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Why do Fundamentalists Feel the Need to Prove Jesus Was Resurrected?
more from Hrafnkell Haraldsson
With the imaginary war on Christmas looming dark in their thoughts, Christmas is one of those times of year that conservative Christians get really insistent that Jesus was resurrected. David Limbaugh, at World Net Daily, writes that, ” At the very core of Christianity is the historical authenticity of the bodily resurrection of Jesus Christ. But for His resurrection, we would not be celebrating His birth.”
And Limbaugh is determined to reassure his fellow doubters that Jesus really was resurrected. I mean, really, really, for sure resurrected. You have to wonder each Christmas, what happened to belief?
Christians have always recognized that without Jesus there is no Christianity. But more than that, Christians need, as Paul early recognized, the incarnation, death and resurrection of Jesus.[1] But the present level of conservative Christian stridency smells to me of a lack of faith in what is, after all, a matter not of proof - because miracles stand outside of history - but of belief in what Kierkegaard called the absurd.
Jesus’ resurrection has had many defenders over the centuries. In the Pagan world of old, with Christianity fighting for legitimacy in the face of traditional religion, Justin Martyr ironically defended the resurrection by appealing to the example of Aesclepius![2] If Aesclepius can be resurrected by Zeus, why not Jesus by YHWH? Apparently, one absurdity can prove another.
Today, we find apologists still hard at work defending the resurrection. Limbaugh relates,
Christian apologist Josh McDowell spent more than 700 hours studying the subject of the resurrection and concluded that it “is one of the most wicked, vicious, heartless hoaxes ever foisted upon the minds of men, or it is the most amazing fact of history.” When a university student asked him why he was unable to refute Christianity, McDowell responded, “For a very simple reason: I am not able to explain away an event in history – the resurrection of Jesus Christ.”
Those who would answer that McDowell was not trying very hard would be right: he was not. McDowell’s motivations are, as for any apologist, theological, not historical. He is no more a disinterested observer than the authors of the gospels. Explaining away anything having to do with Jesus is the furthest thing from his mind.
This obsession with the resurrection was not always present. Jesus’ first followers were not obsessed with his death. As Helmut Koester demonstrates, we can see that Paul’s focus on Jesus’ death was not original to the Jewish Community.
One of the most striking features of the Gospel of Thomas is its silence in the matter of Jesus’ death and resurrection – the keystone of Paul’s missionary proclamation. But Thomas is not alone in this silence. The Synoptic Sayings Source (Q), used by Matthew and Luke, also does not consider Jesus’ death a part of the Christian message. And it likewise is not interested in stories and reports about resurrection and subsequent appearances of the risen Lord. The Gospel of Thomas and Q challenge the assumption that the early Church was unanimous in making Jesus’ death and resurrection the fulcrum of Christian faith. Both documents presuppose that Jesus’ significance lay in his words, and in his words alone.[3]
Paul of Tarsus on the other hand, was obsessed with Jesus’ death and resurrection, and the differences between Paul and Jesus are profound.
Bart Ehrman points to some of the central differences: Jesus called the one who would come to judge the “Son of Man” but Paul said it would be Jesus himself; Jesus taught his followers that to escape judgment that they must keep the Law; Paul said what was required was a belief in the death and resurrection of Jesus. Jesus’ definition of faith is trust in YHWH to bring his kingdom to his people but Paul defines it as faith in the death and resurrection of Jesus. Jesus saw himself as the one who proclaimed the coming kingdom and in “correct interpretation of the law” but for Paul it was Jesus’ death and resurrection. “The end of the age began in the lives of Jesus’ followers,” Ehrman says, “who accepted his teachings and began to implement them in their lives” but Paul differs again, saying that the end of the age “began with the defeat of the power of sin at the cross of Jesus.”[4]
New Testament scholar Gerd Lüdemann will tell you that dead people stay dead - that’s the consensus scientific view, whatever apologists tell us. But the resurrection has always been problematic beyond the probability of a dead person not staying dead. In the Synoptic Gospels we see that Jesus proves the necessity of resurrection by a reference to the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. But in John (11:25) Jesus is himself the resurrection and the life, an example of the degree to which the gospels are theology, not history.
