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Newt Gingrich Amps Up The Crazy With A Plan To Arrest Liberal Judges
Newt Gingrich unveiled his strategy to combat his slide in the polls today on Face The Nation. He is going to appeal to the tea party by turning the crazy up to 11.
Here is the video from Face The Nation:
Schieffer: Let me just tell you what several people have said about this. When the Des Moines Register announced that it was supporting Mitt Romney, it said one of the reasons is because he does not pander to extremes with attacks on the courts. And a number of conservatives, including two of George Bush’s attorneys general, Alberto Gonzales and Michael Mulcasey both said and I’m going to just quote what Mr. Mulcasey said and he told this to Fox News, he wasn’t telling it to Mother Jones. He told Fox News, he said “Mr. Gingrich’s proposal is dangerous, ridiculous, totally irresponsible, outrageous, off the wall, and would reduce the entire judicial system to a spectacle.” Now that’s a conservative judge or a conservative attorney general. How do you respond to that?
Gingrich: I think many lawyers will find this a very frightening idea. They’ve had this run of 50 years of pretending judges are supreme, that they can’t be challenged. The lawyer class defines America. We’ve had rulings that outlawed school prayer, we’ve had ruling that outlawed the cross, we’ve had rulings the outlawed the 10 Commandments, we’ve had a steady secular drive to radicalize this country away from all of its core beliefs. I mean what got me into this was the 9th Circuit saying that one nation under God is unconstitutional. We live in a country where Judge Biery can literally say I will put you in jail for saying the word benediction. There’s something profoundly wrong with the judicial system that has moved to that kind of extreme behavior.
Schieffer: But I would also add that what happened in that case is that an appeals court overturned that judge.
Gingrich: Right.
Schieffer: And the system worked.
Gingrich: No the local school board ended up paying large legal fees. Let me give you an example of how much this elitism permeates the system. The House Franken Commission says members of the House cannot say Merry Christmas in their official correspondence. This is absurd. But it’s part of the same elite anti-religious belief structure which leads the courts to define that you’re supposed to take down the Mount Soledad cross in San Diego even though it’s a historic cross. And I’m just suggesting to you…I got into this originally because of two things — The steady encroachment of secularism through the courts to redefine America as a non-religious country and the encroachment of the courts on the president’s commander in chief powers, which is enormously dangerous.
Schieffer: Let me just ask you this. You talk about enforcing it because one of things you say is if you don’t like what a court has done, the congress should subpoena the judge and bring him before congress and hold a congressional hearing. Some people say that’s unconstitutional but I’ll let that go for a minute. I just want to ask you from a practical standpoint, how would you enforce that? Would you send the Capitol police down to arrest him?
Gingrich: If you had to or you’d instruct the Justice Department to send a U.S. Marshall. Let’s take the case of Judge Biery. I think he should be asked to explain a position that radical. How could he say he’s going to jail the superintendent over the word benediction and invocation? Because before…because then I would encourage impeachment. But before you move to impeachment, you’d like to know why he said it. Now clearly since the congress has the power…
Schieffer: What if he didn’t come? What if he said, no thank you, I’m not coming?
Gingrich: Well that is what happens in impeachment cases. In an impeachment case, the House studies whether or not, the House brings them in, the House subpoenas them. And as a general rule they show up. I mean, but you’re raising the core question, are judges above the rest of the constitution? Or are judges one of the three co-equal branches?
What makes Newt Gingrich dangerous is that he knows the voters that he is courting. These are the same people that nominated candidates like Sharron Angle and Christine O’Donnell. He knows they aren’t politically knowledgeable. He doesn’t need facts. All it takes is fanatical belief in an extremist ideology to win their love. He went straight for the hearts of religious right voters with talk of secularism, crosses, and Merry Christmas.
The folks Newt was wooing see nothing wrong with sending a US Marshall to grab a federal judge who delivers a ruling that they disagree with. Gingrich might be really dangerous to the country if he believed the things coming out of his mouth, but he doesn’t. He recognizes that the people who hate Mitt Romney are looking for a candidate who appeals to their beliefs, so Newt is breaking out all the dog whistles.
Beneath the historical references is a line of bull shit that makes every tea partier/social conservative swoon. (These folks also love the historical references too, because they lend the appearance of intelligence and credibility to their crazy ideas).
