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A NM Teen Shoots 5, including 3 Kids, while GOP Senator Say Gun Safety Not a Major Issue
On the same day it was reported that a New Mexico teenager shot and killed 5 people including 3 children, Republican Sen. John Barrasso said on CNN that gun safety isn’t a ‘major issue.’
Transcript from CNN State of the Union:
CROWLEY: So, what big things? What big thing is going to get done?
BARRASSO: Specifically, have to deal with the debt, we’re at $16 trillion. You want to continue with the social safety net: the good, the bad and the ugly parts of that, you have to have a vibrant economy. You have to have growth of the economy. But I need to see policies that will actually do that. We don’t see them now.
CROWLEY: I spoke with David Plouffe in the segment before this. And he said that he is confident that there are enough votes in the House. And there are there requisite 60 votes in the Senate to pass universal background checks for gun owners and limiting the clips, those high- capacity magazine clips that I can fire of so many rounds to 10 and under. Do you think that’s so? Do you think congress would pass a ban on those clips with ten or over and a universal background check is that going to happen?
BARRASSO: No, I don’t think it will. And Candy, that gets beside the major issues this face American families which are jobs and the economy…
Meanwhile, it was reported today a New Mexico teen shot and killed 2 adults and children in a house outside of Albuquerque late Saturday night local time. Details are still being put together, but have authorities said that, “Each victim had been shot multiple times. Several guns were found inside the home, including a “military-style” rifle he said had been used in the crime.”
This disconnect between these two events demonstrates just how far out of touch with reality, some Republicans are on the issue of guns. While Barrasso was repeating his rehash of Mitt Romney’s failed talking point that the only thing the American people care about is the economy, three more children were killed in a mass shooting.
Sen. Barrasso is in for some bad news if he thinks this issue is going to blow over. Republicans can cling to their NRA talking points, but the mood of the country is the polar opposite of where the NRA is at. Republicans have been out of touch with rest of the country for years, but their opposition to common sense gun reforms could be the straw that breaks the camel’s back.
Whether the question is fair or not, Republicans are going to soon start being asked, how many children are going to have to die before you take this issue seriously?
(Editor’s Note: This story has been updated to clarify the time of the shootings.)
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28 Responses to A NM Teen Shoots 5, including 3 Kids, while GOP Senator Say Gun Safety Not a Major Issue
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idic5
Jan. 20th, 2013 at 5:16 pm
when (what day and time ) did this happen? was it on jan 20 the date of the article? this s/b made clearer.
Lori
Jan. 20th, 2013 at 7:39 pm
www.huffingtonpost.com/20...
djchefron
Jan. 20th, 2013 at 5:19 pm
We know the gop and some dummycrats have their marching orders from the NRA so deflection of the issue is par for the course.But the next time they bring up the debt I wish the talking heads would inform the troglodytes that the debt will be 3%of GDP and going down.Then ask them why they are hell bent on practicing economic terrorism by not passing a jobs bill that put real Americans to work.
Beaglemom
Jan. 20th, 2013 at 5:20 pm
I’m willing to ask it of our new Congressman. We got re-gerrymandered from Dave Camp (R-MI, Chair of House Ways and Means) to relative newcomer, Dr. Dan Benishek (R-MI) whose bill to have an area post office named for someone was passed during the last term. Wow! In addition to voting non-stop against anything that might have helped the country, “Dr. Dan,” as he likes to be known, voted his Tea Party allegiance. I plan to ask him in my next email “how many children are going to have to die before you take this issue seriously.” It’s the ultimate question for the GOP members of Congress and they should be asked it often and loudly.
Nefer
Jan. 20th, 2013 at 6:56 pm
I am in Benishek’s district also, Beaglemom, and I loathe him. A doctor whose ads featured hapless patients and he wants to destroy Medicare. And every other view he has is despicable. He voted against Sandy aid also.
