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GOP Collapse: Obama Leads Gingrich And Romney In South Carolina And Florida
By: Guest ContributorDec. 11th, 2011more from Guest Contributor
New polls of South Carolina and Florida hint that the GOP’s chances of taking the White House are evaporating as Barack Obama leads both Mitt Romney and Newt Gingrich in each state.
The biggest surprise is in the new NBC/Marist poll of South Carolina, where Obama’s approval rating is a not too upside down for a reliable red state 44%/48%. The big shock is that President Obama has small leads over both Newt Gingrich (46%-42%), and Mitt Romney (45%-42%). Both of Obama’s narrow leads are outside the poll’s 2.1% margin of error. A new Winthrop poll has also found that President Obama is more popular that Republican South Carolina Gov. Nikki Haley. The Winthrop Poll gives Obama nearly identical to NBC 44.8% approval rating, and only 34.6% approve of Gov. Haley.
Gingrich is absolutely destroying Romney in South Carolina among likely primary voters 42%-23%. Newt Gingrich leads Mitt Romney 51%-20% among tea partiers. Romney’s biggest problem in the state is that Republicans are more interested in a candidate who shares their values (29%), and is close to them on the issues (26%) than one that can beat Obama (20%). By a margin of 61%-53% Republicans found Gingrich more acceptable than Romney, and 44% of Republicans believed that Romney was acceptable with reservations or not acceptable at all. Only 26% of likely primary voters considered Romney a conservative.
In Florida, Obama has seen his approval rating jump five points since October. It is within the margin of error, but more voters now approve of Obama than disapprove (46%-45%). Obama now leads Romney by seven points, (48%-41%), and Gingrich by 12 points in the Sunshine State, (51%-39%). Newt Gingrich is blowing out Romney in Florida for the same reasons that he is trouncing him in South Carolina. Florida Republicans said that it was more important to them that a candidate shared their values (26%) and is close to them on the issues (28%) than can beat Obama (23%).
Gingrich also holds a commanding lead over Romney among tea partiers, (57%-22%). Among likely GOP primary voters, 58% found Mitt Romney to be an acceptable candidate, but 28% felt that he was acceptable with reservations 10% felt that he was not acceptable at all. Sixty five percent of likely GOP primary voters found Newt Gingrich acceptable. Only 20% felt that he was acceptable with reservations and 11% believed that he was not acceptable.
Within the Republican Party what is happening is a repeat of the 2010 election. GOP primary voters in South Carolina and Florida are more concerned with shared values and positions than they are with electability. Mitt Romney’s entire campaign is built around the theme of being able to defeat Obama, but Republican voters would rather lose with someone who they feel shares their values than potentially win with Mitt Romney. The difference between Gingrich and Romney is that Newt knows how to woo the base. In two separate presidential campaigns, Romney has not been able to ease doubts about his conservative cred. It is a pretty safe bet that those doubts are never going to go away.
Obama’s popularity is improving even in places like South Carolina because of his focus on creating jobs and the economy. While the Republican nomination has turned into an ideological spitting contest over who can cut the most taxes and be the most extreme conservative, Obama has been talking about the economy and creating jobs every single day for months now.
The jobs message is powerful, and Republicans have turned the issue over to Obama by promising to create jobs by following the same failed policies of George W. Bush. In a bad economy, a platform of tax cuts for the rich and more trickle down is not what voters want to hear. They want the government to do something, and Obama is the only candidate who has offered any real solutions.
It would be a miracle if Obama won South Carolina, but the combination of bad candidates and even worse message has made President Obama the favorite as we head into 2012. As long as Obama keeps hammering the jobs message and the economy keeps improving his polling and approval ratings will go up, and Republicans will see their dream of making Barack Obama a one term president shattered.
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sherifffruitfly
Dec. 11th, 2011 at 3:48 pm
ur doin it wrong.
OBAMA IZ DOOOOOOOOMED!!!
Thanks,
The Media
karen tahir
Dec. 11th, 2011 at 5:46 pm
Where do you get that information? Obama is not doomed as you think in your small world. He will win the Presidency again…you never thought he would win the first time and he did :) Just expect the same for his second term…Obama 2012!
ari papandreou
Dec. 11th, 2011 at 7:35 pm
the president is looking very well.
Jay Peterson
Dec. 11th, 2011 at 5:53 pm
Eye gues gud splelling iz not imptotent to youse peeple.
AFM
Dec. 11th, 2011 at 6:06 pm
This country is doomed no matter which republican gets the primary. I would like to ask voters haven’t they had enough of the republican train wreck yet? Don’t they realize these people really don’t care about the country. They are only interested in the stinking wealthy and the religious zealots who don’t care for the poor.
baz_blackadder
Dec. 12th, 2011 at 7:45 pm
I think I’d probably put more credibility in the post of someone with far less appalling grammar.
