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Marco Rubio Touts GOP Abortion Platform That Suggests Women Are Not Humans
The holes in the Republican “pro-life” spin are showing.
Today Republican Senator Marco Rubio was on CBS’ Face the Nation attempting to defend the Republican Party’s platform on abortion, in which there is currently no exception in cases of rape, incest or the life of the mother. Rubio touted the party’s “pro-life” stance repeatedly, and claimed Republicans were “protecting the rights of a human being to live”. Rubio’s defense suggests that pregnant women are not human beings, otherwise why are they leaving out life of the mother as an exception?
Even CBS noted via their title that Republicans are on the defense. Their headline reads: “Rubio: Opposing abortion not denying rights.”
Watch a clip here:
Transcript from CBS in italics (goes beyond the clip):
Rubio told “Face the Nation” host Bob Schieffer that for those opposed to abortion, “this is not an issue about denying anyone rights. This is an issue about protecting the rights of a human being to live – irrespective of what stage in development they may be.
There is no way around the fact that the current language of the Republican platform absolutely denies pregnant women rights, including the right to live.
It also denies women the right to chose their destiny, and empowers rapists to chose the mother of their child by forcing women to have a Republican mandated child of a rapist. It also forces a young girl who is molested by a family member to have that family member’s child. Many states grant legal rights of fatherhood to rapists.
This means that the Republican Party’s platform is enabling a rapist to rape. Rape is an act of power and anger; it is an act of control – not an act of passion. Forcing a woman to carry a rapist’s baby gives the rapist even more incentive to rape, since he can then have control over a woman’s life for the next 18 years through their child.
Rubio notes that life will always matter, because our Declaration of Independence delineates the “God-given” right to life, and of course, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.
If Republicans were being intellectually honest, they’d have to explain how this right to life does not apply to pregnant women in their view, and how women’s right to liberty from a rapist’s control is not a right they see for women, let alone the right to pursue happiness (as I doubt death is in most women’s definition of the pursuit of happiness).
While it may not be a top priority for voters, Rubio said, “I think we’re capable of discussing the issue of life in an intellectually honest way that’s true to our principles and at the same time make it very clear to the American people that we understand what it takes to grow the economy.”
May not be a top priority? I can assure Senator Rubio that the lives of women are a top priority to them and to their families.
As for Rubio’s claim that Republicans can be intellectually honest about their principles, they have already proven this to be false on this issue. If they cared about reducing abortions, they wouldn’t criminalize them, as criminalizing abortion does not reduce it, just as criminalizing gun ownership does not reduce the ability of people to get guns.
Right now, women in Texas who can’t get access to abortions are going across the border to unregulated Mexican pharmacies in order to procure an abortion drug called misoprostol, for which they often don’t have instructions. Ironically, due to the fact that abortion is illegal outside the city capital, the pharmacists don’t want to give instructions on the proper dosage of the drug. Without proper instructions, some women hemorrhage after taking the drug. Hemorrhaging can be life threatening and can threaten the woman’s future fertility.(Per the Texas Tribune, “According to the World Health Organization, the recommended dosage of misoprostol, if used alone for an abortion, should be four tablets (800 micrograms) every three hours for a total of three doses, or 12 tablets.”)
Furthermore, if Republicans wanted to reduce abortions, why are they criminalizing some forms of birth control via the personhood amendment that Republican Presidential candidate Mitt Romney supports?
Methods proven to reduce abortions include family planning, birth control, sex education, and empowering women to give birth by removing the obstacles in their way (financial hardship, lack of healthcare for the child, day care, etc.) through programs the Republican Party has been cutting, like WIC and Title X, a federal family planning assistance program. Of course, Republicans have been defunding Planned Parenthood as well, which provides family planning to low income women. Family planning helps to avoid unwanted pregnancies.
As for whether Akin’s remarks could hurt the GOP nationally, Rubio said the election would instead come down to what Romney stands for – a subject Rubio will broach when he delivers a speech at the Republican convention on Thursday.
Oh, goody. Rubio is finally going to tell the nation what Romney stands for. How did they decide? Years ago he was pro-choice and now he’s pro-women’s death by being pro-personhood amendment, which quite literally grants the zygote more rights than the woman carrying it. Republicans don’t think this is a top priority to Americans, but they are still trying to distance themselves publicly from their platform and their record. Since 2010 alone, Republicans have enacted 131 new anti-abortion laws.
