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Personhood USA Threatens Ohioans With God’s Wrath if They Do Not Obey
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And God so loved persons that he never met one he wouldn’t love to destroy through fire or catastrophic human salinization. Just ask the folks at Personhood USA.
We’ve seen it all over the past few years, the semi-incoherent prophesying of lunatic Christian conservatives, acting like deranged hermits who have hid themselves away in the desert too long with only their locust and honey for company, and probably for sex. It’s really a mess, as you would expect, given the apparently condition of their minds.
It’s all Old Testament stuff; you know the racket – no Jesus anywhere – lots of wrath and ruin and pretty much the same shtick the Jewish priests used after the return from Babylon to bully the Jewish people into monotheism. Except it wasn’t God doing the ruination – it was men waving their religion like a cudgel.
Well, Right Wing Watch has uncovered a whopper from Personhood USA; it seems they have thrown sanity out the window. Look what they have to say to the people of Ohio if they do not get their personhood amendment on the ballot:
The Bible is clear that God’s curse resides upon the land where innocent people are killed without justice. (See Numbers 35:30-34, Jeremiah 18:7-10, Proverbs 6:16-17, Psalm 9:17, Jeremiah 7:5-7, Isaiah 1:15-17.) God is longsuffering, but sooner or later, judgment will fall on a land that sheds innocent blood.
Numbers 35:30-34 tells us that when innocent blood is shed in the land, the land is “defiled” and “polluted” and only justice can cleanse it. In Deuteronomy 21:1-9, we are taught that the curse of innocent blood falls upon the community nearest the crime. This curse can only be lifted through the dissemination of justice. It is the local community where the assault has been committed that is ultimately responsible for punishing assailants to protect the innocent.
Ultimately, Ohioans have no business pointing our fingers at the Supreme Court, the U.S. Congress, or the abortion advocates entrenched in political parties for the shedding of innocent blood that Ohio allows. The federal government’s jurisdiction is limited by the Constitution, which only grants the feds jurisdiction over three crimes: piracy, counterfeiting, and treason. Criminal justice is a local matter. God’s wrath abides on Ohio for the innocent blood that has been shed in our state, and God obligates Ohio to do justice to protect the innocent from assault and murder, and thereby purge our land from the guilt of innocent blood. Until there is justice for the preborn, there will be no lasting mercy for us.
In 1857, the Supreme Court declared that an African American slave named Dred Scott was not a man, but the property of his owner. Over two million slaves perished on the ships headed for American ports. Millions were brutalized under the American slave trade. What followed soon after the 1857 Supreme Court decision was a Civil War that resulted in the deaths of 620,000 American lives.
The Nuremberg Laws were passed in Germany in 1935, declaring Jews to be non-persons. By the end of World War 2 in 1945, 6.5 to 8.8 million German civilians and soldiers had been killed in combat.
When Israel began to sacrifice innocent children to idols under King Manasseh, God promised judgment was coming. God was longsuffering, but within four generations of Manasseh, judgment finally came. Assyria conquered the Jews, slaughtered most of them, and carried off the survivors in chains to a life of slavery. Isaiah told them why: “Your hands are full of blood” and their cities were full of “murderers” (Isaiah 1:15, 21). Jeremiah told them why: they filled their land with “the blood of innocents” (Jeremiah 2:24 & 19:4). Hosea told them why: they were “polluted with blood” (Hosea 6:8). Joel told them why: “They have shed innocent blood in their land” (Joel 3:19). Ezekiel told them why: “Thou art become guilty in the blood that thou hast shed (Ezekiel 22:24). They continued to “slay the souls that should not die, and to save the souls alive that should not live” (Ezekiel 13:19).
God promises judgment upon every nation that sins against him (Jeremiah 18:7-10; Psalm 9:17). For every two children conceived in Ohio, one is aborted. Almost half a million Ohioans have been slaughtered in Ohio’s abortion clinics the first decade of this century.
Those who do not learn from history are bound to repeat it.
Honestly, the Bible is full of all kinds of crazy stuff, much of which cannot be proven by way of the archaeological record. A lot of it has, in fact, turned out to be lies and mythology, “history as it should have been” in the words of two Jewish archaeologists.[1] There is in fact no evidence at all that “God” has destroyed anything in all of history – none. Not a shred of evidence. Other than their say-so, we have no evidence he’s ever even threatened to destroy anything. I mean, let’s face it: the Iliad and the Odyssey are as likely to be factual as the Bible. You sure can’t privilege one over the other on the basis of historical fact.