Slade
Dec. 13th, 2011 at 2:25 am
I c wat u did thar.
henry riemer
Dec. 22nd, 2011 at 7:28 pm
Dear president Thank you so much for all what you do.
I wish and hope you are 4 years more.For me you are are great president.
Happy merry Christmas
my god blessed you and family.
Henry Please the second term to you only you i have faith in you mr president.
Linda1961
Dec. 11th, 2011 at 3:57 pm
Yes, it would take a miracle for Obama to win my state, but it looks like the gop is trying their level best to help him win SC, and the rest of the nation. If this doesn’t make the gop rethink their strategy for 2012, nothing will.
ari papandreou
Dec. 11th, 2011 at 7:37 pm
the miracle is looking very reliable
Andrew Carvin
Dec. 11th, 2011 at 4:00 pm
The Republicans with their evil kill everyone but the rich agenda writes it’s own anti-Republican ads without Democratic help.
I mean you have people like New Gingrich (Republican) supporting child slave labor, and other Republicans like Eric Cantor that block federal aid to those hit by hurricanes.
And that’s just the tip of the Republican evil iceberg.
Vote Democrat
The Republicans’ destructive social policies ENSURE there will be UNESCESSARRY SUFFERING AND DEATH.
The Republicans dehumanize their victims like rapists, and use evil social policy to callously murder the non-rich.
The Republicans know this, and actively CHOOSE to cause UNESCESSARRY SUFFERING AND DEATH.
A vote for the Republican party might as well be rape and murder by proxy.
The Democrats on the other hand have made good on some of their promises despite Republican barriers, and continue to advocate for the middle/poor classes against the Republicans’ wishes.
VOTE DEMOCRAT!
karen tahir
Dec. 11th, 2011 at 5:47 pm
Vote Democrat and save our country! Obama 2012!
Rho D
Dec. 12th, 2011 at 4:44 am
Get down to the brass tacks locally, and just let the newcomers take their shot. In Florida, there are many non-reds and non-blues running. The two-party system needs some competition out there. It’s time to use what we have been neglecting.
Caleb
Dec. 12th, 2011 at 3:34 am
Andrew,
Stop sugar-coating. Tell us how you really feel.
Caleb
E
Dec. 11th, 2011 at 4:15 pm
I way I see it with S Carolina is that if the president can keep S Carolina close, that would force the GOP to spend money ina place they shouldn’t, which in turn keeps some focus off the swing states.
Caleb
Dec. 12th, 2011 at 3:38 am
E,
I think Obama’s purpose in 2008 was to turn South Carolina into a swing state, thus widening the political battlefield. I just didn’t realize that he’d be successful in 2008 and that Republicans would repeat their mistake in 2012.
Stephen in Portland
Dec. 11th, 2011 at 4:46 pm
Are we witnessing the first telltale splintering of the old, dead wood of the Republican party? Sweet!
EmmaLib
Dec. 11th, 2011 at 5:05 pm
The GOP
Every step they take,
Every move they make,
They improve the chances of Obama winning tenfold!
Obama 2012!
Who would have guessed, the G0P actually helping Obama win another term! Awesome.
ari papandreou
Dec. 11th, 2011 at 7:39 pm
i love it,i wanted this too happen so badly
Shiva (Moderator)
Dec. 11th, 2011 at 5:29 pm
The tea pugs are no longer anyone who can determine what candidate they want. If they accept Newt, they forego all their vaunted but invisible values
Wait, newt IS their values.
If you think about it, with Newt so high and a year to crash over his ego, this will destruct them for sure. No newt, Romney way down in the polls.
Oh damm, me n Hraf will have to start going to church
Frymaster
Dec. 11th, 2011 at 5:41 pm
I just hope everybody stays in the race right up to the GOP convention. Everything they’re doing is COMEDY GOLD.
Gerry Moore
Dec. 11th, 2011 at 5:51 pm
Thank GOD!!!!
Dasein
Dec. 11th, 2011 at 7:05 pm
I agree that this has been the most entertaining primary season. It is almost as though Trump choreographed this GOP reality show; and just as each one is about to grab for the brass ring, they get whacked on the head, now leaving Newt and Mitt to their prolonged slug-fest. A perfect 10, as reality television…but stupid politics all around; this is why Obama is likely to win 2012.
Gordon Hilgers
Dec. 11th, 2011 at 7:18 pm
And to think Obama hasn’t really started campaigning yet.