Marco Rubio can’t defend the Republican Party’s position on abortion, because they are finally being forced to see their line of reasoning through to the end and it doesn’t hold up. Republicans want to suggest that a zygote has more rights to life than the woman carrying it. This has all kinds of legal ramifications, such as criminalizing miscarriages, as we have already seen in Republican led states.
Republican Todd Akin’s comments about the female body shutting down when “legitimately raped” (by which he later clarified he meant “forcible rape”, as VP candidate Paul Ryan believes) drew attention to the Republican Party’s stance on abortion, but they’ve already been busy legislating it across the nation. The results are predictable – women in jail for having a miscarriage, young women going across the border for dangerous abortion drugs, and an uprising of American women against the Republican Party’s attempt to control our bodies.
Republicans are going to keep telling Americans that this is not a top priority for voters. But when American families discuss this issue, I can’t imagine too many husbands saying yes, if their wife is raped they want her to be forced to carry the rapist’s baby or yes, they want the Republican Party make the decision that their wife should die if she has the bad fortune to have an ectopic pregnancy or a medical condition like diabetes that endangers her life during pregnancy.
I have a hard time imagining the men I know wanting the Republican Party to force their daughters to have the baby of a rapist or a child molester or an abusive boyfriend who added rape to his method of control (a common occurrence, especially when a young girl tires to end the relationship). Rape is often used as a way to manipulate a woman/young girl into staying in a bad situation.
Certainly women across the country are wondering what in the world this group of mostly men thinks they are doing inserting themselves between our doctors, our medical decisions, and our lives. And we are wondering just how Republicans like Rubio can say with a straight face that they are protecting the lives of all humans when they are so obviously legislating our deaths by leaving out exceptions for the life of the mother.
The bottom line is that the Republican Party claims they are pro-life, and this language has successfully defined the party as such and disguised their real agenda. After all, who doesn’t want to be FOR life?
It turns out, however, that the logical conclusion of the Republican Party’s platform is pro-death for women, pro-empowering rapists, and anti-women and children.
Additional Sources: The Rachel Maddow Show
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Shiva (Moderator)
Aug. 26th, 2012 at 1:58 pm
My personal opinion is you can dump the god given rights BS.(not you Sarah). No god gave anyone rights. If he did he would be protecting them. This is all the biggest line of BS I have seen. Where was this god when England had all the rights we do? Did god give most of Europe and Scandinavia the same rights as us? They got them. I am sorry, but you can leave your god out of this. We are on our own. And being on our own, the GOP fundies need soldiers in the future when they control the US. ANd the wars to destroy other religions
I want religion banished from this world so we can have peace AND rights
ShoryoTombo
Aug. 27th, 2012 at 7:45 am
I am with you totally, Shiva! This is pure disgusting! People taking the rights of others in the name of their make believe religion! Religion should be removed from office and this discussion wouldn’t be taking place!
Mark W
Aug. 27th, 2012 at 1:14 pm
The GOP’s stance on abortion is a cynical,evil plan in itself, but it is by no means the end of the road. If a rapist’s act results in a pregnancy, then the Republican pov is that this child has rights that supersede the mother’s. She is reduced (AGAIN) to a chattel – so much for Susan B. Anthony!
Likewise, the rapist is no longer committing a crime against a ‘person’, he is NOW committing (merely) a ‘property crime! From this proposition, it would appear that Mitt and the rest of the ‘backroom buddies’ (Koch bros, etc) behind the Tea Party and the Republican Party are trying to resurrect a form of slavery, where some humans are chattelized into the property of other humans.
While this may seem a stretch now, analysis of these men’s personal actions and methods would seem to bear this goal out. Don’t forget, in their Bible, “MAN was given dominion over all the Earth, and all the beasts and fish it contains”. Not ‘woman’, just MAN – and since that book was first written, there have been some humans that were considered little more than semi-intelligent beasts by others.
Support THIS Republican coterie at your own peril.
gecannonphd
Aug. 26th, 2012 at 2:01 pm
Pro-life and pro-choice have framed the abortion debate for decades, but are outdated emotional typcasting.