Anne
Jan. 20th, 2013 at 5:21 pm
There have been numerous gun-related fatalities in this country since the Newtown massacre. The self-deception and denial that Congressional members like Sen. Barrasso are immersed in do nothing to alter the fact that sensible gun control legislation is overdue. It takes a special kind of callousness along with the self-deception to pretend that something major doesn’t need to be done to greatly reduce the gun-related violence. It makes a mockery of any pro-life claims that folks like him might make. Not even learning that children have gotten killed seems to register with this kind of mindset.
johnbrown
Jan. 20th, 2013 at 6:01 pm
do you guys remember the wild west? that period in american history lasted over 90 years and people were getting shot right and left. since then, crime rates (in particular, gun fatality rates) have plummeted through the floor. unfortunately, people get shot every day. that is not a testament to how bad guns are, it is a testament to how bad some people are. don’t take away our guns. take away the bad people who use them.
Shiva
Jan. 20th, 2013 at 6:04 pm
Who is taking your guns away?
majii
Jan. 20th, 2013 at 9:30 pm
Shiva,
It just has to be that old imaginary Gun Fairy, because most sane Americans know that neither the president, nor any democrat in Congress, has ever said that the government plans to confiscate anyone’s guns. I’ve begun to look at RWers who repeat this lie the same way I looked at the ones who were sure that Romney had a “lock” on the presidential election. These folks are still living in their alternate universe. This is the only reason I can think of that would explain why anyone would adopt and repeat a lie over and over again.
Anne
Jan. 20th, 2013 at 6:10 pm
We don’t live in the era of the Wild West anymore, so observing the Second Amendment has to be in the context of the world we live in now. It’s about balancing gun rights with the right of everyone to be safe, whether we own guns or not. There seems to be a romanticizing of that era which is not helpful to solving the problem of so many gun-related fatalities in the 21st century.
UncaJoe
Jan. 20th, 2013 at 6:55 pm
Most historians regard the “Wild West” to be the period between 1865 and 1890, 25 years, and was not nearly as violent as Hollywood has portrayed it.
According to The Culture of Violence in the American West: Myth versus Reality most violence by far was directed at the plains Indian tribes for the purpose of railway expansion. Slaughtering many and enslaving the rest.
Shiva
Jan. 20th, 2013 at 7:06 pm
More about the violence of the wild west, the gun shooters and Texas. A very enjoyable read
www.historynet.com/2012-w...
djchefron
Jan. 20th, 2013 at 7:41 pm
I was going to post something similar but I thought whats the point.How can you reason with someone who gets his history from john wayne.Plus it was a long PDF study and I didnt want his head exploding.
majii
Jan. 20th, 2013 at 9:37 pm
I’m a retired high school American History teacher. I believe in facts and in the real history of our nation. Americans need to spend more time reading and researching issues, rather than repeating fantasy versions of our history that are largely Hollywood filmmakers’ view of what life in the “Wild West” was like. The real history of the “WW” reveals an entirely different story than the one you’re peddling here:
“Pioneer publications show Old West leaders repeatedly arguing in favor of gun control. City leaders in the old cattle towns knew from experience what some Americans today don’t want to believe: a town which allows easy access to guns invites trouble.”
“What these cow town leaders saw intimately in their day-to-day association with guns is that more guns in more places caused not greater safety, but greater death in an already dangerous wilderness. By the 1880s many in the west were fed up with gun violence. Gun control, they contended, was absolutely essential, and the remedy advocated usually was usually no less than a total ban on pistol-packing.”
majii
Jan. 20th, 2013 at 9:42 pm
Continued-facts about gun control in the “WW”-
“The editor of the Black Hills Daily Times of Dakota Territory in 1884, called the idea of carrying firearms into the city a “dangerous practice,” not only to others, but to the packer himself. He emphasized his point with the headline, “Perforated by His Own Pistol.”
The editor of the Montana’s Yellowstone Journal acknowledged four years earlier that Americans have “the right to bear arms,” but he contended that guns have to be regulated. As for cowboys carrying pistols, a dispatch from Laramie’s Northwest Stock Journal in 1884, reported, “We see many cowboys fitting up for the spring and summer work. They all seem to think it absolutely necessary to have a revolver. Of all foolish notions this is the most absurd.”
