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Police In Riot Gear Gas The Protesters At Occupy Oakland
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Ahab
Oct. 25th, 2011 at 4:51 pm
Shocking. That show of force was NOT necessary, but I’m glad it’s being publicized.
Oh, and Freak Out Nation rocks!
David Scott
Oct. 25th, 2011 at 4:58 pm
Corporate Nazi Storm Troopers in America .I thought I served MY COUNTRY so this would never OCCUR…Well the Oakland Police are a DISGRACE!!!!What they have accomplished is giving all Police a BAD NAME…They cannot STOP what is going on..They keep adding to or numbers as they beat our people down..They are just lucky these people were and remained peaceful…These IDIOT COPS could have STARTED A WAR..They STILL MAY HAVE Done JUST THAT
Amy
Oct. 25th, 2011 at 6:51 pm
Maybe the former military men and women here should join the Marines and start to organize protection for the protesters, to recruit rank and file police to stand up to their officers and just say NO I will not hit this unarmed person, they have first amendment rights to be here and to speak. The Marines are not just planning to protect us, but they are also helping set up facilities and organize supplies for Occupy communities.
Occupymarines.org
I just learned of this yesterday, and I am a civilian. A grateful civilian.
Thank you all for your service.
Robyn Ryan
Oct. 25th, 2011 at 7:32 pm
You’re welcome.
Because of budget cuts by GOP, I’d really prefer a tip. It would help with my medical costs.
crystalwolfakacaligrl
Oct. 25th, 2011 at 8:33 pm
I just was on the OccupyMarines FB site and someone posted the video above…
She said:
I love the whole “those inside the park…you are arrested.” Really? So now they can just arrest you by saying so without reading your rights huh? I wouldn’t have submitted to anything just cause someone told me on a loud speaker. Isn’t that how they organized the lines of Jews at Auschwitz? Sorry for the outburst. Stay strong!
So no Miranda rights, just Your arrested? Also loved how the cops threw the garbage cans and spilled all the garbage that will be blamed on “peaceful Protesters”
Since the Bush-years the Cops have morphed in Storm troopers! At the drop of a hat they will pull on their SWAT crap and storm innocent peoples houses and kill their dogs in front of their Children.
Glad the Marines are getting involved.
Semper Fi!
Paul Frank
Oct. 25th, 2011 at 7:19 pm
I have tried recently to gain a deeper understanding of what constitutes excessive use of force by the police. While local laws vary, there is typically some sort of laws giving the police authority to enforce crowd control measures which are in their judgment necessary. Moreover, if those crowd control directions are not obeyed, the police have the right to physically enforce them. I base this on a response to a question posed on Quora about police brutality, which was responded to by a criminal justice technology writer. (www.quora.com/Law-Enforce... ) More info warmly invited. I might add that this was news to me.
Robyn Ryan
Oct. 25th, 2011 at 7:29 pm
Try the 1st Amendment
Freedom of assembly, sometimes used interchangeably with the freedom of association, is the individual right to come together and collectively express, promote, pursue and defend common interests.[1] The right to freedom of association is recognized as a human right, a political freedom and a civil liberty.
Freedom of assembly and freedom of association may be used to distinguish between the freedom to assemble in public places and the freedom of joining an association. Freedom of assembly is often used in the context of the right to protest, while freedom of association is used in the context of labor rights and the Constitution of the United States, is interpreted to mean both the freedom to assemble and the freedom to join an association.[2][not in citation given]
The United States constitution explicitly provides for ‘the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances’” in the First Amendment.
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Mr. Peabody
Oct. 25th, 2011 at 7:56 pm
Right; and the Constitution states: ” The acquistion of public places for the purposes of protest due to grievances against governmental malfeasmances shall be deemed lawful by both Federal and Stative entities”.
DannyEastVillage
Oct. 25th, 2011 at 8:45 pm
the repubs use the constitution for toilet tissue.
bobbyflayed
Oct. 25th, 2011 at 9:38 pm
constitutional amendments also protect free speech but I dont think that anyone would disagree that there are exceptions which override some of those rights such as yelling bomb on airplane…
Shiva (Moderator)
Oct. 25th, 2011 at 10:00 pm
Free speech is not what people think it is. You have the right to free speech, but on another persons property the owner has the right to block or accept your speech. A website such as this is a good example. The owner has the right to determine the type of speech that is acceptable. Just because you say it doesn’t mean it will stay
Freedom of speech is implied in the constitution, freedom from the government censoring your speech is in writing.
Joe in Portland
Oct. 26th, 2011 at 12:02 am
If allowed the exercise of free speech, speech will likely be the result. Exercise violence and it probably will be met with violence. Directly or indirectly.
