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Paul Ryan Looked America In The Eye Today, and Completely Lied About the Sequester
Rep. Paul Ryan went on CNBC today, looked straight into the camera, and completely lied about the sequester to the American people.
On CNBC’s Squawk Box, Rep. Paul Ryan was asked if there is anything going on behind the scenes that could avert the sequester.
Ryan answered, “As you know, the sequester was designed to force action to deal with the deficit and debt. We passed a bill 300 days ago to deal with this. As recently as December the Senate still hasn’t done anything. So I do expect the sequester to take effect, because the Senate hasn’t acted, the president is around the country campaigning instead of governing. So I think what you’ll see happen next week is we will pass an appropriations Measure that gives the administration more flexibility.”
What Ryan didn’t bother to mention was that the bill that the House passed 300 days ago is no longer valid because that action occurred in the previous Congress. In order to replace the sequester, the House would have to pass a new bill. The problem is that John Boehner won’t allow any sequester replacement bills to come to the House floor for a vote.
For Paul Ryan, lies are like Lay’s potato chips. He can’t stop at just one. While complaining that Obama moved the goalposts, Ryan told this whopper, “The president got the largest tax increase in American history eight weeks ago. Now he’s trying to move the goal post and say instead of spending cuts which the sequester is, ‘I need a bunch of tax increases’ for this, as well to fuel more spending.”
Just like they claimed Obamacare was the biggest tax increase in history, Republicans like Ryan are now claiming that the tax hike on the wealthy is the largest in history. The truth is that Obamacare is the sixth largest tax increase since 1968. The tax increase on the wealthy was nowhere near the largest in modern history. According to the Treasury Department, the biggest tax increase in the modern era belongs to Republican hero Ronald Reagan. President Reagan’s 1982 tax increase was 25% larger than Obama’s.
Paul Ryan looked America in the idea today, and totally lied about the sequester. Ryan lied about how we got here. He lied about his own advocacy for, and role in the sequester. He couldn’t even tell the truth about why the House refuses to act to replace the sequester.
As Rep. Keith Ellison said while taking Sean Hannity to the woodshed on his own show, “The president is telling the truth.” In a nutshell, that’s the problem for Ryan and his fellow House Republicans. Obama is telling the truth, and all they can do to counter these facts is to repeat their empty lies.
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76 Responses to Paul Ryan Looked America In The Eye Today, and Completely Lied About the Sequester
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Kim
Feb. 28th, 2013 at 1:32 pm
Disgusting person!!
quave
Feb. 28th, 2013 at 1:47 pm
U guys are lying to the american people with these false statements. lets see if this post gets erased or not
djchefron(Moderator)
Feb. 28th, 2013 at 1:56 pm
I give your post a chance.Now where are the lies at?Dont be a dittohead, proove your assertions.
Carol
Feb. 28th, 2013 at 2:41 pm
You say where are the lies? The lies are spelled out and the truth told. Ryan is one of the biggest liars in the congress today. The bill or one of the bills he is so proud of is dead in the water. Any bills left on the table at the end of a House session is dead. All bills would have to be rewritten. The tax increase wasn’t really all increase..just allowing the old tax cuts to retire. The biggest lie..he cares about the country.
Sherron Pitts
Mar. 1st, 2013 at 3:19 am
Go to maddowblog.com..Rachel has lying and calls him on it. youtube also has clips of his lies.When the sequester was voted on,Paul took credit for it,after it didn’t work out well,he then blamed it on Obama..
Sharon
Mar. 1st, 2013 at 8:57 am
typical “strategy” for these lying weasels…
Jacqui Childs
Feb. 28th, 2013 at 2:41 pm
To quave,
The lies told by Paul Ryan and others in the Republican party are beyond any ever told by opposing parties. It is too bad people like you take what they say as fact. Run these stories through a Fact checker. Get a clue!!
