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Fox News Viewers Threaten Woman for Challenging Their Beloved Rape Culture
I love how those freedom fighters on the far right attack free speech when it’s a woman doing the speaking. When a women dares to suggest that maybe instead of telling women what they should do to prevent rape, the time has come to tell men why they shouldn’t rape.
That was the central point of Zerlina Maxwell’s comments during an appearance on Fox News. The subsequent reaction by the great minds of the far right illustrates the central attitude problem that they have when it comes to women who comment on something other than recipes, shopping and make-up.
Following Zerlina’s Fox News appearance, some of those classy he man who tune in to FNC for their daily dose of right wing propaganda behaved as one might expect. Zerlina was subjected to racist comments and death threats.
She discussed the threats on The Ed Show:
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Gee, I wonder what provoked these hotshots. Were they threatened because Zerlina made a valid point and did so effectively? Were they threatened by the fact that a woman made a point at all? Maybe it was the prospect that the land of the free might place blame for rape on the rapist instead of calling it a blessing or suggesting that the victim must have done something, like leave the house unescorted to deserve it.
I thought conservatives believed in personal responsibility. Why doesn’t the right wing’s definition of personal responsibility include telling men that no means no and if they refuse to accept that, they will be held accountable under the law?
If we shift the responsibility for rape from the victim to the rapist that would mean recognizing that rape violates a woman’s autonomy over her body. It would involve recognizing that rape is about the rapist wanting power over his prey, rather than about the woman’s behavior or sexuality. It would mean understanding that rape is not about what a women wears or if she has an alcoholic beverage or that she goes out in public alone.
If the onus is on women to protect themselves from rape, rather than on men learning why they shouldn’t do it, why was rape considered a “fringe benefit” of war for most of history?
Starhawk [Digest #7] has shown that throughout history, rape has been an omnipresent aspect of militarism, and to this day, basic military training establishes women as targets for sexual conquer. This endemic of sexual violence against women in conflict zones reflects an ingrained misogyny which views women as the “spoils of war.” Whether for satisfying the sexual appetites of the troops or destroying the community pride of the vanquished they are punishing women who have resisted their conquerors, or as part of an overall strategy of genocide.
Gaining recognition that rape is a war crime because it was used as a weapon against women was a long struggle. In fact, it wasn’t until the Genocidal wars in Bosnia and Rwanda, that international law reflected the reality that rape during war was used as the ultimate weapon against women. In other words, women were raped to dehumanize and objectify them. It had nothing to do with what they were wearing or what they were drinking.
If rape is strictly about sex it begs the question why did the ICTR recognize in the Akeyesu case, that it is a: a war crime b: it has several elements in common with torture c: it can be an act of genocide:
Like torture, rape is used for such purposes as intimidation, degradation, humiliation, discrimination, punishment, control or destruction of the person.” Like torture, rape is a violation of personal dignity, and … in fact constitutes torture when it is inflicted by or at the instigation of or with the consent or acquiescence of a public official or other person acting in an official capacity.
I realize that we are not literally at war. My point is that war illustrates the true nature of rape. It’s a crime that is about disempowering a woman or punishing her for having the audacity to believe she has a right to personal autonomy.
This is about an attitude that has been nurtured by ignoramus conservatives who see women as incubators that should be controlled by the state. The racial epithets and death threats Zerlina Maxwell experienced after her appearance on Fox confirmed that rape is not about a woman’s behavior. It’s about those men who think it’s their right to have power over women.
Whether we’re wearing potato sacks or attractive clothing when we say no, it still means no. Whether a woman drinks wine or milk, when she says no she means no. Racial epithets and death threats will never change a no to a yes nor will the GOP’s war on women. And Real men don’t rape.
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Paws
Mar. 12th, 2013 at 9:27 am
Sometimes the truth hits really close to home, doesn’t it?
The posters on her Facebook page think it is okay and perfectly acceptable to make rape “jokes” and to threaten rape. They may have no intention of actually committing a rape, but that’s irrelevant. They do this because they think rape is just about sex; it is not about sex in the least.
How would they feel if someone threatened their daughters with rape because she stands up for herself or says something someone might disagree with? What about their wives? Would it be okay for others to make these threats to them?
It’s just incredibly sad they we still have a culture out there that thinks it is okay to make these jokes and threats and that it is something to be proud of. I’m sure these posters are all patting themselves on the back for what they’ve done.
They should be hanging THEIR heads in shame.
RX7
Mar. 12th, 2013 at 9:48 am
Any male with an iota of compassion should know that rape is all about hurting a woman, forcing her against her will. They should know that if they have the right mind, sex only feel satisfying when the woman is enjoying it. Rape is not an act of “sexual instinct”, but an act of violence, an act of a predator who preys on defenseless women for their own greed.
Mary James
Mar. 12th, 2013 at 10:11 am
Their gross hatred turns them into preditors justifying all their sick twisted thoughts actions. They follow the actions of a lot of the GEOPIGS who have spent the last year defending rapist The worst is the gross pig limbaug Who spews his ugly hatred every day.
