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Understanding Your Government: Obama, FDR and the Notion of Change
more from Jason Easley and Sarah Jones
Some on the left left like to compare Obama to FDR, citing his many failures to live up to FDR’s New Deal. But both FDR and Obama did/do what they can within the constraints of their respective political environments.
The New Yorker recounts Obama telling one of his favorite FDR stories:
“At a fundraising dinner in 2008, in Montclair, New Jersey, Obama told one of his favorite stories about F.D.R. (He told the story apropos of the Israeli-Arab dispute, but it also pertains to gay marriage.) Obama recounted how when F.D.R. was confronted by the civil-rights leader A. Philip Randolph about the racial injustices in the country and the need for the President to use his powers and his bully pulpit, F.D.R. said he agreed but he would only take action when he was forced to do so by a popular movement. “Make me do it,” he told Randolph.”
No president can enact sustainable change until the will of the people calls for the change and that’s why the call to “make me do it” via a popular movement is key. The word popular is the often missed ingredient as activists attempt to sway the President. Popular implies that the majority of Americans support the change, so the question should be not how to get the President to make this change, but how to move the collective mind of the people.
Sustainable change comes through shaping public opinion, not by ramming unpopular laws through (see the ideologically disastrous reign of Scott Walker for proof) before appealing to popular sentiment. Even if public opinion exists for the change, and the President supports it, significant change could still succumb to weight of today’s treacherous legislative process.
Real change is served by using language to persuade the middle, because the left isn’t numerous or strong enough to unilaterally deliver change. Real change is brought about by things like mainstream entertainment shows including gay people in their characters and popular celebrities like Ellen coming out. Real change is brought about by turning “fringe” ideas into mainstream, shared acceptance.
Once an idea is accepted in the mainstream, public opinion has been changed. And when public opinion is changed, it becomes tougher for the opposition to take a vote against said legislation. No one knows this better than the far right. This is one reason they have so successfully co-opted our language and reframed our debates within conservative ideology. They did this by deliberately infiltrating the culture at every level.
The Right won minds in a myriad of ways — in local government, via think tanks that generate “expert opinions”, by putting a pleasant face on their radical agenda and repeating the mantra. They have branded themselves as the party of personal responsibility and reason in the public’s mind. And old ideas die hard.
Even if Obama did have the popular support needed to implement change, it would still be impossible for him to be like FDR, in part because of some of the changes that Roosevelt himself, and the subsequent legislative branch response to his administration’s power, have brought to our government. In 2009, Megan McCardle outlined some of the ways in which things have changed,
There was no institution like the CBO to model the impact of his programs, and implacably report that they were going to cost huge amounts of money
There was no vast fraternity of tax lawyers to help blunt the revenue enhancements from new taxes
Discipline in the Senate and the House was much stronger
Corporate lobbying was relatively weak, and interest group lobbying was in its infancy
There was no existing infrastructure of programs with constituents fighting change
Obama also can’t be like FDR because Roosevelt had gigantic majorities in Congress. After the 1932 election 2/3 of the members of Congress were Democrats. Democrats controlled 318 of the 435 seats in the House. There was no 60 vote rule in the Senate, so FDR had 60 votes and total control of the body. (This is part where progressives often argue that Obama also came into office with 60 votes. He didn’t. He had 58 votes and 2 Independents that caucused with the Democratic Party).
The importance of the 60 vote rule to the obstruction of Obama’s initiatives can’t be understated. It was a Democrat, Sen. Ben Nelson of Nebraska, who made sure that true comprehensive health care reform did not pass. Obama’s agenda was constantly held hostage by members of his own party, because the 60 vote gave every single Democrat in the caucus the power to singlehandedly water down or kill legislation.
FDR’s majority in the House was the only one since 1899 where a majority of the body was freshmen. These new members of the House were elected based on Roosevelt’s promise of a New Deal. Their political futures were directly tied to the President’s in a way that Obama’s Democratic majority was not.
The power dynamic between the executive and the legislative branches is also different than it was in 1932. Because of the Great Depression, the American people gave Roosevelt virtually unlimited power. (There was even talk during FDR’s first 100 days of giving him unlimited power to deal with the economy. After the hands off Hoover years, America wanted a strong president.) A vast majority of Americans looked to the President to lead them out of the Depression.
Obama came into office facing a different reality. America didn’t give Obama unlimited power. Instead, from almost the moment he took office, Obama had to deal with a Democratic majority in the Senate that was more interested in their own power than supporting the President. Rather than 1 shared agenda in early days of Obama’s term, there were 61 agendas — Obama’s plus a Democratic caucus’ whose political future was not directly tied to this President.
