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John Boehner Misleads America On Job Numbers
john Boehner Hides the Real Reason for the Job Numbers
Speaker Boehner is being completely dishonest when he made his statement on the month of August’s job numbers. He said,
“Private-sector job growth continues to be undermined by the triple threat of higher taxes, more failed ‘stimulus’ spending, and excessive federal regulations. Together, these Washington policies have created a fog of uncertainty that’s left small businesses unable to hire and American families worried about the future.
“President Obama is slated to address Congress next week and I look forward to hearing his ideas to bolster private-sector job creation. The American people are still asking, ‘where are the jobs?’ Republicans are listening and focusing on removing barriers to job growth, whether it’s eliminating unnecessary regulations that drive up prices or stopping Washington from spending money it doesn’t have.
I’m hopeful the White House will take this opportunity to work with us to end the uncertainty facing families and small businesses, and create a better environment for long-term economic growth and private-sector job creation.”
This man, the leader of the Republican Party, didn’t read the BLS report or if he did he is not telling America the entire story.
Here are the facts via the Bureau Of Labor And Statistics PDF file on the real jobs numbers.
The private sector added 17,000 more jobs including a negative number of -45,000 in the tele-communications sector due to the CWA/IBEW strike against Verizon which knocked the total number down.
The only major sector that lost jobs was the government sector! It lost 17,000 employees. In one year, August of 2010 the public sector has lost over 300,000 jobs.
The sectors that saw the biggest increase in employment was healthcare and hospitals. That sector added 30,000 jobs in August. This brings me to the talking point of over regulation.
If what the republicans say is true, the healthcare industry should be shedding jobs due to “ObamaCares” right? In one year the healthcare industry added 610,000 jobs. I thought regulation would be killing this industry.
The other private sectors that added jobs were the professional and business services industry, that sector added 8,000 jobs, mining added 6,000 jobs.
So overbearing regulations and taxes caused the unemployment not to change?
John Boehner obviously didn’t get the memo that most of the job losses were in the public sector, and most of the job growth was in the private sector.
So if we are going to head into another recession, it will be due to John Boehner and the GOP who will not allow towns, cities and states to hire teachers, firefighters and others. It’s the Republican Party that has attacked public sector jobs throughout the nation, especially under the tutelage of Republican governors in states like Wisconsin, Florida, Ohio, Michigan, and more. Austerity has been a failure throughout the world and the GOP is in lock step behind the rest of them, to push us off the cliff.
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Marc McKenzie
Sep. 2nd, 2011 at 12:34 pm
“So if we are going to head into another recession, it will be due to John Boehner and the GOP who will not allow towns, cities and states to hire teachers, firefighters and others. It’s the Republican Party that has attacked public sector jobs throughout the nation, especially under the tutelage of Republican governors in states like Wisconsin, Florida, Ohio, Michigan, and more. Austerity has been a failure throughout the world and the GOP is in lock step behind the rest of them, to push us off the cliff.”
Yep.
And yet, there will be those who will howl that there really is no difference between the two parties; that this is all Obama’s fault, or some other twisted meme.
The true cause of our problems has been the selfish, bullying attitude of the GOP that, since 2008, decided that they would not let a black man who won the Presidential election fair and square be allowed to fix the mess that the GOP President before him left behind.
Thanks to short-sightedness on the part of the Left in 2010, the GOP took control of the House and has now caused Congressional gridlock. The results are terrible. Yet the MSM and some on the Left will not call out the GOP, choosing instead to blame the President or claim that both parties are responsible, which is certainly NOT the case.
2012 is the time to make the GOP aware that their actions will no longer be tolerated. Will we go out and make sure that this happens, or are we going to pout and stay home to “send a message”?
Jeremy H
Sep. 2nd, 2011 at 12:50 pm
There is a difference between the parties, the policies…. not so much
jtl
Sep. 2nd, 2011 at 1:54 pm
We expect the liars to change now..The media and print have allowed these traitors to lie to the American people for decades..not so much as recently but still..
Here is more in the way of disputing the republucan lies..
www.mcclatchydc.com/2011/...
MadMax
Sep. 2nd, 2011 at 4:39 pm
In 2008 Obama held a super majority in the House and Senate. He spent 800,000,000,000 in “stimulus” spending promising the unemployment rate would not get above 8% (it’s 9.1% today). He spent 2 years passing ObamaCare and ignoring jobs. Then spent Trillions more on QE1, QE2 and soon to be QE3. I’m no fan of the Republicans but these kind of comments just make the liberal side look stupid.