D. Lowrey
Feb. 28th, 2013 at 2:47 pm
What part of when Ayn Rand Jr. opens his mouth isn’t a lie and what part of his BS do you swallow and stay delusional on?
julia patterson-massey
Feb. 28th, 2013 at 8:21 pm
bravo
julia patterson-massey
Feb. 28th, 2013 at 8:29 pm
i hope your reading some of the comments directed at your comments. can we say Open your baby -blues and clean out those ears and get the real picture of what is going on between congress and the people of this country. they are responsible for making the laws..the president does not go to the capitol and pass these bills that hurt the american people..put the blame where it should be. squarely on the shoulders of the congress..paul ryan, boehner, and other republicans are all about keeping the poor down..
djchefron(Moderator)
Feb. 28th, 2013 at 1:54 pm
His bill that he is so proud of. even faux call it a piece of toilet paper and thats an insult to toilet paper
Fact Check: Ryan budget plan doesn’t actually slash the budget
Read more: www.foxnews.com/politics/...
This is where we are at in this debacle.Lies, misinformation and propaganda from so called business channels.Goebbels would be proud
UncaJoe
Feb. 28th, 2013 at 3:29 pm
Fox News debunking a Republican… That’s almost as unbelievable as Wayne LaPierre calling for universal background checks.
Oh, wait… That happened too.
tv.msnbc.com/2013/02/04/b...
Shiva(Moderator)
Feb. 28th, 2013 at 6:40 pm
The ryan plan adds to the deficit.
www.foxnews.com/politics/...
www.forbes.com/sites/belt...
www.politifact.com/truth-...
DowneastDiva
Feb. 28th, 2013 at 3:22 pm
Has no one told this lying pig that his career is over? The entire party is in it’s death throes and rightfully so, hateful petty little men who can’t run on merit so they lie. I am ashamed to say they are Americans.
A. Nonymous
Feb. 28th, 2013 at 6:37 pm
Yes, the party is so dead that 3/4 of the state governments are Republican controlled, a number that increased in 2012.
math tutor
Feb. 28th, 2013 at 8:46 pm
www.nytimes.com/2012/11/2...
24 States will be republican, I believe that out of fifty States, 24 is not even half, sorry
Paul
Feb. 28th, 2013 at 9:16 pm
State governors are Rep. Because of redistricting
djchefron(Moderator)
Feb. 28th, 2013 at 9:20 pm
Redistricting has nothing to do with electing governors.You could blame it on low turnout in the case of NJ a crook Corzine but not redistricting
wes
Feb. 28th, 2013 at 11:51 pm
Paul
I hope you know that you cant redistrict a state. Your comment that republicans somehow redistricted a state so a republican can win is as stupid as saying that Obama is telling the truth about the Sequester. The house, senate and president all agreed to the sequester. Obama is lying that it is going to kill jobs. It is not a decrease to the budget. Obama will still be able to spend more money in 2013 than he did in 2012. There just isnt as much money as they wanted.
Shiva(Moderator)
Mar. 1st, 2013 at 12:04 am
No its not a lie. Over 700,000 will be lost.
If he is spending more, how is the deficit going down? You didnt know that did you
Shiva(Moderator)
Mar. 1st, 2013 at 12:16 am
“Paul I hope you know that you cant redistrict a state”
Its called gerrymandering and its common enough
Why are you posting here when you know nothing?
johannah99
Mar. 2nd, 2013 at 6:40 am
Wes, VA Republicans did just that this past January, in fact, when they pushed thru redistricting legislation in the absence of some Democrats who were attending Obama’s Inauguration….www.huffingtonpost.com/20...
Susan
Mar. 1st, 2013 at 8:45 am
And you can blame that on gerrymandering, because they can’t win an election fairly, they had to figure out a way to steal it. Loooove these so called “patriots”. They have no moral issues with stealing democracy.
Sharon
Mar. 1st, 2013 at 9:00 am
can you say “gerrymandering”?
Emelia
Mar. 2nd, 2013 at 5:23 am
It isn’t very hard to win, when you cheat the American people out of true elections.I mean look at Michigan’s Emergency Manager Law. Rick Snyder and the rest of his party aren’t just liars;they are also cheats and treasonists. District gerrymandering is a form of cheating!!!!
