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Millions of America’s Gun Nuts Aren’t Hiding Their Yearning for Civil War
This country is in trouble; not the sequester or the debt ceiling or closing down the country. The Fed and Congress can reverse those issues in a finger snap. Our trouble is coming from the barrel of a gun from rabid paranoids and the people “on the take.” Include also, terrified legislators staring down that barrel from clever manipulators like Karl Rove, in the employ of filthy rich maggots with no conscience.
The farce that is the congressional reaction to the Sandy Hook Bushmaster Children’s Slaughter (BCS) continues unabated. A Senate Judiciary Panel was holding a February 27 hearing on a bill laughingly described as an assault weapons ban (with a mere 2,200 exceptions). Before them was a tearful construction worker Neil Heslin. He’s the father of 1 of the 20 BCS child victims, cherubic, six-year-old Jesse Lewis Heslin. He held up a framed photo portrait of Jesse sitting on his dad’s lap, the picture the very quintessence of a loving parent-child relationship.
Neither the grieving parent or the portrait seemed to emotionally change a single expression or mind of the right-wing gun worshiping members of the panel. Most of whom were wondering which fancy restaurant the gun lobbyists would spring for after the ordeal of hearing yet another sob story was over.
Heslin had also appeared as one of numerous invitees to a series of General Assembly Task Force hearings held in several rooms of the Legislative Office Building about five weeks prior to the Senate Judiciary Panel. An estimated 1,500 NRA gun nuts were out in force. Some of them split off into the room where Heslin was testifying. He brought a different photo of his son to this inquiry, hoping a human face, especially such a precious young human face, would encourage the legislators to do something of substance. The NRAssholes in the room heckled Mr. Heslin still deep in his grief.
There are about 90 proposed bills out there. Most of them are centered on background checks and outing those with mental disabilities as societies’ pariahs and modern-day lepers. All the better to take no responsible action against handguns or most semi-autos.
The mentally ill account for less than 10% of the problem. That’s 90% left ignored. Households with guns statistics show that a family member, friend or acquaintance is 43 times more likely to be killed in that house than in a dwelling that is gun-free. About half of intruder killings are drug-related. A vast majority of those breaking through the door or window with mayhem in their hearts know their victims. Despite fanciful gun nut claims to the contrary, several hundred “stand your ground” defensive killings by homeowners meet the criteria as justified; though that number will grow as more states adopt legislation that says it’s perfectly OK to off that annoying neighbor banging on your door for the return of his lawnmower. “That’ll teach the pushy bastard.”
Here’s a small sampling of the most recent gun killings in my hood with a handful of national homicides thrown in for good measure.
A self-styled pimp was arrested in LA after firing a fatal shot in Vegas a few days earlier into the car driven by a rapper. The pair had argued outside a strip joint and the pimp caught up with the rapper’s Maserati at an intersection and killed him, causing the car to veer into a taxi, resulting in a fire that killed 2 more people.
A couple days before the Vegas mess, a college kid was shot dead at a residence hall near Coastal Carolina University in Conway, South Carolina. The 19-year-old was shot 4 or 5 times. Authorities arrested a 20-year-old local bad ass March 1st and added murder to his rap sheet.
An 81-year-old Carolina coot shot a repo man to death in Sumpter County as he attempted to tow away the old fools’ vehicle. In the same county a women was shot and killed trying to break up a fight. An 18-year-old has been arrested and charged with murder. A Connecticut grandmother committed suicide after she took a revolver from the family residence, picked up her 2 year-old and six month-old grandsons from day care and later shot them both dead. The family knew she was bipolar and mentally troubled. Yet, there was a gun; just sitting there.
Speaking of young, young children, a 4 year-old Houston tot found his sleeping dad’s stolen .40-caliber handgun and fatally shot himself in the stomach while the punk father slept a few feet away. Police found drug paraphernalia and weed in the house.
Every edition of my local paper features one or more gun death headlines. Another shooting either within a 30 mile radius of my residence or somewhere in the U.S. Just another day of the “take a life” culture that is America. And every day another bunch of extremist legislators and a few DINO’s defend with every fiber of their being, any attempts to kill fewer children and adults with guns.
