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McCain Admits Republicans Put Grudges Ahead of National Security in Hagel Filibuster
Republicans have offered up a litany of excuses for filibustering former Nebraska Senator Chuck Hagel’s appointment as Defense Secretary, and none of them make a lot of sense. But the award of biggest fail belongs to John McCain. John McCain filibustered Hagel yesterday over Hagel’s criticism of Bush, but in 2008 McCain’s harsh unleashing on Bush left no stone unturned.
Republicans are supposed to be rebranding their party, but instead, they’re busy making history by filibustering a defense secretary nominee. This is the first time the filibuster has been used against a defense secretary nominee (note: Republicans are pretending it wasn’t a filibuster). Perhaps Republicans aren’t concerned about national security after all.
Of the many reasons given for obstructing the Republican nominee, Senator John McCain (R-AZ) offered the most insane. After McCain threatened to block Hagel unless the Obama administration answered his questions about Benghazi (McCain was too busy giving interviews on camera complaining about the lack of information on Benghazi to actually attend one of the briefings on Benghazi), and the Obama administration complied, McCain moved the goal post again. Now he’s holding a grudge over Hagel’s criticism of Bush. Apparently McCain thinks that aligning the party with George W Bush will be helpful.
Yesterday McCain cried to Fox News that Hagel has said mean things about George W Bush and people don’t forget that:
To be honest with you Neil, it goes back to there is a lot of ill will towards Senator Hagel because when he was a Republican, he attacked President Bush mercilessly. At one point said he was the worst President since Herbert Hoover. Said the surge was the worst blunder since the Vietnam War which is nonsense. And was very anti his own party and people. People don’t forget that.
If “people” (aka: Republicans) are as petty as McCain said they are, then that would mean that the Republican Party put their grudges about Bush ahead of national security.
This probably isn’t the best argument McCain could have made for the GOP poutrage vote.
Furthermore, this is the same McCain who told the Washington Times in October of 2008 that he rejected many of Bush’s failed policies, and that he would not be four more years of W. McCain listed Bush’s many failures:
“Spending, the conduct of the war in Iraq for years, growth in the size of government, larger than any time since the Great Society, laying a $10 trillion debt on future generations of America, owing $500 billion to China, obviously, failure to both enforce and modernize the [financial] regulatory agencies that were designed for the 1930s and certainly not for the 21st century, failure to address the issue of climate change seriously,” Mr. McCain said in an interview with The Washington Times aboard his campaign plane en route from New Hampshire to Ohio.
“Those are just some of them,” he said with a laugh, chomping into a peanut butter sandwich as a few campaign aides in his midair office joined in the laughter.
Those are harsh words. McCain spared Bush nothing, raking him over the coals on his out of control spending, his financial regulatory agency failures, his $10 trillion debt, and of course, “(T)he conduct of the war in Iraq for years”, accused the man who now claims that criticizing the surge is a reason Hagel should not be nominated. Americans await McCain voting against himself, should he be nominated for anything, because people don’t forget.
41 Republicans voted against Hagel’s nomination to head the Pentagon, but he did get 4 votes from Republicans, giving him close the number he needs to overcome a Republican filibuster (essentially 59, he needs 60).
McCain admitted that Hagel is likely to be confirmed after recess, which sounded exactly like it reads: After Republicans get over their preschool recess pout, they will concede that — SIGH — having someone running the Pentagon is probably a decent idea. However, they will have achieved their goal of undermining Hagel and Obama in the eyes of the world, since Hagel will miss a defense ministers’ meeting in Brussels next week. Republicans must be pleased to force America’s defense secretary out of the NATO conference. This is coming from the party that made security at Benghazi an issue. They’d better hope nothing happens unitl they come back from recess. USA! USA! USA!
We can only hope that the rest of the world understands that Republicans are a minority insurgent party that doesn’t represent most Americans, and thus their lack of support is indicative of nothing other than their hurt feelings that they lost yet another national election. Hagel, after all, represents a stark rebuke of the modern day Republican Party. Hagel called out the Iraq debacle at the time, and although he supported McCain’s 2000 run, by 2008 he had drifted to the center (also known as away from crazy).
McCain’s latest excuse is just another reactionary hit, aimed at the messenger instead of the problem. Hagel’s criticisms were valid, and the neo cons will never forgive him for being right. The Republican Senators’ temper tantrum over Hagel should be recalled the next time a Republican tries to suggest that the problem in DC is that Obama won’t work with them.
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Neil
Feb. 15th, 2013 at 12:50 pm
Well Hagel had at least one thing wrong.W was the worst American president ever.McCain is a senile old bastard who should be removed from office,The damage this man has caused and is causing is immeasureable.
