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Howard Dean: Tea Party Stoners Are Too High To Govern
On Face The Nation, Howard Dean painted the tea party as stoner extremists who ought to try drinking their tea instead of smoking it.
Here’s the video from CBS News:
Dean was asked about David Axelrod blaming the tea party for the S&P downgrade. He answered, “Well, here’s the deal here. I happen to agree with David, I think this is a tea party problem, I think they are totally unreasonable, and doctrinaire and not founded in reality, I think they’ve been smoking some of that tea and not just drinking it, but the fact of the matter is, the President is going to get the blame and the credit for what goes right whether he deserves or not. That’s what Presidents do. So, sure if he going to get some of the blame for this, yes, this is a serious thing, if you look at the Standard and Poor’s report, three times they mentioned that our unwillingness to raise revenues was going to make it impossible for us to regain our credit rating. That’s a pretty clear signal. The American people are there, the Democrats are there, a lot of reasonable Republicans are there, but they are terrified of these right wing splinter groups, the radical right, because they are so powerful in the primaries.”
Dean came out today said that the tea party is completely detached from reality. In essence, he was saying that you have to be high to believe that the debt deal was good thing for America. The former DNC chairman was correct in his assessment that the American people, the Democrats, and the reasonable Republicans are all on the page. The chaos comes from the fact that the Republican leadership is terrified of the tea party.
People talk about Obama caving to the Republicans, what about the Republican Party caving to a fringe group of right wing zealots? Why isn’t the GOP leadership being criticized for having no spine? When John Boehner had a choice, why did he give in to the tea party instead of working with House Democrats on a deal that could be passed without the tea partiers? Instead of bypassing the tea party, Boehner crumbled and gave in.
The House GOP leadership caused the debt ceiling crisis in order to pander to the tea party, so deserve the blame now that their big political gambit has hurt every single American.
Democrats have been on the offensive since S&P downgraded US debt on Friday night. Dean and other Democrats have seen the polls. They know how unpopular this debt deal was, and they also know that Republicans are being blamed by the American people for the deal and the way it was negotiated. The Democratic Party doesn’t deserve blame for intentionally causing the crisis that led to this downgrade. Democrats don’t control the House, and they aren’t the party that refused to pass a clean debt ceiling bill. This is all on the GOP and their tea party extremists.
By calling the tea party a right wing splinter group, Dean subtly reinforced the idea that the tea party is practicing something akin to political terrorism. They are not in the mainstream, and they will use any means necessary to get what they want.
Dean’s point was that America has been hijacked by a band of radicals who are high on their own ideology. When is the Republican Party going to learn that taking advice and policy guidance from a stoner is never a good idea?
The tea party either needs to put down the pipe and get sober, or their ideological addiction is going to take us all down with them.
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Arielle
Aug. 7th, 2011 at 5:47 pm
I strenuously object to the implication that the Tea Pary loons are “stoners” that need to “put down the pipe”. I know MANY people who smoke, myself included, and we all think that the Teabaggers are nucking futz. Don’t blame THEM on US! :(
Shiva (Moderator)
Aug. 7th, 2011 at 5:49 pm
I can agree with that
SueM2112
Aug. 7th, 2011 at 6:02 pm
Yeah, the tea party seems more like crackheads. Stoners don’t get violent (unless you try to take their twinkies! :-)
Jason Easley
Aug. 7th, 2011 at 6:34 pm
That’s why I used the term pipe and not bowl. Pipes are associated with crack, and bowls are pot.
Shiva (Moderator)
Aug. 7th, 2011 at 6:35 pm
Depends on your age lol
Shiva (Moderator)
Aug. 7th, 2011 at 6:28 pm
Strangely enough, around 50% of them are intent on losing their SS and medicare
They must be high
Jason Easley
Aug. 7th, 2011 at 6:33 pm
But Social Security and Medicare aren’t government programs, ha-ha-ha.
Jared D.
Aug. 7th, 2011 at 6:35 pm
As a stoner, I am completely offended by this. I don’t like being compared to the Tea Party and I certainly don’t like being lumped into the same category as terrorists. Besides, to pass legislation like this, and think it’s a good thing, you would have to be smoking crack.
wtf
Aug. 7th, 2011 at 6:37 pm
Haha I was just waiting for Dean to do another physco scream. Seriously though how can this be blamed on the tea party? I’m pretty sure all these problems started before the tea party had ever been thought of. As a matter of fact I’m pretty sure the tea party was created due to the ridiculous amount of spending our government does.