“Cowboy president Theodore Roosevelt recalled with approval that as a Dakota Territory ranch owner, his town, at the least, allowed “no shooting in the streets.” The editor of that town’s newspaper, The Bad Lands Cow Boy of Medora, demanded that gun control be even tighter than that, however. Like leaders in Miles City and many other cow towns, he wanted to see guns banned entirely within the city limits. A.T. Packard in August 1885 called “packing a gun” a “senseless custom,” and noted about a month later that “As a protection, it is terribly useless.”
“Old West cattlemen themselves also saw the need for gun control. By 1882, a Texas cattle raising association had banned six-shooters from the cowboy’s belt. “In almost every section of the West murders are on the increase, and cowmen are too often the principals in the encounters,” concurred a dispatch from the Texas Live Stock Journal dated June 5, 1884. “The six-shooter loaded with deadly cartridges is a dangerous companion for any man, especially if he should unfortunately be primed with whiskey. Cattlemen should unite in aiding the enforcement of the law against carrying of deadly weapons.”
www.ndsu…
PSzymeczek
Jan. 22nd, 2013 at 1:39 pm
In the “Wild West,” people with guns were required to turn them in to the local sheriff/marshal while they were in town, and only got them back when they left.
Lisa Hunter
Jan. 20th, 2013 at 5:24 pm
Yes, this happened today 1/20
Disillusioned
Jan. 20th, 2013 at 5:40 pm
Nothing sensible ever comes from a government reaction.
peterjkraus
Jan. 20th, 2013 at 7:22 pm
Not if the government is being run by Republicans like W, who inherited a budget surplus and turned it into a series of huge budget deficits in the eight years allowed him.
majii
Jan. 20th, 2013 at 10:00 pm
Not even the Bush tax cuts, Medicare Part D, or the invasion of Iraq that many on the right celebrated? These were done by the government. Are you saying these weren’t sensible? If that’s what you mean, I agree, because these are some of the measures that led to our huge deficit.
Reynardine
Jan. 20th, 2013 at 6:27 pm
Oh, Hell, Barasso comes from Wyoming. Why should he care if New Mexican kids get murdered?
Charlie
Jan. 20th, 2013 at 6:49 pm
Apparently,children lives are expendable in order to honor the second amendment,go ahead,keep your guns,but pray that your own children are not among the expendable.
Everything has a price, and if we have to pay for the second amendment with our children,so be it.
I actually have no children.
majii
Jan. 20th, 2013 at 10:08 pm
Correct, Charlie, in a sane world where politicians were courageous enough to kick the NRA and other special interest groups to the curb, but not in the good old USA where the NRA and lobbying groups have a stranglehold on many of our national and state lawmakers. It will continue to confound me how a man like Barrasso can say he’s anti-abortion, and at the same time, say there should be no regulations on any type of gun–right after 20 precious, innocent kids were assassinated at school last month. IMO, if one is pro-life, it should apply not just to fetuses but to everyone on the planet–human, animal, and plant, except in the case of plants and animals, those necessary to sustain life.
Reynardine
Jan. 21st, 2013 at 12:12 pm
The shooter evidently planned to go to a nearby mall and stage a massacre, but someone talked him into going to his father’bs church, first.
I note he was home schooled. If he had had so much as a visiting teacher, his decompensation might have been noticed in time.
Shiva(Moderator)
Jan. 21st, 2013 at 12:44 pm
The Congress and Senate of the United States is directed to deal with all problems in this country in one way or another. They do not have the right to say they will only deal with a couple.
TigerLily
Jan. 21st, 2013 at 3:02 pm
Until this happens to one of their owm–it won’t and doesn’t matter to them. And even then..the way these people think on the right …well, like they said they want their guns. Is there a an amendment to put kids first?
djchefron(Moderator)
Jan. 21st, 2013 at 7:29 pm
Care to elaborate
PSzymeczek
Jan. 22nd, 2013 at 1:42 pm
He killed his parents, a brother, and two of his sisters.