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The terms likely were concocted by an early right-wing propagandist, now reincarnated as GOP pollster-focus group guru Dr. Frank Luntz.
Pro-life resonates.
Anyone favoring abortion is condoing murder. Yea, right!!
Pro-choice has a negative connotation. The anti-abortionists use the term to message that a pro-choicer wants a woman to choose to abort for trivial reasons.
George Will said it well this morning on ABC’s Sunday with George Staphan.
Roe v. Wade legalized abortion. That is settled law.
But the pro-lifers have successfully pushed parental consent and bans on late term abortions (very rare).
As a pro-choicer, but also a male, I favor parental consent for girls under legal adult age. If it works, it introduces some responsibility with young girls that ignore commonsense birth control in consensual sex.
But I may be naive on parental consent. Does this requirement force abortions to go underground? Does it disrupt, and destroy, families?
I have an open mind on this and want to listen to opposing positions.
I part company with the right-wing evangelicals, and the Church’s male elite, by supporting family planning and contraception.
Legal adults engage in consensual sex, and there is nothing wrong with that. It has many benefits, in so many ways. But it should be safe.
Again writing as a male, I can’t understand how any female, having consensual sex, should get pregnant if it is not her goal. If she does , it is through ignorance; and because of irrational, irresponsible crusades against family planning, Planned Parenthood, and contraction. Crusades often led by males.
The pro-choicers should work to change the terms of the debate. They should proclaim to be the real pro-lifers; the pro-lifers excelsior .
Brenda
Aug. 26th, 2012 at 3:05 pm
In answer to ur question on abortion choices~there are women who the birth control pill does not work and they are sadly surprised by a pregnancy~this is where the family planning group is very helpful in hat they help the woman come up with a program that will prevent pregnancy~fp also helps women mamograms and pap smears that they can not afford the repubs want people to think all fp does is deal in abortion that is not true~when a girl/woman considers abortion there is alot of info that is given to them to incl possibility of adoption,they are told of programs available to help them raise their child so do not let the hound dog repubs convince u that women just skip into an abortion like getti botox~a large number of those who do choose abortion requ counseling after wards~I just hate that repubs use abortion like it is such a simple black and white matter when it is not~If abortion is out lawed think of the women who finds out after they are pregnant that it can cause her death so she will bring a baby into the world that will have no mother and possibly a dad who will feel resentment towards that baby thru no fault of either of them~~
ibwilliamwsi
Aug. 26th, 2012 at 3:23 pm
gecannonphd, Do the underage girls you are referring to have full sex ed knowledge, or are they being taught abstinence only sex ed? That’s the legal standard in many educational systems and in most private educational programs as well as virtually ALL home schooled children in the USA. So, if these girls have no real knowledge of birth control, how are they supposed to “exercise common sense birth control when engaging in sex”? Not sure if the comment above was yours or Will’s but it’s pie in the sky BS designed to keep people from the critical thinking required to make a fully informed decision, AND ignores the cases of incest, rape, and life of the mother.
You men can argue til the sun don’t shine about incest and rape, pregnant girls and women are the ones left with the decision.
I am speaking as a woman, so I by my very definition am more qualified to speak on this matter than you are. At age 20 I had a pregnancy end in spontaneous abortion (the legal and medical term for a miscarriage) and suffered massive blood loss from which I nearly died. The next time your wife or daughter is uncontrollably hemorrhaging for six solid hours, you’ll have a somewhat knowledgeable opinion as to whether or not she should be so lucky as to go to an ER and have a D&C without the benefit of anesthesia because if she waited for an anesthesiologist she would die. But even that WON’T qualify you to have a valid say in the matter. Then you can hold her hand while she screams in pain and hope to god she doesn’t crush your fingers. And you still won’t have a valid say in the matter. Unless you let her die. Then and only then will you have had your say.
Dii
Aug. 27th, 2012 at 8:24 am
Women get pregnant because contraception fails – this is not rocket science.
Underage consent – what if the father is the father?
If it is your body it is your body regardless of age.
niftywriter
Aug. 27th, 2012 at 10:42 am
gecannonphd, I think you are sincerely trying to get there, but why should there be such an emphasis on young girls? Just an FYI< Can you understand how any male, having consensual sex, could impregnate a young woman un less it was his GOAL?
