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The Meltdown Gets Ugly as Conservatives Attempt a Coup to Overthrow Boehner
The #FireBoehner hashtag really took off last night on Twitter. No, it wasn’t started by evil liberals – it was the conservatives at American Majority Action (AMA) who started it. The gang smelled blood and the sharks are circling. The Daily Caller was promoting their version of online activism to “dispose” Boehner of his speakership.
They’re mad at a “secret list” they think Boehner used to purge several “real conservatives” from House committees. Republican Reps. David Schweikert, Justin Amash and Tim Huelskamp come up often in these circles, with Freedom Works urging members to call Boehner’s office in order to instruct him to stop kicking real conservatives, such as the above three, from committees.
Conservatives suspect that Speaker Boehner (R-OH) was behind The Republican Steering Committee (Boehner chairs it) voting to remove Reps. Justin Amash (R-MI) and Tim Huelskamp (R-KS) from the House Budget Committee.
Who is going to tell these angry conservatives that it is reasonable to assume that Amash and Huelskamp were kicked off at the request or at least mention of Paul Ryan (R-WI), their hero at large? Ryan was after all kept on by the very same Steering Committee as budget chairman, in spite of his inability to do math on the campaign trail.
See, Amash and Huelskamp voted against Paul Ryan’s budget because it did not cut spending enough. Yes, that budget — the one the nuns protested for immorally cutting funding to needy Americans. These two are quite literally destroying the Republican Party’s image (as if that was hard to do at this point). Party leadership must feel they had to be cut off from having the ability to obstruct the GOP from making deals they need to make in order to spare their reputation more damage (read: fiscal cliff deal).
No doubt Boehner agrees that these guys have to go if the Republican Party is going to have a fighting chance of not taking the total blame for yet another fiscal cliff/debt ceiling debacle. Boehner is not stupid. He has been, however, ineffective as a Speaker, but he’s also been placed in a horrible position by the Tea Party and he waited too long to grab the reins. He knows his career is on the line, and that’s why he’s threatening panel assignments and reminding his party that leadership is watching their votes.
In typical Republican fashion, the Party let the losers learn about their ouster the hard way – with the public, on the Internet from the media. Not cool, but this is the Republican Party. Authoritarianism is all fun and games until you’re on the wrong side of it.
So the conservatives’ plan is to get 16 Republicans to refuse to vote for Boehner for Speaker in the new session, so that they can get “real conservative” ideas passed. Now, by real conservative ideas, we are not talking Paul Ryan crazy, but rather worse than Paul Ryan. Believe it.
Erick Erickson’s Red State blogger Ned Ryun wrote, “If conservatives want to keep the House and win the Senate, we need to fire John Boehner as Speaker of the House. We only need 16 House votes to do it.” Obviously Ryun doesn’t read polls any better now than conservatives did before the election results destroyed their carefully constructed denial. They are not going to win the Senate back with this approach. The public distrusts extremism in all forms and while the localized House can get away with it, it is much harder to win a Senate seat as an extremist.
Matthew Boyle of Breitbart tweeted:
When asked on the record, Boehner spokesman Michael Steel would not dispute existence of secret list used in #Purge #Fireboehner
— Matthew Boyle (@mboyle1) December 6, 2012
Which the ever helpful Michelle Malkin retweeted:
MT @mboyle1: Boehner, Cantor and McCarthy won’t release secret criteria document they used for #purge: bit.ly/11A3o5n
— Michelle Malkin (@michellemalkin) December 5, 2012
No one is going to accuse these folks of being politically savvy. Read the AMA’s statement from the the Daily Caller:
“Speaker Boehner has been an abysmal failure as speaker, and his latest purge is the nail in the coffin for conservatives,” said Ned Ryun, president and CEO of AMA. “Boehner has never won a negation [sic] battle with the White House or Senate — and he’s been nothing short of an embarrassing spokesman for the conservative movement. It’s time for him to go.”
But some realize that these conservatives can’t see in front of them. A Ron Paul Libertarian tweeted:
Paul Ryan: pro-bailouts, pro-TARP, pro-Stimulus. If you want to #fireBoehner & replace w/Ryan, you’re part of the problem. #tcot #gop
— Simon Albert (@RonPaul2012FTW) December 6, 2012
Even if they could get 16 Republicans to refuse to vote for Boehner, they would have to get the votes (218) for “real conservative”, as defined by them, and that is not going to happen. Remember, boys, Big Brother is “watching your votes.” You play, you pay.
