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Dominionist Ties to Norway Terrorist Clear and Convincing
Writing about the Dominionist reach in America is challenging – let alone referencing acts on foreign soil such as the Norway slaughter. We are seeing the spin by those like Laura Ingraham and her FOX cohorts in their attempt to make this an anti-Islam terrorist act rather than admit that it has ties to radical Dominionism with its feet firmly planted in the Christian Bible by the bible-based cult of Dominionism.
Not only do we have pure ignorance reporting on this tragedy, but we have purists who want to lambaste us for calling this what it is – a Dominionist influenced psychotic killing spree. I will tell you that we do not randomly point fingers at every atrocious incident that occurs crying, “Dominionist!”, “Dominionist!”. My researcher, Alex, and I both grew in up Dominionist households. We have lived with this theology fed to us over the course of our lives. We both watched it infest conservative politics and gain a stranglehold on one of the two major political Parties in America. We have researched this separately and then together for the past several years with hours upon hours of discussion with each other and outside consultations with scholared experts.
The outcome has been to coin this push for theocracy in a way that people can grasp by using the umbrella term “Dominionism”. When we do this, and as our work attracts higher visibility, we get pushback. Not just from the Dominionists themselves, but by those who insist on semantic purity and spend time diverting the conversation into arguments about how ‘Dominionism’ can or cannot be used. We don’t have time for this.
With the expressed encouragement of the ‘experts’, we decided years ago to use a single identifying term that we could make a “brand” of the collective efforts by divergent religious groups who all seek to take “dominion” over secular institutions and society in their quest to establish a theocratic government rooted in biblical law. It is working. Even 4 years ago if you Googled Dominionism no more the a few pages would appear. Today there are 1,580,000 results. THAT is progress! And it has taken the efforts of many of us to generate this branding.
With that said, I will share with you a response that Alex wrote to an email that I received criticizing us for improperly applying the term “Dominionism”….
I’ve discussed it before, and will gently remind again: We are using “dominionism” as “dominionism sensu ‘Christian Nationalist’”–which is the definition that the anti-dominionist research community (as opposed to theological communities) use and have used since 2005, and includes not only promoters of “Kingdom Now Theology” (now most recently having renamed itself the New Apostolic Reformation) but Christian Reconstructionism, ultramontaine Catholicism with tendencies towards religious nationalism (such as Opus Dei), and other “Bible-based” groups that claim the “Dominion Mandate” to conquer the earth (per Genesis 1:26-28).
This is broader than the general use in stricter apologetics circles (who have generally restricted the use to postmillenial-dispensationalist groups descendant from Manifest Sons of God theology) but there is even an understanding in apologetics circles researching Christian-nationalist movements that the three major branches of these movements cross-pollinate to such an extent (and on a worldwide basis) that it may be no longer functionally useful to “split hairs” (in particular, the NAR and Christian Reconstructionism have extensively cross-fertilised, NAR theology is increasingly being recognised as being quasi-premillenial or “conditionally premillenial” in practice in many neopentecostal denominations, and a fair amount of cross-fertilisation has occurred between ultramontaine Catholicism and NAR-linked groups starting with the “pro-life” movement and expanding into other spheres–most recently and notably with anti-Moslem and anti-LGBT hate speech).
This has been the general use of the term for the past seven years or so, since there has been a cohesive modern anti-dominionist movement (at most, proposals have been made to differentiate theological dominionism–that tied with a specific denominational creed mandating dominion over earthly spheres of government–and “political dominionism”, that is, organisations operating primarily on a political-activism level (such as Family Research Council, American Family Association, and the like).
The term has been used for some seven-odd years to refer to Christian Reconstructionists, to NAR promoters, to political groups part of the “Religious Right” (in fact, the term “dominionism” was chosen from their own terminology in an attempt to get *away* from the term “Religious Right” waaaay back in 2004-ish), to ultramontaine Catholics (one of the major research forums on dominionism, Talk to Action, has a researcher who primarily focuses on ultramontaine Catholicism and IRD-linked “steeplejacking” groups trying to turn mainline Christian denominations dominionist–and yes, he does use the term “dominionism” in the sense “dominionism ‘sensu Christian Nationalist’” for this).
Even one of the primary researchers on dominionism in apologetics circles (Sarah Leslie of Discernment Ministries, a conservative, evangelical, *anti-dominionist* org) has noted the “premillenial/postmillenial” distinction is no longer functionally useful, and she has come out in favour of a broader definition of dominionism (similar to that in use by secular researchers) that largely defines dominionism by the use of the “dominion mandate” and use of coercive tactics within the congregation.
In this case, you will probably just have to accept that we–and the vast majority of the anti-dominionist research community–accept a broader definition of dominionism that covers all Christian-nationalist groups that use some form of the “dominion mandate” to justify taking over earthly governments (whether it be strictly from Genesis, from an interpretation of “Word-Faith Theology” (which is actually a fairly common NAR permutation), because of belief they are regents of Christ (not uncommon in Christian Reconstructionist groups), because a critical mass of countries must be converted (another common NAR “conditional premillenialism” permutation), and so on.
This definition, of note, does *not* include secular writers opposed to Islamism (as it is, I’m opposed to ANY form of religious nationalism or extremism, and find once one strips away the “holy book covering” they tend to have the same “core of coercion” underneath.