Franklin Roosevelt enjoyed an era where there was less media scrutiny of the President. There was no Internet, no television, and no 24 hour news cycle. If FDR’s first term faced the restrictions that Obama’s has, the New Deal would have never have come to be. These are the reasons why Obama can’t be FDR and just make Congress do what he wants to fulfill the progressive agenda.
It’s ironic that we use FDR to bash Obama with, when both are/were pragmatists who know how to use the sentiment of the day to enact big change. FDR had other advantages that Obama doesn’t, one of the biggest being that FDR’s America did not have such rampant mistrust of government as our generation does, post-Nixon and W. And FDR had language. He knew how to use language to make liberal ideas appeal to the mainstream, instead of coming off as a radical agenda. Obama shares this talent, though he is not as skilled in his direct communication with the American public as FDR. For all of the talk of Obama’s incredible oratory skills, few note that when speaking directly to the camera without a live audience, Obama’s passion falls flat. This President is at his best speaking to the people directly.
Make him do it, but first, make others want to make him do it, too.
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english saddle
Jun. 23rd, 2011 at 6:19 pm
I never realized some of these things. Can I say THANK YOU for the smart articles here! You never pander to anyone. I thought I lost my home when huff PO got taken over years ago by the nuts. Thank you will share this liberally!
nk007
Jun. 23rd, 2011 at 6:20 pm
Thanks for an excellent article! My only beef with it is that it does not attack the mythology that the New Deal immediately solved the economic situation. In his first two years in office FDR struggled because the Conservative Supreme Court invalidated many of his New Deal programs. He does pick up steam in the third year but still was forced to compromise on such signature legislation as Social Security. More importantly, even with all the New Deal public works programs, unemployment, especially in the Black community, remained very high– in double-digits actually. It wasn’t until the massive mobilization of WWII, in FDR’s third term, that grip of the depression was finally broken. WWII was the major stimulus that really created jobs.
My point is as great as FDR was, he still faced institutional and ideological restraints that forced him to compromise to get things done. Again the best example is the 1935 Social Security Act which excluded Agricultural and domestic workers. And in the area of civil rights, FDR’s record was really terrible. Because FDR’s New Deal coalition included Southern segregationist Democrats, FDR never pushed for civil rights legislation. I think the PL uses the mythical FDR to beat up on President Obama. I contend that the real FDR was not any more progressive than Obama.
Sarah Jones
Jun. 23rd, 2011 at 6:30 pm
I was unaware that anyone thought that FDR fixed things overnight….Perhaps things are worse than we imagined out there;-) That is, of course, fantasy type thinking.
Jason may have read every single FDR book there is – if he hasn’t, he probably has it sitting on his bookshelf ready to start. I’m sure he would love to write volumes on the subject. You are correct- there is much to be said about it –too much for one article. Thanks for the expansion of thought and excellent point.
Reynardine
Jun. 23rd, 2011 at 6:46 pm
We are comparing the 3+ terms Roosevelt had as compared to less than three years for this President, and I’d also point out that when FDR had an obstructionist, reactionary court, he threatened to pack it.
Ingarose
Jun. 23rd, 2011 at 8:35 pm
I have not read the article yet. The first thing I saw was the AD about Glenn Beck’s new TV/Internet show. He looks absolutely arrogant, smug, horrible (I can’t even find the words) in that picture. Then I clicked on his AD and he wants money for his new adventure.
Unfortunately, I believe he will get it. Somewhere I read that he only needs about 50,000.oo viewers in order to make as much as the pay at Fox.
Anyhow, I still think he is dangerous and somehow there must be a reason that his ad showed up on this site. I believe we all should stay vigilant.
After preparing dinner I will read the article.
allen
Jun. 23rd, 2011 at 9:17 pm
agreed… i’d only wished that Obama showed more passion in taking on his political opponents in his first days in office…
at this point i’m used to his demeanor and don’t expect a change…
i do believe ppl voted for and still want a change from republican policies … i also believe Obama and his staff badly mis-managed the messaging
or didn’t believe in their own politics or they were scared off course
probably all of that combined who knows…
i am and remained disappointed in the president
Aqua Rose
Jun. 23rd, 2011 at 11:22 pm
I, for one, believe we have the numbers, but the Republicans have the microphone. How to break through their propaganda machine and get people to speak up for themselves with their vote is the mission. Too many Democrats aren’t voting.
