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The Preamble Is Gone But the Enslavement in FAMiLY LEADER Pledge Remains
Yesterday I promised myself that I would not, under any circumstances, touch the “African Americans were better off as slaves” FAMiLY LEADER pledge. Someone else would do it. I would watch Katharine Hepburn movies and forget about the Teapublicans for a few hours. I bit my lip listening to this belief being passed off as a gaffe, a misunderstanding, another stupidity. Our chattering class does not hail from the Deep South, apparently. But then, early this morning, after some well articulated outrage, the FAMiLY LEADER removed this preamble to their pledge, claiming their language regarding slavery had been “misconstrued.” Not so fast.
Republicans Rep. Michele Bachmann and Sen. Rick Santorum signed the pledge from Iowa’s conservative FAMiLY LEADER group that included the following:
“Slavery had a disastrous impact on African-American families, yet sadly a child born into slavery in 1860 was more likely to be raised by his mother and father in a two-parent household than was an African-American baby born after the election of the USA’s first African-American President.”
Not only is this wildly inaccurate and so obscenely offensive as to render most thinking people aghast and ashamed, but the source the pledge is based upon was not even referring to slavery. Nate Silver tweeted that they sourced this egregious comparison with a paper referring to 1880-1910 time period entitled: “The Consequences of Marriage for African Americans: A Comprehensive Literature Review.”
Perhaps they should have investigated their source before using it to justify why some people shouldn’t be free. This smacks of the “They’re children” justifications of the Civil War era, and it’s important to get to the bottom of the extreme conservative Christian beliefs that led to putting such a preamble in a pledge that Presidential candidates are being asked to sign. Removal of this section does not necessarily equate with an understanding of why it was so offensive, in fact, given the explanation, “…we agree that the statement referencing children born into slavery can be misconstrued…” it’s evident that we need more dialogue on this issue rather than less.
We recall that African American slaves were often not allowed to marry as they couldn’t enter contracts. Their families were split apart at the whim of their owner. The women were often raped by their white master. They did not have a “household”, they had a rickety shack as far away from the manor as possible.
Many people were kind enough to correct Michele, Rick and the FAMiLY LEADER gang, and perhaps chalk it up to more propaganda. The push back was so intense that this morning the FAMiLY LEADER removed this section from their odious pledge. But what they should understand is that these folks believe this revised history. Yes, they believe this because the far right conservative Christian movement is so suffused in the roots of Southern resentment that the Republican Tea Party candidates should just run under the confederate flag. You don’t have to be from the South to embrace the inevitable result of white resentment, now packaged under the banner of the Tea Party and sold as praise for Jesus.
Michele Bachmann and Rick Santorum believe that African Americans were better under slavery, and they’re not alone. Much of the Old South believes that. They mourn for the good old days of happy plantation families and are incredulous when African Americans do not share their sweet tea reminiscences. Imagine not missing languid summer days on a high front porch overlooking a bounty of nature, intoxicated by gentle breezes drenched with mingling Jasmine and Sweet Tea trees while happy slaves fan you and your company to keep the heavy tropical heat at bay. Yes, that was just the white people on that porch, but what’s your problem? Those were the good old days.
Things are never simple in this life, and in order to really grasp the history between the owned and the free in the South, you’d have to live there for a while. It isn’t as simple as saying whites hate blacks and blacks hate whites. There is a deep connection and sense of family in many parts of the Old South with which both sides struggle.
But the thing that continues to separate the two is that too often white people refuse to see why the past is so painful for their African American relatives and friends. And into this void, the Tea Party Christians like Michele Bachmann and Rick Santorum step, embracing the surface Southern charm and grace of the privileged while pretending concern for people who “perhaps can’t look out for themselves”. And it’s easy for white people who want to believe this to convince themselves of it, because African Americans in the deep South have not, as a group, attained economic equality with their white brethren.
Too often, the white descendants of slave owners (and by proxy, many non-plantation owning whites) are unable to admit that their family lived the high life on the back of the pain and suffering of hundreds of human beings, and so they deny this and replace this truth with their family legacies of kindness and love. Yes, I’m sure there were kind slave owners – but given the facts, given human nature and the inherent problems with absolute power, it is illogical to deduce that one’s family’s slaves were not mistreated. And even if they convince themselves that the cruelty was unintentional, how do they avoid the reality that they owned other human beings and so, stole their liberty and freedom? It’s inescapable, and yet in those days the South was grand for the privileged, and facing the modern day slide into poverty, perhaps it’s too easy to cling to vestiges of old glory.