That said–there has been an ongoing conspiracy theory that has had its home in dominionist circles (and I’ve witnessed its evolution over the years) that Islam is somehow a Communist plot, or that the Soviets and Moslems are being guided together by a third puppetmaster, or that the UN is a Soviet plot or part of a Moslem conspiracy. (This, actually, is one of the things that jumped out at me when watching the “manifesto video”–I’m quite familiar with various flavours of conspiracy theories popular in the far-right and racist-right (being raised in an NAR-linked anti-LGBT hate group, and starting in my teens being very active in anti-fascist and anti-racist groups)…the particular conspiracy theory he goes on about is one that is pretty exclusive to American dominionist groups (particularly American dominionist groups heavily influenced by the John Birch Society or “end of the world” theology promoted by Hal Lindsay and Tim LaHaye–I even heard the specific “Soviets and Moslems set up the UN as a plot and will work together to destroy Israel” thing in the NAR church I grew up in, and in my experience THAT particular variant of the “UN conspiracy theory” *is* a pretty exclusive one to American dominionists).
The “Knights Templar” influence I honestly think he may have gotten from one of two sources–either racist ultramontaine Catholic groups (these do unfortunately exist)…or, more likely, he may have borrowed the concept from the Freemasons and used the “Crusader” ideology often promoted by dominionists (and usually these ARE dominionists, rather than secularists). There are different branches or “rites” of Freemasonry, and some of the European rites do play rather heavily on Knights Templar imagery which he likely found attractive to begin with (being an association of Christian knight-militant fighting Moslems in the Holy Land).
In the PZ Myers article (and in the manifesto), the differentiation between “secular Jews” and observant Jews *also* stands out to me; there is but one Christian group I have found an identical differentiation which has been used as the basis of demonisation of one and tolerance (if not outright idolisation) of the other…dominionists tied with the NAR and “Christian ZIonist” groups outside of the NAR proper. (Usually “Bible-based” groups tend to be accepting of all of Judaism including non-observant Jews or members of liberal denominations of Judaism such as Reform or Restoration Judaism, or they tend to be broadly anti-Semitic.
The only ones that really differentiate at all that I’ve ever seen are Christian Zionist groups that consider observant Jews to be essentially an end-time pawn and secular and non-Orthodox Jews to be “apostate” at best and servants of the Devil at worst…and the state of Israel itself, which does not consider Jewish conversion to be legitimate unless it is through an Orthodox synagogue (which is because you have a lot of Orthodox Jews, particularly Haredim and Hasidim which constitute a powerful political lobby preventing allowing other Jewish denominations the right to be legally accepted as Jewish (and hence eligible for the Right of Return) unless they convert to Orthodox Judaism).
The instructions on what to do for a martyrdom operation also remind me of material I am personally familiar with–the Army of God domestic terrorism manual, which includes a section on martyrdom operations recommended for “termites” (their term for monkeywrenchers and domestic terrorists) who have a terminal disease or otherwise wish to go on a suicide mission–there is similar emphasis on religious preparation (less the Eucharist–the Eucharist is not seen as terribly important in NAR churches in the US from where the Army of God primarily operates, but are of much more importance in European churches, even NAR churches).
I also have seen some striking similarities between laws proposed by the shooter (and noted in the PZ Myers article) and explicit proposals for bans on birth control, abortion, women’s education and sex education proposed by “Quiverfull” groups (this is a dominionist activist movement promoting having as many children as possible to grow up to be future “God Warriors”) and particularly by ultramontaine Catholic groups. (In the US, the bogus claim that “The Pill” and other hormonal contraception are abortifacients are usually included, but there is a strong push to pretty much restrict women to the home and intensive childrearing.)
I hope this makes it clear as to why – in the case of the Norway killer – we are very comfortable referring to the myriad of ideological influences that drove this killer’s actions as – DOMINIONIST.
In regards to dominionist linkages to the bloody slaughter in Norway, here are our findings so far:
a) In particular, with a video manifesto (which has been linked on Youtube until it was pulled there, and which has since shown up on Liveleak) the shooter makes some very specific references that show he has familiarity with, and probably shares terminology with (if not overtly sharing intel with) “Christian patriot” militia groups in the US (including material that has been posted on racist and far-right-wing forums in the US, use of particular catch phrases associated with the “Christian Patriot” movement in the US, and others). I’ve just spent nine hours typing up an extensive analysis of the video; he is clearly connected with religious-nationalist groups in Europe and in the US. The degree of references to material originating in the US, in fact, indicate he has been in somewhat regular contact with anti-Muslim racists in the “Christian Patriot” movement in the US, rather than obtaining racialist material from racist groups elsewhere in the world.
b) One thing that stands out (if one is unaware of racialist movements in Europe)–most racist activity in Europe so far has been from “odinists” and “Satanists” in the black-metal community (and are largely doing it in a pattern of occasionally bloody attention-whoredom) or from blatantly neo-Nazi groups. A group or person claiming a “Conservative Christian” basis for this, especially in Europe, stands out like a sore thumb; generally (unlike the US) there has not been a tradition of “racist right” churches like Christian Identity that claim to be “Bible-based”.