But for believers, four conflicting accounts of Jesus’ resurrection are not problematic. We might argue that the “difference is in the details” but Christian apologists will counter with “the details are nothing. Have faith.” This is precisely what they told the Pagan Celsus: “Do not ask questions; Just believe.”[5] But the problems with this sort of thinking are insurmountable unless you have that faith that it is somehow possible for everything about Jesus in the Gospels is true, even when it is asserted by one author and denied by another. Details do matter.
We have to differentiate between facts and belief. Christians can believe Jesus was resurrected but it cannot be proven. And why are they so anxious to prove it? Because atheists are so quick to doubt it? Or because it’s so much easier to legislate it if it’s fact and not belief?
It’s a matter of belief, after all, as early Christians and their creeds recognized. The Nicene Creed of 325CE says,
We believe in one Lord, Jesus Christ,
the only Son of God,
eternally begotten of the Father,
God from God, Light from Light,
true God from true God,
begotten, not made,
of one Being with the Father.
Through him all things were made.
For us and for our salvation
he came down from heaven:
by the power of the Holy Spirit
he became incarnate from the Virgin Mary,
and was made man.
For our sake he was crucified under Pontius Pilate;
he suffered death and was buried.
On the third day he rose again
in accordance with the Scriptures;
he ascended into heaven
and is seated at the right hand of the Father.
Notice the word “believe.” It does not say “we can prove” or “it is a fact.” We believe…
But belief is not enough for those who are not certain of their belief. Some believers need evidence every bit as badly as non-believers, so we find Limbaugh stressing that “secular writings of Jewish historian Josephus, Roman historians Tacitus and Suetonius, Roman author Pliny the Younger and Greek satirist Lucian all refer to Christ.”
So what?
Limbaugh neglects to mention that none of these authors bought into the divinity of Jesus, let alone his resurrection. Belief or acceptance that Jesus existed does not equal belief in a resurrection. Limbaugh skips merrily over a vast gulf of skepticism and absence of evidence.
Limbaugh can crow that “Renowned Christian apologist Dr. Norman Geisler wrote, “The documentary evidence for the reliability of the New Testament is greater than that for any other book from the ancient world.” but as Bart Ehrman explains,
“The early Christian gospels…were never intended to be disinterested descriptions of historical data. They are, after all, called ‘Gospels,’ which means something like ‘the proclamation of good news.’ Whoever wrote these books meant to show that the life, death and resurrection of Jesus brought salvation – that is – they had a theological agenda. These books aren’t ‘objective’ descriptions of what Jesus said and did.”[6]
In this regard we should do well to remember, as Helmut Koester reminds us, that “both Luke and Justin Martyr confirm that authors were at liberty to change the text of the older writings as it was required by their arguments.”[7]
History? Not so much. Belief? You betcha. They even convince themselves that those who disagree with them – vehemently – agree with them. As Limbaugh claims:
In his book “The Resurrection: The Unopened Gift,” Gerard Chrispin wrote, “There is an amazing accord between nearly all the friends and foes of Christianity, about the historical facts surrounding the life and death of Christ. … The fact that He died and three days later the tomb was empty is what the lawyer calls common ground. … Interestingly, one rarely meets a genuine historian who doubts the empty tomb.”
I suspect Chrispin is not talking to any actual historians, though we have to acknowledge that for conservative Christians David Barton qualifies as not only a historian but an “eminent” historian. So go figure.
As a result of this bizarre reality bubble they have constructed for themselves, we get Limbuagh offering this as though it has any meaning at all: “Geisler said there is ‘more evidence Jesus died than that [sic] most important people of the ancient world ever lived.’”
This claim is so absurd that no refutation is required. But I suppose it’s what fundamentalists tell themselves to feel better about the problematic nature of the evidence.
But where does this supposed evidence come from? The New Testament. The same New Testament of which the following can be said:
If we are to judge by the historical record, and not by Christian belief, we can only agree with Michael Grant’s assessment, that before this, “the early Fathers of the Church show remarkably little reflection of Gospel material.”[8]
Yet now this Gospel material the early Christians either did not care about or were ignorant of, is supposed to be the ultimate proof of Jesus’ resurrection.