Shiva(Moderator)
Feb. 28th, 2013 at 3:25 pm
Since Ryan teamed up with Romney, he can’t tell the truth either. And then to mention Hannity in the same article simply tells me that there is a cadre of liars with almost anyone who is associated with the GOP
Ryan can’t be stupid enough to not know that a new Bill has to be passed, and that speaker Boehner will not allow that bill to be passed. Can he?
aspromised
Feb. 28th, 2013 at 3:44 pm
Boehner has repeated the same 3-bill lie every day this week. As usual, major media fail in not correcting the inaccuracy Ooooh that Liberal-biased media! Tsk tsk
Suzanne Longo
Feb. 28th, 2013 at 3:36 pm
He’s not called “Lying Ryan” for nothing.
j
Feb. 28th, 2013 at 4:00 pm
So what about the democratic bill that McConnell filibustered in the senate today – the sequester replacement bill.
Emelia
Mar. 2nd, 2013 at 5:26 am
It’s called strategy. Now they can bring it to the floor again. (DUH)
js
Feb. 28th, 2013 at 4:42 pm
How about the republican bill that was also filibustered. The WH is lying and was caught in there lies that’s why they attacked the messenger real professional dont you think
Shiva(Moderator)
Feb. 28th, 2013 at 4:55 pm
The Republican bill was invalid because it was passed in the last Congress. Speaker Boehner said he would not allow a vote on a new Bill. So there was no bill for the Senate to vote on.
The White House is not lying
A. Nonymous
Feb. 28th, 2013 at 6:32 pm
Obama has twice in the last month told the press he was actively working with Republicans to solve a problem, when Republicans hadn’t heard “boo” from him.
There’s clearly no point in the House passing a bill. The Senate and Obama will simply ignore it. There’s little point in negotiating; Obama will just keep asking for more, and his word isn’t worth a plug nickel. That’s how we got to this point.
Shiva(Moderator)
Feb. 28th, 2013 at 6:33 pm
No, thats not how we got to this point.
BTW, have you seen house republicans bringing the jobs bill up for a vote? Thats why we dont have enough jobs.
A. Nonymous
Feb. 28th, 2013 at 6:42 pm
We don’t have enough jobs because Obama continues to make it more and more expensive for companies to do business. The jobs bill was just more of the same pork that got us into this deficit mess in the first place.
Reagan, Clinton, and both Bushes were able to get things done when they had opposite-party control in Congress. Obama can’t because he is a poor leader, a poor negotiator, and completely untrustworthy.
Lest we forget, the sequester came about because Obama went back on an agreement to end the debt limit debate last year. Had he kept his word, we would have had a new spending bill in place and this wouldn’t be happening now.
Shiva(Moderator)
Feb. 28th, 2013 at 6:52 pm
That is pure BS. Obama has lowered taxes on small business several times.
” Lest we forget, the sequester came about because Obama went back on an agreement to end the debt limit ”
Pure garbage.
CBO said it would have created over 3 million jobs.
djchefron(Moderator)
Feb. 28th, 2013 at 7:31 pm
You have come on making these charges about what the President has done to hurt the economy but one thing I have not seen is evidence.Do you have any or just talking out your ass.See you can find anything on google.If I say Rudolph is into s & m and I google I get this img823.imageshack.us/img8...
See its not that hard.Provide the evidence or STFU
djchefron(Moderator)
Feb. 28th, 2013 at 6:43 pm
Their own propaganda known as faux disowned it.Why send something that you knew had no chance of passing just to say you did it.Have you read Paul Ryan’s budget?If not do it.It does not add up.Stop repeating talking points and do some research
Emelia
Mar. 2nd, 2013 at 5:44 am
Again where did you get your lack of information from? Repubs brought:46 abortion bills,113 religion bills,73 family relationship bills,36 marriage bills,72 gun bills and ZERO job bills. The repubs do not care for the working class or America. They were already bought and paid for by the wealthy.
Emelia
Mar. 2nd, 2013 at 5:28 am
Where do you get your information from. New congress, new biils. Come on!!!Same repub bologna!!
Mary Staley
Feb. 28th, 2013 at 5:20 pm
It must be that Republicans up for re-election next year don’t really want to be re-elected. Otherwise, they would have gotten up off their holy asses, defied Boner, and voted that House sequester bill that the drunk didn’t want voted on anyway. They are all teapublican, lying, greedy, worthless garbage. Unamerican treasonous traitors!
julia patterson-massey
Feb. 28th, 2013 at 8:35 pm
thank you!!!!!!
