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Obama Brands Romney with Well Earned Dishonesty Stamp
By: Sarah JonesOct. 6th, 2012more from Sarah Jones
Remember that study Romney cited in Denver’s presidential debate, the one that backed his claim that Obama would be raising taxes on middle class people? Romney said the American Enterprise Institute (AEI) was “non-partisan and independent”, but Dick Cheney is on its board and Newt Gingrich is a fellow. Furthermore, it’s chaired by Kevin Rollins, a partner at Bain Capital while Romney was running the company. AEI is widely known as right-leaning.
Obama came out with a new TV ad Saturday, addressing the fundamental problem of Romney’s dishonesty. Watch here:
Voiceover:
“This was dishonest.”
Mitt Romney:
“I’m not in favor of a $5 trillion tax cut.”
Voiceover:
“Romney’s being dishonest here too:”
Voiceover from Romney ad:
“According to an Independent, non-partisan study, Barack Obama and the liberals will raise taxes on the middle class…”
Voiceover
“The Chairman of that so-called independent group is from Romney’s former company. Dick Cheney’s on its board. Newt Gingrich was there too. It’s not independent. It’s just not true.”
The chairman of AIE was a partner at Bain Capital. Their stated goals are “expanding liberty, increasing individual opportunity and strengthening free enterprise.” While they are stocked with high profile Republicans, AIE would lose their 501(c)3 status were they to declare a partisan purpose. Dick Cheney is on the board — who can forget his sound fiscal advice, when he told us, “Deficits don’t matter” as Bush told us to “Go shopping”. This is what Mitt Romney calls “non-partisan”.
Romney obviously needed fuel against the non-partisan Tax Policy Center’s assessment of his tax plan, but to call AIE non-partisan would be as if Obama cited an organization with Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid on the board, run by Move On, and called it non-partisan. The Tax Policy Center is staffed with people who served in both administrations from both parties, and Romney himself once lauded it as “non-partisan”. The Washington Post rates Romney’s ad as Three Pinocchios, “the Romney campaign really pushes the envelope to claim the AEI study shows that Obama “will raise taxes on the middle class.” That’s not what the study says — by a long shot.”
So, no. No independent organizations concur with Romney’s claim. It’s just Mitt being Mitt again; misleading, misdirecting, misrepresenting the truth. And the real issue is that he’s not over-simplifying a hard to understand concept; he’s distorting reality. The AIE study took great pains to find a way to accuse the President of raising taxes. They finally figured out that if they call the rising debt taxes, they hit the jackpot. However, the Washington Post explains that the deficit exploded under Bush and yet he did not “raise taxes.”
Romney won’t explain his tax plan. Worse yet, he just ran away from it in the debate, but it’s still up on his website. Independent analysts have repeatedly tried to run the numbers for Romney’s plan, and the only way it can be revenue neutral is if he raises taxes (or cuts loopholes, deductions and exemptions) for the middle class.
Romney’s vagueness pays off, though, because when Democrats attempt to brand him with this fact, the fact-checkers say, well, we don’t know what he would do because he won’t tell us, so you can’t accuse him of this. This leaves Obama having to explain in a 30 second ad all of Romney’s various claims and the best guess scenarios of analysts.
For claiming Romney wants to give the rich a tax cut, for example, the Washington Post gives Obama One Pinocchio, writing, “in this battle of campaign ads, the Obama campaign comes out ahead because it accurately describes the Tax Policy Center study as posing an either-or proposition — raising taxes or boosting the deficit. But it goes too far in claiming that Romney would give the wealthy huge new tax breaks, when he insists that is not the case — and the head of the Tax Policy Center says the study has been misinterpreted. The Obama ad earns One Pinocchio.”
But Romney has also said that he would give the wealthy a tax cut, and yet fact-checkers go with the time he said otherwise. It’s hard to play this game. Washington Post even admits Romney said this, “But in the GOP Arizona debate in February, he said: ‘We’re going to cut taxes on everyone across the country by 20 percent, including the top 1 percent.’”
The Tax Policy Center “examined Mr. Romney’s claim and found that, even if every loophole for the top brackets were closed, there wouldn’t be enough revenue. The middle class would have to pay more.”
But the head of the Tax Policy Center writes that he can’t claim Romney intends to raise taxes on the middle class, because he doesn’t know what Romney’s goals are. Bonus for obfuscating? Rather, “I view it as showing that his plan can’t accomplish all his stated objectives.” So we are to believe that Romney won’t tell us his plans because we would like them. The Romney campaign has given every excuse in the book for not telling us, up to an including that there isn’t enough “time” in this entire election season.
The question the fact-checkers should be asking is if Romney won’t tell us, what does that suggest? Do they think he really doesn’t have a plan, or do they suspect that perhaps other independent analysts are correct, and Romney’s plan involves what he himself admitted in Ohio; i.e., raising taxes on the middle class by cutting deductions and exemptions.