c) One thing that stands out in the killer’s videos and writings is a certain obsession with the Knights Templar, the Third Crusade, and the idea of setting up what amount to European “Christian Patriot militias” (often using the very same terminology, of note, as “Christian patriot” groups associated with dominionism and the racist right use in the US) to foment a revolution in the same way as planned by “Christian Patriot militias” here in the US.
d) In particular, the killer is a known guest writer on the site “Jihad Watch”, which has had very close linkage with Dominionist groups (including NAR groups). Jihad Watch is sufficiently infamous (and sufficiently tied to Dominionist activity, particularly among the NAR) that it is one of those groups that Southern Poverty Law Center keeps a very careful watch on (and is on verge of listing it formally as a hate site), and writers to that site almost inevitably have ties to NAR groups.
e) There is a known NAR movement in Norway, which is similar in extremism to the US and which has known linkage to NAR extremists in the US, particularly in C. Peter Wagner’s network (in particular, Jan Torp who has known linkage to Sarah Palin via the Wagner NAR network among others); Norway, a relatively religiously conservative country, has been aggressively targeted by the NAR in an effort to establish a bench-head in Scandinavia. (Of note–Wagner’s lineage of NARasites is the most closely connected to the “racist right” along with Christian Reconstructionists; there is clear evidence that Christian Identity groups and NAR groups have traded theological terminology related to domestic terrorism as recently as the late 1980s and early 1990s.) I wrote about Torp’s connection to Sarah Palin at God’s Own Party? in November 2008.
It is important to recognize that C. Peter Wagner who we are speaking of is one of the main endorsers of Governor Rick Perry’s “The Response” event in Houston.
f) No less than two other researchers have independently confirmed and made the connection that the murder is likely to have been a dominionist (sensu Christian Nationalist, which is the sense we have used and will be using in our writing). Bill Berkowitz and–notably–Christian Reconstructionism expert Chip Berlet have explicitly noted that the killer is a “Christian nationalist”.
Berlet has even noted (and I have noted to an extent as well) that his writings indicate he has been at least influenced by ultramontaine Catholicism even though he is supposedly a Protestant, that he has been apparently influenced by noted Dominionist Paul Weyrich, and explicitly notes likely American Dominionist influences in the killer’s writing. (Of note, he also seems to be directly influenced by writers for Accuracy in Academia, a “political Dominionist” group pushing for censorship of higher-education curricula; links where the specific term “Cultural Marxism” (a new euphemism for what was referred to as “Secular Humanism” in the 1980s, and is apparently a slur directed towards secular multicultural societies) has been used particularly by Holocaust-revisionist groups connected with “Christian Patriot” militias.
g) Much of the news on the shooting (particularly the links with “Christian nationalist” theology) are in fact coming from non-US sources; some of my initial sources of info were from Norwegian/English bilingual persons who were translating reports from aftenposten.no in live time on a news forum (when most of the news was primarily available from Norwegian-language sources).
So far, the best sources have STILL been foreign media (which speaks much on how the US media is no longer aggressive at investigation): the Australian Broadcasting Company has been a surprisingly good source of info.
We do ourselves and no one else any favor by arguing semantics. My position is and has been that ‘dominion’ is a word in the English dictionary and it means “to control; to dominate”. That is precisely what these dangerous religious zealots are seeking and achieving here in America and across the globe. None of this is new. While they have essentially used Third World countries as their Petri dishes to practice and grow their efforts before bringing it to our shores…we have been dozing off and are about to be caught unaware if we do not have an awakening.
We understand why those who, even unwittingly, have joined forces with Dominionists (i.e. those who still think that being a conservative is about fiscal policies). They are as clueless about the Dominionist Movement as the rest of us. Random events – such as the upcoming Rick Perry Dominionist gathering in Houston, Texas on August 6th are seen as individual occurrences. A ‘Sarah Palin’ is seen as a self-aggrandizing, narcissistic anomaly. But, one of the most harmful time-consumers of getting this message out is to have to respond to and convince those who are seeking the same end that we are in this effort – the separation of church and state. There is no time for hair-splitting. While we argue semantics we lose precious time to educate.
I thank those who have reached out to me over the years who are truly “experts”. The researchers (like Alex); the theologians like Dr. Anthea Butler of the University of Pennsylvania; Sarah Leslie who is a noted author on Discernment Ministries; Elizabeth Sholes, Publis Policy Director of the California Council of Churches and many more – all giving me their blessing to carry the message of Dominionism in American politics forward in my own voice – under the single term – DOMINIONISM.
People are beginning to listen.
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Sarah Jones
Jul. 24th, 2011 at 5:07 pm
Absolutely chilling, Leah.
Hrafnkell Haraldsson
Jul. 24th, 2011 at 5:34 pm
Literally. I got the chills reading it. It’s not a surprise, but it’s a sobering reminder of what we here in America are facing, and whom we are surrounded by – well-armed militia groups who rival the ancient Jewish zealots in their hatred of the world around them.
Shiva (Moderator)
Jul. 24th, 2011 at 5:41 pm
We cant forget that the KKK and skinheads all have groups in Europe. There is no reason to assume they do not communicate
fromthediagonal
Jul. 24th, 2011 at 6:40 pm
… agreed…
fromthediagonal
Jul. 24th, 2011 at 6:44 pm
… what frightens me is that the well-armed militias are ever-growing… fueled by racism and a a fear of becoming marginalized by an increasingly common tolerance of the differences of “being who we are”…
Shiva (Moderator)
Jul. 24th, 2011 at 5:27 pm
I note the term christian patriots, the term that the tea party gives to themselves. I wonder if this isnt indoctrination of a very mild manner which may get stronger in time. Lets face it, most people in the tea party have no idea whats behind them.