A. Nonymous
Feb. 28th, 2013 at 6:27 pm
How did Ryan lie? The House did pass a bill that the Senate ignored. The President has been running around the country making speeches. He won’t meet with lawmakers until tomorrow, and that just because his press secretary was caught lying to the press about his involvement.
So Boehner won’t allow a vote on another bill for the Senate to ignore. At this point, he’s probably done with trying to work with the Dems because it gets him nowhere. He compromises and compromises and all they do is renege on what they’ve already agreed and ask for more and more taxes.
Obama doesn’t want to work out a deal. He doesn’t want to cut spending. He doesn’t want to reform entitlements. When he says anything to that effect, he is lying.
Shiva(Moderator)
Feb. 28th, 2013 at 6:35 pm
Why does the president have to meet with the house? It is the job of the congress to do the budget
Ryan lied beucase he knew his bill was passed, he also knew it wouldnt get to the senate. He lied when he said a bill had been passed but he never mentioned it was invalid becuase of the new congress. Then Boehner said he would not allow any votes to stop the sequester.
You dont seem to pay attention.
The Ryan plan would have raped you. Yet you love it.
No Such
Feb. 28th, 2013 at 8:37 pm
Republicans reached across the aisle and got THEIR hands bit? There’s a huge crock of revisionist history. The main reason a lot of things DIDN’T get done when Congress and the White House were controlled by the Dems was Obama insisted on trying to come thru with his campaign promise of “changing the tone/culture in Washington”, and repeatedly got burned for it. Remember, Obama really wanted a single-payer system like most other industrial nations, but the Repubs insisted “oh no, we can’t destroy insurance companies and have big government death panels instead” (like insurance companies didn’t decide when you weren’t profitable to treat). Then it turned around that the resultant legislation was “all Obama’s fault”. Revisionist history. And it’s only one example.
So now Obama seems to have learned his lesson, a bit late, but there it is. The NeanderCons only understand political machinations and are forced to compromise due to more unpleasant alternatives. Secretly, I bet the White House really DOES want the sequester to go into full force, because here’s the truth of the matter: this will be a real world example of what the Tea Baggers want. This IS the face of less government. People getting poisoned by the food they eat, essential services shutting down, a second-rate military, and retirees going broke.
Choppman68
Mar. 1st, 2013 at 12:11 pm
I have read yours and a few others comments and, all you have done is spew the SAME BS FOX approved talking points which have NO basis in reality or, MATH. You claim the reason we have no jobs is taxes, well wrong again. The GOP run around saying the corp tax rate is 35%, while that is technically true, the fact of the matter is corps. actually PAY on avg UNDER 14%! Just like the tax rates on the wealthy, once they get all of their loopholes and deductions, guys like Romney and other wealthy people pay under 15% and it was reported that if he would have claimed all that he COULD have on the year he DID release, he would have paid under 10% on income of 20 MILLION dollars!
Meanwhile, my wife, a school teacher, paid 24%! Then you speak of “entitlement” cuts, and I will assume that like most of the bobbleheads on the right, your talking about SS and Medicare. Sorry, those “entitlements” were paid for ny EVERY working American in this nation, its not an “entitlement” its OUR money! Also, nearly 2.5 TRILLION of the debt is owed to SS which, the raping of, was started by guess who? Thats right good ol’ Ronnie ” Friedman” Reagan! You see, that “hero of the right” may be the WORST POTUS ( other than Dubya ) this nation has ever seen! He was an ardent follower of that idiot Milton Friedman, the godfather of supply side economics. We had 12 years of that from 80-92, then another 8 years from 2000-08 and what was the result? BOTH times ended in financial ruin primarily CAUSED by the Friedman economic model of deregulation which gave the wealthy free reign with NO checks and balances in place to curb their corruption.