Unlike Bachmann or Perry, for Newt Gingrich these appeals to the right are nothing more than a strategy. He is attacking Mitt Romney at his weakness. He is openly courting those voters who don’t trust Mitt. Gingrich is the biggest threat to Romney because this is all part of the game for him. Gingrich understands the far right in a way that Mitt Romney can’t.
Instead of running ads or doing any to the traditional things that a campaign does when they start to slip in the polls, Newt Gingrich has launched a courtship designed to win the hearts of GOP primary voters, and there is nothing Republican primary voters love more than illegal detentions.
The Gingrich campaign’s biggest strength is its ability to throw red meat out to the base. His insane rant about the “problems” in the judicial system today was the equivalent of a dozen red roses and a box of chocolates for social conservatives.
It doesn’t matter how crazy he has to get. Child janitors, arresting judges, nothing is off limits to Newt Gingrich’s quest to be the Republican nominee. Gingrich has it all figured out.
Anytime he starts to slide in the polls he turns the crazy up another notch, but the most insane thing of all is that his strategy just might work.
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Reynardine
Dec. 18th, 2011 at 2:40 pm
“Just might work” is the scary part. Hijacking the 2000 election worked for W, and he got re-elected in 2004. It turns out he felt he was “destined” to make war on Iraq because “Gahd” wanted him to make war on Gog and Magog. We can’t survive any more of this fecal matter.
Linda1961
Dec. 18th, 2011 at 4:03 pm
It might work to get Newt the nomination, but that strategy will sink him in the general election. Sure, he will try to walk back the crazy once the nomination is sewed up, but the videos will tell a different tale. Newt is selling his soul (if he has one) for the gop nomination, but he won’t be able to buy the presidency; most Americans despise him, and seeing these videos won’t make us trust him or like him.
Freud Dude
Dec. 18th, 2011 at 11:54 pm
Hitler never had a majority of the vote when he took over in post-WWI Germany. The most the National Socialists had was 43%. All it takes is a coalition. If Tea Partiers throw their weight behind ABBO (Any Body But Obama), you will see President Newt Gingrich in the White House. Frightening.
Shiva (Moderator)
Dec. 18th, 2011 at 11:57 pm
You may be, and I could be wrong, but maybe exaggerating the number of tea thugs out there. There just arnt that many any more
Freud Dude
Dec. 19th, 2011 at 12:04 am
So, how many votes do you think it would take, Shiva? Bush didn’t win the popular vote in 2000, yet still won the election. “Tea partiers” encompasses the full spectrum from those who are rabid, mouth-foaming supporters to those who are sympathetic to the cause. The election will come down to those who are most committed to their cause and Democrats are too complacent right now.
Shiva (Moderator)
Dec. 19th, 2011 at 12:19 am
I odnt know, but I know there were no tea baggers until Obama was elected. The popular vote for Bush/gore was very close. Obama won by a very good margin for these times
Dewdrop034
Dec. 18th, 2011 at 2:51 pm
Crazy ol’ Gingrich, still up to his old tricks. This is the same guy from 15 years ago who wanted to put orphans to work for profit, who wanted to put the homeless in Golden Gate park to death and had “sexual relations” with a young aid, in the back of his sedan, in front of his childrens school. He’s the perfect fit for the insane conservative right because the shoe fits very well.
john R
Dec. 18th, 2011 at 3:13 pm
my God.. hes trying to “out Jesus” perry..amazing the folks that have a “Christine O’Donnell” take on the first amendment.. after the GWB administration, the primaries look like a traveling salvation show
SinghX
Dec. 18th, 2011 at 3:22 pm
I could not watch the interview (so I scrolled down and listened), nor could I listen to the newt pontificate his self-serving, bizarre diatribe. Way too much over the top of any thing resembling an electable citizen for this country. I wish I could attack all the false, libelous, unconstitutional blather vomiting out of his pie hole, but, alas, I’m much too busy to allow him to suck anymore energy on any level. As a matter of fact, like Sister Sara, I won’t jump in to comment on him any longer; he’s not worth it. If we all stop giving him the negative “attention” he so desperately needs for approval, he will have to go back to work grifting like Sister Sara…he’s not headed for the white house, just like she was never going to get there; both are just props, tools, “trolls” that are paid to annoy people.
g
Dec. 18th, 2011 at 3:52 pm
I don’t think Gingrich is going to be the nominee and I think he’s amping up the crazy to assure only to heighten the attention he’s getting. I don’t think he wants to govern. He knows darn well what he’d be in for the minute he got into the White House – the same shit he gave Clinton and that he’s encouraging Congress to give Obama.