With so much of their holy book demonstrably bunk, it would be surprising if anything at all happened to the people of Ohio or to any other state in the union. So I have just this to say in response:
Well, we sure learned our lesson, alright. We have learned from history; have you? We’ve watched you lunatics bring fire and slaughter to people after people over thirty centuries of history and doggone it if we’re going to let you do it to us and to our children. We’ve had enough of your insane religious beliefs. Live how you will and think how you will, but the Constitution promises us the government can’t make your religion – or any religion – the law of the land. So be sure we will fight you. You’ve destroyed enough lives in your God’s name.
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[1] Israel Finkelstein and Neil Asher Silberman The Bible Unearthed (NY: The Free Press, 2001), 249. Israel Finkelstein is Professor of Archaeology at Tel Aviv University and director of the Sonia and Marco Nadler Institute of Archaeology. He is also co-director of the archaelogical dig at Megiddo. Neil Asher Silberman is director of the Ename Center for Public Archaeology and Heritage Presentation in Belgium.
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Brown cow
Oct. 4th, 2011 at 8:21 am
Just don’t get the whole “god bringing wrath upon a nation for shedding the blood of innocents”. When a whole nation got destroyed, didn’t innocent babies/children die too ? And why didn’t god just save those innocents that got their blood shed ? Some god he was.
Alfreda
Oct. 4th, 2011 at 8:50 am
Was wondering what their stance on same sex marriage is.
Shiva (Moderator)
Oct. 4th, 2011 at 9:04 am
It’s almost like I commented yesterday on God needing an Army. What for? To bring his wrath down on human beings? Seems to me if he is a God he could do that with the blink of an eye. There isn’t much love coming from the God of the Old Testament. Just as there is so much love coming from these people in the personhood movement. In fact none of these Reformation groups show much love for anything except money.
Just trying to keep their quiver full. Giving the people something to hold onto while the organization reaches for power and influence.
A Walkaway
Oct. 4th, 2011 at 10:41 am
“Honestly, the Bible is full of all kinds of crazy stuff, much of which cannot be proven by way of the archaeological record.”
True, but some parts of the Bible have been supported, even as others have been disproved. A reasonable explanation is that the writers of the Old Testament were taking different stories of events and putting them into a narrative with a message; which I’ve read arguments that the narrative was a justification for the existence of the Jewish people as a separate people from those around them.
BTW… the more we find, it does look like the Iliad and Odyssey had a lot of truth in it. Some parts… of course mythic. I’m beginning to think that some (if not most) of the Greek/Roman “Gods” were actually famous kings in prehistory – early history who got turned into myths.
Anyway,
This shit echoes the sort of stuff I remember hearing from the pulpit all the time. God’s wrath. God’s anger. God always punishing people, even for just making a mistake. God loving scam artists and hating their victims. I grew up with that crap, although it was a bit watered down and coming from a mainstream church (Methodist). I got heavy and continuous doses of it through the three years I was Pentecostal. I got the watered-down version again in the Episcopal church. It now turns my stomach and I want nothing to do with a “God” like that – and I think even as the writers of the OT used “God” to justify evil and genocide, so do I believe that the “Good Christians” have gotten it completely wrong and for the same reason (along with most of the churches).
Shiva (Moderator)
Oct. 4th, 2011 at 10:59 am
where has this guy been for the last 2000 years? I don’t remember reading anything in the Bible or the Constitution that God would stop talking to people. But given that God is so wrathful, There is a very good chance he will be talking to people like personhood USA.
neil
Oct. 4th, 2011 at 11:29 am
God wants you to obey his commandments if you don’t he will send you to burn in hell for eternity but he loves you and he needs money.Paraphrased but thanks to George Carlin.
Hrafnkell Haraldsson
Oct. 4th, 2011 at 11:30 am
One of Carlin’s best routines.