Gun manufacturer’s are tightening the screws to preserve their evil craft. Dozens of gun manufacturers now refuse to sell to state law enforcement agencies because their state governments are “restricting the Second Amendment.”
Ronnie Barrett is Chairman and CEO of Barrett Firearms. His is quite a story. He’s been honored as a civilian who created a gun especially for the U.S. military and put together a commercial 82A1 from scratch. But I have to leave my admiration at the door because of statements like the one that appeared on the company’s Facebook page as reproduced on the Blaze website. “Barrett opposes those who are illegally disarming the American public from their efficient arms and creating superior armed elitist government agencies.”
As remarkable as the development of the commercial 82A1 .50-caliber might have been this weapon has no business in civilian hands. Which is what the California legislature realized in barring it from private ownership. It’s a vicious firearm with extraordinary killing power, close or at great distances. It will pierce any armored vehicle short of a tank.
So there you have it, the latest movement designed not only to arm the citizenry like so many rogue pirates, but disarm law enforcement. About 50 manufacturers have signed on with momentum supposedly growing.
Of the 310 million guns in America, I’d guess right wing racist, paranoid radicals own at least three-quarters of them. What does that tell you? It appears that a fair percentage of the population wants a Civil War redux. Whether we’ve reached the point of no return is open to debate. An across-the-board Democratic victory in 2014 would end that debate.
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Goddess1871
Mar. 3rd, 2013 at 9:05 pm
I don’t suppose there’s any hope that these asshats will all stand in a circle and pull the trigger on each other.
mjh
Mar. 3rd, 2013 at 9:21 pm
Not a chance.
They don’t know what a circle is . . .
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Reynardine
Mar. 3rd, 2013 at 9:39 pm
It’s the same shape as an asshole, only bigger. Surely they can understand that.
Robert Thornton
Mar. 4th, 2013 at 5:14 pm
Wow! I guess I’ve just been labeled a “coot”, an old fool, a gun nut, and an asshat. And no, we wont be standing in a circle shooting each other. But I thank you for revealing your true feelings about your fellow american decorated war veterans. Just don’t try to change the constitution or tread upon my rights and you’ll be OK with me. Try to remember that I’m one of the warriors that fought for your right to call people hurtful things like that. Happy in Plantation, Robert. AKA DEFCON4
fedded-up
Mar. 4th, 2013 at 8:18 pm
Ah, the paranoia runs deep in this one. Interesting that you read that article and adopted the labels given to people that flagrantly violated any and all laws, re: homicide in all its flavors. Says more about you than you perhaps intended, methinks. Nowhere in that article is a derogatory term of any kind directed at veterans. Not even veterans that own firearms. Your unjustified paranoia completely negates any point you were trying to make.
EvieK
Mar. 4th, 2013 at 10:19 pm
Interesting how you keep mentioning YOUR rights. What about the rights of the parents of the kids who were killed at Sandy Hook to see their children grow up? What about the rights of the children themselves to live? Isn’t living the most basic right of all? Life, liberty and the pursuit of hapiness and all that? Others rights to own dangerous weapons should NEVER trump anyone’s most basic right to live. Yet I keep seeing the same selfish arguments from gun enthusiasts. Sensible gun laws aren’t taking away anyone’s rights. It’s showing we all care enough about each other and future generations to make our country a sane, safe place for everyone to LIVE.
Paws
Mar. 5th, 2013 at 1:26 pm
Just so you know, the Constitution was written so that it COULD be changed. That said, it is monumentally difficult to add an amendment to the Constitution so I’m not sure why you are afraid of it actually being changed. Perhaps you should read up on just what it takes and maybe you wouldn’t be so afraid of it happening.
Furthermore, your right to own a gun does not trump my right to not be shot with said gun.
As an aside, your serving your country is commendable but it doesn’t give you anymore rights than anyone who hasn’t served.
Reynardine
Mar. 3rd, 2013 at 9:09 pm
Don’t think they aren’t being instigated. What can’t be won by the ballot might, the instigators calculate, be won by the bullet; but if an insurrection or two gets put down, they can just whistle and say, “Oh, nothing.”