Sarah Jones
Sep. 2nd, 2011 at 4:54 pm
You’re right, he never should have put Bush’s two wars on the budget, he should have left them off the budget like any responsible leader.
MadMax
Sep. 2nd, 2011 at 5:16 pm
Oh come on Sarah, not the it’s “Bush’s Fault” excuse. Sorry Sarah but after nearly 3 years that excuse is dead. Obama wanted the job. He increased the national debt over 4 Trillion and he is currently running a budget deficit of 1.5 Trillion for just this year alone. That’s this year, not 3 years ago when Bush was in office. At what point is this Obama’s economy? Gov Walker, who I know you’re no big fan of “inherited a $3.3 billion deficit mess from his predecessor, including a $144 million expense added on the way out the door. Unlike Obama, Governor Walker did not make blaming the last guy his re-election strategy on day one of his first term. He went to work; he did his job; he fixed the budget. It was not easy; doing the right thing rarely is”.
Like it or not, this is Obama’s economy. This is his gov’t and what we’re seeing are the results of his policies.
And speaking of wars, Obama had a super majority in both houses for his first 2 years. Why didn’t he end the wars like he promised to? I’m against the wars and spending, I thought he was too? Instead of ending those wars, he started another one with Libya. Is that Bush’s fault to?
Ray Medeiros
Sep. 2nd, 2011 at 5:21 pm
@madmax, just wondering if you read the article? It doesnt seem that way. Sorry
Shiva (Moderator)
Sep. 2nd, 2011 at 5:34 pm
Er……….. Walker was on track to a surplus till he gave it away
MadMax
Sep. 2nd, 2011 at 5:35 pm
@Ray, I read the article. What are you referring to when you say, “doesn’t seem that way”. That this is not Obama’s economy? That blaming your predecessor for 3 years is bordering on pathetic. That Obama could’ve ended the wars, yet chose not to do so?
Sarah Jones
Sep. 2nd, 2011 at 5:53 pm
Gosh your little Barbie Fox world sounds so great. Do we all get candy if we elect the cowboy?
MadMax
Sep. 2nd, 2011 at 5:40 pm
Shiva – Did you see July’s jobs numbers? WI created more jobs than any other state. Since Walker took office, WI has created nearly 1/2 of all jobs in the United States. Did you see how will Illinois did? After passing one of the largest tax increases in history they lost more jobs than any other state.
www.deptofnumbers.com/une...
Ignia
Sep. 2nd, 2011 at 5:56 pm
@Madmax
Wait… I thought Texas created nearly half of all jobs in the United States?
Or, at least, that’s what Perry’s campaign advertises. If “almost half” plus “Almost half”= “almost 1″, which I would assume to be true, are you saying WI and TX are the only 2 states in the union that had any sort of significant job growth?
MadMax
Sep. 2nd, 2011 at 6:03 pm
Texas has created nearly 1/2 of all the jobs in the United States since the start of the Recession. WI has created nearly 1/2 the jobs since the beginning of this year, you know since Walker took over and declared the state, “Open for Business”. WI is now creating more jobs than TX but they have a lot of catching up to do since the recession.
Sarah Jones
Sep. 2nd, 2011 at 6:15 pm
Actually, Wisconsin just had 6000 teachers retire early, a part of the public sector hit that you see in this report. And the Texas miracle is a mirage, and has been broken down by reality too many times to repeat here. You are clearly well stocked with right wing talking points, but low on facts.
Ray Medeiros
Sep. 2nd, 2011 at 6:33 pm
Max, they Wisconsin numbers are ridiculous, considering Massachusetts also created HALF of the jobs that month also. So NO jobs were created in the entire country except for WI and MA? Doubt it
MadMax
Sep. 2nd, 2011 at 8:02 pm
Ray – I apologize I said July but I meant June employment numbers. Check out a link to the article below. Also notice that WI is on track to create 250,000 so far this year so it’s not a one month aberration.
“Last month’s employment report from the Department of Labor offered more dismal news about the U.S. economy. And while many areas of the country continue to struggle, there are a few bright spots. Gov. Scott Walker happens to be presiding over one in Wisconsin, which added a net of 9,500 new jobs in June — more than half the 18,000 created nationwide.
Wisconsin’s resurgence comes after three years of job losses — more than 150,000 jobs were lost in the three years before Walker became governor. Since he took office in January, the state has added 39,300 private-sector jobs. That puts Walker on pace to exceed his goal of 250,000 new jobs in four years.”
blog.heritage.org/2011/08...
Sarah Jones
Sep. 2nd, 2011 at 8:14 pm
BUzz.