Victoria Lamb, MSHA
Aug. 26th, 2012 at 2:10 pm
@gecannonphd: You seem to have ignored the issues of rape, incest, and health of the mother. Nice dodge, but of little use to the discussion.
SinghX
Aug. 26th, 2012 at 3:37 pm
There is a disconnect here, a big one. Our problem is that the religious “Bludgeon Club” that has infiltrated our government and is asserting their power and control given by the church, not the people.
First of all, Sara is correct; these men don’t see woman as human, but property or chattel.
Actually, they are depraved “men”; emotionally, they crawl on all four, loyal to their religious self-loathing and all in the name of following the edicts of some immoral book written centuries ago. These “men” are afraid of women; they have to see women as inhuman creatures who’s only existence is to take man’s land and wealth. They’re misogynist and turning women into chattel is something they see as their “manly” duty to the church and god.
Secondly, they disconnect of rape happens by making this about the fertilized egg who has no say in either the rape victim as a parent or the rapist…it’s just a fertilized egg. They consider “it” human but not the woman who bares it–complete disconnect. And the rapist is seen as as just some guy looking for sex; again, disconnected from the fact that rape is about power, not sex. Just like religion isn’t about god; it’s about authority over people via divine right=control and power. They have to disconnect in order to justify their purpose.
1voice1vote
Aug. 26th, 2012 at 3:39 pm
“This is an issue about protecting the rights of a human being to live – irrespective of what stage in development they may be.”
Unless you’re a human in the childbearing stage, plus or minus 40 years of a female’s lifespan. For those 40 years the party of smaller government Teapublicans want to be in charge of your rights.
1voice1vote
Aug. 26th, 2012 at 3:42 pm
edit: For those 40 years the party of smaller government Teapublicans want to be in charge of your right to live.
Sally
Aug. 26th, 2012 at 3:40 pm
“Again writing as a male, I can’t understand how any female, having consensual sex, should get pregnant if it is not her goal. If she does , it is through ignorance; and because of irrational, irresponsible crusades against family planning, Planned Parenthood, and contraction. Crusades often led by males.”
Seriously? Then you have no idea how birth control works. And I bet you never offered to don a condom in your life. I took the pill when we first married, every single day. After a few years, we decided to start a family. I got pregnant the first month, after being off the pill for two weeks. My daughter was born, and I breastfed her exclusively for four months. She never had a bottle. At four months, she started cereal and by five months was using a sippy cup for water and juice. When she was six months old, I was still nursing her and got pregnant for the second time. Our son was born when she was 15 months old. After that, I made my husband wear condoms while we decided what to do. I couldn’t take the pill and nurse, so I got an IUD (which the GOP will ban.) I had IUDs from then on until nearly menopause.
Now, my husband is a chemical engineer and we have always been comfortable, but birth control was never covered by our insurance. So tell me, how can a woman whose husband does not have coverage, and works minimum wage, afford contraception? Those most likely to need family planning are not getting it. That is disgusting.
You kow what I’d teach in HS sex ed? Boys, if you get a girl pregnant, you are responsible for the next 20 years because the GOP may stop abortion at any moment. So keep your pants zipped! Be responsible for your actions. Ever hear that from the GOP? Nope, just women will bear this burden, financially and physically. Forever.
Enjay in E MT
Aug. 26th, 2012 at 4:22 pm
I don’t understand women married to these men.
As a life partner and spouse – is the female value of the relationship only the womb? Did they marry only to have children? When he said “I love your jeans” did they mean “genes”?
Does it make you wonder if your were chosen as “good breeding stock”? Will he really let your children become motherless because of an ectopic pregnancy?
Heaven forbid a rape happens, can a pro-life husband or father, who said NO to the “morning after pill”, love, support, accept and never deny a resulting child for life?
Birth control does fail – and that is when the family comes together to make a decision.
Does the GOP, who profess freedom & personal responsibility, want governemnt to legislate a familys’ private decision? Of course not!
mikeyhatesit
Aug. 26th, 2012 at 4:46 pm
There are plenty of ways to enjoy each other’s company, but those are all sins, and illegal in most states because illiterate legislators don’t know that sodomy actually refers to the worship of other gods; rather than what less-educated dominionist hillbillies think are deviant sex acts that should be outlawed because they don’t result in childbirth.
