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Obama Drops The House On The GOP’s Wicked Witch Debt Ceiling Act
By: Guest ContributorJul. 15th, 2011more from Guest Contributor
Toto, I've a feeling we're not in Kansas any more. ...
At his press conference today, Obama continued to bludgeon the GOP congressional leadership, by pointing out that much of their own base supports increasing revenue along with raising the debt ceiling.
Here is the video from MSNBC:
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Obama first knocked down the right wing media meme that defaulting on the debt is no big deal, “And for the general public — I’ve said this before but I just want to reiterate — this is not some abstract issue. These are obligations that the United States has taken on in the past. Congress has run up the credit card, and we now have an obligation to pay our bills. If we do not, it could have a whole set of adverse consequences. We could end up with a situation, for example, where interest rates rise for everybody all throughout the country, effectively a tax increase on everybody, because suddenly whether you’re using your credit or you’re trying to get a loan for a car or a student loan, businesses that are trying to make payroll, all of them could end up being impacted as a consequence of a default.”
The President also restated his desire to raise taxes on the rich,
And it would require revenues. It would require, even as we’re asking the person who needs a student loan or the senior citizen or people — veterans who are trying to get by on a disability check — even as we’re trying to make sure that all those programs are affordable, we’re also saying to folks like myself that can afford it that we are able and willing to do a little bit more; that millionaires and billionaires can afford to do a little bit more; that we can close corporate loopholes so that oil companies aren’t getting unnecessary tax breaks or that corporate jet owners aren’t getting unnecessary tax breaks.
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Contrary to what some folks say, we’re not Greece, we’re not Portugal. It turns out that our problem is we cut taxes without paying for them over the last decade; we ended up instituting new programs like a prescription drug program for seniors that was not paid for; we fought two wars, we didn’t pay for them; we had a bad recession that required a Recovery Act and stimulus spending and helping states — and all that accumulated and there’s interest on top of that.And to unwind that, what’s required is that we roll back those tax cuts on the wealthiest individuals, that we clean up our tax code so we’re not giving out a bunch of tax breaks to companies that don’t need them and are not creating jobs, we cut programs that we don’t need, and we invest in those things that are going to help us grow.
Later Obama pointed out that even the GOP base disagrees with their no new revenue stance,
My Republican friends have said that they’re not willing to do revenues and they have repeated that on several occasions. My hope, though, is that they’re listening not just to lobbyists or special interests here in Washington, but they’re also listening to the American people. Because it turns out poll after poll, many done by your organizations, show that it’s not just Democrats who think we need to take a balanced approach; it’s Republicans as well.
The clear majority of Republican voters think that any deficit reduction package should have a balanced approach and should include some revenues. That’s not just Democrats; that’s the majority of Republicans. You’ve got a whole slew of Republican officials from previous administrations. You’ve got a bipartisan commission that has said that we need revenues.
So this is not just a Democratic understanding; this is an understanding that I think the American people hold that we should not be asking sacrifices from middle-class folks who are working hard every day, from the most vulnerable in our society — we should not be asking them to make sacrifices if we’re not asking the most fortunate in our society to make some sacrifices as well.
President Obama hinted that the GOP will pay for rigid no compromise stance at the polls in 2012,
I am going to keep on working and I’m going to keep on trying. And what I’m going to do is to hope that, in part, this debate has focused the American people’s attention a little bit more and will subject Congress to scrutiny. And I think increasingly the American people are going to say to themselves, you know what, if a party or a politician is constantly taking the position “my way or the high way,” constantly being locked into ideologically rigid positions, that we’re going to remember at the polls.
It’s kind of cumulative. The American people aren’t paying attention to the details of every aspect of this negotiation, but I think what the American people are paying attention to is who seems to be trying to get something done, and who seems to be just posturing and trying to score political points. And I think it’s going to be in the interests of everybody who wants to continue to serve in this town to make sure that they are on the right side of that impression.
Obama not only turned up the pressure on congressional leaders, he also pointed out that most of their own base disagrees with their position. The latest Gallup poll found that 74% of Republicans believed that some revenue increase will be necessary to balance the budget. A Quinnipiac poll found that 67% of voters want taxes raised on the rich and corporations, and an overview of 19 different polls found that Americans support increasing taxes to reduce the deficit.
The President has pressed the Republicans to the point where they have shifted from claiming that the deficit is the greatest threat facing America to a position of eh, it is no big deal if we default. Every day, the President is continuing to push his advantage on this issue. Obama has made it clear that there will be no escape hatches opened. Republicans are going to have to do what most of America wants done, or they will face the political consequences.
Republicans thought they knew Obama. They thought that they could bully him around. The GOP leadership (along an assortment of far left ideological jihadists and firebaggers) believed that the very threat of default would send Obama scurrying to meet their every demand. They all have gravely misjudged this president. There will be no saving face for the GOP on the debt ceiling issue. They are going to have to agree to raise taxes on the rich, or face the vengeance of the American people after they wreck the economy for a second time in less than four years.
President Obama is not only winning this one, he is routing the GOP.