WI unemployment grew in July, with net loss of 8,200 jobs. 12,500 private sector jobs were lost which was offset by a gain of public sector jobs (gee, I thought Walker was against that). Imagine what those numbers are going to look like when the 6,000 teachers who just retired early due to pay loss are calculated.
See, Walker took office with a surplus. You have to remember that. And though he went on ad on about a deficit, it turned out months later (mayish) that WI still had a surplus from the former governor.
Now, I grant you, that surplus won’t be in evidence after Walker is done- no revenue, no surplus.
But also, FYI — Politifact has found the claim you made to be incorrect. You might want to check your sources.
After employment figures for June 2011 were announced, the Wisconsin Republican Party, among others, declared that over half of the job growth in America occurred in Wisconsin.
We graded that statement False, given that the GOP’s math made an apples-to-oranges comparison. In short, Walker, the state GOP and the others touting the national numbers are making a flawed comparison. The Bureau of Labor Statistics does separate national and state-by-state studies, each with different parameters and margins of error. The agency says it’s wrong to mix the two estimates — a warning included as a footnote on the documents themselves.
Here’s how they put it:
“State estimation procedures are designed to produce accurate data for each individual state. (The bureau) independently develops the national employment series and does not force state estimates to sum to national totals nor vice versa.
Jim
Sep. 3rd, 2011 at 9:39 am
Wisconsin’s unemployment is up both in June and July:
www.wsaw.com/home/headlin...
michelle
Sep. 6th, 2011 at 2:37 pm
When are you people going to get the politics of this thing correct “The Debt Ceiling Hostage Crisis” is one of the primary factors that effected the lack of job growth in August and contributed to lack of confidence in the markets!!!
Second—Obama is not to blame for our nations debt!!! Lets stop the propaganda machine right now…right here!!!!
Marc McKenzie
Sep. 2nd, 2011 at 5:15 pm
“In 2008 Obama held a super majority in the House and Senate.”
Wrong.
“He spent 800,000,000,000 in “stimulus” spending promising the unemployment rate would not get above 8% (it’s 9.1% today).”
Wrong.
“He spent 2 years passing ObamaCare and ignoring jobs.”
Wrong.
Look, you want to make a point, come back with hard facts, not memes that can be tossed in the trash if you do some actual research, okay?
MadMax
Sep. 2nd, 2011 at 5:33 pm
Are you telling me Obama didn’t have a Democratic majority in the House and Senate when he took office? – Common knowledge but if you really want to look it up, check out Wikipedia.
Are you saying that he didn’t spend 800Billion on Stimulus? Actually according to the CBO it was 821B at a minimum average cost of 230,000 per job saved or created.
www.cnsnews.com/news/arti...
Are you saying Obama didn’t promise that after passing his Stimulus plan the unemployment rate would not go above 8% and today it’s at 9.1%?
www.time.com/time/busines...
My point is that Obama had majority control of the House and Senate for his first 2 years. He spent Trillions in Stimulus and the US has a 9.1% unemployment rate. He passed ObamaCare and since then 1000s of companies have requested and been granted waivers. – Again common knowledge, look it up.
Jim
Sep. 2nd, 2011 at 10:12 pm
“In 2008 Obama held a super majority in the House and Senate.”
WRONG — He had a majority in the House but most of those were “blue dogs”: conservative democrats that often sided with the GOP rather than Democrats. He also didn’t have the 60 votes needed in the Senate to overcome a filibuster. Sen. Franken wasn’t sworn in until July 2009, Ted Kennedy was sick and missed most votes, he was replaced by Scott Brown in 2010. He never had super majorities to carry out his agenda.
blog.reidreport.com/2011/...
“He spent 800,000,000,000 in “stimulus” spending promising the unemployment rate would not get above 8% (it’s 9.1% today).”
WRONG — The $789 billion dollar stimulus created over 3 million jobs and staved off another great depression. He never promised to hold unemployment to under 8%, that’s what he hoped. But things were so much worse than he was led to believe. Remember, he was sworn in the end of Jan. 2009 when we lost 689,000 jobs. The next month, 600,000 more. The stimulus didn’t start taking effect until the summer of 2009. Anytime you start in a hole of 9 million jobs, it’s going to take a looooong time to dig out. Clinton created 21 million jobs in 8 years, Bush lost -1.7 million over 8 years.
www.usatoday.com/money/ec...
Also, unemployment was 8.8% in Dec. 2010 and has risen to 9.3% in 2011 when the GOP took over Congress and State governments.
“He spent 2 years passing ObamaCare and ignoring jobs.”
