Comments on: The Forest and the Trees: How Extreme Ideologues Destroy the Left’s Unity

By: Dorie

Dorie — Sat, 16 Jun 2012 15:18:33 +0000

Discouraged from Wisconsin. Let me just say, we have a bigger issue than the ideology. The only votes that will be counted in this election will be the right ones.

When folks are still waiting in line to vote and the Dem concedes the election, there is something wrong with the election process.

This is more disruptive to people who want to vote than any ideology talk.

Money wins, my friend.

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By: Shiva (Moderator)

Shiva (Moderator) — Sat, 16 Jun 2012 14:26:26 +0000

I dare say that if you(we) vote the gop in, it will be the last election that the dems as victors see possibly for a very long time.

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By: Anne

Anne — Sat, 16 Jun 2012 14:20:46 +0000

One of our biggest problems as Americans is our penchant for instant gratification, even when it comes to solving long-standing and seeminly intractable problems in our society. That’s one of the reasons for blaming the president for the fact that not more progress is made, along with turning a blind eye to the obstructionist Republicans in Congress. That’s why it makes absolutely NO sense to vote for a president like Barack Obama on one hand, but on the other vote for GOP governors like John Kasich, Scott Walker, Rick Snyder, or Rick Scott, or Congressmembers like John Boehner, Rick Cantor, or Michele Bachmann. Their destructive policies have a more immediate and direct impact on their citizens. Just the other day, a man from Silver Spring, Maryland, posted a letter in the Washington Post specifically referring to the published complaint in that paper on Sunday, June 10, that the president has not done enough to address the problems of racial and economic inequities. IMHO, the Silver Spring responder nailed it exactly when he not only cited the American trait of desire for instant gratification. He also said it is “childish and injurious” to the well-being of this country because no one person can unilaterally address the long-standing racial inequities or the irresponsible and reckless “leadership” of the 8 years of GW’s administration. He also mentioned the necessity of strategic voting, which would have ruled out voting in a president with one set of goals and a Congress with a reactionary party dominating one Congressional house and a dominant party in the other which doesn’t often have the 60 votes necessary to overrule the reactionaries in that house.
In a nutshell, his statement amounted to a warning for Americans to “grow up.” That political silliness and immaturity among too many of us is what the likes of the Koch brothers and their ilk exploit to their advantage and to the disadvantage of those of us not among the 1%. I can only imagine how chaotic it would be if we ran our personal lives that way.

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By: Shiva (Moderator)

Shiva (Moderator) — Fri, 15 Jun 2012 01:02:53 +0000

Socialism? yeah like the military.

I think socialism is about the least of our fears.

Your take is valid

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By: Andrew Ray Gorman

Andrew Ray Gorman — Fri, 15 Jun 2012 00:26:02 +0000

“Hey, you socialists, stop wanting to elect those who actually hold to your ideology! Just think, a Republican can win!”

Both mainstream Republicans and Democrats are capitalist. Further, that article plays upon fear, which seems to be the only argument anyone can have in electing a Democrat. Fear. You play upon the fears of the working class, keeping them from moving towards socialism.

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