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21 Responses to The Meltdown Gets Ugly as Conservatives Attempt a Coup to Overthrow Boehner
Paws
Dec. 6th, 2012 at 7:10 am
They are reaping what they’ve sown. The GOP “leadership” allowed the wingnuts to take over their party and now they are dealing with the consequences.
You’ll have to excuse me for not feeling sorry for them one bit.
Mark L.
Dec. 6th, 2012 at 7:46 am
Why is it that the right is so divisive, they even have fractures within their own movement?
labrat
Dec. 6th, 2012 at 7:59 am
Dear Santa: Please bring more popcorn. I’m running low….
SinghX
Dec. 6th, 2012 at 8:10 am
Can I use these two words to describe the both factions within the GOP, “crybaby anarchist”?
Seems to me that they are all scary-dee-cats and aren’t willing to fall on the grenade for the good of thier party or ideals; all of them still want to blame someone or something else for all “their” problems (“F” the country)!
There is no way to predict an outcome or any kind of end-point with these crybaby whiner-demanding radical anarchist–the only thing uniting them and their party is the blame game.
And the blame game never ends; it’s an irrational black hole in which they are drowning themselves
…sort of like “the Grover” plan to drown the government in the bath tub only it didn’t go as planned; GOP are the ones rushing toward the drain.
Reynardine
Dec. 6th, 2012 at 8:32 am
Fan a wildfire and you’ll burn in it.
Reynardine
Dec. 6th, 2012 at 8:36 am
Nota bene: my Facebook email is haywire. It has been shut down for spam, which I’m not sending.
djchefron
Dec. 6th, 2012 at 9:27 am
In a thread that was about boner kicking crazy eyes of the intelligence committee{I know a oxymoron}I said he didn’t have the cojones to say no to the Taliban.Its still early but I might have been wrong.In the coming days look out for what Cantor does.He is a snake a quisling that would stab the orange one in the back for that speakership.If the sane repubs was waiting for chance to get their party back from the crazies now is the time for a purge.
SickupandFed
Dec. 6th, 2012 at 10:21 am
rotflmbao
But please! Do us a favor.
Report on them but refrain from giving them any advice within your reporting. Let them do it their way. It really will benefit us more that way.
Thanks
Reynardine
Dec. 6th, 2012 at 11:30 am
See here, Sickup, if they were in the habit of taking advice from Sarah Jones, the country would look a whole lot better
Karen Roberts
Dec. 6th, 2012 at 5:36 pm
Please sickup, stop just saying things for your party. I am a democrat and proud of it, but I am also a citizen and patriot of this country. We should all want the sick republicans to get well. Let us not hate monger ourselves.
Jo Hargis
Dec. 6th, 2012 at 11:02 am
Hah, gotta love this. It’s nothing more than an attempt at a coup, the tea party trying to take over the control of the House. They’re too utterly stupid to figure out, we just rejected them, and we’ll reject the rest of them in ’14. This is one time (please forgive me) I’m on Boehner’s side.
While I do agree Boehner has largely been ineffective, I haven’t always thought it was necessarily his fault. After all, look at what he’s had to deal with in these teabagger extremists. But on the other hand, it IS his party and they DID allow this to happen. Oh well, pass the popcorn!
Sandra
Dec. 6th, 2012 at 1:36 pm
Oh Oh, looks like the crazies are ready to takeover the asylum, lock, stock and barrel and destroy what’s left of Lincoln’s Party. Guess they didn’t get the message on November 6th, that their ideas are too extreme and good and sane citizens rejected them.
Ron
Dec. 6th, 2012 at 12:23 pm
Neoconservative =/= conservative.
I’m a conservative. I believe the government should be divided up more, letting state and local governments handle more of the issues because I could easily be a mayor. I would need a strong reputation in government as well as a lot of money and friends to become president or congressman.
I believe America should conserve its land and beauty by becoming a green energy nation.
I believe education is the most important thing to growing America, and we should look abroad for the fix to our system.