If you’re not from the South or don’t live there or have family who sorted through these deeply conflicting and bitterly contested myths of the Old South, it may be easy to either think that Bachmann, Santorum and the extremist conservative Christians they represent are merely ignorant and/or bigoted. But imagine the danger that comes from being willing to deny humanity in order to create your own Heaven (the Gone With the Wind siren calls to a supposedly genteel society). Think about what it means for the human race when we are unwilling to face our own capacity for and indulgence of cruelty. Denial forces us to gloss over reality and make it OK to do what we did.
That is the real problem with historical revisionism and with refusing to examine the fact that in this country, we deliberately stole people from their home country, brought them here to be our slaves, and treated them like objects instead of human beings. Years later, we can’t separate ourselves from one another; many of the descendants of slaves are now related to the white descendants of the plantation owners. Healing is too often hindered by proximity, economic disparity, and the failure to completely confess and own the damage.
A documentary entitled Moving Midway spoke to the complexity and pain inherent in this relationship and the surrounding contested myths about slavery, a well as the unintentional cruelty resulting from the white descendants’ refusal to believe that their family was abusive to their slaves. They can’t reconcile this with the family they remember with love, and so they have to deny it psychologically. In the process of moving Midway Plantation, the Hinton cousins meet. The Hinton cousins are, of course, both the white descendants and the mixed race descendants of the Master and slaves.
Here’s the trailer to “Moving Midway”:
The cousins meet and the following exchanges take place:
“I always knew there were many black Hintons and that we might be connected by blood.”
“I have the pleasure of knowing that what used to be Hinton plantation will soon be covered in asphalt and mud.”
“Well surely you can’t like that.”
“Yes, because nothing significant will ever grow there again.”
“Well why is that good?”
“That’s good because my folks did the growing.”
“I’m sure there were places where slaves were mistreated, but somehow I don’t feel like that’s the case because everyone in your family and mine is so kind.”
“If all men are created equal how can you own 3 or 400 of them? You say, well, they’re not really men, so it’s OK for me to own them.”
“I was hoping he’d be someone I wouldn’t like.”
The African American cousins struggle with the fact that they like their white cousins in spite of the pain of their shared history, while the white cousins struggle to grasp why their African American cousins don’t share their reverence for the family plantation. While the Old South is marinated in racism, it is also a place where our roots are preserved and honored, and where family and friends matter. This family meeting demonstrates the ability for proximity to promote love in spite of a failure to understand. In spite of open sore tenderness, the mercy of humanity wins out face to face.
Into this delicate tangle, steps the modern day Tea Party, ramping up the white resentment and holding emotional candlelight vigils for the lost good old days.
To suggest that slaves were better off than African Americans under President Obama is to suggest that freedom, liberty, and dignity are irrelevant for certain classes of people as well as races. This is a common whispered belief in the Old South; the African Americans were better off when they had a white master to look after them, handle their bills, feed them, put a roof over their head. These beliefs are often uttered out of a semblance of love and concern, not hate — but that doesn’t make them any less insidiously sinister.
Michele Bachmann and Rick Santorum signed the FAMiLY LEADER pledge before this “misconstrued” section was taken out. Bachmann is now claiming she didn’t sign the “preamble part”, but why would she sign it at all with this language in it, if she really disagreed with it? Would you put your signature on a pledge with that preamble? If they believe this about African Americans, it suggests that they do not value the principles of democracy, nor understand how those principles have evolved and continue to evolve to embrace all human beings. This belief is irreconcilable with the basic premise of the foundation of this country – liberty for all. We fought this battle once already, and it should be alarming to hear the same arguments brought forth as worthy of a Presidential candidate in 2011.
Imagine Michele Bachmann or Rich Santorum making the legal argument for why some people should be enslaved, because that is the essence of the pledge they signed when taken at its core. When we see this kind of incapacity for empathy in a person or a movement, it’s imperative that we call it out and denounce it. The extremist conservative Christians of the FAMiLY LEADER will, in the privacy of their own halls, call the denouncement of such language “white guilt”, but it is, in fact, mercy and grace. They may wish to acquaint themselves with these tenets of Christianity and if that will not convince, perhaps a mere mod toward humanity will suffice.
