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	<title>Comments on: How Does a Handcuffed 17 Year Old Strangle Himself in the Back of a Police Car?</title>
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		<title>By: Alice J</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alice J</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Aug 2012 13:03:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Total BS! I&#039;m so sick of these cops who are supposed to be doing &quot;right&quot;, giving the good ones a bad name. A badge gives you no right to kill teenagers for petty crimes. It&#039;s just like that other recent story about the handcuffed kid who shot himself. Yeah right. These cops are nothing more than cold blooded killers &amp; bullies with badges.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Total BS! I&#8217;m so sick of these cops who are supposed to be doing &#8220;right&#8221;, giving the good ones a bad name. A badge gives you no right to kill teenagers for petty crimes. It&#8217;s just like that other recent story about the handcuffed kid who shot himself. Yeah right. These cops are nothing more than cold blooded killers &amp; bullies with badges.</p><div class="commentRating" style="padding: 8px 10px 0 10px; float: right;">What do you think? <img width=20 height=20 style="padding: 0px; border: none; cursor: pointer;" id="up-207040" src="http://ww2.politicususa.com/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/images/1_20_up.png" alt="Thumb up" onclick="javascript:ckratingKarma('207040', 'add', 'www.politicususa.com/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/', '1_20_'); ckRatingCkMarkUp('207040');" title="My thoughts exactly." /> <span id="karma-207040-up" style="font-size:13px; font-weight: 700; color:#009933;;">0</span>&nbsp;<img width=20 height=20 style="padding: 0px; border: none; cursor: pointer;" id="down-207040" src="http://ww2.politicususa.com/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/images/1_20_down.png" alt="Thumb down" onclick="javascript:ckratingKarma('207040', 'subtract', 'www.politicususa.com/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/', '1_20_'); ckRatingCkMarkDown('207040');" title="You got to be kidding." /> <span id="karma-207040-down" style="font-size:13px; font-weight: 700; color:#990033;">0</span></div>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Beth Conmee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Beth Conmee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Aug 2012 03:09:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[My question, if the kid was suicidal, why didn&#039;t he jump off the roof while he was up there????]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My question, if the kid was suicidal, why didn&#8217;t he jump off the roof while he was up there????</p><div class="commentRating" style="padding: 8px 10px 0 10px; float: right;">What do you think? <img width=20 height=20 style="padding: 0px; border: none; cursor: pointer;" id="up-206303" src="http://ww2.politicususa.com/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/images/1_20_up.png" alt="Thumb up" onclick="javascript:ckratingKarma('206303', 'add', 'www.politicususa.com/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/', '1_20_'); ckRatingCkMarkUp('206303');" title="My thoughts exactly." /> <span id="karma-206303-up" style="font-size:13px; font-weight: 700; color:#009933;;">0</span>&nbsp;<img width=20 height=20 style="padding: 0px; border: none; cursor: pointer;" id="down-206303" src="http://ww2.politicususa.com/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/images/1_20_down.png" alt="Thumb down" onclick="javascript:ckratingKarma('206303', 'subtract', 'www.politicususa.com/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/', '1_20_'); ckRatingCkMarkDown('206303');" title="You got to be kidding." /> <span id="karma-206303-down" style="font-size:13px; font-weight: 700; color:#990033;">0</span></div>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Reynardine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Reynardine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Aug 2012 02:17:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t doubt you, but that means they&#039;re giving you flawed units to work in- in this case, a design flaw. Something not ublicly bruited about was that a defective unit was one of the factors in the Glover-Reddy shooting in Manhattan in &#039;75; when Reddy tried to exit the unit as the shooter approached, the door locked on him and he was trapped. Bad design and bad maintainance can kill not only suspects, but officers, though carelessness kills still more of both. Either seat belts are going to have to be designed so as not to do that, or the cuffs themselves may have to be fastened to some type of belt so the suspect can&#039;t try to change the position of his cuffed hands. I never worked as police, though my co-author did, but I worked nut.

