was Paul Ryan’s Path to Prosperity with much pontificating and not a lot of actual numbers). Perhaps someone ought to ask them when they might get around to a wee bit of detail — especially since technically, it is their specific job to come up with budgets and they don’t appear to be doing much else.
The President’s plan offers $ 4 Trillion in deficit reduction over the next 10 years. The mysterious document that may or may not exist? It’s right here (hidden under “budget”). Also, in detail, tables.
It’s not as if Obama has a reputation for fiscal recklessness, like Republicans do. Under Obama, federal spending has grown at 1.4 percent per year, the slowest pace since Eisenhower, and far lower than the 8.7 percent in President Reagan’s first term. This includes the money spent on the stimulus to rescue us from the Bush economy. It was Republican Paul Ryan who refused to do the math on his budget, not President Obama.
Yet, the media buys the Republican line that they don’t have these budget cut proposals. Further, we are all to suspend disbelief and pretend as if Republicans have no access to the Internet, if in fact they never got their hard copy. This is how paid representatives of the people conduct themselves.
We all very busy pretending Republicans are suddenly serious people who actually care about the deficit and even though they only presented a 2 page document with one sentence relating to revenue, the real problem is that they can’t find Obama’s budget proposal because he is hiding it from them. And now we must pretend that Republicans shouldn’t be held responsible for reading things and admitting they exist.
The media needs to admit the Obama budget cut proposal exists and that Republicans have access to it, and stop pretending that there are two sides to reality.
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djchefron
Dec. 13th, 2012 at 9:38 am
The reason repubs dont offer spending the cuts its because they cant.IMO they just dont know how government works.Cut defense? No way their campaign bribers in the defense industry and since most plants are in red districts their base will allow it.As mush a they talk raising eligibility age for medicare, sure they will go along with it but if you think boner and the teabag brigade will propose that without Democrats full approval then that tri -corn hat you wearing is 2 sizes to small.So unless you just a sociopath the only meaningful cuts would come on the backs of the very poor.Then you would have cause and effect.Take for example Texas.They cut all funding for Planned Parenthood.So no more birth control guess what births shot up and now the state will pay more than what ever meager funds they “saved”.You really want to cut spending then cut one of the main drivers of the budget and that would me health care.Even with the ACA that saved over a billion dollars last year mindful its not fully implemented the republican party is still fighting it.Go single payer and the savings would be enormous.But you cant do that because that’s not the free market. Go figure.The President should do what Michael Corleone did in the Godfather.lick to see.That is all
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Churchlady
Dec. 13th, 2012 at 10:03 am
Who is “Mark” who asked Carney this incredibly stupid question? This assertion by the media that the GOP are serious and that the WH is constantly keeping information from those poor elected officials is OUTRAGEOUS.
Mark, whoever he is, should be fired or put out to the society issues. This is ridiculous – we have reporters shilling for the most intellectually bankrupt party in the past 60-plus years (only the GOP under HUAC and McCarthy comes to mind.)
Carney gave them the link. Now, reporters with White House credentials, go READ it. Then pull up your big boy pants and behave like adults!
Kathy
Dec. 13th, 2012 at 11:44 am
You know Obamacare isn’t even available here in Texas, I am denied any and all healthcare because I have no money. I have hep c and need blood work done, I suffer from severe depression and am denied it because this state is breaking the law, please Mr. President make Texas and all the other states who are breaking the law stop it and just let people like me get the help I need.
Shiva (Moderator)
Dec. 13th, 2012 at 11:51 am
Obamacare is available, although not yet fully in place. Obamacare is not insurance. It will set up exchanges that allow you to buy insurance with lower costs. You will still have to have private insurance plans. Texas is the one stopping the exchanges.
Paws
Dec. 13th, 2012 at 12:10 pm
Please go to healthcare.gov and review the information there. Millions of people have obtained insurance at an affordable premium right now for those with pre-existing conditions who are denied private insurance, do not get insurance benefits through their employer, and have been uninsured for six months or more.
You may be able to find the help you need to get your condition treated.
The unfortunate thing is that Texas has refused to setup their exchanges and they have decided they will not do Medicaid expansion. This one on Medicaid, however, may not stay in place because the Sec. of Health has sent a letter to the states refusing to expand Medicaid telling them they will lose ALL Medicaid funding if they do not follow the law and expand it as required.
I truly hope you find the help you need.
The specific page that you need to view is at www.healthcare.gov/law/fe...
clarence swinney
Dec. 13th, 2012 at 11:51 am
SUCCCESS FAILURE
Obama
added 8 years to Medicare solvency
recovered 10.7 B in crackdown on fraud
preventative services to 47M
800,000 youths added to parents insurance
unemploy=8.6% in 2011—5.4% in 1996
Jack
Dec. 13th, 2012 at 12:17 pm
Well Its time we send the detailed plans in emails to all our Dems and Republicans and “journalists” .
Brian Loudermilch
Dec. 13th, 2012 at 12:17 pm
Tell John Bone-Head to Hire a 6th Grader to download the budget document from the Internet for Him.
It’s OK. John Bone-Head can waste as much time
as He wants. January 1, 2013 is going to arrive shortly.
JJM
Dec. 13th, 2012 at 3:00 pm
GOP=lazy AND unable to fathom anything but what they want — if it’s not what they want, it doesn’t exist. Childish.
Nancy Reese
Dec. 13th, 2012 at 6:42 pm
It’s the same old GOP ploy…repeat a lie often enough…
The media has failed the American public for over 10 years now. Let them do their job…do their research…and reveal the truth to the people. Or get out of the business!
Elphie
Dec. 14th, 2012 at 10:32 pm
OK -so I sent Boehner (www.speaker.gov/contact) an email with the White House link to “Cuts,Consolidations,and Savings/Budget of the U.S. Government” (www.whitehouse.gov/sites/...).
He now has no excuse, he has the link!!