The Republican Party’s failure to renounce such obviously egregious values and instead cater to the lowest common denominator in the name of Jesus portends their ultimate undoing, should this country remain the free land it was intended to be. It is reprehensible for a political party to advocate for the loss of freedom and dignity for any class of people in the name of Jesus, and the FAMiLY LEADER pledge does this to almost every class except for white, male, heterosexual, privileged elites.
Update: Michele Bachmann’s backpedaling may not be as clear as it was earlier reported to be, because Fox News is claiming she is standing by the pledge: “Republican presidential candidate Michelle Bachmann is standing firm behind a pledge she signed Thursday that promotes marriage and social conservative values, but includes a passage that suggests black families were in better shape during slavery.” Does her camp really think they can tell Politico one thing and Fox another and get away with it, or did the mounting pressure cause her to take refuge in a weak excuse?
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Laura Novak
Jul. 10th, 2011 at 3:37 pm
One might suggest gently to a politician who might not know better that it is “impractical” to take on such a politically and socially heated and debated fight. But it moves beyond career responsibility and ambition. This is an obscene argument for anyone to make. It is an insult to our president and a sorry re-interpretation of our history. Racism can only be at the core of this. Why else make the argument? And why now? Connecting two dots that span 150 years is a facile stretch.To provide a rationale of nostalgia and longing is not only provocative, it is disgusting. Just when you think they can’t stoop any lower, they do. With the “oops” factor as their only excuse. Great essay. I’m sure Kate Hepburn would understand.
Sarah Jones
Jul. 10th, 2011 at 3:44 pm
You’re right, this is an outrage. And yes, an entirely separate article should be written on what they were trying to do to this President with this racist dog whistle. People who aren’t from the South can’t possibly get what those of us who were do — we know it when we hear it. The entire GOP’s treatment of this President has been so steeped in it, and many on the left have jumped in, unknowingly, perhaps led by those with an agenda — but it is WRONG for any of us to stay silent in the face of such obvious racism. Hope you have a great Sunday, Laura:-)
Tom
Jul. 11th, 2011 at 4:30 am
My wife and I felt we would like to retire in South Carolina .Still able to work we purchased a Restaurant in a small town adjacent to a major highway.Our business was part local part tourist .We bought a great home taxes were low,life seemed good.We bought the building that housed the business,First mistake!Everything seemed pretty smooth for awhile then came the problems.One of our customers early on asked me where we were from and I told him NJ.His reply was interesting and one I will never forget “Oh my If you don’t tell anyone I wont either”I had noticed that we didn’t have very many Black customers and I mentioned it to one of our employees Her answer was “Don’t you know”She explained that traditionally the restaurant was white! During our conversation She indicated She knew someone at the black Radio station in Greenville (She was Black)and maybe She could get us some free advertising ?A few weeks later we got 5 or 6 spots one weekend as a new business.By this time I had several run ins with customers who obviously didn’t care for Yankees and I was getting a feel for the racism they exhibited.There was always an undertone and sometimes an open display .After that week end of advertising it hit the fan ! I actually had customers asking me what the hell I was trying to do.I never backed down nor did I tolerate any overt racism.The result was about a 30% loss of business.Many telling me they would never be back.My wife and I decided we could get along without them.The adds actually helped integrate,one of our big days was Sunday after Church and Pastors and some of their flock would come after Church.We began to see a trickle of Black Pastors with their Flock(We had an all you can eat day)For at least six or so Sundays it was pretty much silent.The norm had always been a lot of conversation and it was noisy (We had 2 Dining rooms)It changed the restaurant and that was a good thing .The hostility toward us never changed as I said before one strike for being a Yankee and another for bucking the system.I didn’t see any real love from these people nor did I see any real Christian principles.My wife and I decided to sell the business (We also missed our Children and Grandchildren)It took us 8 Years to find a buyer.To give you a quick idea of conditions,when one of us would approach a table the conversation would stop cold.The old customers never stopped punishing us for what we did.They spoke to us as little as possible.
rodney Morgan
Jul. 10th, 2011 at 3:45 pm
This is truly an excellent article Sarah. My thanks I give to you.