I think here, “Conservative Christian” means political christian but with no flavor at all except to thionk they stand for something right wing but arnt sure what it is, where as in Europe its totally different in a violent manner as you point out
Proving that there is no difference between muslim and christian extremists. Neither is really all that religious except for using religion for power and gain of ideological points
These people are scary
fromthediagonal
Jul. 24th, 2011 at 6:39 pm
shiva… of course, these people are scary, as are extremists of all persuasions.
Leah Burton
Jul. 24th, 2011 at 7:07 pm
“No flavor” is spot on! But what makes this increasingly confusing is that mainstream Christians mistakenly rise to the defense of these Dominionists by falling into the traps that they set knowing full well that by self-identifying as Christian, they will be protected by people who would never sanction their true beliefs.
Just because the numerous “franchises” (as Bruce Wilson referred to them)or sects of Dominionism ascribe to varying scripture-twisted versions of a religion that they anchor in the Christian Bible – it does not mean that they are Christians.
So to speak out about this as we do. To write about this and devote ourselves to exposing the inherent dangers of Dominionism here and abroad – we become targets by Dominionists and mainstream Christians alike for “attacking Christianity”; or accused of being anti-religion; and sometimes just simply for being “the wrong kind of Christian”. There is little room for winning in this environment, but we are trying.
Some of the most hateful and frightening death threats and hate mail that I have received are from those who literally sign their correspondence “Christian Patriots”. They are devout, indoctrinated and dead serious.
Snooze Hamilton
Jul. 24th, 2011 at 8:01 pm
“But what makes this increasingly confusing is that mainstream Christians mistakenly rise to the defense of these Dominionists by falling into the traps that they set knowing full well that by self-identifying as Christian, they will be protected by people who would never sanction their true beliefs.”
This. Moderate/Liberal/Normal Christians are slowly figuring out that the extremists are not their spiritual brothers. Opposing DomNAM power-grabbing is NOT a Religion vs Religion thing; it’s a Sane vs Crazy thing. Non-Christians who are ready to declare war on all Christians across the board alienate the same people who would be a flavor of ally because they then
see us as the greater of the two evils.
A Walkaway
Jul. 24th, 2011 at 8:09 pm
Hi, Leah!
People, they don’t just make threats, they follow through. There are many cases (and I suspect like ours, many more that are possibly mentioned by those they attacked, but not dealt with by “authorities”) where the dominionists have harmed the people they consider enemies. Indeed, those who experience dominionist retaliation/violence are quite lucky if their case is investigated.
Here is just one example, admittedly not the most recent: web.archive.org/web/20050...
More recently: www.militaryreligiousfree...
There are others.
They are opposed to freedom of speech, freedom of the press, freedom of association, just about any freedom that you cherish, if your speech/writings/associates aren’t “approved”, they want them banned.
If you speak out or write against them, you are likely to suffer (as we and many others have). However, if you do NOT, they win.
Sarah Jones
Jul. 24th, 2011 at 8:13 pm
I can attest to this on behalf of many people who write about these issues. The harassment and death threats are off of the charts. Luckily, these folks are dedicated and not going to be intimidated by anyone.
Cathy
Jul. 24th, 2011 at 9:17 pm
Another great explanation. Thank you again, Leah. I applaud your efforts and fully support the term dominionists. I consider myself a Christian and try to correct and spread the word every chance I get that these people are NOT Christians. Very scary!!
kfreed
Jul. 25th, 2011 at 9:13 am
It seems to me that the Christian Reconstruction (Dominionist) movement is an explicitly political one. As they’ve seen fit to inject their twisted religion into politics and government, they can no longer claim sanctuary. The “attacking Christianity” claim, intended to deflect scrutiny, does not wash. We attack their politics as they have, by their own actions, made themselves fair game.
Ed
Jul. 25th, 2011 at 12:51 am
The definition of “Conservative Christian” in this country the United States is inaccurate. It is just as violent, or has the potential to be, as it is in Europe.
Reynardine
Jul. 24th, 2011 at 6:07 pm
In fact, of what has gotten into the English- language press (and I have gone afield into the BBC, the Guardian, the Calcutta Telegraph, and the English-language broadcasts of Al Jazeera, Deutsche Welle, and France 24), far too much smells far too American. Unlike Sweden, Norway did not have a strong “Aryanist” movement – I’d guess a few years of Quisling immunized them a little- and Christian Dominionist movements using the kind of reasoning and language here were rare. And where did Anders Breivik get all that money to buy a farm and tons and tons of fertilizer, when all his prior ventures failed him miserably? Though, God wot, I don’t have it, large sums of money smell American, and that goes triple for large sums of violent Christian money (somewhere, smoke is coming out of Jesus’s ears). I think he was grubstaked from here. I think poor, peaceful Norway is being used as a rat lab to see how far an open, peaceful, charitable society can be pushed in the “right” direction by targeted violence. And, as our press, that overfed, muzzled watchdog that doesn’t bark in the night, distracts us with Charlie Sheen, Lindsey Lohan, and cute little ducklings, I suspect that the successfully poisoned petri dish is going to be brought right through our kitchen door.