WRONG — The president officially announced his push for Health Care reform in summer 2009 and it passed in March 2010 — that’s 8 months, not 2 years. At the same time he was saving the auto industry, cutting taxes for small businesses, and investing in infrastructure projects. And health care reform has lowered costs:
www.medcitynews.com/2011/...
Max, you are what is wrong with this country. Your cynicism and “both parties are bad” mentality is blinding you to the truth.
Sarah Jones
Sep. 2nd, 2011 at 10:15 pm
That’s a talking point from the far right “both parties do it” — translation, can we just forget Bush already? Because as you have pointed out, the facts don’t bear that out and no, the Democratic Party is not nuts like the modern day Republican Party is. The Democratic Party has some nuts in it, but it is not ruled by nuts, unlike the GOP with its clown show of TV con artist tent barking “leaders”
Eykis
Sep. 2nd, 2011 at 5:36 pm
Max,
I am completely sick to death of you and your ilk with the constant “Obama promised….UE not above 8%…..” The President NEVER made such a statement. The only statement that was ever made talking about 8% was made by Christine Romer….at that point in time, NOBODY KNEW how HUGE a mess this was….
Get off the the TPs, we are sick of them.
MadMax
Sep. 2nd, 2011 at 5:44 pm
OK fine, forget about the 8%. Obama spent 821Billion and unemployment is at 9.1%, that’s a fact. The CBO estimated that each job saved or created cost on average $230,000, that’s a fact. Obama’s jobs advisor, Jeff Immelt of GE closed down a manufacturing plant recently and moved several thousand jobs to China, that’s a fact. How well is Obama doing in creating jobs now? What’s the solution, more taxes and more regulation? Please enlighten me on how much more the gov’t needs to tax and regulate to get job creators to create jobs.
Ignia
Sep. 2nd, 2011 at 6:03 pm
Also, keep in mind that for almost every single Job that Obama’s stimulus has created, the Republicans have insisted that we cut government jobs. Laying off teachers, police officers, firefighters, social workers, secretaries, office aides, regulators, safety inspectors, DMV agents, test givers, Department of Family Services agents, parole officers, prison guards, health inspectors, food inspectors, postal service workers, mint employees, state park rangers (and the list goes on)….
(And they say regulations kill jobs…)
I honestly will defend Obama- until the day I am proven wrong to my satisfaction- against these attacks.
If Obama’s stimulus killed jobs… how did it do so? Show me your logic!
MadMax
Sep. 2nd, 2011 at 8:04 pm
@Ignia – I have not seen any evidence of your claim. Can you please provide some documentation on it. The Repubs have been just as disappointing as the Dems on spending and jobs. As far as I remember, both parties passed a spending plan to grow the gov’t by 10 Trillion over the next 10 years, while creating a “super committee” to find a way to cut 1.5 Trillion in future spending. The budget deficit for this year is still projected to be 1.5 Trillion regardless of any efforts from either party.
Eykis
Sep. 2nd, 2011 at 5:40 pm
Max,
Dubya was POTUS in 2008 and FAILED to put two wars and Medicare-D on the books; 40% of stimulus was TAX CUTS.
Your arguments are ridiculous…
MadMax
Sep. 2nd, 2011 at 5:51 pm
I’m no fan of Dubya. He passed Medicare-D which was a liberal, progessive gov’t expansion program and “No Child Left Behind” which was another liberal, progressive, gov’t expansion spending program. However, to be fair, he passed both of these with a Democratically controlled Congress. Are you telling me that when Obama took office he didn’t know that either of these programs existed?
Sarah Jones
Sep. 2nd, 2011 at 6:13 pm
Yes, Bush was a liberal all right….I mean, now that he’s an abject failure, of course. Now that the Tea Party is pretending to care about all matters fiscal (when they are clearly just a social movement of rebranded birchers, birthers, and Dominionists – oh, pardon the redundancy), they must distance themselves from the Big Spender whilst pretending to embrace Reagan, under whom the rich were taxed quite a bit higher than they are now. Oh, ideology! What fickle friends you do make.
MadMax
Sep. 2nd, 2011 at 8:10 pm
Sarah, I know this is hard but forget Bush. Bush is gone. Bush will never be president again. Obama is the president and has been our POTUS for nearly 3 years. Open your eyes and see where the country is today under 3 years of Obama leadership. You would be more convincing defending his policies than blaming someone who left office 3 years ago. It’s interesting that your entire argument is, Bush’s fault, TeaParty’s fault, Reagan’s fault, etc. Please defend Obama’s policies on the merits of the policy.