The biggest problem with the gospel “evidence” is that the earliest Gospel, Mark, did not have a resurrection story when it was written. Mark ends at 16:8 in its earliest witnesses (Codices Sinaiticus and Vaticanus). In support of this, Origen comments on resurrection stories in Matthew, Luke and John, but not in Mark. Origen wrote in the third century. His version, at least, did not have 16:9-20. Clement of Alexandria (c. 150-215CE) also fails to mention Mark 16:9-20. Eusebius, writing in the fourth century, did know of an extended version (ad Marinum) as did Augustine (writing in the early 400s in his Easter sermons.
In other words, the resurrection stories did not originate with the earliest account of Jesus’ life and teachings, and they were added to that account only to bring it into accord with the later gospels: Matthew, Luke, and John.
As Bart Ehrman writes, “Christianity is a religion rooted in a belief in the death of Jesus for sin and his resurrection from the dead. This, however, does not appear to have been the religion that Jesus preached to the Jews of Galilee and Judea. To use a formulation that scholars have tossed about for years, Christianity is not so much the religion of Jesus (the religion that he himself proclaimed) as the religion about Jesus (the religion that is based on his death and resurrection).[9]
In truth, rather than debating proof of Jesus’ resurrection, we should, like S.G.F. Brandon, be debating how a belief in his resurrection gained currency in so short a time: S.G.F. Brandon says of Paul’s Christianity,
His incarnation and crucifixion he sees as part of a divine plan to save mankind from enslavement to the daemonic powers who, he believed, controlled the world and the destinies of men. That so transcendental a conception of Jesus, integrated into an esoteric soteriology unparalleled in contemporary Jewish thought, should have developed within some two decades of his crucifixion by the Romans, constitutes one of the fundamental problems of the study of Christian Origins.[10]
Amen.
[1] Paul recounts the consequences of Christ not being resurrected at 1 Cor. 15:12-19. Obviously, if Jesus is not the Christ, things are just as serious.
[2] Justin Martyr, First Apology 21.
[3] Helmut Koester, Ancient Christian Gospels: Their History and Development (Philadelphia: Trinity Press International, 1990) 86.
[4] Bart D. Ehrman. The New Testament: A Historical Introduction to the Early Christian Writings (NY: Oxford University Press, 2004), 366. See also 1 Cor. 2.6-8.
[5] Origen, C. Cels.I, 9ff. See Celsus: On The True Doctrine, R.J. Hoffmann ed. (Oxford University Press, 1987), 53-54.
[6] Bart D. Ehrman, Peter, Paul, and Mary Magdalene: The Followers of Jesus in History and Legend (2006), 10.
[7] Helmut Koester, “Written Gospel or Oral Traditions?” JBL 113 (1994), 295.
[8] Michael Grant, Jesus, 189.
[9] Ehrman, The New Testament, 276.
[10] S.G.F. Brandon, Jesus and the Zealots (NY: Charles Scribner’s Sons, 1967), 12. cf. 1 Cor. 2.6-9.
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djchefron
Dec. 21st, 2012 at 12:41 pm
Just show me proof he existed.And no the bible doesnt count.
Shiva (Moderator)
Dec. 21st, 2012 at 12:46 pm
I have no problem believing a person with that name lived, but he certainly wasn’t the son of any god. That story was already written hundreds of years earlier in Egypt
Personally I think he was a revolutionary fighting to get out from Roman rule like everyone else was. We know Judas Iscariot was
Reynardine
Dec. 21st, 2012 at 12:46 pm
I would add that the belief that he exited the tomb alive does not suppose any divinity. If, as some have posited, he spent the years between twelve and thirty on the Subcontinent, people whom I knew personally have seen darwishes pierce themselves through with swords and survive without hemorrhaging, and every once in a while, you hear of yogis having themselves buried alive and being dug up days or weeks later to talk about it. I don’t credit that Jesus was the personal son of God; I could credit that he was a Yogi.
