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Jack Welch Admits He Has no Evidence
By: Hrafnkell HaraldssonOct. 6th, 2012more from Hrafnkell Haraldsson

We’re all familiar with the GOP’s blatant disregard for facts since the Bush presidency, but we saw this embrace of a false but more pleasing reality reach a nadir this week.
Look at the hair-rending frenzy on the right regarding the new unemployment rate numbers from the Bureau of Labor Statistics. As Rachel Maddow put it: Don’t like reality? Make your own. The numbers can’t possibly be right because they do not serve the Republican Party’s best interests (or their narrative of what’s happening in this country) therefore it’s not their narrative that is flawed but the numbers.
And the numbers are not only flawed, they’re being deliberately manipulated to make Obama look good, so the conspiracy theorists assert.
Jack Welch got the ball rolling with his tweet: “Unbelievable job numbers..these Chicago guys will do anything..can’t debate so change numbers.”
Yesterday afternoon, Chris Matthews got hold of Jack Welch on MSNBC and asked him about these charges. Welch answered like a man who knows he’s full of it but just won’t admit the hard truth: that the truth both about his tweet and about the unemployment rate, is unpalatable.
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Matthews got right to the point: “What evidence do you have that they got to the BLS?”
“I have no evidence to prove that, I just raised the question,” Welch insisted in what was by day’s end to become a mantra to him.
Matthews, to his credit, stuck to his guns: “No, you didn’t raise the question…You were asserting … did you talk to any economists?”
Since Welch clearly did not have access to hard data from economists, he fell back on what he knew had to be true: “Chris, I know that these numbers are gathered by a series of wild assumptions…but it seems coincidental that one month before the election they would end up at 7.8.”
Matthews pointed out to Welch that what people cared about was his analysis, not his attitude toward Obama. He pointed out that Welch “asserted corruption.”
So Matthews, who could see Welch had backed himself against a yawning precipice, graciously gave him an out: “Do you want to take that back? This is an assertion that there was jimmying with these numbers.”
Welch’s response was to laugh. “It’s not funny, Jack!” Matthews told him.
Still laughing, Welch said, “Chris, don’t lose it, now!”
“I’m not losing it, look at my face. I’m not losing it.” Matthews replied.
Given a chance to take back the tweet, Welch finally insisted, “I don’t want to take back one word in that tweet.”
Matthews made clear that Welch hadn’t gathered “any actual information or evidence” and Welch could not deny it. Because the numbers could not possibly be what they were, it had to be a White House conspiracy.
When pinned down, Welch came up with a bizarre “I don’t want to put words in the mouth of what I said last night” in an apparent attempt to avoid saying anything.
I suspect we now know who is writing Mitt Romney’s speeches.
Later, appearing on Anderson Cooper 360, Welch had had some time to think about things. He said, “I should have put a question mark on the end of that, let’s face it,”
Welch told Cooper, “Maybe their numbers were wrong before, maybe they’re wrong now but I don’t know. I am involved in this economy in a very deep way right now with lots of businesses. And this economy is not growing, I guarantee, you at 5 percent.”
To Cooper too, Welch admitted he had “no evidence.” He was “not accusing anybody of anything” he said, but at the same time did accuse somebody of something by insisting that the numbers in the report were impossible. “I’m not backing away, I’m not backing away from anything,” he said.
So which is it? You’re standing by your claim that “these Chicago guys” cooked the books but you’re not accusing them and you have no evidence.
And a question mark would have solved all this?
Cooper suggested to Welch that it was irresponsible to say “these Chicago guys will do anything” if Welch has “no facts.”
“I’m saying…this number is too important to not have a long discussion about how its arrived at,” Welch insisted.
When asked if there was any evidence of a White House ever cooking the books, Welch said, “I have no evidence of that” but followed it up with “somebody ought to be investigated.”
But the most important point both of Welch’s interviews yesterday was him admitting that he had no evidence. As he said to Cooper, when asked how, precisely, the books could be cooked, “I have no idea whether these books are cooked. I’m very clear about that.”
Yes, you were very clear in your tweet, Mr. Welch.
Not above a little tit for tat, Welch claimed that since the Obama campaign spent the last 48 hours accusing Romney of being a liar, he could accuse Obama of being a liar. But there is a big difference between the accusations: the Obama campaign had proof that Romney lied. Independent fact-checkers also pointed to those lies.
Meanwhile, Welch admits he has no evidence at all, but the accusation stands – with a question mark to make everything somehow more palatable.
Like Lehrer, Welch basically said to the American people, “So what?”
I think we’ve found the new Republican campaign slogan for 2012: “So what?
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SinghX
Oct. 6th, 2012 at 8:13 am
“…I think we’ve found the new Republican campaign slogan for 2012: “So what?…”
Oh,I don’t know…it sort of sounds like the same thing the Dickster used to intimidate American citizens when they demanded evidence of WMD’s, ect.
He also responded to similar questions with “So??”
Welch’s inappropriate laughter as he’s cornered for facts, given the chance to step away from Daily World News rumors, is the actual tell…
buckeyewill
Oct. 6th, 2012 at 9:23 am
Chaney:SO???????????
Not the GOP I remembered as a child
MichaelC
Oct. 6th, 2012 at 8:37 am
Jack Welch knows about conspiracies.