We find ourselves at a fork in the road…
cleo17
Oct. 25th, 2011 at 9:15 pm
the repubs use the constition to MAKE YOU SUFFER!
anon
Oct. 25th, 2011 at 11:35 pm
@repubs are to blame…
Don’t be silly. The Republicans and Democrats are completely unified in their service to their corporate masters, at the populace’s expense.
Stop voting for anybody with D or R next to their names, and we might make a little headway via the political system. Unlikely that much will change via that avenue, but it should still be pursued.
Chris
Oct. 27th, 2011 at 3:43 pm
Word. Democrats and Republicans are unified as Politicians. The two party system means to stay in power they must cater to the people giving them money. Vote for the party that best represents you? Well if you can show me that 2 parties can encompass all people’s views then you are impressive. I personally do not believe we are represented by our politicians because the majority of people cannot donate to campaigns and have differing views from those who do donate, meaning we cannot be adequitely represented by our elected officials.
To that end I say the means would be to create more political parties. Make them represent you, force them to bend their views to match yours. We are the power. We are the people. We create votes. We are the jobs which make them money. Create your party and have it vie for power against the goliaths of Dems/Repubs.
In closing: Two parties CANNOT represent millions of people. Period.
Hmm
Oct. 26th, 2011 at 2:36 am
If everyone at this protest were to file a class action lawsuit tomorrow, I bet you stuff like this wouldn’t keep happening.
ShadedPhoenix
Oct. 26th, 2011 at 6:14 am
Why does this remind me somehow of what my country is still demonized for…
(i am german, and the more i watch what happens over the sea, let me wonders where your austrian idiot hides)
SinghX
Oct. 26th, 2011 at 9:02 am
…”Premise Twelve: There are no rich people in the world, and there are no poor people. There are just people. The rich may have lots of pieces of green paper that many pretend are worth something—or their presumed riches may be even more abstract: numbers on hard drives at banks—and the poor may not. These “rich” claim they own land, and the “poor” are often denied the right to make that same claim. A primary purpose of the police is to enforce the delusions of those with lots of pieces of green paper. Those without the green papers generally buy into these delusions almost as quickly and completely as those with. These delusions carry with them extreme consequences in the real world.
Premise Thirteen: Those in power rule by force, and the sooner we break ourselves of illusions to the contrary, the sooner we can at least begin to make reasonable decisions about whether, when, and how we are going to resist…”
Derick Jensen’s “Endgame”
I’m not in reach of his text, but he does have a portion within a chapter where he discusses how law enforcement is there only to serve those with “the green stuff”…very interesting and accurate.
A Walkaway
Oct. 26th, 2011 at 11:21 am
That’s a known principle taught in sociology. Law enforcement serves to protect the interests of the elites and to keep the rest “in their place”.
It COULD be different, but that’s the reality on the ground.
My wife learned this when she was getting her BA in sociology. While they were discussing this, the professor related (and as I remember, cited copious sources) how Marijuana became unlawful. Basically, some rich men in California hated Mexicans (who at the time were about the only people who smoked cannabis), and one of them (Hearst) had a patent for a new way of making paper using pulpwood rather than hemp as a major ingredient. They used American racism to help get Cannabis banned… and since hemp IS cannabis, the growing of cannabis (for paper and cordage) was outlawed.
He got rich. Many farmers were forced to grow other crops… and poor people were impoverished as their main cash crop was denied them or destroyed. Mexicans found another strike against them.
All because of the greed and racism of a few rich men… who used the law (and law enforcement) for their benefit.
A Walkaway
Oct. 26th, 2011 at 11:22 am
Correction – as I remember her saying, cited copious sources.
SinghX
Oct. 26th, 2011 at 3:59 pm
But…have you ever read “Endgame” I or II? Most fear Jensen and label him as a radical; they fear his words more than they fear Micheal Moore…his books ain’t SOC101 by any means and good luck finding “Endgame II: Resistance” in any public library…
vendetta1313
Oct. 26th, 2011 at 1:42 pm
Ok, the police are decked out in all this gear JUST IN CASE SOMETHING DOES HAPPEN. Obviously nothing did happen since arrests were made WITHOUT INCIDENT. SO stop complaining about how “they used too much force” they are taking a lot of precautionary measures. The old America is dead, where people just took what given to them, and made it into something. Now, everyone thinks they are entitled to everything. Work hard, and you will end up ok. THis isnt the only time in the history of the US where the politicians are corrupt and the people in power abuse it, so why we are making occupyWallStreet into a big deal, I dont know.
SinghX
Oct. 26th, 2011 at 4:10 pm
…”“For us to maintain our way of living, we must tell lies to each other and especially to ourselves. The lies are necessary because, without them, many deplorable acts would become impossibilities.”…”
― Derrick Jensen, The Culture of Make Believe
You’re living proof that the “old America(n)” mind-set still exist; the “parade” just passed you by, brother.
Katpaw
Oct. 27th, 2011 at 4:47 am
Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable.
-JFK