SinghX
Dec. 21st, 2012 at 5:14 pm
Yogi Jesus?? So, how would his history be re-written?
Yogi Jesus came to India as a young, rebellious Jewish boy who wanted to find his spiritual self. He studied with many yogis until he developed his own style; today we call his “style” Christianity. Today, many people practice the teachings of Yogi Jesus, but few know what the original intent or actual teachings of the Yogi; today, they just wing it in hopes of liberation.
Shiva (Moderator)
Dec. 21st, 2012 at 5:35 pm
I like it!
SinghX
Dec. 22nd, 2012 at 9:02 am
Well, as you know (many others may not) the yogis recorded all of their teachings on some kind of palm leaf “paper”–of course, it disintegrated, therefore everything had to be passed down word of mouth from yogi to chella. We’ll never know the truth in this matter until a time machine is invented…
Shiva (Moderator)
Dec. 21st, 2012 at 1:08 pm
The Hindus do much the same thing in the many incarnations of various gods.
You cant have a religion unless you have something to make people cling to(the old rugged cross). You cant have a religion unless you can promise something big in the afterlife.
Most religions do it. Even Buddhism says you will be join with the universal whole.
But, christianity basically gives or says nothing that other religions dont say in different ways.
And the GOP has to see people die to keep the afterlife promise alive
Jim Faubel
Dec. 21st, 2012 at 1:19 pm
The earliest Gospels (the ones that did not make it into the New Testament) do not mention Jesus’ resurrection and do not even preach that Jesus’ crucifixion achieved “salvation” for anyone [these would seen curious omissions for modern Christians]. It would appear that these ideas didn’t become important to believers until the later half of the Second Century. There is lots of speculation by scholars as to why this is so, but very few laymen know anything about this, not surprisingly.
robyn ryan
Dec. 21st, 2012 at 2:44 pm
I like to think of it as the ‘Tea partying of Jesus.’
Most of the writings of the New Testament were written decades and centuries after the events described. Why should they be less biased or more reality based than David Barton writing about Jefferson?
King James was not a family values type of guy, so the translation was done by the equivalent of Rupert Murdoch.
And the whole ‘trinity’ thing is bizarre. Either you’re the one and only, or you’ve reproduced. So you’re not the only one.
Of course,you never were. Long before Jesus, the 1st Hebrew commandment states “you shall have no other gods before me.”
That tells me there ARE other gods, and they are powerful enough for this god to be jealous of them.
It doesn’t mention if you can have other gods AFTER him.
Merry Solstice!!!!!
Johnee
Dec. 21st, 2012 at 1:51 pm
It’s extremely problematic when any intellectual says, rather than accepting it on faith, that they can through logic, reason and critical thought, prove a miraculous religious belief is real even though it is forever lost to antiquity.
C.S. Lewis immediately springs to mind as one of these intellectual apologists. His book ‘Mere Christianity’ is lauded by believers as “proof” that Jesus was the son of God and was resurrection from the dead. However, any rational or critical reading of Lewis’ book from someone that is not an apologist, reveals so many holes in his (Lewis) reasoning that one could drive a truck through them. The one that always floored me is (and I am para phrasing): “Logically, Jesus was either a madman or the son of God, these are the only two choices, and if it can be shown that he wasn’t a madman, then there is only one choice left”
This kind of lazy thinking from Christian intellectuals and apologists just floors me! Hello, Mr. Lewis the obvious third option is that upon the death of their very charismatic leader, Jesus followers told tales for many years around the hearth or campfire and they snow balled with later generations and grew into the accounts (gospels) that we have today, many of which are decades or even over a century old. Any cultural anthropologist can tell you about the natural myth making and story telling capacity of human beings…especially certain ancient cultures from that part of the world.
Hell, look at all our “tall tales” John Henry was areal figure, but did he really pound through a mountain with two sledgehammers? Billy the Kid had so many wild stories about him that most people believed them.
Johnee
Dec. 21st, 2012 at 2:01 pm
“decades or even over a century old” after Jesus’ death. Duh.