Jo Hargis
Mar. 4th, 2013 at 10:59 am
You bet they’re being instigated! The newest angle is how the NRA is trying to convince our Black population that they “need” guns to protect themselves against the government. This is a blatant attempt to sway them into the GOP voters column by instilling fear of government. The ultimate irony. The racist arseholes who have spent decades perpetuating the stereotype of “the black guy with a gun is scary” are now trying to arm the same population for political purposes.
Our president has a plan to turn Congress blue in ’14. People may not agree with everything he does, but dayum, we need to have his back on this!
USMCvet
Mar. 4th, 2013 at 1:42 pm
As an Afr American male from the US Marine Corps, I, too, have heard this. However, I can assure you that neither the NRA or the racist puppet, Ted Nugent, that they are propping up to put out there will work. The good thing about being Black: We see RIGHT through the GOP and the NRA. That’s why we don’t vote for them. They are after our vote and it can’t be bought.
phooeyrat
Mar. 3rd, 2013 at 9:33 pm
That’s why all of our Govt. officials who are not part of this potential problem should now be directing ( if they have not already done so ) the FBI, drones, and our Homeland-Security services to be keeping an eye 24/7 on all of these radical people and their leaders ( if they are deemed to warrant such activity ); in order to prevent another civil-war from happening again. In my opinion.
Shiva(Moderator)
Mar. 3rd, 2013 at 10:02 pm
What is funny about this is, corporations dont get the fact that revolutions stop employment and purchasing. Gun manufacturers dont get that sooner or later guns wont be sold. If the revolution is successful, what will be the need for guns?
What about the world? Would the US be then viewed as something to be rid of?
If there’s a revolution over guns, then the guns trump the constitution and make it meaningless. Society living under the threat of guns has no freedoms. I think we can safely assume these idiots only want guns and power, not America
Kit
Mar. 3rd, 2013 at 10:43 pm
Ummm…. I am a liberal democrat and I love this web site and I am pretty much for tighter regulation on firearms… especially background checks and limiting high capacity magazines….. But… I have to say…..The title of this story has nothing to do with what was written and written poorly at that…. Please do a better job… If you are going to make the headline about gun nuts wanting a civil war…. there needs to be something in the story about “gun nuts wanting to start a civil war”…..
Reynardine
Mar. 3rd, 2013 at 11:45 pm
Kit, there’s been a running discussion on this blog about that. Maybe it should have been recapped for people like you who are seeing it for the first time, but yeah, there are quite a few examples in the dextrosphere.,
GeneralLerong
Mar. 3rd, 2013 at 11:03 pm
I for one welcome our new Chinese overlords.
Bill Talley (@Political_Bill)
Mar. 4th, 2013 at 3:31 am
43 TIMES (not 43%) more likely that a household member is shot than an intruder.
Dan Alter
Mar. 4th, 2013 at 6:48 pm
“43 times not 43%”. Show us the link to the peer reviewed data for both statistics. The number of violent crimes went down many times more than the number of accidents went up, and most accidents could be prevented by teaching children gun safety in schools. “Why not teaching the four rules of gun safety to our children is nuts” www.no1stcostlist.com/For...
The price of self defense is not free, but it sure can be minimized.
Here are the FBI statistics. www.naturalnews.com/03870...
Finally, the police do not and in fact are not supposed to defend you. Supreme court decision.
www.nytimes.com/2005/06/2...;
When are you scared of guns people going to grow up and realize Liberty means you own your own body, that’s why a woman is entitled to choose an abortion. You only get to force slaves to reproduce.
I like you own my body, and most certainly have the right, no duty, to defend it, my family, and property, just as you do.
If you are afraid to, hide in a closet.
Michael Lloy
Mar. 4th, 2013 at 9:57 pm
You don’t need a gun to defend yourself. Pepper spray, tasers, and non-lethal alternatives exist for a reason.
It’s alarming how small-minded some of these gun nuts are. I’m 21 years old and frequent the downtown core of my city almost daily and go to bars on the weekends and have yet to be in a situation where I’m forced to defend myself with violence.
Maybe it’s because I’m Canadian. And maybe it’s because I don’t even know anyone that carries a handgun.
Guns don’t simply give you a means to defend yourself, they allow for power fantasies to develop as well as the creation of mental situations where the need to use them seems justified.
So fuck off, Dan. Don’t feed me bullshit and call it filet mignon.