Leah Burton
Jul. 24th, 2011 at 6:58 pm
The money trail is becoming synonymous with Dominionist funding sources. People would not be so quick to push back against what we are telling here if they only, truly, grasped the atrocious contributions American Dominionists have made worldwide for many, many years…and I am not just talking about their influence in the “Kill the Gays” garbage in Uganda that has direct ties.
If we understood this, the leap would be a slam dunk in understanding the connections to Breivik. It took Alex and I moments to draw those lines.
Reynardine
Jul. 24th, 2011 at 8:27 pm
Can you enlist a forensic accountant?
kfreed
Jul. 25th, 2011 at 9:30 am
You know, I’m no expert on Dominionism, but I’ve been researching the topic night and day since I fist stumbled upon an old Chip Berlet article posted at Smirking Chimp, which coincidently happened to coincide with the rise of the Tea Party. (Research stemming from that Berlet article is what brought me to this website to begin with.) Moreover, I had seen Keith Olbermann’s Blackwater “Christian Crusade” expose on YouTube and have read extensively about the militant NAR groups here in the US. It took me less than a minute to connect the Norway incidents with militant Dominionist propaganda. Seems to me that those who are now arguing minutia should known better. You’re absolutely right – there’s no time to herd cats. For once in their lives, liberals should focus on the big picture here. You all have been trying to warn us for years… it’s high time people started paying attention.
Leah L Burton
Jul. 25th, 2011 at 11:05 am
Herding cats is exactly what this feels like at times. I appreciate your dedication to understanding Dominionism and to hear that we must be making some kind of sense in our efforts to write about such a frightening and complex issue. Thank you for your insight and support.
Dominionists do rely on the infighting by liberals/progressives to give them shadow.
Reynardine
Jul. 25th, 2011 at 2:44 pm
As someone with a feline armada, I say: If you want to herd cats, open a can of sardines. We just need to find out what works on liberals.
Ingarose
Jul. 24th, 2011 at 10:02 pm
Yes, there is so much going on right now which should be important, like the debt ceiling, the massacre in Norway,the high unemployment amidst sky high profits for corporations etc. Yet, other than here what is the media talking about? I was channel surfing at 6pm CAl time and this is what I was being presented. MSNBC “Why planes crash”, CNN “Pierce Morgan interviewing some guy who talked about Charlie Sheen. Fox “Hannity interviewing Jeb Bush about something, HLN Dr. Drew (imagining sex with Bristol Palin.). Sorry, my take. Dr. Drew fell all over himself trying to turn Bristol into an angel and Levi into a devil. So, I finally had enough and commented here.
Is it any wonder that a lot of people have not the slightest idea what is going on?
Reynardine
Jul. 24th, 2011 at 6:13 pm
Nota bene: I haven’t referred to stochastic terrorism because that implies the atmosphere was simply bombarded with hate radiation until fission occurred in the brain of a random, unknown nut. I am by no means certain this man was random or unknown, especially not with the sums involved.
honestyingov
Jul. 24th, 2011 at 6:15 pm
Alternet had a story this morning which showed a connection to Tea Party heavyweight Tim Phillips. ( Funded by the Koch Bros )Phillips spoke at one of their Political rallys.A direct connection to the Tea Party.
P2b picked up my Tweet. RT if you want to.
twitter.com/#!/P2Blogs/status/95236524903378944
@P2Blogs
RT @HnstyNgov: “Koch-Funded Tea Party Heavyweight Tim Phillips Spoke at Norweigan Killer’s Political Party Event… bit.ly/nEjzgY
One sent to 2 reporters at the NYT is getting many RT’s as well.
twitter.com/#!/HnstyNgov/status/95241479135563777
Sarah Jones
Jul. 24th, 2011 at 6:17 pm
Great links as always Honesty. Thank you! Everyone should follow you on Twitter.
Shiva (Moderator)
Jul. 24th, 2011 at 6:18 pm
Good call. Retweeted
Eykis
Jul. 24th, 2011 at 6:20 pm
Great article, Leah. Your information is always educational to me and I am always inclined to do research after reading your articles.
These people are actually mentally ill….particularly those in the USA who cannot think past their own noses and believe whatever is spewed from whatever “church” they attend.
I see and hear this daily in Nashville….home of the Southern Baptist Convention…which has lost much power and much money to these American Evangeliban dominionists.
Again, thank you, and thanks to Alex as well.
I often wonder is these “devotees” actually know what they are listening to and people like GoodHair Secessionist and Snowbilly Grifter along with CrazeeChele, are not helpful. They are simply hypocrites out for their own power and the almighty dollar(s).
Shiva (Moderator)
Jul. 24th, 2011 at 6:23 pm
I often wonder what the turnover rate is of peolle Like Leah who got out. The normal usual foot soldier types. The people at the top stay in for the power
Leah Burton
Jul. 24th, 2011 at 6:48 pm
An interesting and encouraging side to the work that we have been doing is the number of “walkaways” like Alex and myself who are finding our site. There are literally tens of thousands of us who have pushed away from this bible-based cult. Interestingly, many walkaways often see themselves as alone and in a small minority. They are not. The discussion is reflected in a recent Pew Poll…
blog.christianitytoday.co...