You see, Ryan, Kantor and the rest of these Ayn Rand admirer’s are spewing the SAME old GOP philosophy of the last 30 years and they, and apparently you A non, have yet to figure out that supply side economics ONLY benefits the wealthy. I don’t love Obama because I think he is to FAR right on many things and, he has proposed bills and legislation which the GOP have traditionally supported and yet they reject him every time, which tells me that there is more to their obstruction than policy difference. If your going to come to a progressive site, and try to argue, may I suggest you at least come armed with a few facts as opposed to tired old GOP talking points?
Emelia
Mar. 2nd, 2013 at 5:51 am
Well said! Well said!!
SCOTT
Mar. 7th, 2013 at 3:24 pm
YOUR COMMENTS ARE JUST IGNORANT.
Thank god in less than 2 years we can rid this country of all the tea bagges and republicans
dtwhitehouse
Feb. 28th, 2013 at 7:29 pm
the president, on more than one occasion invited them to come and talk to him. instead they went on a 10 day vacation and have worked a total of 17 out of the past 59 days. congress works for their billionairre corp bosses, not america. keep listening to fauxnews though cuz they are “fair and balanced” lol.
Harvey Goldman
Feb. 28th, 2013 at 7:40 pm
They should publish a story too where Dianne Feinstein looks America in the eye and tell us that gun control is for our own good and it works to reduce crime. She would be lying of course.
Shiva(Moderator)
Feb. 28th, 2013 at 7:41 pm
Gun control good, gun nuts need to have their weapons taken away
That is gun nuts as opposed to normal people who own guns
Chris
Feb. 28th, 2013 at 7:44 pm
So Bob Woodward and Lanny Davis were lying about the shenanigans the Administration is behind regarding the sequester? Come on be honest…this kind of article is not real journalism and is why there is such distrust of media…be honest, the lies are coming out of the White House.
Shiva(Moderator)
Feb. 28th, 2013 at 7:45 pm
Seeing as you are changing the subject, are you saying Ryan didnt lie?
djchefron(Moderator)
Feb. 28th, 2013 at 7:46 pm
Did limpballs just signed off?Because it seems you havent been keeping up?Now go read and then come back.Sheesh,the things we have to go through.
Chris
Feb. 28th, 2013 at 8:09 pm
Don’t get me wrong, I undestand you guys want to make your guy look good by hand picking treasury department statistics about Reagan being the great taxing machine (The same man who brought the top marginal rates from 70 to 28% while at the same time increasing revenues to the fed) doesn’t hold water. As far a Ryan is concerned I didn’t bother bringing this up in my last post because any sane person who saw Keith Ellison’s showdown with Hannity and thought this was a positive thing, isn’t going to get in anyway. Fellas, keep telling yourself what you want to hear but I don’t think the rest of the country is buying it.
Shiva(Moderator)
Feb. 28th, 2013 at 8:15 pm
Reagan didnt increase revenues any more then any other president. One thing he did do is spend far more then he took in. Reagan tried to starve the government
No comparison to Ryan and Ellison. Thats hilarious.
www.taxpolicycenter.org/t...
djchefron(Moderator)
Feb. 28th, 2013 at 8:22 pm
The myth of Reagan will not die and I will give credit to the right for what they did to enhance his legacy.Just today I read this story How Reagan Promoted Genocide consortiumnews.com/2013/0... and there was nothing in the media about it.The cult of Reagan is strong and no matter what the evidence their belief in the man will not be shaken
Emelia
Mar. 2nd, 2013 at 5:56 am
Reagan raised taxes 11 times. Nine that were aimed at the Middleclass. Do repubs study Economics or even basic math anymore? They sure in the heck don’t study history!!!
julia patterson-massey
Feb. 28th, 2013 at 8:40 pm
i love you guys..our moderators…keep up the commentary, maybe some of these naysayers will get a clue..<3
Shiva(Moderator)
Feb. 28th, 2013 at 9:05 pm
Actually most of them come, make their statement and run.
Clif
Feb. 28th, 2013 at 8:47 pm
Not a penny added to the deficit.
No tax increase for anyone making less than $200K.
Transparency in government.
Reaching out to work with Republicans.
I think we all know where the fountain of lies starts!!!
Shiva(Moderator)
Feb. 28th, 2013 at 9:06 pm
Yep. Most of it starts with the Koch brothers, then speaker boehner, then eric cantor
We do remember boehner saying he refudiates the word compromise right?