Tony Gramps
Feb. 18th, 2013 at 9:30 am
I stumbled on this site through soem article about Hagel. and I have read some of the comments. Wow you guys are upset ,because you say the Republicans are all these things. You all should step back a moment and read your comments. From past experience that won’t happen, instead I will get a lot of insults thrown my way from people who would not have the courage to say in my face. There are people in all idea groups that are insane with some of their thoughts. However truly making a better place can only be done when real freedom of the pursuit of happiness is realized and not a narrow road.
djchefron(Moderator)
Feb. 18th, 2013 at 9:35 am
So I see you support McCarthyite tactics.
Kimbutgar
Feb. 15th, 2013 at 12:57 pm
We can all thank the American people for not electing him in 2008. This mean old vindictive prick would have destroyed this country in ways I don’t even want to imagine. All the stuff that the right says President Obama would do mccain would have doubled down and we would be involved in WW3 against Iran, Russia and China. The man is definitely suffering from dementia and should have not be re-elected. He got lucky JD Hayworth was his opponent in the primary and that the Democratic candidate was weak.
j
Feb. 15th, 2013 at 1:07 pm
And to think that once McConnell said that Chuck Hagel was the most trusted figure in DC on matters of National Security and John McCain had previously said how Hagel would be perfect for defense secretary
Ithat was when McCain was running for pres)
McCain is now so bitter and twisted he does not know what he has said and changes by the day.
JJM
Feb. 15th, 2013 at 1:23 pm
t was clever of Obama to nominate a Republican just so the world could witness what happens when a party of egomaniacs goes bad: it becomes a pack of cannibals, eating their own.
So telling was this remark today by John McCain: “He was anti-his own party and people — people don’t forget that.”
bluerose
Feb. 15th, 2013 at 2:26 pm
exactly what i thought. President Obama made a very smart move, he wanted to let the Republicans show there true colours to the public, had the POTUS nominated a Democrat he/she will be torn to shreds by those rePIGs, the bait is set for 2014.
djchefron(Moderator)
Feb. 15th, 2013 at 1:37 pm
Where to begin.First the rethuglican party,as the party for national defense,that meme is dead.Kaput.No mas.
The Armed Services committee was once a be partisan committee that put our National security first.Party differences didn’t factor in major decisions.They may have been ideological differences but when it came down what was in the nations interest that was the only thing that mattered.Now like our economic security the rethugs just don’t care.
During the hearings instead of questions on the budget,strategy,troop levels,what did we get?
Questions about do you kiss Israeli ass till it turns blue.What some newspaper said in Iran.The dim witted senator from New Hampshire not understanding that triad means three in our nuclear strategy.To put the icing on the cake sen.chickenhawk cruz questioning Hagels patriotism.Nevermind that Hagel volunteered for Vietnam and left his blood over there.Where was Cruz?He didnt served his country I do know that.
The ringleader himself John McCain talking,no,heckling him about what he said about Iraq and the surge.Fuck me but what does that have to do about the job of Sec. of Defense?
The gop are clowns.The people on the committee dont havent a clue much less the intelligence to be on that committee.
I end with this.I dont blame the rethugs.They are what they are.I blame Harry Reid.We told him to do filibuster reform.We told him that they couldnt be trusted.We told him they are stupid.We told him,we told we told him.So what did harry do?”We have a handshake agreement to be more understanding of our duties”
EXCUUUUUUUSE MEEEEEEE.WHAT PART OF THEY CANT BE TRUSTED YOU DONT UNDERSTAND!!!!!
After Tuesday’s vote, Sen. Levin adjourned the session, saying, “We thank you all, and we look forward to another wonderful year together.” The other senators laughed, but it really wasn’t funny.
Thats all you need to know
Shiva(Moderator)
Feb. 15th, 2013 at 1:41 pm
We remember too McCain. Its too bad there are so few rill muricans in Arizona, you would not still be in congress
ibwilliamsi
Feb. 15th, 2013 at 1:50 pm
How long until Crazypants McCain walks this one back?
djchefron(Moderator)
Feb. 15th, 2013 at 1:57 pm
When they come back from recess.He said they were going to have a vote then.Never Mind the upcoming Nato summit discussing Afghanistan next week that Hagel need to be at.BTW can someone explain why they are going on vacation with the sequester coming up?
While Rome burns they fiddle.
Sally
Feb. 15th, 2013 at 3:09 pm
Oh, goolleee, it’s President’s Day weekend. And, since they are only working 150 days in the entire YEAR of 2013, I guess one four day weekend is as good as another. And since the GOP is only worried about the sequester in case it makes them look bad, they are in no hurry to fix that either. Bunch of rotten spoiled bratty rich white guys. Can we please vote most of them out in 2014? Pretty please???