These extremists have done more to turn followers away from Christianity than all the other fears they have combined in their erroneous claims that decline is attributed to the evil influence of (pick one) gays, Atheists, secular public schools, etc.
And the more this gets out – the greater the walkaway population will reveal itself. Like Alex and I, we have lived this insanity and their voices will be very welcome as an addition to this effort.
Ed
Jul. 25th, 2011 at 1:32 am
I was a walkaway from a lone wolf dominionist cult called the Boston Church of Christ (joined 1987, left 1989). It was a lone wolf because they believed their church and the denomination it spawned, the International Churches of Christ, was the only true Christian Church in the World. And even then they were certifiably power-hungry and convinced they would conquer the world through evangelism.
A Walkaway
Jul. 25th, 2011 at 10:51 am
I had run-ins with one of the offshoots in Florida in the late 70′s. They used “Missionary dating” and other nefarious techniques to try to get people into that cult, and it drove a lot of us crazy because the young ladies were QUITE attractive, but their beliefs and game-playing turned us all off (it only worked on people who hadn’t observed them for a while – and when they opened their mouths they often undid all of their own efforts). BTW, they also had handsome young men going after the ‘available’ young women on campus/in the dorms. It caused a lot of despair because most of us couldn’t ‘match up’ to them.
The pentecostal groups were more subtle – and that’s how they hooked me. They actually let a relationship progress (and kept their religious views to themselves) until they had you in their church – and then sent the bait elsewhere while keeping you with false promises. (The ICC group – you joined the church and THEN the relationship could progress and they were rather open about it.)
I’m pretty certain the ICC is considered to be under the umbrella of dominionism. They certainly fit the mold as far as coercion and control.
Leah Burton
Jul. 24th, 2011 at 6:53 pm
That is enormously encouraging! If I can inspire people to read more, research more on their own then I am doing something right. I intentionally avoid the writing styles of academics, journalists and social scientists. I strive, intentionally, to raise this conversation in understandable and colloquial style.
Many have done amazing papers and articles on this topic, but they are generally relegated to the shelves of those who are members of the proverbial choir. My goal is to bring this to the street.
Given that you are in the backyard of the Dominionist SBCers, I have no doubt that you have added motivation to learn more…I just hope that others are checking this stuff out as well. Thank you!
Reynardine
Jul. 25th, 2011 at 9:35 am
Mentally ill… or ducking fumb? A small mind is easier to lose.
momly
Jul. 24th, 2011 at 6:22 pm
Thank you for that final line in red. I appreciate the distinctions you have lined out.
Leah Burton
Jul. 24th, 2011 at 6:39 pm
I am glad that you apprecited the last line. It is so important for us to understand that these are faux Christians and that we not paint mainstream Christians with the same broad brush that many do to mainstream Muslims due to the vile acts of the faux Muslim terrorists.
This is a global battle between two sects that believe they are divinely empowered and superior to all others. Each one willing to exterminate the “evildoers” whose definition is exclusive to their definition.
One of the most powerful advocates that we can embrace in this is the educating of mainstream Christians to recognize that these extremists are not members of their flock.
Cathy
Jul. 24th, 2011 at 9:22 pm
Thank you again!
CW in LA
Jul. 24th, 2011 at 6:27 pm
At what point will we need to worry about other countries bombing and invading us because we’re harboring and exporting terrorism?
Reynardine
Jul. 24th, 2011 at 7:01 pm
Take your pick: (1) 2016; (2) 2012; (3) a week from Wednesday.
ch
Jul. 24th, 2011 at 6:53 pm
A cross-cultural linkage may exist between Dominionism and Randian Objectivism with the latter possibly deployed as a mechanism or a tool. Need to think about this for a bit. “Dominion – ism” is a new political term for me and I have degrees in the field. Thanks for an interesting article.
Sarah Jones
Jul. 24th, 2011 at 7:05 pm
Interesting- ALEC and CNP seem to show some of those ties, I agree. Definitely use the Randian and Dominionist followers as tools of implementation – but which party is having their ultimate end goal served or comes first over the other? That is what I don’t get.
Leah Burton
Jul. 24th, 2011 at 7:15 pm
Indeed, and this is precisely why I titled my upcoming book, “God, Guns & Greed: A Dangerous Vision for America”. The cross-pollination is rampant and Dominionism is the only umbrella term that aptly describes the all out goal to dominate and subdue – whether for religious reasons, corporate or fear and paranoia leading to secessionist anti-government rhetoric.
They embrace each other to grow the population of votes they need to achieve their individual agendas that – for now – suit each other. Stopping this will prevent us from having to witness and endure how this will play out depending on who gets to the top of the mountain first.
Shiva (Moderator)
Jul. 24th, 2011 at 7:29 pm
Leah would you have any idea of what the turnover is of the lower elements involved? The day to day common people in these groups as compared to the leaderships of these groups? People like yourself who leave? This must kind of scare the leadership in a way
A Walkaway
Jul. 25th, 2011 at 12:26 am
I don’t know about numbers, but I can tell you that a lot of people go from one dominionist church to another, desperately seeking answers and better treatment, while not “leaving God” (which is how being a walkaway is defined). Some have to take that route (“Leaving God”), and some (like myself) learn that what they’d been taught about Christianity and reality was pure bullsh*t and found that walking didn’t mean “leaving God”, but it did mean leaving old ways of thinking and abandoning lies. (Some say that in leaving, they FOUND God. I like that.)