The Republican congressional leadership is a lot like the Wicked Witch of The East in the Wizard of Oz. It must feel like one day out of the blue a (white) house fell from the sky and crushed them. They never saw it coming.
GOP Totos, you’re not in Kansas anymore.
2012, here we come.
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Sarah Jones
Jul. 15th, 2011 at 7:14 pm
ah hem. Where are the apologies to the President for the assumption that he was weak? Oh, I kid. I know we won’t hear a peep. All they had to do was look in his eyes 6 days ago and they would have known. I saw it. It was RIGHT there. He wasn’t messing around.
Even the business community can’t deal with the GOP clowns anymore. I used to care if they ruined the economy (I still have a few dollars left from the Bush crash in my portfolio) but I don’t care anymore. I’m exhausted from their attacks on the American people. Screw it. Let them take the whole country down.
Shiva (Moderator)
Jul. 15th, 2011 at 7:46 pm
Does that mean your coming to live here in the mountains wid us poor folk?
Sarah Jones
Jul. 15th, 2011 at 8:00 pm
I’m thinking of going off the grid baby.
newmeximan
Jul. 15th, 2011 at 9:37 pm
My southern NM home is grid tied so that the utility pays me for electricity. My northern NM home is off grid, because of the distance to utility poles.
Both are near small communities where the residents actually care about each others well being, even if we don’t like each other. United we stand.
Ingarose
Jul. 15th, 2011 at 9:00 pm
You know what, there comes a point were reasonable people just cannot take it anymore. The other day I said to my son.”Let them have the whole shit and caboodle.” let Bachman, Kantor, zombies Boehner, O’Donnel lead America. They would not last very long, but maybe, just maybe a lot more people would wake up.
CW in LA
Jul. 15th, 2011 at 9:59 pm
People woke up and noticed Bush & his Insane Clown Posse were leading America into the dumper after Hurricane Katrina, but by the 2010 they’d pretty much forgotten. I fear too little will change until we get over our national short-term memory and attention span challenges.
Ingarose
Jul. 15th, 2011 at 11:08 pm
Boy, are you right. I really thought that things would change after Katrina, no such luck. Each time there are severe droughts, floods, hurricanes, tornadoes I think that people might wake up, but no such luck.
Sarah Jones
Jul. 15th, 2011 at 11:08 pm
Exactly. I’m that tired of these clowns. Let them shut the country down. Why save them from their own suicide?
Tom
Jul. 15th, 2011 at 7:16 pm
Hoorah
Cathy
Jul. 15th, 2011 at 9:00 pm
This whole fiasco has me so upset, I just want to throttle the first repub I see. President Obama is the only intelligent voice coming from DC. The rest are either freshmen with their tea party agendas or the old timers who have been there way too long and enjoy doing nothing! POTUS seems to be the only one who remembers the people he was elected to serve. Hoping for the big deal, and hoping these knuckleheads are all sent home in 2012.
Shiva (Moderator)
Jul. 15th, 2011 at 9:38 pm
You cannot run a country on decreasing revenues. Reagan was possibly the worst president we have ever had and he started us down this road. Even the GOP knows Obama is right. You cannot decrease revenues and be profitable. We dont have a spending problem, we have a revenue problem. And a jobs problem that makes the revenue problem worse.
The GOP is trash
Elizabeth
Jul. 15th, 2011 at 9:53 pm
I heard on NPR today the statement that the last fiscal year, government revenues were the lowest since the early 1950s. How much has the population increased since then? We have a revenue problem.
newmeximan
Jul. 15th, 2011 at 9:40 pm
It all comes down to the statement made by Sen. McConnell shortly after the 2012 election. His only goal is make Obama a one tern President. Damn the torpedoes, ruin the economy, impoverish a generation of citizens. All is less important than making sure the President is not re-elected.
The Platzner Post
Jul. 15th, 2011 at 10:37 pm
The GOP are a yellow brick short of a full load !!!
Jolly Roger
Jul. 15th, 2011 at 10:41 pm
While I certainly do not think that the President has played his hands particularly skilfully (December was the time to let all of the Chimperial givebacks to the rich expire, and cutting a deal with Beady-Eyes was just the wrong thing to do,) I hope that the President has learned his lesson and decided to stop playing footsie with the Rushpubliscums. He’s trying to talk policy with a bunch of morons led by a drunk. Talking to such a bunch is futile; only discipline works on them.
Sarah Jones
Jul. 15th, 2011 at 11:01 pm
He did what he had to do in order to get UE benefits extended for the poor and the economy. In this case, he doesn’t have something that only he wants. The entire country wants the debt ceiling raised, so he can stand firm.
FB
Jul. 16th, 2011 at 12:28 am
This may have been masterfully played.
He gave in on the Bush Tax cuts a few months ago and today, 6 months later, you have common folk Republicans ASKING (according to the polls) to have the rich taxed!!
McConnell and the goon squad have painted themselves into a corner. They have had no agenda (other than taking down the President) since coming into power in the House in 2010 and the american public isn’t falling for the smoke and mirrors.
Pull back the curtain PBHO and keep driving the point home. You know…to catapult the propaganda!!