Remove us from all of the wars, stop foreign aid to war mongering countrys. Revamp the entitlement systems to actually give the money to those who need it. And stop acting like an 18 year old kid who just got his first credit card. IF THE MONEY IS NOT IN THE BANK THEN DON’T SPEND IT!
Shiva (Moderator)
Aug. 7th, 2011 at 6:45 pm
The drop in the rating was due to the tea bags refusing to compromise and demanding a default. The deeper problems are not.
yeah okay
Aug. 7th, 2011 at 8:57 pm
Yeah, and I’m sure you’re opposed to people taking out mortgages or home equity loans or car loans too… WHICH IS WHAT DEFICIT SPENDING IS.
wtf
Aug. 8th, 2011 at 6:59 pm
Taking out a loan that you have no means to pay back without raising taxes is a whole lot different than a mortgage or car loan. I mean you can not get a mortgage that you can not afford, and then go to your boss and say I’m sorry but my mortgage is too expensive you have to give me more money. Thats just not how it works, thats why the bank wants to know your income. People like you that don’t understand this are the reason we are in this mess. But thanks so much for explaining what DEFICIT SPENDING is.
Tina
Aug. 8th, 2011 at 6:49 am
The tea party was created because we elected a black president.Not because of the spending spree.If that WERE the case,they would have formed under Bush.
Bobfr
Aug. 7th, 2011 at 7:08 pm
This is an ideal time for Americans need to force the Republican Congressional Leadership to do their job. They work for us. It’s just that simple. It’s so simple it’s effectively overlooked.
Can you imagine any other job in which an employee decided their own work schedule and could leave the assembly line or the cash register or the call center or the control tower or the construction site or the operating table or intensive care unit or …. whenever they felt like it, irrespective of the consequences. Of course not – such a person would be lucky if they were only fired and not held liable for the harm they caused.
So, why should a member of Congress be allowed to skip town in the middle of a catastrophe – a catastrophe largely of their own making.
I try to focus on the obvious and sometimes simple facts.
The facts in this case are glaringly obvious and not at all complex.
Bush cut taxes on the wealthy, didn’t pay attention to hair on fire intelligence warnings (while on a months vacation in Summer 2001), started two wars, and signed legislation on an unpaid prescription drug plan – and vacationed more than any prior President.
And the consequences – near economic destruction of the US, horrible damage to our international credibility, massive unemployment and wealth expansion for the very few.
Not satisfied, Congressional Republicans since Jan 2009, have taken us to the brink of default, among all the other job killing and otherwise harmful stunts. And, then they leave town – on our dime.
Since most Americans actually do care about one another and our society and, also, have allot on their minds every day, ‘sound bites’ do matter in grabbing their attention. Humbly, I suggest that ’7% or less unemployment, end welfare for the rich, then you can vacation, Congress’ will resonate with them.
And, for those ‘hitting the streets’ I highly recommend that the street you hit is the one that leads to the offices of your Federal and State legislative representatives especially if they are Republicans – walk into their offices and spend your time there insisting that your representatives, folk who get a pay check because you pay your taxes, work day and night to create jobs and close tax exemptions for the wealthy and for corporations.
Yes.We.Can. … DO.More.Together!
Grasshopper
Aug. 7th, 2011 at 8:31 pm
Our chance to Protest the Tea Party: Sat. Oct. 15th at noon at your’s or a nearby City Hall a National Day of Peaceful Protest for job creation and for the wealthy to pay their fair share. The Awakening of the Middle Class. Please pass it on by any means possible to everyone you know. Lets Make this happen. Thanks, grasshopper.
Ingarose
Aug. 7th, 2011 at 8:39 pm
I think Dean is wrong. The tea party people are not stoned on pot, not even crack, (don’t know anything about crack though but smoked my last joint over 45 years ago), they are stupidly drunk on too much moonshine. It’s like a bar brawl, some people get very nasty, arrogant and dangerous when drunk. Yet, they can say that they are patriotic because booze is legal while pot is not.
Mikeyhatesit
Aug. 7th, 2011 at 10:31 pm
Is Howard Dean absolutely sure they need to drink? What if the problem was that the Tea Partiers were drinking the bong water? That can’t be good for them, either…
Dan Skinner
Aug. 8th, 2011 at 1:21 am
you wanna stop the teapartiers? Put antifreeze in their Ensure.
novenator
Aug. 8th, 2011 at 6:07 am
Stoner is not the appropriate term. Users of cannabis are mellow and like to laugh a lot. Tea Party people are like meth-heads, full of rage, anger, aggressiveness, and don’t care at all about the consequences for their actions.