The things I’ve seen and the stories I’ve heard do say that their behavior is almost desperate… I’d never thought of it as fear-based but that does make sense of the crazy things they’ve done to the people they consider enemies.
kfreed
Jul. 25th, 2011 at 10:02 am
In attempting to expalin the notion of “Biblical Capitalism” I’ve described it alternately as ‘fusion of the worst aspectes of capitalism with the worst aspects of religion’ or as ‘Ayn Rand meets Moses on the freeway’ (hat tip to Chris Hedges). It seems to get the point across.
Ed
Jul. 25th, 2011 at 1:39 am
Most interesting! The Dominionists’ prosperity teachings certainly do dovetail nicely with Objectivism.
kfreed
Jul. 25th, 2011 at 10:10 am
Same thing in differnt wrappers. One dresses up in free market ideology, the other dresses up in church vestments.
Reynardine
Jul. 24th, 2011 at 7:21 pm
Actually, the Randy Friedmanists began funding and empowering the Dominionists as political tools as long ago as 1978. If you can get hold of a copy of Holy Terror! by Flo Conway and Jim Siegelman, published in the early Eighties, you will find it both descriptive and prophetic: the only pieces not yet in place were the Murdoch empire and the gutting of the Fairness Doctrine. The question is whether the Dominionists will accept their place to keep the masses “stupid, docile, and slow-witted” (thank you, Himmler), or whether the tail will begin to wag the dog and demand to inflict “stuporstition” on even the ruling classes, in which case we will not even command the respect due a technologically- advanced tyranny.
kfreed
Jul. 25th, 2011 at 10:13 am
I think an illustrative example of the “tail wagging the dog” would be the debt ceiling standoff currently playing out in Washington. We’ll see what pans out.
Reynardine
Jul. 24th, 2011 at 7:33 pm
Breivik is said to have begun his planning nine years ago… contemporaneously with the Bushification of America and the run- up to the invasion of Iraq.
Leah Burton
Jul. 24th, 2011 at 11:38 pm
As a former lobbyist in Alaska on social issues including protection of children from abuse/abandonment/neglect, domestic violence victim advocacy and welfare reform I have considerable exposure to the world of politics. I was also raised in a conservative household that is 4 generations long in Alaska.
Having said all that – I have never believed in conspiracy (as I am so often accused) primarily because most of them would not be able to restrain themselves from bragging and taking credit for what they have done.
BUT – with the infamous letter that Bush wrote to the French President about “Gog and Magog” in 2003 it IS evidence that this wild biblically based fantasy could well have played into this world view.
Fear and paranoia are strong aphrodisiacs to these lost Sheeples. Sad though it may be, it is a danger to the rest of us.
And by the way…given the implementation of their agendas on SO many levels…it ceases to be a “theory” when we are watching it unfold before our very eyes.
kfreed
Jul. 25th, 2011 at 10:25 am
Well said. After much deliberation on the topic, I began to see the Bush policies and consequent economic and foreign affairs disaters in a whole new light. The “Gog and Magog” thing struck me as highly relevant and provided deeper insight into the mindset of Bush for brains.
Upon leaving office, Bush quipped that it “would take years before anyone figured out what went down in the Oval Office.” We are beginning to get an idea- and it is becoming increasingly more evident that the Dominionist contingent had much to do with both national and foreign policy under Bush (which goes a long way toward explaining how a nitwit like him became president in the first place).
Celia Harrison
Jul. 24th, 2011 at 11:40 pm
Thank you Leah, your excellent article clarifies some questions I had after reading the manifesto and watching the video. This guy seems very delusional and paranoid, I would not be surprised to find out he is a paranoid schizophrenic. Of course he also has the characteristics of Dr. Altemeyer’s RWAs (which is basically a psychopath)and we know from history they blindly do horrible things for their authoritarian figures and agendas.
Leah Burton
Jul. 24th, 2011 at 11:58 pm
Celia…I am SO glad that you mentioned Robert (Bob) Altemeyer’s book “The Authoritarians”. Is is truly a MUST READ! He makes it available for free in his quest to get this out to the public. Here is the link…
home.cc.umanitoba.ca/~alt...
Please make even a $5 donation to him for this gift he is providing us and all the hard work he has done. As an author I understand the investment of time and money that goes into writing, and those of us who are activists and coming from a place of authenticity…we aren’t doing it for the money but we still need to pay for associated costs.
This is an important contribution to understanding those who are complicit with the Dominionists even though they may not come from a position of religious belief. They are inextricably intertwined.
Sarah Jones
Jul. 25th, 2011 at 12:15 am
Great book that I sent to everyone I know!
Pat
Jul. 27th, 2011 at 6:03 pm
Thanks for the link to Altemeyer. That is a great book and I have forwarded the link on to friends.
MG
Jul. 25th, 2011 at 2:18 am
Excellent stuff. I’ve been following the extreme Christian right in this country for years but have not paid much attention to Europe. Thank you for making these connections for us.