I’m not being crude for its own sake, but there are proven correlations between the education, income, and religiosity of a person that indicate what sex acts are acceptable to perform. If the GOP platform really does intend to strip women of their rights as human beings, then I don’t think I’m far off when I say a Republican can’t get it up unless he’s committing rape.
Oh, wait- if there’s no consent needed, it isn’t rape. It’s just another day being married to a conservative.
Reynardine
Aug. 26th, 2012 at 5:04 pm
Parental consent? Too often, the parent caused the pregnancy, or allowed another to do so: a son, say, or a brother, or a minister, or a business contact, who is valued more than the girl. Or the parents may be strangely, bizarrely punitiva, like a couple some three decades back, who made an underage girl carry a baby to term and then forced her to throw it off a bridge into the river. You know, to teach her a lesson.
Girls whose parents are trustworthy will generally tell them. If one won’t, then that’s a red flag right there.
DrX
Aug. 26th, 2012 at 6:56 pm
It Makes sense from a purely patriarchal pErspective. The fetus has an ~50% chance Of being male. The mother is 0% male.
Steven Josephson
Aug. 26th, 2012 at 6:59 pm
If the republicans really cared about the unborn children they would give them full rights.
Rights to health care.
Rights to food.
Rights to child care.
Mother’s Prenatal health care.
Mother’s food and medicine for a healthy baby.
Mother’s prenatal health care.
Instead the Paul Ryan GOP Budget makes 60% of its cuts to these.
Just to keep the GOP income tax cuts and Business tax cuts revenue neutral.
THE GOP CARE OF THE UNBORN ENDS COMPLETELY AFTER CHILD BIRTH!
NOR DO THEY ADOPT ENOUGH UNWANTED CHILDREN.
THEY WORRY MORE ABOUT THERE POCKETBOOK.
mediabeing
Aug. 26th, 2012 at 8:34 pm
Mr. Rubio speaks of being honest; having an honest discussion, but he’s not being honest in how he sees the situation. He’s not willing to discuss the matter in cold, reasonable terms. His statements to Schieffer were all emotion/knee jerk packed stuff.
Rubio has decided to remain religion-deluded to the point of ignoring the overpopulation problem, the problem of unwanted pregnancies.
He’s chosen to call life ‘sacred’. It isn’t sacred. It’s precious to many of us, but there’s no sacredness. Religion comforts…and cripples.
Rubio is just riding along on ignorant sentimentality, not true compassion, wisdom or logic.
I once admired and respected Mr. Rubio, but in analyzing his messages, it’s clear he’s just another psychologically crippled drone, repeating a deadly message of complacency and fascism.
majii
Aug. 26th, 2012 at 9:00 pm
Some republicans respond to the idea that women should have access to abortion in the cases of incest and rape by saying that “Murder is murder.” The thinking of these individuals is dangerous. It doesn’t allow for things that can happen to some pregnant women that endanger the life of the mother. Using their logic, one would think that if abortion is murder, one could also call a law that bans all abortions, even in the case where a pregnancy endangers the life of the mother, a government-sanctioned murder. People who take extreme positions on certain issues cause pain to others that they’re often not aware of. I recall reading last year on the Think Progress site about a man and his wife whose state forced the wife to give birth to a stillborn baby. The doctor had told them the baby wouldn’t survive, but the GOP legislators in the state had passed a law banning abortions after 20 weeks–with no exceptions. It tore me up watching the man and his wife relive having to go through watching their child be born dead. No one should have to go through that. What this husband and wife experienced will haunt them for the rest of their lives.
Betty
Aug. 27th, 2012 at 12:48 am
What we are seeing right now is the Christian version of Sharia Law. The motive is the same, male desire to keep control of women. It’s a power thing pure and simple. If you elect these people to office they will shout from the hilltops that you permission to move full speed ahead unhindered and if you think you have seen their full agenda, you are mistaken!
Disgusted!