TStMauro
Dec. 21st, 2012 at 4:11 pm
I read a book (don’t recall the title) that postulated that Paul (Saul),when he converted, and was determined to preach the Jesus thing, never spoke to one of the surviving apostles. The author felt that surely they were still around and wouldn’t it be a wise thing to do to speak to at least one of them? I found that rather interesting.
Johnee
Dec. 21st, 2012 at 4:50 pm
There is actually good evidence he was in communication with the Jerusalem church. There is also strong evidence that he knew Peter. However they strongly disapproved of what Paul was doing (bringing Christianity to the gentiles, not requiring circumcision, etc.). There was so much of a schism that Paul basically went his own way and did his own thing. So the lack of communication you refer to may have been more of them avoiding each other, and of course we are left more with Paul’s version of Christianity rather than the other Apostles.
Jim Wetherell
Dec. 21st, 2012 at 4:20 pm
The reason most fundamentalists are trying to prove the resurrection really happened is that they doubt it themselves.
Christopher
Dec. 21st, 2012 at 5:54 pm
This crowd needs to prove their religion to be true to justify their attempts to impose it on the rest of us, ironically conceding that evidence is stronger than belief for many of us even as they discount evidence for such things as evolution. Those of us not bent on imposing our religion on others are content to accept that such is the mythology of our faith while focusing on the teachings of Jesus rather than the nature of Jesus, which we see as vastly more important and relevant.
James Snapp, Jr.
Dec. 21st, 2012 at 11:06 pm
Hrafnkell,
Regarding “The biggest problem” that you mentioned: your sources have misled you. In Codices Vaticanus and Sinaiticus, Mark’s text ends at 16:8, but both of those manuscripts are from the 300′s. They are not our earliest witnesses to the text of the Gospel of Mark. Considerably earlier is the evidence from Epistula Apostolorum (150), Justin Martyr (160), Tatian (172), and Irenaeus (184); all of them attest in one way or another to copies of Mark that contained 16:9-20; Tatian incorporated material from these 12 verses into his “Diatessaron,” and Irenaeus specifically quoted Mark 16:19 (In Book 3 of “Against Heresies,” ch. 10).
Origen’s non-use of Mark 16:9-20 is not indicative of the contents of his copies of Mark; he similarly failed to use most 12-verse portions of Mark. As for Clement of Alexandria, he hardly ever used Mark’s Gospel except for chapter 10. It is a poor method to treat (and present to your readers) absence of evidence as if it is evidence of absence, especially when the non-use of Mark 16:9-20 by Origen and Clement is accounted for when one observes their non-use of so much of the Gospel of Mark in general.
I realize that it may be difficult to get reliable information about this sort of thing. Perhaps the authors of some of your reference-books were hesitant to investigate a book called “Against Heresies” written by a Christian bishop. Anyway, in the future please try to choose your sources of data more carefully.
Yours in Christ,
James Snapp, Jr.
SinghX
Dec. 22nd, 2012 at 9:44 am
Here’s a quote from an Op-Ed at the Christian Post by a radical Lutheran minster from a little town in Nebraska (he’s broken his church away from all synod affiliation, yet, he’s seen as revered amongst evangelical propagandist). His name is Dab Dezell.
Again, the justification using both The Satan and The Resurrection in the same breath is stunning.
…”Satan may feel that he is glorified by such carnage….but nothing could be further from the truth. Satan lost to Jesus when Christ died and rose again for our salvation. All the glory goes to Jesus. He is the Creator….along with the Father and the Holy Spirit. Satan is a created being….he is not the eternal God. He deserves no glory….no matter how far he stoops to tempt people to do evil things which in turn make them infamous”…
www.christianpost.com/new...
SinghX
Dec. 22nd, 2012 at 9:45 am
Correction: “Dan” not Dab
Howard Brazee
Dec. 22nd, 2012 at 10:21 am
For many centuries, churches weren’t about faith – the Bible was taught as history. Miracles were accepted as real (and current). But then science and history changed, and evidence became important to make claims. The church adjusted, claiming that it was about faith, not evidence. God wasn’t going to actually *show* us anything, we were saved or damned on whether we have unsupported faith in what the church believed.