Eric
Feb. 28th, 2013 at 9:27 pm
Good God people.
All modern day politicians lie and all their bills add to the deficit and you are all being asked to give more, in one tax/gov’t fee or another. Heck a $9.99 extra phone cost $15. 50% tax. A lot of them are hidden. Both parties blow… the deficit keeps growing no matter who is in charge. They are pretty much one in the same. One party makes a stink to take your eye off the ball. While the other goes about adding to the deficit and the rest of you fight with each other. In many ways it’s a brilliant con being played on all of us.
majii
Mar. 1st, 2013 at 1:26 am
Riight!
*It was the republicans who fought for the permanent tax cut for the middle class and the poor, wasn’t it, Eric?
*It was the republicans who got DADT repealed, wasn’t it, Eric?
*It was the republicans who advocated for raising
taxes on the richest Americans to decrease the deficit, wasn’t it, Eric?
*It was the republicans who willingly voted to extend unemployment benefits for unemployed Americans, wasn’t it, Eric?
*It was the democrats who wasted $50+ million of our tax dollars trying to repeal Obamacare, wasn’t it, Eric?
*It was President Obama who signed the Medicare Part D bill, the bills to fund two wars, and signed the Bush tax cuts into law without paying for any of them, wasn’t it, Eric?
False equivalencies only work if one is willing to lie to oneself.
Game of Life
Mar. 1st, 2013 at 1:23 am
If any fool believes that both parties are the same is probably a gop with wishful thoughts.
Also gop are the ones lying about the sequester. The WH has been very opened and honest. Too bad the msm can’t cover the truth or call out gop lies lest they be called liberal.
The gop are a sneaky lying bunch. LIES LIES LIES this is why they won’t be in the WH for the next 20 years.
majii
Mar. 1st, 2013 at 1:29 am
I think it’s a cop out some use to avoid facing the truth, and/or because there’s some other politician, like Ron Paul, who has a snowball’s chance in Hades of ever being POTUS that they like. They’re definitely not looking at the same reality that we are, GoL.
Callum
Mar. 1st, 2013 at 8:38 am
Its seems like a lie to most rational people, but bear in mind, he (and his supporters) absolutely believes he is telling the truth. He has rewired his brain to look at the world differently and has all kinds of mental crutches to prop him up and dismiss and minimize those who criticize him.
Alex
Mar. 1st, 2013 at 9:55 pm
That’s probably the case…that he’s in his own reality. But I’m in my own reality as well…and consider his views the views of an unfeeling, hateful, egotistical conservative ass clown. And he would consider my views as uninformed lib-rad nonsense. Imagine me thinking that poor people and the downtrodden need a safety net…and that we should all pay for it. What nonsense, he would say. The difference is I’ve been “there” for a time and it ain’t pretty. Nobody wants to live like that…nobody. I’ve gained some humility and checked my ego, and he hasn’t. But that’s life…
Choppman68
Mar. 1st, 2013 at 12:26 pm
The saddest part of all of this to me is the fact that basically, 43 Congressmen are holding the entire nation hostage. These tea party fools who prove every time they open their mouths that most of them skipped civics class in high school and weren’t any better at math, have taken the GOP hostage because the ones who would compromise, are terrified of getting primaried in their district. Its not that they have better ideas than the moderate repubs. they just are able to raise more money from the most extremist billionaires like the Koch bros.
The GOP can’t stand the fact that the American people have rejected their tired policies and bigotry for the last 2 elections. They see their party becoming more irrelevant every year as the demographics in this country change. Thats why we are seeing this attack on the voting rights act, and all of these red states trying to rig elections in any and every way possible. Their party is dying on the vine and, in place of getting with the times, they hang onto their tired old rhetoric. You can’t be anti-EVERYTHING but rich old white guys and expect to win majority in this country going forward.