ProChoiceGrandma
Oct. 4th, 2011 at 11:37 am
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In actuality, if you want to take the nearly 2000 year old Bible literally as God speaking, it seems God actually approves of inducing a miscarriage/abortion. Take a look at Numbers 5:11-31. God says that if a husband suspects his wife has been unfaithful, she is to be given “bitter waters” to induce a miscarriage:
Numbers 5:27 And when he has made her drink the water, then, if she has defiled herself and has acted unfaithfully against her husband, the (bitter) water that brings the curse shall enter into her and cause bitter pain, and her body shall swell, and her thigh shall fall away, and the woman shall become an execration (curse or swearword) among her people.
The GOP/TeaParty’s most useful rabble-rousing tool is anti-choice rhetoric to win the votes of the simple-minded folks who obediently parrot theocratic babble verses from nearly 2000 years ago when the world was flat.
The “pro-life” folks simply want to impose FORCED BIRTH in every circumstance, whether the pregnancy was caused by rape, incest, or faulty birth control methods.
ProChoiceGrandma
Oct. 4th, 2011 at 11:44 am
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“Religion is like a penis…It’s fine to have one. It’s fine to be proud of it. But please don’t whip it out in public and start waving it around. And PLEASE don’t try to shove it down my children’s throats.”
Shiva (Moderator)
Oct. 4th, 2011 at 12:06 pm
LOL
Hrafnkell Haraldsson
Oct. 4th, 2011 at 1:11 pm
A friend of mine had that posted on FB the other day – I laughed and laughed. Very timely, ProChoiceGrandma!
Snooze Hamilton
Oct. 4th, 2011 at 2:01 pm
(high five)
SinghX
Oct. 4th, 2011 at 5:34 pm
I laughed and laughed and laughed…!
And, was not tempted to make one fart joke (I’m trying folks, to discipline myself this week; no fart jokes about fundamentalist who trounce on others rights especially on issues of sex)!
Chairman
Oct. 4th, 2011 at 12:53 pm
Is there a link on www.personhoodusa.com to this? I don’t think Personhood USA wrote this.
Snooze Hamilton
Oct. 4th, 2011 at 2:01 pm
These guys are kinda ignoring 1 Samuel 15, where YHWH commands Saul to “attack the Amalekites and totally destroy everything that belongs to them. Do not spare them; put to death men and women, children and infants, cattle and sheep, camels and donkeys.’”, ya think?
That aside, Generational Guilt is a ridiculously unjust concept in itself, as it amounts to punishing someone(s)for the actions of another. I owe no respect to any idea of deity or follower of such who would endorse such a thing, especially when you consider that if the original criminal is long dead, one would supposedly have to carry out this idea of “justice” on some descendant who may never even have met his ancestor.
I also owe no respect for anyone who makes his own god his bitch in order to support a political power play.
Hrafnkell Haraldsson
Oct. 4th, 2011 at 2:07 pm
Well put, Snooze.
DannyEastVillage
Oct. 4th, 2011 at 3:01 pm
Wonder how Personhood USA feels Operation Shock & Awe.
SinghX
Oct. 4th, 2011 at 5:59 pm
Historians know that during the period of 800-700 B.E.C. there were two different writers with two different sets of “facts” used to record the stories about the Old Testament. According to these scholars, one scribe emphasized god as “Yahweh”; he was born on the “south side” (Judah) and put his own “emphasis” on his main-man being Abraham, not Moses. The other writer never mentions Yahweh’s covenant with Abraham but saw his relative Jacob as more important and that Moses was really the prophet of Eolhim…and the fact, the irony is, neither one were the original composers! This death by dogma is all about getting people to fear consequences..but who gave them authority to lie at any cost without consequences?
Bottom line, these “stories” that were turned into the tales of the Old Testament were meant to help people understand, cope, create meaning in life, not factual historic paths that all must march upon or be cast off as evil sinners…
Watching these “Personhood” people mix modern, factual rationale and timeless unchanging spiritual mythos together as a political “game plan” to “win” all the marbles on behalf of a sky-god is so, so anti-human! Mixing slavery trade with Hitler’s genocide and then, tying it all together with aborting a clump of cells that have a 50/50 chance of survival within their natural course is beyond mental boundaries; it is emotional diarrhea.
Both spiritual/secular have their place and their job; we do not live well without both to keep us in balance. Blending these two (mythos/rationale thinking) is like mixing two explosive chemical as a way to deal with disagreement with your neighbors; such despair and disaster.
Jim Faubel
Oct. 8th, 2011 at 3:04 pm
How come the “Right to Lifers” have so little interest in protecting the life of those of us who have already been born?