In 1999, GWBush political advisor Karl Rove contacted Welch and told him a Bush administration would initiate comprehensive deregulation of the broadcast industry and guaranteed that deregulation would be implemented in a way that would create phenomenal profits for conglomerates with significant media holdings, like GE.
Welch told several people at GE that the conversation with Rove convinced him a Bush presidency would result in billions of dollars of additional profits for General Electric. The journalists who had their paychecks signed by Welch knew favorable coverage of George W. Bush would be considered an outstanding contribution to the financial well being of GE.
The Republicans established surreptitious links with NBC news including “Meet The Press” and were soon boasting that Tim Russert would take their attacks on Al Gore and repeat them verbatim on air. Welch personally renegotiated Russert’s salary.
Welch spent election night 2000 at NBC’s decision desk with access to raw data not available to news anchors, writers, producers or other reporters. After a phone conversation with John Ellis, George W. Bush’s cousin and Fox News’ senior decision desk official who called both the Florida and the national election for Bush, Welch demanded to know why NBC was not also calling the election for Bush. Shortly after, NBC changed its call from Gore to Bush, was followed by all major TV news outlets.
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Anne
Oct. 6th, 2012 at 8:41 am
Welch came off as a doddering old fool whose judgment is clouded by his irrational hatred for this president. Chris Matthews was at his best when pressing Welch for factual evidence to support his bizarre statements, and of course, Welch was forced to admit that he had nothing. It’s no surprise, because it’s yet another lame attempt to discredit everything President Obama does in the overall effort to delegitimize him.
zumpie
Oct. 6th, 2012 at 3:22 pm
He kinda reminded me of Mr. Burns on The Simpsons
Reynardine
Oct. 6th, 2012 at 9:00 am
Well, we know what Welch is. Are we safe in assuming Jim Lehrer is the same thing?
Sally
Oct. 6th, 2012 at 9:12 am
Well, at least the guy had the cajones to appear with Matthews and Anderson. I’m shocked he didn’t remain sequestered on Fox as Mitt and Ryan are now. Remember when it was a big deal that Palin refused to go on MTP? Now it seems that the GOP will hide on Fox and so never be held to account for the lies and backtracking and more lies to cover the first set. I have the feeling old Jack wnted to get his message out beyond Fox, and he failed miserably. There is no excuse for what he did. Demonizing this President does nothing for the national debate, nor for the country. The GOP has torn us apart, and they are pleased as punch. But to hear them scream it, Obama is foreign and HE has never ever one little time reached out to them. America has caught on. We will not elect more liars to ruin this nation.
ourdad
Oct. 6th, 2012 at 11:33 am
Ihope you’re right. I know as an Independent I will NEVER vote for a REPUBLICAN they should renamed themselves the party of the RACIST.
j
Oct. 6th, 2012 at 10:13 am
I am surprised at McCain’s statement, saying he would put nothing past the administration. McCain has been in Washington most of his life, even I know that there is a firewall between the admi8nistration and the center that does the job numbers, they do not answer to anyone in the administration, the president has no idea what the figures are till 4.30
the evening before they are released, if McCain does not know this then I fear I was right some time ago and it is time for him to retire!
He is having many more senior moments these days, and is bitter about losing the election against Obama.
Tim
Oct. 6th, 2012 at 11:10 am
How a “pillar” of the community can be this irresponsible is beyond my comprehension.
Until the left wing starts labeling these guys like a scarlet letter our country is in real trouble.
SinghX
Oct. 6th, 2012 at 2:22 pm
“Pillar” of the community?! My good fellow and esteemed commenter, the term “Pillar of the community” always goes to the lady of the “Captain of Industry”, as in, “Ann of Romney” is the “Pillar of the community” to Lord Romney’s “Captain of Industry”..see? Welch is merely asserting his privileged persona in the publics face as a has-been Captain of Industry who knows nothing and should shut his mouth.
Senator Blutarsky
Oct. 6th, 2012 at 12:05 pm
Conservatives (of whom I am one) dismayed by the misleadingly bullish headline unemployment number should focus less on the probability that the numbers were cooked, which is quite low, and more on the probability of mean reversion in the November number, which is high.
And they should really avoid associating their own credibility with that of Jack Welch, who in his own memoir offered evidence that GE routinely engaged in what in boardrooms is called “earnings management,” and out of boardrooms is called “fraud.”
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1voice1vote
Oct. 6th, 2012 at 1:15 pm
We can do the innuendo
We can dance and sing
When it’s said and done we haven’t told you a thing
We all know that Crap is King
Give us dirty laundry! – Don Henley
Jack “I have no evidence” Welch confidently smears the BLS jobs report and every American worker that put this report together. Attempted swiftboating is so pedestrian in 2012, but it typifies the reckless driving of today’s corporate Republican Party, brazenly. Way to leave yourself a “Crap is King” legacy, GE dude.
Inez
Oct. 6th, 2012 at 9:44 pm
My Dad would ask this question. “why are there more horses”asses than there are horses?”
allen
Oct. 7th, 2012 at 1:16 am
Jack Welch is a plutocrat who has done more harm to working men and women in America than almost any other 1%’er
He is obviously an Obama hater and like FDR , Obama should welcome Welch’s and the other modern day plutocrats hatred and CALL THEM OUT ON IT!
THEY HAVE DESTROYED THE MIDDLE CLASS IN THIS COUNTRY, NOT THE UNIONS!