All of that said, the democrats BETTER turn out in record numbers in 2014 and get the house back before these idiots completely destroy this Country
Ashen Shugar
Mar. 1st, 2013 at 5:42 pm
From what I could google, it seems the previous congress ended early January this year. Which would mean that in the December he mentioned, the bill passed “300″ days ago would still have been valid. That it is no longer valid doesn’t change the fact that it *had* been valid and that the senate didn’t act then. You can make a point that he was being misleading, but unless there was more he said that wasn’t quoted, he wasn’t actually *lying* and now it’s this article that’s being misleading by making is seem he was saying that the 300 day old bill was still available to be acted on by the senate when from what was quoted, he was just saying that it *had* been available.
djchefron(Moderator)
Mar. 1st, 2013 at 5:48 pm
Have you read the ryan budget?Even faux called it bull.If someone wants to sell you a bag of magic beans you would still buy them?
Fact Check: Ryan budget plan doesn’t actually slash the budget
Read more: www.foxnews.com/politics/...
Shiva(Moderator)
Mar. 1st, 2013 at 6:23 pm
The catholic church called it BS
Dondura Miller
Mar. 1st, 2013 at 5:44 pm
I love the republican comedy party..come on guys!! This is the craziest bunch yet and they STILL have not figured out how social medial works..bet they think most folks use the paper yellow pages too. Until they have even less ditto heads and sheeple voting them back in office..over and over again..nothing is going to change.
kelly
Mar. 1st, 2013 at 6:44 pm
come on, we’re talking about paul ryan here. only people not smart enough to be of any help believe anything he says. seriously here’s a litmus test to know whether or not you are an idiot: do you support paul ryan? you’re an idiot.
Ashen Shugar
Mar. 2nd, 2013 at 3:30 am
Is Paul Ryan a liar? Is his budget all form and no substance? That could well be true. But I don’t see anything impressive about matching him with intellectual dishonesty. This article is supposedly out to show that Paul Ryan lied, yet starts out by implying that he was being deceitful when he said the house had passed a bill 300 days ago because that bill was from the previous congress and no longer valid. That it is no longer valid doesn’t change the fact that it *had* been valid, and that the senate hadn’t done anything with it. I suppose we could be generous and just put that down to the writers lack of comprehension rather than a deliberate attempt to make Paul Ryan appear dishonest.
The article also isn’t too clear about exactly how Paul Ryan lied in regards to the creation of the sequestration. From the links I’ve read, I’m guessing the idea is that it’s because he’s said that the sequestration is not good government, yet was also involved in setting it up in the first place. Yet to get that he lied from that is a bit of a stretch. That he wanted it in place doesn’t necessarily mean that he wanted it to come into effect. Now, if he’s said somewhere that he was against the sequestration being put in place originally when he hadn’t been, then there would be a clear lie, yet why didn’t this article say as much instead of just saying that he’d lied and expecting us to take it’s word that he’d lied about something or other.
The only clear lies this article mentions could be seen more as white lies. They’re hyperbole, exaggerations. And actually, reading the articles linked, they may be less lies and more misrepresentations of the facts. Admittedly not a polite thing to do either. While comparing taxes by simple dollar value instead of as a percentage of the GDP doesn’t give an accurate picture of them, it’s not strictly speaking lying to say they’re the largest *IF* the simple dollar value is the largest even though the %/GDP may not be. Now *that* would be a perfectly honest thing to report about. If Paul Ryan used misleading numbers, that would be a good thing for a journalist to point out. This article just seems to be trying to make him look like a bald faced liar by any means possible and the more times I read it and the articles it links to, the less impressed I am by the job it’s doing of it.
Paul Ryan may well be spawn of the devil, but upon a logical appraisal, this article does next to nothing to prove it.
John Camera
Mar. 8th, 2013 at 5:08 pm
1) Y’know what tics me off more than almost anything?!! Nobody on national news programs, political interviews, Meet the Press, Face the Nation, the McLaughlin Group, none of these “appointed” journalists or quasi-political “news” programs ever exposes Republican spokesmen for their lies, nor even challenges them with a “hard” second question.
2) I sometimes watch Fox “News” because it’s like watching the Three Stooges–humor that comes from ineptitude and, in the case of Fox, the greatest minds of the 13th century.
3) I watch Rachel Maddow but recently it just makes me angry when she talks about political realities that, again, nobody seems to be doing anything about! (Return to paragraph 1.)