It’s interesting how Romney is let off of the hook because he has publicly stated two different positions, and thus fact-checkers can’t hold him to either, so if Obama accuses him of one of them, fact-checkers can say that Romney once said that wasn’t his position. Furthermore, shouldn’t a candidate’s policies matter more than their words? Romney won’t tell us his tax policy.
Perhaps it’s time for fact-checkers to do an overall honesty grade, so that the people can get an idea of what information they are really getting from the candidates. Consistency is a part of honesty. Honesty is defined as a straightforwardness of conduct and adherence to the facts; sincerity. Romney is not being straightforward about his tax plans and he’s misrepresenting Obama’s by a long stretch.
Letting Romney off of the hook because he once said something contradictory to what he is now saying is a public disservice, especially when everyone – fact-checkers and the Romney campaign included – admits that they can’t make Romney’s math work.
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Luciboo
Oct. 6th, 2012 at 3:23 pm
I have to say that while the ads are fine. If the President doesn’t call Mitt out face to face. Then it is like someone who is nice to your face but talks behind your back. It appears you are scared of confrontation. I don ‘ t think that is true but that is how it appears.
Karen Brown
Oct. 7th, 2012 at 11:12 am
Not really. He didn’t ‘talk nice to Mitt’ to his face. He ignored Mitt’s lies in person, because he was there to ANSWER THE QUESTIONS. If he nodded and agreed, THEN said he lied, that’d be different.
But, at the debate, both parties are asked questions. Obama could have spent all his time addressing Mitt’s lies, and made the debate ALL about Mitt, and be open to the charges of ‘you never talked about what you’d do, just used your time to do a big attack ad’, or he could wait until the answers were on public record, use his time to answer his questions, then let the ads and speeches, where there’s no buzzer, address the lies.
Actually, a great strategy for the long haul.
Grovegal
Oct. 6th, 2012 at 3:34 pm
This is all SO infuriating! The average American who doesn’t spend every spare moment following politics is lost. Obama’s campaign can issues corrections and ads but how far down they’ll go to those people is unknown. There’s a LOT of low information voters!
Karl Rove anyone?
Alan
Oct. 6th, 2012 at 3:42 pm
Interesting point here: As partisan as AEI clearly is, even their spokesman has admitted that there’s virtually no chance that political pressure affected the Bureau of Labor Statistics and their release of the September jobless numbers–GOP claims notwithstanding…
clarence swinney
Oct. 6th, 2012 at 3:44 pm
HOW CONSERVATIVES RUINED A GREAT DEMOCRACY
A NEW CORPOCRACY
Ruined our great Savings and Loan Institution
Closed Fairness Doctrine that has Limbaugh types on our public airwaves
Closed Revenue Sharing
Since 1980, initiated our involvement in 10 foreign conflicts
Repealed Glass Steagall—took deposits in over 7000 banks and put 50% in 5 (Too Big To Fail)
and 80% in 10 (Too Big To Fail) Banks.
Modernization of Commodity Markets—from investment to Casino Derivative Of America
2 very dumb invasions of two of most unarmed and destitute nations.
Ruined our International reputation as a Do Good Christian nation to Big Bully Devil
Stood by as freak marketeers ruined our housing industry
Stood by as Casino Derivative Of America ruined the world financial industry
Impeached a great president for petty political gains that created a long term animosity between the parties
Attempted to destroy the safety nets that make a great middle class
Implemented Tax Codes that permitted a redistribution of Wealth to top (10%) who now own (73% )of Net Wealth and (83%) of Financial Wealth and take (50%)of all individual income
They have taken America to a rank of (#2) as Least Taxed in OECD nations; (#2) as least taxed corporations; and sadly to (# 4) on Inequality.
Since 1980, their Spend & Borrow policies, mainly, were responsible for adding 14,000 billion to our 1000B Debt when they started in 1981.
Fought the Great GI Bill.
Fought the WWII Draft
Installed strict laws which have loaded our prisons with non-violent offenders which make us world leader in prison population
CONCLUSION-WANT TO VIEW END OF AN EMPIRE THEN YIELDED TOTAL CONTROLOF GOVERNMENT TO REPUBLICAN CONSERVATIVES AS WAS DONE IN 2001-2002-2003-2004=2005-2006- WHICH WILL BE JUDGED AS, OUTSIDE OF THEIR GREAT DEPRESSION, THE SIX WORST YEARS IN OUR HISTORY
IMAGINE THEM IN CONTROL FOR 12 YEARS????
Eddie Powell
Oct. 6th, 2012 at 6:05 pm
Agree….
Joy
Oct. 7th, 2012 at 12:23 pm
Clarence this post needs to go viral. It needs to be it’s own blog. This is a concise expose of how and for how long the GOP has been screwing America under the guise of patriotism! What a sad cruel joke to the American people. And there’s more to come that has not seen the light of day in terms of women’s rights and civil rights. God help us. We need to give more support to President Obama in every way.
Kiki
Oct. 7th, 2012 at 1:22 pm
Do I have your permission to repost your comment on Facebook? and if so, would you prefer I use your name or not?
ibwilliamsi
Oct. 6th, 2012 at 4:52 pm
The ad is all well and good, but the debate was a captive audience, and anyone with a DVR is skipping campaign commercials.