All the same, there may be incidents that are deliberate. Sometimes, if the officer is a veteran, he may have been trained in brutal tactics and/or developed PTSD. And cops working rough districts with too few resources, too little backup, or poor morale in the house, can burn out. Every case needs to be looked at on its own merit, because just because three people in a row fell off their balconies in a row because they were drunk doesn&#039;t mean the fourth one wasn&#039;t pushed]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t doubt you, but that means they&#8217;re giving you flawed units to work in- in this case, a design flaw. Something not ublicly bruited about was that a defective unit was one of the factors in the Glover-Reddy shooting in Manhattan in &#8217;75; when Reddy tried to exit the unit as the shooter approached, the door locked on him and he was trapped. Bad design and bad maintainance can kill not only suspects, but officers, though carelessness kills still more of both. Either seat belts are going to have to be designed so as not to do that, or the cuffs themselves may have to be fastened to some type of belt so the suspect can&#8217;t try to change the position of his cuffed hands. I never worked as police, though my co-author did, but I worked nut.</p>
<p>All the same, there may be incidents that are deliberate. Sometimes, if the officer is a veteran, he may have been trained in brutal tactics and/or developed PTSD. And cops working rough districts with too few resources, too little backup, or poor morale in the house, can burn out. Every case needs to be looked at on its own merit, because just because three people in a row fell off their balconies in a row because they were drunk doesn&#8217;t mean the fourth one wasn&#8217;t pushed</p><div class="commentRating" style="padding: 8px 10px 0 10px; float: right;">What do you think? <img width=20 height=20 style="padding: 0px; border: none; cursor: pointer;" id="up-206277" src="http://ww2.politicususa.com/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/images/1_20_up.png" alt="Thumb up" onclick="javascript:ckratingKarma('206277', 'add', 'www.politicususa.com/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/', '1_20_'); ckRatingCkMarkUp('206277');" title="My thoughts exactly." /> <span id="karma-206277-up" style="font-size:13px; font-weight: 700; color:#009933;;">0</span>&nbsp;<img width=20 height=20 style="padding: 0px; border: none; cursor: pointer;" id="down-206277" src="http://ww2.politicususa.com/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/images/1_20_down.png" alt="Thumb down" onclick="javascript:ckratingKarma('206277', 'subtract', 'www.politicususa.com/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/', '1_20_'); ckRatingCkMarkDown('206277');" title="You got to be kidding." /> <span id="karma-206277-down" style="font-size:13px; font-weight: 700; color:#990033;">0</span></div>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Reynardine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Reynardine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Aug 2012 01:59:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Excuse me?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excuse me?</p><div class="commentRating" style="padding: 8px 10px 0 10px; float: right;">What do you think? <img width=20 height=20 style="padding: 0px; border: none; cursor: pointer;" id="up-206271" src="http://ww2.politicususa.com/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/images/1_20_up.png" alt="Thumb up" onclick="javascript:ckratingKarma('206271', 'add', 'www.politicususa.com/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/', '1_20_'); ckRatingCkMarkUp('206271');" title="My thoughts exactly." /> <span id="karma-206271-up" style="font-size:13px; font-weight: 700; color:#009933;;">0</span>&nbsp;<img width=20 height=20 style="padding: 0px; border: none; cursor: pointer;" id="down-206271" src="http://ww2.politicususa.com/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/images/1_20_down.png" alt="Thumb down" onclick="javascript:ckratingKarma('206271', 'subtract', 'www.politicususa.com/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/', '1_20_'); ckRatingCkMarkDown('206271');" title="You got to be kidding." /> <span id="karma-206271-down" style="font-size:13px; font-weight: 700; color:#990033;">0</span></div>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: A Walkaway</title>
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		<dc:creator>A Walkaway</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Aug 2012 01:47:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[While I don&#039;t trust the pigs one tiny bit (for good reason), at the same time, I don&#039;t discount their claim THIS time.

Have you ever sat in the back seat of a vehicle?  The damned seatbelts ALWAYS go into the &quot;Get tighter&quot; mode... and you cannot loosen them without taking the seatbelt off, completely retracting it, and then putting it back on.  I don&#039;t know why they do that, but I don&#039;t think I&#039;ve sat in the back seat of a car or truck YET where you didn&#039;t have the thing always getting tighter (and never loosening).

When I was riding for any length of period in the back seat, I&#039;d pull the seatbelt out as far as it would go and then tie something on it to keep it extended... so it wouldn&#039;t choke me (and they&#039;ve come close a couple of times).

I&#039;d rather go without than be choked.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While I don&#8217;t trust the pigs one tiny bit (for good reason), at the same time, I don&#8217;t discount their claim THIS time.</p>
<p>Have you ever sat in the back seat of a vehicle?  The damned seatbelts ALWAYS go into the &#8220;Get tighter&#8221; mode&#8230; and you cannot loosen them without taking the seatbelt off, completely retracting it, and then putting it back on.  I don&#8217;t know why they do that, but I don&#8217;t think I&#8217;ve sat in the back seat of a car or truck YET where you didn&#8217;t have the thing always getting tighter (and never loosening).</p>
<p>When I was riding for any length of period in the back seat, I&#8217;d pull the seatbelt out as far as it would go and then tie something on it to keep it extended&#8230; so it wouldn&#8217;t choke me (and they&#8217;ve come close a couple of times).</p>
<p>I&#8217;d rather go without than be choked.</p><div class="commentRating" style="padding: 8px 10px 0 10px; float: right;">What do you think? <img width=20 height=20 style="padding: 0px; border: none; cursor: pointer;" id="up-206266" src="http://ww2.politicususa.com/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/images/1_20_up.png" alt="Thumb up" onclick="javascript:ckratingKarma('206266', 'add', 'www.politicususa.com/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/', '1_20_'); ckRatingCkMarkUp('206266');" title="My thoughts exactly." /> <span id="karma-206266-up" style="font-size:13px; font-weight: 700; color:#009933;;">0</span>&nbsp;<img width=20 height=20 style="padding: 0px; border: none; cursor: pointer;" id="down-206266" src="http://ww2.politicususa.com/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/images/1_20_down.png" alt="Thumb down" onclick="javascript:ckratingKarma('206266', 'subtract', 'www.politicususa.com/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/', '1_20_'); ckRatingCkMarkDown('206266');" title="You got to be kidding." /> <span id="karma-206266-down" style="font-size:13px; font-weight: 700; color:#990033;">0</span></div>]]></content:encoded>
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