I believe we are the protectors of the western hemisphere, not the Middle East.
I have many beliefs that make me conservative, but neoconservativism means abandoning conservativism for facism when convenient. Please stop linking me to these people.
Lynda Harrison
Dec. 6th, 2012 at 3:13 pm
Hey Ron, you make some very good points. My thoughts are you consider yourself a conservative because you have a way of life to conserve. These so-called Tea Party mobsters can in no way be called conservatives. They seem to be bent on destroying America and the American way of life. I can see where those one percenters would align themselves to the philosophy of conserving (and adding to) the size of their own pockets at the expense of the rest of us; however, I am baffled when it comes to those among the 98% who would subscribe to these destructive philosophies.
James
Dec. 6th, 2012 at 12:43 pm
Actually Paul Ryan’s budget would cut expected *increases* in spending over ten years, not even addressing what is currently spent now. You should turn your emotions off when reporting, politicususa. Hyperbole tends to ruin what you try to present at facts.
On that note, these conservatives have been conservative years before this last election, some being lone voices of staunch conservatism. This “fiscal cliff” (note: yes a real thing) has stemmed not from hyperpartisanship, but hyper BY-partisanship. While the intentions were usually pure to reach deals, it always leads to more and more spending and subsequent taxes to supplement it. Somebody needs to stand up the never-ending cash machine that robs the taxpayers and demand we stop spending.
It’s too bad that whoever those people are will be deemed “obstructionists”. I guess if greater than 50% of the country wants to cannonball off the fiscal cliff into depravity, let’s go. But don’t start crying when it’s time to rebuild.
Shiva (Moderator)
Dec. 6th, 2012 at 12:48 pm
At the same time Ryan stifles jobs, ruins peoples lives, lowers the value of education and the big one…yes…raises nothing to pay off our debts.
Andrew Rei
Dec. 6th, 2012 at 2:06 pm
This article outlines the first shots across the bough in the GOP Civil War…that war is just getting started, people…expect it to get much worse…Here’s some truth that’ll make things even worse for the GOP:
The debt ceiling is actually unconstitutional…the 14th amendment says, in part, that the national debt cannot be questioned. All the President has to do is to abolish it and there’s nothing the GOP can do about it except cry and whine like little babies. Sen. McConnell even suggested that the President do this during the debt ceiling debacle last year, thinking that doing such a thing would allow the eventual GOP nominee to defeat him in the election. Well, the President was re-elected, so, he can do this and there’s no political price to pay.
Regarding the fiscal cliff/slope/curb/molehill: if the Democrats and the President agree to benefit cuts to Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid and the top 2%, plus the big corporations, get out of this with their far-too-low tax rates and corporate welfare/deductions, it’ll be a crying shame. I’ve noticed over the past two days that GOP talking heads are saying ridiculously b*llsh!t things, like raising tax rates on the wealthy and big corporations and eliminating corporate welfare would only bring in about $100 billion per year. Nope…doing that would bring in $831 billion per year…if you add a reduction of $175 billion from the defense budget (which is more than $600 billion, equal to that of the next 15 countries’ budgets COMBINED), our budget would be balanced ($831 billion plus $175 billion = $1.06 trillion; last fiscal year had a deficit of $1.03 trillion). When you add the fact that there are “tweaks” (mainly, the elimination of waste through eliminating lesser effective parts of the program) that can be made to Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid (not benefit cuts, which is what the GOP wants to do), the surplus would be bigger and can be applied to the national debt.
In…
TnkAgn
Dec. 6th, 2012 at 3:58 pm
“Purge.” How appropriately Stalinesque.
Rizzo
Dec. 6th, 2012 at 8:46 pm
I never thought I would reminisce about the moderate policies of the Reagan years and the Moral Majority. I never thought I would see the day when I would consider Bush Sr. and Jr/Cheney as those who espoused the voice of reason. Now the day has come where John Boehner, by all comparisons of shrill hysteria on the right, seems like a rational, well reasoned statesman. God help us.
djchefron
Dec. 6th, 2012 at 9:30 pm
I think god is going to sit this one out.Now if the stock price of popcorn rises then that means god is enjoying the clown show.
A Walkaway
Dec. 7th, 2012 at 1:20 pm
I am glad for a little good news… every little bit helps!