Jo Hargis
Dec. 12th, 2011 at 6:26 am
Yeah, and Trump has barely stuck his toe in yet. Wait til he gets going good, he should be the final nail in the coffin of the party formerly known as the Republican Party. I shall buy extra popcorn in advance, in anticipation.
Robert F. Galgano
Dec. 11th, 2011 at 7:29 pm
Don’t worry, anti-black voter, I mean anti-”voter fraud” measures will be implemented to ensure the correct outcome…
Deborah Montesano
Dec. 11th, 2011 at 8:03 pm
OH, this does my heart good!
Nathaniel
Dec. 11th, 2011 at 9:41 pm
By a margin of 99.9% Mitt Romney and Newt Gingrich are the two biggest tools in the tool set.
Ray Kerstetter
Dec. 11th, 2011 at 9:43 pm
polls are just a useless waste of time and energy.
If the voting public would put more time and effort in getting together decent more choices to pick from in 2012,(including more political parties) we’d see much needed change. Otherwise, it’s the same ole same ole .
Sarah Jones
Dec. 11th, 2011 at 10:48 pm
Newt is the same as Obama?
Shiva (Moderator)
Dec. 11th, 2011 at 10:56 pm
Well, you know white men cant jump
And lots of people don’t understand statistics either
Dennis
Dec. 11th, 2011 at 10:07 pm
As a Floridian, having voted for Alex Sink and ending up with Rick Scott, I am LOVING THIS!!!! And anyone who thinks Obama is doomed is on crack to the 100th power!!! Florida made a HUGE MISTAKE voting Rick Scott in!!! The man has an approval rating of 26%!!! THE LOWEST IN THE NATION!!!! People see what they get when Tea Party nutjob candidates win. They won’t make that same mistake for the nation.
Big T
Dec. 12th, 2011 at 6:20 am
When the people focus on the astronomical (and doctored-down) unemployment numbers, the horrible housing market, uncontrollable inflation, government regulation, no confidence and thn remember the slide went into high gear after Obama took us over…I’d love to see your polls…
Right now the media is STRESSING, All Day Long, any Negative to define the GOP candidates.
Wait ’til the people and the Republicans start spending the Billions (I’ll contribute all I can) to EXPOSE the Mess Obama has made.
It is Stupid to think people will ignore the Terrible Job Obama is doing. He is (w/o a doubt) the WORST president in my lifetime, and I was alive for Jimmy Carter…
Obama worshipers are bolstered by a dutiful media to comfort them. But there will be so many splinter groups to reveal Obama for what he is…he has NO Chance. He is a loser, and if you are an American, you should be glad for that. Obama does not understand our valures, nor does he believe in them.
Misty
Dec. 12th, 2011 at 1:20 pm
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Never say never
Sky
Dec. 12th, 2011 at 2:18 pm
Wow troll much, not a single factual statement, no numbers no proof, just perpetual GOP talking points… no wonder low information, low intelligence voters support the party of No.
BamBamFunkhauser
Dec. 12th, 2011 at 7:29 am
What posters dont realize is that in states with large black populations like SC, GA, AL, MS , LA, Obama’s approval rating has both a very low ceiling and very high floor. If Obama is polling at 42-45% in SC, that is what he will get on election day. Since Jan 2009, Obama’s approval rating has been nearly steady in the above mentioned states(In GA Obama is at 47% approval, he got 47% in 2008), while in states with little to no black voters, Obama’s approval rating has fallen dramatically. In Iowa and Vermont Obama has fallen from over 70% approval in Jan 2009 to about 50-55% approval today. Obama will not win SC. What you are seeing in states like SC, is that black voters will support Obama no matter how bad of a job he is doing.
Misty
Dec. 12th, 2011 at 1:22 pm
Blaxck voters have supported Bill CLinton strongly too. It’s not abut race as much as the issues , and the issues of the Democrat party, in comparison to Republicans, work in the interest. obamaachievements.org/lis...
Sky
Dec. 12th, 2011 at 2:19 pm
Smacks a little of racism Bam, let me guess you can’t wait for some old white demagogue to get back into the white house?
Craig
Dec. 13th, 2011 at 11:28 am
When was the last time a Democrat carried South Carolina? You know the GOP is in big trouble when they are trailing in states that SHOULD go to them are. Every dollar spent on ads and campaigning there to defend their own turf is money that could be spent in traditional battlegrounds like Florida, Ohio and Pennsylvania.
Shiva (Moderator)
Dec. 16th, 2011 at 11:05 pm
Out of curiosity, which republican?
Wishy Washy Romney?
Totally unreliable and untruthful Gingrich?
The man who hates the gay Santorum?
The religious fundamentalists Perry or Bachmann? (be ready to change your religion)
Or mr I want you to be in a regulation free but very dangerous work place Paul?