The President should have called Romney on his source during the debate. It’s not as though AEI was an unknown entity. It should have been expected that Romney would bring it up, and it should have been shot down before it got wings and flew into the brains of the vapid “undecideds” as “fact”.
Reynardine
Oct. 6th, 2012 at 5:13 pm
The more I know, the more I think Jim Lehrer isn’t senile: he’s a senile Republican crook.
Eddie Powell
Oct. 6th, 2012 at 6:04 pm
Agree…..
Ipsophakto
Oct. 7th, 2012 at 3:16 am
I hate to burst the anti-Romney fest here, but on oct 3rd, the tax policy center recanted their conclusion about Romney’s plan. It doesn’t raise taxes on the middle class. People need to learn the distinction between tax rates and tax revenue. Romney schooled Obama on that twice in the debate. It didn’t sink in, nor do most people in the mass media understand it. Face it, Romney checkmated Obama on this issue.
Don’t take my word for it. Just ask the tax policy center:
www.weeklystandard.com/bl...
Paws
Oct. 7th, 2012 at 9:01 am
I believe you need to read the study because that is not what the Tax Policy Center concluded at all. Your link to the Weekly Standard tries to refute that study, and that’s fine, but you can’t say the TPC said middle class taxes would not go up because that is not what they said at all – that is what the Weekly Standard author said. Based on Romney’s 5 goals, the Tax Policy Center concluded:
“Nevertheless, it remains true – as we showed in our paper – that a reform proposal that meets the five goals stated above would have to raise burdens on middle-class households.”
Romney’s 5 goals are:
(1) cut current marginal income tax rates by 20 percent,
(2) preserve and enhance incentives for saving and investment2,
(3) eliminate the alternative minimum tax,
(4) eliminate the estate tax, and
(5) maintain revenue neutrality
Paul
Oct. 7th, 2012 at 12:03 pm
This is ironic. Politifact has showed that BOTH Obama and Romney have made false and half-true statements throughout their campaigns. So what business does Obama have of calling Romney a “liar”? None, other than the justification of being a wily politician himself.
Kiki
Oct. 7th, 2012 at 1:20 pm
I read some supposedly neutral fact checking article about the debate (possibly by the same organization you mention) and I found a major problem with it.Romney accusing the President of taking money out of Medicare was called a half-truth. While I don’t understand the details of their explanationm they admitted that the Medicare recipients will not be affected.Mitt’s purpose must have been to scare people they will be left without coverage. In this sense he told a complete lie. Why did the article not call him on that? And how can I respect the rest of their assessement, where pure logic does not suffice, where you have to trust their facts, because you don’t know how to get them from the source yourself?
Shiva (Moderator)
Oct. 7th, 2012 at 1:29 pm
Obama would cut extra payments to the service providers while the Ryan plan takes the same amount directly away from the recipients
Anne
Oct. 7th, 2012 at 1:51 pm
I am not surprised to see Willard’s defenders trying to establish a false equivalency between the president and Willard when it comes to Willard’s numerous and well-documented lies. Without saying that no Democratic politicians lie, there is no denying that Willard is in a class by himself. It’s worth keeping in mind that he has no intention of changing his proposed policies, but is trying at this late date to tack to the center. Anyone who fails to appreciate that his policies are exactly the same as before the debate does so at his/her peril.
clarence swinney
Oct. 8th, 2012 at 2:41 pm
TAX FINANCE
The Tea Party is saying that taxes on land and financial assets punish the “Job Creators”.
The wealthy claim they need to be pampered with tax preferences to invest and employ labor, while the 90% need to be kicked and prodded to work harder and get paid lower wages.
These falsehoods are seen easily as false by looking at 1945-1980 when individual and corporate taxes were highest in history yet we had highest growth in history.
Reagan started the transfer upward of income and wealth with his 60% tax cut for the top rate plus his spend/borrow fiscal policies. He spent more in 8 than prior 50 years. He increased debt by 189%.
How can the rich justify the Fed printing $13Trillion to bail our bankers and scream were it to do the same for federal-grants-in aid to states and cities to vitalize our economy by creating millions of jobs
Think about helping 90% not the top 10%.
Our cities and states need revenue. Reagan axed Revenue Sharing which would be vital today.
Bush II tried to outdo Reagan on Spend/Borrow with 92% increase in Spending and 112% increase in Debt giving us a Great Recession and 2,700,000 jobs outsourced to just China. Plus destroying our Housing Industry. Plus created two awful unneeded wars. Invade two unarmed, destitute nations.
Shame on us is what history will read. Clarence disgusted swinney
clarence swinney
Oct. 8th, 2012 at 4:55 pm
PAST 50 YEARS OF GOVERNMENT TO 2010
——————————-R——-D
Years in Presidency——28—–22
Total jobs created——–24m—42m
stock market return—–109%–992%
return per annum——–2.7%—11%
gdp growth per annum–2.7%—4.1%
Income Growth annum-0.6%—–2.2%
Sources-
Dept of Labor
Bloomberg