Dave M
Feb. 15th, 2013 at 3:21 pm
Once again Republicans have chosen party over country. How many more times does this have to happen before voters are aware of the complete moral bankruptcy of the Republican party?
djchefron(Moderator)
Feb. 15th, 2013 at 3:41 pm
Unfortunately for us that live in reality the rethugs reside in states that the voters are dumber than they are.There are a few that comes from blue states and those are the ones we need to concentrate on.Kirk of Illinois come to mind.I dont care if he does have a brain tumor or whatever that made him sick.No compassion.No sympathy.TRHOW HIS BUM ASS OUT
Mary Keogh
Feb. 15th, 2013 at 3:40 pm
When you lie as much as McCain does, you should have a better memory. He forgets that his interviews are taped.
djchefron(Moderator)
Feb. 15th, 2013 at 4:09 pm
Apparently while sticking up for dumbya he forgot how he and turdblossom spread those rumors about his adopted daughter.So grumpy old man is the worst,a ballwasher who washes the balls of people who lied about him.Fuck him
RT
Feb. 15th, 2013 at 4:39 pm
At least McCain decided to be honest–for once. And I hope a building falls on him.
Bradley Thomas Horton
Feb. 15th, 2013 at 6:23 pm
McCain is the most senile man…. I have proof…. Sarah Palin
labman57
Feb. 15th, 2013 at 8:58 pm
GOP — Greed, Obstructionism, and Pettiness
snarky
Feb. 15th, 2013 at 9:13 pm
i have also thought, that guys like mcslam dont hold enlisted men such as hagel was, in any esteem… could also be a component, though you do have many chickenhawks in the GOP who think they know more than guys who saw their buddys bodys blown apart… unlike mcslam who dropped bombs from the sky, hagel was in the shit….
and if these old slugs arent the poster boys for term limits i dont know what is… 2 terms and out.
Shiva(Moderator)
Feb. 15th, 2013 at 9:22 pm
2 terms or less in some cases.
Anne
Feb. 15th, 2013 at 10:04 pm
John McCain is an angry, bitter old man who is still bogged down emotionally in 2008, when President Obama soundly defeated him. His grudge against Chuck Hagel is based on the latter’s criticism of the war in Iraq but is also in large part driven by bitterness over his loss in 2008. The more I have seen of him, the more and more I am convinced that his “hero” status is a big myth. He is a mean-spirited, bitter, petty old man who needs to retire from politics altogether.
fedded-up
Feb. 16th, 2013 at 1:22 am
There’s always a real problem when someone tries to be something they are not – they are trying so hard they can’t remember every danged little detail about either what they’ve already said and done and what they’re supposed to be saying and doing and what they need to say or do tomorrow….phewwww….
MOST people, i.e., those who are nothing more or less than just themselves, don’t have any problem figuring these things out – they filter the information through the moral compass built from a lifetime of experience and teachings and the answers are, usually, right there. McCain, I believe, is operating on nothing more than the image he has spent so much time developing – the obvious holes are getting bigger and bigger and bigger. The glaringly monstrous decisions he’s been making for years tell me beyond any words he could possibly spew that he has been and is morally bankrupt.
No one with an ounce of common sense would have contemplated for a nanosecond nominating that incredibly stupid Alaskan bimbo for national office of ANY kind, let alone one heartbeat away from the presidency. Yegods. Find me a genuine war hero, find me a hero of ANY kind who could do THAT to his/her country. Unfortunately, I would guess that just about 100% of any and all genuine war heroes that ever self-identified as Republican has either left in disgust or been forced out long ago. The possession of an inner moral compass is not compatible with modern Republicanism.
Beaglemom
Feb. 16th, 2013 at 10:16 am
I think the key to this matter is that John McCain is NOT a war hero, not by any standards, and he knows it. He has made a career from making a mockery of real courage. Perfect GOP senator.
Jim Smith
Feb. 16th, 2013 at 5:09 pm
Talk to some of his navy wingmates…
Fred R.
Feb. 16th, 2013 at 12:27 pm
This article is typical Lib. crap,full of lies.
The truth is,Hagel is not in any way the man for the job.
He is another incompetant boob bent on destroying America.
And,the American people want the truth behind the bull we have been handed by Mr.Obama and his incompetant buddies.
Nice that a few folks in Congress will stand up to the Administration and demand the truth.
The President works for us,not the other way around.
djchefron(Moderator)
Feb. 16th, 2013 at 12:32 pm
Exactly what truth do you want from Senator Hagel?
fedded-up
Feb. 16th, 2013 at 1:53 pm
*snort* You’re not really expecting an answer, are you?? Fred’s just another person who feels the extreme need to troll – sorta like squirting stink juice and running for the hills, i.e., your typical morally bankrupt Republican exhibiting their usual lack of conscience, lack of manners, lack of social grace, and lack of courage of any kind.
Alright, that was a bit harsh. True, but harsh.
Shiva(Moderator)
Feb. 17th, 2013 at 6:03 pm
Really? Romney reversed his positions day after day. Was he not right for the job? Bush wanted Cheney to be his friend, so he went to war with Iraq. Does that make him wrong for the job? John McCains ego wouldnt let him say what the cover up was about. So is he wrong for the job?