Sarah Jones
Jul. 10th, 2011 at 3:52 pm
I’m glad it spoke to you, Rodney. It saddens me deeply that we are back here, having this discussion at all, but carry on we will.
StJimmy
Jul. 10th, 2011 at 3:46 pm
It’s both disgusting and ignorant to claim that anyone would be better off as a slave than a free person. The conservatives are showing their true colors with this revisionism.
StJimmy
Jul. 10th, 2011 at 3:46 pm
P.S. Good article.
Sarah Jones
Jul. 10th, 2011 at 3:53 pm
That they are, St Jimmy – and in the name of their Lord, no less. It takes my breath away.
Notanass
Jul. 10th, 2011 at 5:23 pm
Saying that all conservatives support the statement that people were better off as slaves is the same as saying all democrats hate kittens because my democratic neighbor slaughtered a kitten. When you generalize and assume you make and ass out of yourself and no one else.
And to sarah jones’ comment on this post. The same goes to you.
Shiva (Moderator)
Jul. 10th, 2011 at 5:28 pm
I think she is referring to fundamental xtian conservatives. Not conservatives as an entire group. However, being a conservative, in time if you arnt down with the xtian fundies, you wont be a conservative unless you speak out against these people
Sarah Jones
Jul. 10th, 2011 at 5:43 pm
No, it would be like if for two years Democrats ran around killing kittens on TV and then you said Democrats support killing kittens.
We never hear any of the leadership call these folks out – in fact, they are all HIDING for fear of Tea Party retribution.
That said, I was exceedingly careful in my article to denote “extremist conservative Christians” – a denotation not earned in any way by your side currently, but one I graciously made in an attempt to encourage more of you to speak up.
Instead of denouncing the behavior, you come here to criticize those who are speaking up against it? Wow. And you have the NERVE to call anyone else here an “ass?” yes, because it’s more important that we not hurt your feelings suggesting that chrisitan conservatives (who MADE THIS PLEDGE) support it than denouncing saying that African Americans were better off as slaves.
stwebb
Jul. 11th, 2011 at 12:51 am
Hey Notanass, where’d you go?
Shiva (Moderator)
Jul. 11th, 2011 at 1:00 am
Stew he was here 6 hours ago. Calm yourself down
Vyckie Garrison
Jul. 10th, 2011 at 4:19 pm
Sarah ~ when I read the slavery nostalgia in The Marriage Vow’s preamble, I immediately thought of the plethora of revisionist history regarding the Civil War which is available from homeschool suppliers such as Vision Forum, American Vision, Grace & Truth Books,… and esp. Wallbuilders.
One of the historical fiction “resources” which is popular among Quiverfull families is the Elsie Dinsmore series (www.visionforum.com/brows...). Talk about a little “i” FAMiLY ~ Elsie Dinsmore takes the cake in the self-abnegation department! She is held up as a role model for patriarchal daughters.
Martha Finley’s portrayal of Southern Plantation life is exactly the way you describe it: idealized and romantic. Elsie treats her “servants” well (yes ~ the book calls them “servants” rather than slaves) and all the colored people at Roselands adore Miss Elsie as she treats them “like family.”
Vision Forum’s selection of Civil War materials are equally mortifying: www.visionforum.com/brows...
Sarah Jones
Jul. 10th, 2011 at 4:30 pm
YES. The “servants are our family” mantra is still prevalent today. Great links – and thanks for the perspective in tying this directly to the religious right’s belief system. The little i in family applies to women, slaves, — all but white males.
Job k
Jul. 10th, 2011 at 4:22 pm
Its tiwes like ths that make me wonder if all i biliv on african exploitation in history-slavery,colonialism, civil war coruption, is too subjective n whether true reconciliation wth culpable races n cultures is posible..mayb nt!
Sarah Jones
Jul. 10th, 2011 at 4:32 pm
Good question. I’m not sure if it is- it’s like asking people to forgive a rapist who ruined their family and stole everything they own. But at the very least, the culpable can take a lesson from Germany and MAN UP to their mistakes and stop blaming the victims.