No, he’s trying burnish his “brand” in order to increase his speakers fees. It’s money and ego he wants – the minute he’d have to actually work at a job like President it would all be over.
g
Dec. 18th, 2011 at 3:59 pm
oh, and this –
“Let’s take the case of Judge Biery. I think he should be asked to explain a position that radical.”
He did explain it, Newt. He wrote the opinion. You should be able to find what you need there, that’s what it’s for.
Shiva (Moderator)
Dec. 18th, 2011 at 5:18 pm
I think Newt is making a case that Bush should have been arrested.
I think its horribly wrong that people cant say merry xmas and all that to celebrate their religion as long as they celebrate or allow all other religions celebrations. But we know Newt wont let that happen now that he suddenly seen the light on the road to damacus….er..the polls
Newt should appeal to the constitutional tea thugs, they don’t follow the constitution either
Protoguy
Dec. 18th, 2011 at 5:22 pm
“…we’ve had ruling that outlawed the cross, we’ve had rulings the outlawed the 10 Commandments…”
That’s some nice spin, but not exactly what happened. The 10 Commandments weren’t outlawed. Displaying them in a government facility was. It’s not against the law to follow, display or believe in the 10 Commandments, but that’s exactly his implication.
This is why the concept that religion is under attack is a lie, because every example brought forth is just a deceitful play on words. This is why people call you a liar, Newt.
Deborah Montesano
Dec. 18th, 2011 at 6:38 pm
Should Newt manage to swing the nomination, I’ll think about him at that point. Until then, he’s just a crazy bastard selling books.
Kristofer Carlson
Dec. 18th, 2011 at 6:54 pm
I dislike Newt Gingrich, but Newt didn’t say what you tried to make him say. He actually had a valid point. We live in a system of government defined by a balance of powers. Congress has the authority to limit the jurisdiction of the judiciary through a process called ‘jurisdictional stripping’, derived from Articles 1 and 3 of the constitution. Congress also has the power to impeach a judge, which is the power Newt was referring to.
pop-can-thick
Dec. 18th, 2011 at 10:22 pm
I don’t want to, but I have to agree. After reading the headline I was expecting radical crazy. It wasn’t and he does have a valid point. Dislike you Newt, but you said something I agree with.
sherriww
Dec. 19th, 2011 at 2:42 am
I also not only “dislike”Newt Gingrich,I know he is a VERY DANGEROUS PERSON,ESPECIALLY IF HE IS GIVEN ANY POWER WHATSOEVER,LITLLE LONE BEING PRESIDENT!THat is FACT,NOT FICTION,for sure! HOWEVER,in his Crazy ranting,he has actually come up with something viable-FOR-ANOTHER PRESIDENT,NOT HIM! One has ONLY to look at our SUPREME COURT today,to KNOW that we NEED a way to IMPEACH some of them,no doubt.There is a couple on there that are “BOUGHT AND PAID FOR”,dishonest,and A DISGRACE TO THIS NATION. There are PLENTY of other judges all across the country,who fit that pattern as well.These courts are TAKING AWAY OUR RIGHTS,NOT UPHOLDING THEM-all the while that some of them are “cozy”with,and MAKING MONEY,one way or the other,from the very people whose cases are coming before them! There SHOULD BE TERM LIMITS ON ALL JUDGES,NO EXCEPTION.UNTIL THEN YOU WILL NOT HAVE COURTS YOU CAN COUNT ON,TO MAKE RULINGS BASED ONLY ON FACTS AND LAW! Newt Gingrich would lead this country to complete disaster,as would just about ANYONE RUNNING ON THE REPUB TICKET RIGHT NOW,BUT,ON THIS ONE ISSUE,IN HIS CRAZINESS,NEWT JUST HAPPENED TO HIT ON SOMETHING THAT HE IS RIGHT ABOUT,AND I DON’T REMEMBER THAT *ever*BEING THE CASE BEFORE,WITH Newt-He is an ACCIDENT WAITNG TO HAPPEN,as are Romney and the others when it comes right down to it.
sw
Dec. 19th, 2011 at 10:36 am
I agree Newt made a lot of sense in terms of the balance of powers. Not what I expected to hear based on the poop going around on this.