Rev Charles Curtiss
Jul. 25th, 2011 at 6:15 am
I have LONG preached and taught that this mentality and “theology” is perverse and twisted. A complete distortion of Biblical truth and carnal to the core. Those in the Christian community who seek to take over governments and society as a whole do not understand, believe, or embrace the Word of God in truth. Interesting article. I agree very much with your thoughts relative to “Dominionism.” As the pastor of a GLBT Affirming church in Dallas, I am not considered to be part of the “mainstream.” So be it. The church today is so perverse and misguided in it’s thinking that I prefer to stay on the fringe. God bless.
kfreed
Jul. 25th, 2011 at 10:37 am
Thank you for posting this. I’ve stumbled upon Clergy Voice and Sojourners during the course of my research and truly believe that dedicated individuals within mainstream religion, such as yourself, are crucial to turning the worm, so to speak. Though you may not be considerded “mainsteam” in fundamentalist Christendom, you’re mainstream to sane Americans who happen to occupy a strong majority.
Janet
Jul. 25th, 2011 at 5:17 pm
Bless you and your church. I am always looking for signs that this is a fight that’s not doomed to fail. Knowing that you and yours exist and are speaking out right in the heart of Rick Perry’s Texas makes my whole day.
Denny Smith
Jul. 25th, 2011 at 8:59 am
No surprises here. But I’m wondering: is the term “Dominionist” the same as the term “theocrat”? Don’t they both wan’t the same thing?
If not, what is the actual difference between these two terms?
I ask this because in discussions with friends, they seem to think “Dominionist” is a re-branding effort for “theocracy.” Are they correct?
Thanks….Denny
A Walkaway
Jul. 25th, 2011 at 8:13 pm
Dominionists are working to bring about theocracy. I’m not so sure I would call them synonymous, but the end goals are the same.
The guiding thing is that they believe they have to take “Dominion” over the world, usually starting locally (even in other churches, organizations, businesses, etc.) and working toward a larger scale.
John Bovay
Jul. 25th, 2011 at 9:19 am
Hmm…
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karenkristin
Jul. 25th, 2011 at 9:56 am
Leah, Thank you for your efforts in promoting awareness of the Dominion outlook. I’ve been concerned with Sarah Palin’s influence, but never took time to fully understand the skewed tea party philosophy. I’m not well versed on the subject, but the violence in Norway has motivated me to learn, having Norwegian background. Hard to imagine “good” coming from that violence, but perhaps it will make others take notice as well.
Janet
Jul. 25th, 2011 at 5:12 pm
Thank you so much for your dedication to a subject that’s been scaring me to death for some time now. I’ve felt — and been made to feel — like a crackpot for openly speculating that if there is a devil in the form of the anti- Christ who is hell-bent upon bringing on Armageddon, his most brilliant move of all would be the co-opting of a segment of Christianity. What perfect cover! Real Christians would feel obligated to defend the indefensible in Christ’s name, under the dangerously misguided notion that they were speaking out for their brothers and sisters in faith. And a growing community of equally zealous and exteme atheists who mock and ridicule all faith as belief in the “sky fairy” is only driving people who self-identify as Christians closer together without any examination of each others’ true beliefs and intentions. This ism a witches’ brew. I don’t care what you call it. I sensed it long before I’d ever heard the term “Dominionist.” The time for dismissing and laughing off these people as crazy, irrelevant cranks is past, just as the time for academic hair-splitting is over. I hope we wake up before it’s too late. “
Leah Burton
Jul. 26th, 2011 at 7:22 pm
I could not say it better myself! Very well put…
I often say that the one thing that I am “anti” is extremism itself. Period. Whether religious or political – extremism is dangerous. I can tell you that these people are devout, focused and persistent. We ignore them at our own peril.
Denny Smith
Jul. 25th, 2011 at 5:17 pm
Just saw Andrew Sullivan describe “Christianism”, an almost verbatim rendition of “Dominionism”. Add in the “Theocrats”, and I believe our message is being severely diluted.
I think all 3 definitions are arriving in the same place. I hope
Dominionist wins the race, if only cuz’ Leah works so darn hard.
Leah Burton
Jul. 26th, 2011 at 7:26 pm
Thank you for your confidence! WE are working to make Dominionist a brand for this insanity because it is beginning to stick and resonate with people. The other terms you mentioned confuse people who think that we are bashing Christians and the one thing we know without a doubt – Dominionists are NOT Christians.
Andrew is SO close – as are many in the media like Rachel Maddow, Randi Rhodes, Lawrence O’Donnell and more. They come within a glancing blow of putting this all together. Now they need to be informed that this is a cohesive and well-organized Movement. We are definitely making progress!
Blaine
Jul. 28th, 2011 at 5:52 pm
I have some trouble designating Breivik as a Dominionist. He’s stated in his manifesto that he is only a “cultural” Christian– which is usually shorthand for “I don’t really believe in God, but I’ll say I do anyway.” His writing makes few explicit references to God, and his writing is essentially devoid of any biblical quotes. Think about that for a second. When’s the last time you’ve seen a “Christian fundamentalist” or “Dominionist” go more than two sentences without spouting fifty KJV quotes? (Or call for a new Papal Empire for that matter?) His motivation is not biblical at all; it’s drawn from this romantic image of the West as the Christianized bastion of honor and glory. It is certainly religious in tone and resonates with Dominionist ideas, but overall he seems much more concerned with ideas of cultural heritage than any overtly theological issues.