Aug. 27th, 2012 at 3:27 am
I dont think words can express how horrible i feel about these people being the supposed leaders of our country!!! We are supposed to put trust in them to make good decisions for our country’s well being…this is rediculous. The church has no place in our government…if they want to go preach they can do it at bible school! We are in america…ya know that place that kinda formed that one time from people who were tired of the SAME CRAP we are dealing with today. One religion thinks they are supreme and all hell breaks loose when they try to illegitemize everyone elses. This country wasnt founded on christian morals, the settlers were spiritualists. They believe in God and that he stands for love and peace. I plan to get a medical degree and ill be jailed for all i care
Disgusted!
Aug. 27th, 2012 at 3:29 am
Because i will be sure to provide abortions to all that come to me in need. ^.^
Possummom
Aug. 27th, 2012 at 8:26 am
the gov. needs to stay out of my choices for my own body. i have three girls..i dont want them to have their rights to their own choices taken away too. this is not about right to life. this is about trying to control women. the life of the mother comes before fetus. always. and no one should force a woman to carry a baby she does not want. no matter what her reason. her reasons are no one else’s business.
Dii
Aug. 27th, 2012 at 8:33 am
Yep – looks like Sharia Christianity to me.
So glad to be a New Zealander!
Shana
Aug. 27th, 2012 at 9:28 am
Yeah, the last part of this Rubio stated they know how to grow the economy. And the truth comes out. They’ve murdered too many tax paying people with war to continue to fund their constituants and the lifestyle to which they’ve become accustomed. This has nothing to do with religion and more with their need to repopulate their bottom line.
TigerLily
Aug. 27th, 2012 at 12:39 pm
you said is Shana!
TigerLily
Aug. 27th, 2012 at 12:38 pm
RAPE IS AN ACT OF VIOLENCE PURE AND SIMPLE! where are you RW women now? Your life doesn’t mean shit! But the baby that is not even seen or can talk, walk, feel pain or life itself..is more important. This is supposed to make YOU THINK THEY ARE PRO LIFE? What the hell is wrong with the GOP and its followers? If this doesn’t turn the numbers around on them with women..I ..I ..well I guess all RW women are just plain idjits to let these men dictate their RAPE AND OUTCOME. Wth? The world should be outraged at this pathetic lying denhying Cuban representative. WHO THE HELL VOTES FOR THESE MEN AND THEIR BARBARIC WAYS???? TORTURE..NOW WOMEN SHOULD DIE BE ALLOWED TO BE RAPED..THEIR JUST DOGS ANYWAY RIGHT? to the GOP yes..you are but a MUTT!
TigerLily
Aug. 27th, 2012 at 12:43 pm
I have one question only. Are RW people/women that prejudice and hateful or just plain completely stupid and never really read anything but only what their GOP leaders tell them? Are you not hearing what they’re saying about you? Are you not hearing that they plan to give THE RICH “ONLY” ANY AND ALL TAX BREAKS and women ..well..pray to God (not theirs) that none of them RAPE YOU! Because THEY ARE–RIGHT NOW–INDIRECTLY RAPING ALL WOMEN IN AMERICA –including RW GOP WOMEN! And we’re allowing it…
TigerLily
Aug. 27th, 2012 at 12:45 pm
Romney’s dog SEEMUS will have more rights than a WOMAN BY THE TIME ROMNEY GETS THROUGH WITH US.
Diane Taylor
Aug. 27th, 2012 at 3:59 pm
If being a human means being like these idiots, then I am not a human. I am something better.
Anna McCall
Aug. 28th, 2012 at 1:29 am
*CORRECTIONS, PLEASE*
Re: It also denies women the right to chose their destiny, and empowers rapists to chose the mother of their child by forcing women to have a Republican mandated child of a rapist. It also forces a young girl who is molested by a family member to have that family member’s child. Many states grant legal rights of fatherhood to rapists.
PLEASE NOTE the words “chose” in 1st and 2nd lines of this paragraph should be ‘CHOOSE’ in both cases. Thank you!
Anna McCall
Aug. 28th, 2012 at 1:40 am
It is so interesting that the majority of people so determined to control everything about a woman’s body are MEN! I can’t conceive of anyone with a logical mind, especially a woman, voting for anyone in the TP/GOP.
D. W. Skinner
Aug. 29th, 2012 at 10:17 am
I feed my dog a higher grade of meat than him.