Reynardine
Dec. 19th, 2011 at 11:21 am
impeachment is a power for punishing “high crimes and misdemeanours”, which includes rendering decisions procured by favor or corruption. It was never intended to be used to compel any judge or justice to conform to an ideology, though I have twice or thrice seen that happen. Jurisdiction can, to a degree, be stripped. No one has done it because they are afraid they might need recourse to this power themselves. Absent evidence in support of an impeachable offense, hauling a judge or a justice before the House of Representatives every time s/he renders a decision the body doesn’t like is an impermissible interference with the separation of powers. The Senate has no powers in this direction at all until the House votes out an indictment.
newmeximan
Dec. 18th, 2011 at 7:10 pm
The pledge of allegiance states “One nation, under God” but does not state which God or who’s God. The paint chip eaters assume it is their God, since their ignorance of any other spiritual experience other than their own abounds.
While the conservatives decry the move toward a secular nation our primary education system certainly has not. If we did indeed stress a humanist education, a classical education, there would be tolerance for spiritual experiences other than the Christian variety.
I left a Baptist congregation because they taught rote memorization of the Bible and did not discuss the possible meaning of scripture – unless it met their particular narrow purpose. If the Bible is a guide for living. then all possible interpretations should be discussed.
A classical, humanist education stresses the part that an individual plays in their community – not that any act will be forgiven by an omnipotent being who is not a member of the community. After all, forgiveness begins at home.
Reynardine
Dec. 19th, 2011 at 11:26 am
The pledge of allegience only came to include the words “under God” some fifty-seven years ago, and that is exactly the kind of trouble it has created.
gloria pfeifer
Dec. 18th, 2011 at 7:34 pm
It’s not only that he deliberately misconstrues all these things and then sends them out as gospel…but it’s the part where the sheep of the GOP believe him implicitly…these are the sheep that scare the pants off me…he’s only one man but the thousands that are behind him that will take down this country.
Tom
Dec. 18th, 2011 at 8:15 pm
Imagine the message Newt is sending to anyone taking office and pledging to uphold the constitution – that it’s all up to “HIS” interpretation, not the courts. Ron Paul is looking better and better every day.
Shiva (Moderator)
Dec. 18th, 2011 at 8:40 pm
Thanks to Newt, NO one in the GOP is looking better every day
bob
Dec. 18th, 2011 at 8:27 pm
If Newt doesn’t know the difference between outlawing the ten commandments and ruling inappropriate a display of a religious doctrine in a government facility, he is unfit to be president.
Furious Ennui
Dec. 19th, 2011 at 1:10 pm
Why don’t Americans vote for leadership, not sound bites? It’s not hard to do. Leadership just requires passion, care, commitment and an ability to set aside the hysterical pleas of the clueless and make the, sometimes hard and unpopular, decisions that bring about true greatness. Is America defined more by the First Amendment, or the 19th? Is Emancipation of the slaves and are the social rights advances of the 60s/70s more defining in terms of what it is to be American than the Iraqi Wars? Who is the better leader, Newt or Lincoln? Either Bush or Jefferson? Reagan or Martin Luther king? Why don’t Americans, and people of all nations, invest in greatness, leadership and the future at the polls, not just the four year meal junket?
Churchlady
Dec. 20th, 2011 at 1:07 am
That is about as unclear an argument as I’ve read in some time. First v 19th amendment? That is absurd since those are not opposing issues (and I bet you don’t know what they are). I think everyone has a right to post their view, but I’m finding it impossible to find one here.
Churchlady
Dec. 20th, 2011 at 1:02 am
The appeals court may have overturned the Texas judge, but at NO point did the judge threaten arrest of any school official. Pants-on-fire Gingrich lies. This was a civil issue, and it is one well worth exploring since just because they’ve always done it does not mean they get to do it. We always segretated, too. The process works – yes, it can cost money, but the process WORKS because it was set up to help people arbitrate their differences. The idea that a judge gets called out for a ruling such as this and forced to explain it and be dragooned means it is being judged a priori by politicians. Now if there is a secular majority will they get to call out the judges who overturned the ruling on appeal? The legal process is the BEST protection we and other Common Law nations have against rebellion and insurrection. We are not totally dependent upon political figures. The differences are clear – France and others with Roman Code legal systems have upheavals regularly. Common Law nations do not because the appeals system gives fair hearing and due process. Newt is not an attorney and has scant interest in a nation of laws. It’s only a nation of Newt’s opinion that interests him – and his appalling lack of historical understanding makes clear that he’s anything BUT a novel or clear or even remotely intelligent “thinker”. He’s drifting into Glenn Beck territory which is very scary since Newt is the ONLY candidate Beck could NOT vote for. Now you want to be afraid – that ought to give you serious pause.