SinghX
Mar. 4th, 2013 at 7:22 am
Tsk…we’re looking at people that have spent way too much of their life watching re-runs of 60′s shows about the fun and foibles of war/cowboys and Indians; that’s why it’s so easy for them to watch Fox; it’s the *Fagow’wee Tribe meets “F” troop. I digress…
“…The NRAssholes in the room heckled Mr. Heslin still deep in his grief.”
Soulless cretins who’s only purpose in life is to play a predatory game of Risk with everyone else’s life. They (NRA-GOP) protect their own; their view is, people like Mr Heslin can just suck it up…like the slaves before the civil war. Mr Heslin is supposed to take “the whip” as a reminder
that the corporate masters own the country! He’s on their turf and he has no say in their rules of how the game is played. Sick bastards.
Reynardine
Mar. 4th, 2013 at 8:12 am
Besides, in a man, grief over a child is so effeminate and weak, isn’t it?
RX7
Mar. 4th, 2013 at 8:45 am
I told my mom that the core US current problems is corporate greed. She replied that the actual one is the moral bankruptcy within the bigwigs. It really makes sense this time. People have to be heartless to trample on others who are helpless and in grief over the losses the latter don’t deserve. No loving parent wants to attend their child’s funeral, and will gladly give their live in exchange.
David
Mar. 4th, 2013 at 8:46 am
Poorly written, poorly argued, and a poor excuse for opinion writing even in the blogosphere. There are so many straw man arguments here…so many outright vicious ad hominem attacks, it’s hard to know where to start one’s response.
So I won’t bother.
I’ll just say that the “writer’s” bias and anger undermine his argument. Calling gun owners like me–someone who’s neither a right winger or an asshole, btw–names does nothing to build alliances or find common ground if anything it leaves reasonable people scratching our heads and asking ourselves: what the fuck was that?
Sorry, but this piece is an epic fail and one of the many reasons reasonable gun owners tend to fear the leftist gun control crowd.
Cheers,
-d-
MC
Mar. 4th, 2013 at 10:24 am
I agree with voting out all republicans in congress; it’s not just the gun thing, it’s everything. What have they done NOT SHIT, BUT OBSTRUCT PROGRESS, why ’cause there’s a black man in the white house.I believe they want a civil war, to try and over throw the government, are they stupid, this is not the 1800′s, there isn’t going to be any movies made about 2000′s american fucking ourselves over..really..get a brain..Boehner,Cantor,Ryan,McConnell go find another country to steal from some poor defenseless natives and start up your own WHITE country (again), only this time build it yourselves, not steal other from their country and force them to serve and be treated like dogs..cause it will come back to bite you in the ass. I will be voting and praying you fellows will not see another term in washington DC..aka..chocolate city..This sounds racist doesn’t it..well I’m tired of being civilized when all the feed back is from uncivilized people who claim they’re not racist..well yeah you are..and just a little FYI to all racist..any and I mean any person of COLOR knows the face of racism and a racist..no matter how SUBTLE..
Craig Felde
Mar. 4th, 2013 at 1:51 pm
My God you people on this site are the most polarized paranoid bunch of schizos I have ever seen. Your rants and posturing are right out of the Ann Coulter playbook. Why can’t any of you try rationally discussing a truly important matter without going into ad hominem hysterics. What a bunch of ill-mannered children. I have decided: No more Left Wing crazy website reading. No more Right Wing crazy website reading. All of you pseudo-intellectuals deserve one thing. We should give you all the guns so you can do the rest of the country a favor and kill each other.
Sherlock
Mar. 4th, 2013 at 4:12 pm
Come on- how many lefty gun wackos do you know?
SinghX
Mar. 4th, 2013 at 4:45 pm
…”you people on this site are the most polarized paranoid bunch of schizos…”
Really? I didn’t hear anyone here saying the little men in their cereal bowl told them to listen to “Ann the Awful” backwards and then, repeating her words so that they come out “leftist”. Really, Craig??
…”Why can’t any of you try rationally discussing a truly important matter without going into ad hominem hysterics.”
This isn’t a question; there is no question mark. And, I suppose your flaming “Donald Duck” rant made sense to you before lobing it over your compound wall…Really? Plus, the fact that you’re avowing to take your ball and go home…you are aren’t you?