MadMax
Sep. 2nd, 2011 at 6:01 pm
And BTW, I’m not making an argument, I am merely pointing out the facts. You can look at the facts and tell yourself they are wrong but the facts are the facts. Obama has been president for nearly 3 years. Obama held a majority in congress for his first 2 years. Obama passed an 821Billion stimulus bill that his own people have said saved & created jobs at a rate of 230,000 per job (there are lots of other estimates that range as high as 600,000 per job but I quoted the CBO estimate). Obama had the power his first two years to end both wars but he didn’t. Obama engaged in Libya (without the consent of Congress) at a cost of nearly 1 Billion (abcnews.go.com/blogs/poli...).
BTW, have you noticed that Congress has not passed a budget since the day Obama took office. They made one attempt and it was so ridiculous that it was voted down in the Senate 97-0.
And as I said, I’m no fan of Dubya. He never ran across a spending bill that he couldn’t sign, but again the last thing he did was nearly 3 years ago. At what point does Obama take responsibility for anything?
Ignia
Sep. 2nd, 2011 at 6:05 pm
Same day Clinton stops taking responsibility for Dubya’s screwups. :D
Ray Medeiros
Sep. 2nd, 2011 at 6:34 pm
Just wondering, if the stimulus was a failure, does that ALSO include the 300 billion dollars in tax cuts were also?
Ray Medeiros
Sep. 2nd, 2011 at 6:36 pm
As for the majority in the Senate…NOPE..not until June of 2009 when Al Franken was sworn in and only until August of 2009 when Ted Kennedy passed away.
MadMax
Sep. 2nd, 2011 at 8:06 pm
Ray – they still held a majority, they however lost a SUPER Majority the day Scott Brown, the so called Republican, was elected. You may not be aware of this but the Dems still hold a majority in the Senate. They got their butts handed to them in the House in 2010, but they still maintain control of the Senate.
Ray Medeiros
Sep. 2nd, 2011 at 9:41 pm
But you are forgetting the Senate rules..they filibuster almost everything including bathroom breaks
Sarah Jones
Sep. 2nd, 2011 at 12:44 pm
Record number of teachers retired in WI precisely because of Walker’s policies. Thanks, GOP. They turn around and blame Obama for their crap?
MadMax
Sep. 2nd, 2011 at 5:07 pm
True but in the 8 months since Governor Walker signed the budget repair bill WI has gone from a budget deficit to a budget surplus. From another site,
“All over the state, local government and school districts are saving money, instituting merit pay for teachers, reducing class sizes, improving services, and reducing tax burdens on the real working class. The rank-and-file teachers in Milwaukee have now mutinied, forcing their own union leaders to re-open contract negotiations to bring back teachers laid off by their union’s intransigence. Whose plan do they demand their unions adopt? Governor Scott Walker’s plan – imagine that.
Wisconsin has already paid back its long-overdue debt to the state of Minnesota, and it is paying back its debts to trust funds raided over the past decade. Walker’s fiscal responsibility led to favorable borrowing terms, saving millions each month in lower interest and fees.”
I find it interesting that the one major principal overlooked is that WI didn’t outlaw or bust Unions. Instead they gave Teachers a chose to join the union or not. People should not have a problem with Unions, what they should have a problem with is FORCED Unionization. When the first principle of any organization is FORCE then the rest is irrelevant. If you are a teacher in WI today, you now have the choice to join the union or not. That sure sounds like freedom to me.
I wish retired teachers all the best but for those who are staying they are getting better wor
scott
Sep. 6th, 2011 at 2:37 am
Dearest max,
I like how you put forced unionization out just like the national right to work organization does.Right-wing selfish people like you have a lot to do with why this country is the shape it is in,such as:(free trade, comptime for overtime,end prevailing wage,voter supression,etc.I strongly suspect that you have some connection with one of the following:the koch brothers,alec,or the national right-to-work organization.Keep drinking your fox news koolaid,teabag.
neil
Sep. 2nd, 2011 at 2:19 pm
What ever it takes as long as Obama is a one term president.Kick the whole country to the curb?Not a problem in the gops rheumy eyes.
novenator
Sep. 2nd, 2011 at 3:27 pm
He’s a conservative, and that’s what they do: try to CON people.
Brown cow
Sep. 3rd, 2011 at 8:13 am
The stimulus keeps getting mentioned. Is there anyone who knows where to find information on what each state did with their stimulus money ? I’m thinking I read somewhere that Rick Perry just used his to balance his budget and none of it went to road repairs or whatever would create some jobs. If the stimulus money wasn’t used to create jobs, then of course it’s going to fail.