Shiva(Moderator)
Mar. 12th, 2013 at 10:37 am
in the words of my favorite boxing analyst Jim Lampley, let’s say it now ladies and gentlemen*, male Fox viewers have penis problems which includes extremely low esteem.
It’s either that or the fake Christian fundie religious thought waves have reached further than we thought. I think we need to do a closer analysis of Fox news viewers to see if they wear beards and mutter under their breath a lot.
Special note to lamers: women are not toys
*Jim Lampley’s comment was: let’s say it now ladies and gentlemen, Buster Douglas is the heavyweight champion of the world
Mike "mikeyhatesit" Alexander
Mar. 12th, 2013 at 11:04 am
I agree that society needs to change its attitudes towards rape, but I think it’s missing something when we concentrate on female victims. Men get sexually assaulted as well, and to exclude them means the problem won’t get solvef unless all victims, no matter their age, race, gender, or orientation feel safe enough to report such a crime without worrying about not just being blamed, but humiliated, betrayed, or judged.
Additionally, to say rape is strictly a social problem, whether out of a desire for power, or a war crime, misses an important point. Biologically speaking, and in no way excusing the reprehensible nature of it, rape is a reproductive strategy. In a species such as ourselves, we turn it into a crime of opportunity. If someone thinks the victim won’t fight back, there’s a greater success factor. We’ve done the same thing with racism, by warping an altruistic territorial behavior into a generalized reaction to a specific “other”.
If we want to be the evolved specimens of humanity we claim to be, it will take a gestalt shift at the global level to get past these animalistic remnants that are found in those who refuse to be compassionate or empathetic to any human that is not “us”.
Sherlock
Mar. 12th, 2013 at 11:32 pm
Mr. Alexander
Wonder exactly how cerebral you would be if Bubba took a liking to you.
Blah blah blah.
Reynardine
Mar. 13th, 2013 at 12:45 pm
As someone who more or less knows this gentleman, I advise you that remark was uncalled for.
Syntara Sarych
Mar. 12th, 2013 at 7:52 pm
The reason the blame is placed on the woman is as old as the Bible where in Genesis, when God asked why Adam ate from the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil he said: “The woman made me do it.” Now obviously Adam was playing the blame game or he was so clinically codependent in his relationship with Eve he would do whatever she told him to do.
knight4444
Mar. 12th, 2013 at 9:34 pm
Well according to @patty our republican contributor here, the republican party is the ”friend of womens rights!!!” RIGHT!! Hey @patty what con game gimmick did the GOP use to get you to join?? lol
Sherlock
Mar. 12th, 2013 at 11:23 pm
Ah the Fox News followers strike again. Surprised? Given yet another opportunity to express their opinions what do the Terrorists say? Really ladies the Republicans are actually nice people– you just have to get to know them. Just bring your .45
djchefron(Moderator)
Mar. 13th, 2013 at 10:58 am
Its not off topic but OUR administration is on the ball when it comes to this culture of violence towards women.
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Reynardine
Mar. 13th, 2013 at 12:47 pm
Looks like Judith Iscariot got deleted.
jackie
Mar. 13th, 2013 at 4:50 pm
I am a fox view and a woman. I know that rape is about power not sex. I did not watch the segment you are posting about, but I did watch the clip. I just wish they would have shown the whole clip so we could see it all and decide for ourselves what was said and what wasn’t. But I do have one question for all of you who are defending this woman did you do the same for Sarah Palen when she was called every name in the book and vile comments were made about her and her family? I just want you to be fair and balanced.
Shiva(Moderator)
Mar. 13th, 2013 at 4:53 pm
Why? Fox isnt fair and balanced. Why do you put that requirement on others?
Palin made her own bed with her idiotic statements. Zerlina Maxwell is a very straight up person.
djchefron(Moderator)
Mar. 13th, 2013 at 4:58 pm
Did I defend the grifter?No because I didnt want to contribute to the….
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Wendy
Mar. 14th, 2013 at 3:14 am
I have been seeing a lot of comments lately, both here (obviously) and in yahoo story comments, that places the blame for rape on the victim, or state that women lie about rape to get revenge. And I am greatly saddened because I thought as a society we had moved beyond such ignorance. But we have not. I greatly applaud Ms. Maxwell’s courage for going on Fox at all, much less with what appears to be (to their viewers, at any rate) a controversial solution to the problem of sexual assault-place the blame squarely on the perpetrators. Nobody blames the well-dressed man for getting mugged because of how he was dressed. Nobody blames the burglarized home owner for having a beautiful, well-kept home on a quiet street all alone for being burglarized. But in rape, somehow it is the victim’s fault for being…what? a woman?
As someone who has been raped, and had to deal with the fall out when I reported it, I seriously thought that in the 24 years since my rape that our society had progressed. And I am so very disheartened to see that it hasn’t.
All I can do is teach my son that it is never okay to take from someone else that which was never offered nor freely given. And I unfortunately have to teach my daughters how to kick the living crap out of anyone under any circumstances. And to NEVER be quiet if they are assaulted. All they have to do is tell me.
And Jackie, what exactly could she possibly have said to justify threats of rape? I can’t think of anything, ever, that justifies that.