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Paws
Mar. 5th, 2013 at 1:37 pm
Just wondering, Craig, where is your reasoned argument regarding gun control at? I had assumed you made a post here and were upset at the level of discourse your post generated, but I don’t see a post from you on this story.
If you want to rationally debate the issue, then do so by putting forth a reasoned argument with evidence if required. Unfortunately, you just attacked right out of the gate, which does give the impression that you cannot – or will not – discuss the issue rationally.
Sherlock
Mar. 4th, 2013 at 4:03 pm
I agree- the right wing nuts are fulfilling their own prophesy — get a gun because there are bad guys out there- how do we know– cause we are the bad guys.
djchefron(Moderator)
Mar. 4th, 2013 at 4:10 pm
The NRA just sign acontract to sponser a sprint race at the Texas Speedway.It will be known as the NRA 500.Whoever televise the race says one thing.They are not paying ATTENTION!!
NRA title sponsor for NASCAR Cup race in Texas
www.chron.com/news/texas/...
Then again they must know their audience NRA/NASCAR
Robert Thornton
Mar. 4th, 2013 at 5:33 pm
Compromise has always been the very quintessence of democracy. Sadly, the major issues facing us leave little room for “grey areas”. Abortion, the struggle between democracy/capitalism and marxist socialism, and the right to bear arms are black and white dogma. Perhaps it is time for us to go our own separate ways. Secession is a better choice than revolution.
djchefron(Moderator)
Mar. 4th, 2013 at 6:22 pm
First you do know you have to really learn that socialism has nothing to do with Marxism and democracy has nothing to do with capitalism.In spite of that lack of knowledge I will give you some advise.Please read before posting.Better to be thought a fool than to post and remove all doubt.
Shiva(Moderator)
Mar. 4th, 2013 at 6:44 pm
He reads the posts at breitbart then runs out full of great data
None of it factual
M.staley
Mar. 4th, 2013 at 6:42 pm
All you central texans be alert…get your guns ready (oh, right, they already are)to fight that war you’re gonna have soon as POTUS comes after your guns!
Shiva(Moderator)
Mar. 4th, 2013 at 6:43 pm
Any day now!
edgre williams
Mar. 4th, 2013 at 7:08 pm
Nice having drones available, so they can be eliminate a lot of them,the rest will run like conferate army.
Inez
Mar. 4th, 2013 at 9:40 pm
What about the non gun owners,,,,,,,,,are we to arm ourselves because the gunuts want a civil war?
Kelly J. Cowan
Mar. 4th, 2013 at 9:57 pm
What we are up against. Make them own the Frankenstein Monster they have created.
Misinformation, Fear, And Hate In America youtu.be/6q6DNm6rrYY
James Threadgill
Mar. 5th, 2013 at 12:13 am
On the bright side, if they actually rebel, we’ll have justification for putting them all in cages where they belong.
Evermore Jones
Mar. 5th, 2013 at 2:19 am
I think that the capping irony of this whole debate is that there are people out there(way out there) arming themselves because they are afraid of us(the people with no guns). Remember, hatred is fear turned inside out. Do you think this is what F.D.R. was referring to when he said “The only thing we have to fear is fear itself.”?
Dennis S
Mar. 5th, 2013 at 3:57 pm
Hello Dan Alter:
In response to “43 times not 43%, I defer to your sharped-eyed recognition of times vs. percentage. It is indeed 43 times more likely.
The original source of the quote was the New England Journal of Medicine. It was from an earlier study that referenced who might be shot if a gun were in the home as opposed to no gun.
As for being peer reviewed data, I assume the efficacy of the data was confirmed by the editors of this distinguished specialty publication.
Thanks for your contribution and correction.
Dennis S.
Anne
Mar. 6th, 2013 at 6:54 am
I have never seen such a group of childish and self-centered adults as the gun nuts. They chafe at the very idea of sensible gun control measures on the grounds that THEY individually are law-abiding. Apparently, it’s lost on them that the proposed laws are designed to protect them and to make it harder for criminals as well as mentally unstable folks to obtain the weapons. Something is very wrong when someone’s gun fetish clouds his or her judgment to the extent that they would actually even think of having a civil war. They seem to think their gun rights are more important than the physical safety of us all.