Aqua Rose
Jun. 23rd, 2011 at 11:32 pm
I also want to say that while I agree completely with the article, I’m very sympathetic to what Allen, above, has to say. Americans need to be inspired, especially now with the economy in such bad shape. He needs to project that image of leadership the way he did during the campaign. Whatever happened to “fired up, ready to go?”
Sadintheusa
Jun. 24th, 2011 at 1:58 am
“The first truth is that the liberty of a democracy is not safe if the people tolerate the growth of private power to a point where it becomes stronger than their democratic state itself. That, in its essence, is fascism — ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power”
— Franklin D. Roosevelt,
First step is to end the corperate power over politics and stop the Koch’s from spreading false propaganda. It doesn’t help to have the replicans holding our country in limbo and blocking everything to make Obama look bad until they can get a Republican president back in office.
nk007
Jun. 24th, 2011 at 3:38 am
He has been fired up and read to go from Day One! If you don’t believe it, please check out the breadth of his legislative accomplishments in just two years! I defy any one to show me any modern president (from JFK to George Bush Jr.) who has a comparable record. I am sure people will be quick to point to LBJ. What people fail to point out is that LBJ was continuing JFK’s presidency. I say that because I was there. I can assure you that the passage of Civil Rights bills, which is now solely credited to LBJ had a great deal to to do with the assassination of JFK, and the mass street protest of the Civil Rights Movement.
I am just so tired of armchair critics of this President. I guarantee you if the critics of President Obama mobilized, the same way the Civil Right movement did, he would have enacted more major legislation, including a more robust stimulus. I don’t know how old you are, but I’ve been consciously following politics since JFK, and, in my humble opinion, President Obama is not only one of the best Presidents, but he is also the most engaged and hard working President, in my life time. It is really a shame that people choose to ignore his record of achievement, in just two years.
Tina
Jun. 24th, 2011 at 6:08 am
I totally agree with every point you made.President Obama is the hardest working president I can remember.Seems to me that nobody in the D party has his back.If the D’s would just all support him on one thing,like the R’s support all other R’s,we might be able to see some progress.But the D’s have no spine and will wimp out on anything,any time.It is the whole party that pisses me off,not the President.
allen
Jun. 24th, 2011 at 7:09 am
disappointed yes… but i still support him…maybe Hillary would have had more guts … too late now…
i still believe Obama and his staff don’t fully appreciate the depths of this “GREAT recession” and one of the reasons is probably due to the very policies that FDR created in the ’30′s, unemployment insurance, food relief, etc… in fact i really believe this is a depression and not a recession…i’ve personally witnessed hundreds of american co-workers laid off thru the Bush years culminating in the disaster of ’08 and i got laid off myself. I was lucky enough to be w/o work for 3 weeks. Then got a temp job and things improved.
parts of the disaster of this economy are just hidden better b/c of FDR’s policies that otherwise would have been more visible as they were in the 1930′s…
Anne
Jun. 24th, 2011 at 10:25 am
This only buttresses the point I have made in previous posts to the effect that it is important for a president to have as much support in Congress as possible. It also buttresses the point that what happens at the state level has much more immediate impact, as shown by the destructive policies of Republican governors. As this article points out, Americans also have a significant role in the change we want. It’s up to us to inform ourselves about politicians and their records.
mel in oregon
Jun. 24th, 2011 at 3:02 pm
i’m sorry, but i don’t agree. it seems that just because boehner, ryan, mconnell & cantor are all cads that we are supposed to think obama’s doing a great job. nope, he’s awful, slightly better than bush, much better than the comical asses running for the republican nomination. obama has a majority of americans that think we should get out of afghanistan & iraq. in spite of his silly speech, we’ll be there 10 years from now. i knew he was a phoney when all of his cabinet appointments were wallstreet toadies. he easily could have replaced the wallstreet fed chief, bernanke when he came into office. but in spite of qualititative easement which has only lined the pockets of wallstreet speculators, obama continues supporting the main person responsible for america’s economic decline. bernanke is about to go on another binge of bond buying which does nothing to create jobs or help america’s suffering millions. we expect more, after all the wallstreet bailout caused american homeowners to lose $10 trillion in home equity. college students owe more than a trillion dollars on student loans. american’s are maxed out on usurious credit card interest rates. don’t let them pull the wool over your eyes with a silly article like this. fdr was our best president, he followed keynesian economic policies which is why america prospered for decades. obama is following reagonomic supply side economics, which is disastrous. we have plenty of supply, we need demand. only a huge amount of government created jobs will ever bring us out of the quagmire we’re stuck in. private enterprise is failing, they need some good old american competition from the government to right america’s sinking ship.
Marine0861
Jun. 25th, 2011 at 6:11 am
Great article.