Brown cow
Jul. 10th, 2011 at 4:34 pm
Wow ! I’ve never read an article that more accurately explained the underlying racism of the south. As a life long resident of GA, I’ve been immersed in it since birth. There’s also a strong culture of anti-feminism too. I wonder sometimes if my parents regret sending me to college as my attitude towards many things has evolved to be so different than their’s. I live in an agricultural area in which all of the large farms have Mexican workers that may not be slaves, but are treated as if they are. It’s disgusting.
Sarah Jones
Jul. 10th, 2011 at 5:51 pm
Yes, you’re so right. Vyckie Garrison wrote about the anti-feminism yesterday here. And isn’t SC doing some version of Arizona paper’s please instead of dealing with their starving constituents? At least Sanford “Go pray” is out of there. Not that Haley is much better. Georgia is knee deep in a bunch of scandals right now, but what can we expect from that crew.
majii
Jul. 10th, 2011 at 11:57 pm
I live in GA, Sarah, I can tell you what to expect. The conservatives will close ranks, ignore the scandals, and tell those of us who speak up to sit down and STFU, and they will get away with it because there’s a kind of complicity of the media, politicians, the rank and file conservatives, and the other movers and shakers. A key example of this was the revelation that Deal was corrupt and not fiscally responsible before the election in November 2010. After the information became public, the conservatives, who talk constantly about how morally upright and fiscally responsible they are, provided cover for Deal, and he sailed into the governor’s mansion. There are conservative hypocrites everywhere you look here in GA. As long as it is presented by a conservative/conservative group, an idea/proposal is “wonderful” even if it contradicts those “Family and Christian values” they won’t stop talking about!
bee
Jul. 10th, 2011 at 4:45 pm
Kudos Sarah and applause…..
Sarah Jones
Jul. 10th, 2011 at 5:40 pm
I’m so glad this spoke to you. Thanks for sharing that:-)
Reynardine
Jul. 10th, 2011 at 4:57 pm
I don’t fit the definition of a true Florida Cracker- I was born in Northern Illinois, lived there until I was thirteen, and still sound more like a Sucker than a Sandsucker. Nonetheless, even Dade County was still Jim Crow when I arrived there, and my mother, who had lived in the Redlands as a child, remembered when Florida was truly unregenerate. Coming up from that has, indeed, been a long and a hard and a bloody ride, and between her and me, we saw all of it- and we’re far from there yet. Nonetheless, we know what reality looks like, and we have a fair idea what needs to be fixed. The last thing this state needs is fake plantation culture from the Bachman set and fake redneck culture from the hate-spewing “country” music stations, whose propaganda I blame for pRick Snott. To the likes of Bachman, Santorum, Palin, Scott himself, and all those bigotry- inciting carpetbaggers: Yankee, go home!
Sarah Jones
Jul. 10th, 2011 at 5:40 pm
Good point, many of these folks are Yankees infesting and hijacking these beliefs, sans the core care that you find in many southern communities. Yankee, go home indeed.
Sally
Jul. 10th, 2011 at 5:00 pm
The GOP wants to start a new Civil War, because people like Haley Barbour, Scott, Santorum and Bachmann are sure that, this time, the South will win and take their annointed place in ruling the world. After all, they are God’s chosen: the rich white ugly ones.
Reynardine
Jul. 10th, 2011 at 5:18 pm
Something tells me Snott’s pink head will find the Florida sun too hot for it.
Sarah Jones
Jul. 10th, 2011 at 5:39 pm
They’ve already started it. They just didn’t announce it.
SJ Reidhead
Jul. 10th, 2011 at 5:17 pm
As a conservative Republican, I’m furious over this. At my blog, The Pink Flamingo (shameless plug) I did my 3rd post on the subject. If Bachmann were a man, she would be required to resign from her House seat. As for Santorum, now you see why he was continually voted one of the dumbest members of Congress while he was in office. I expect such stupidity from him.
I am disgusted that no one is picking up on the issue, save for Gary Johnson. They are ignoring it. Then again, because Bachmann is one of the Glam Girls of the GOP, she can get away with things that would cost a male Republican his entire career.
Every Republican I’ve communicated with since this mess began is furious with her, and wants something done about it. Unfortunately, since the tea party “patriots” took over, we no longer have a voice or a say in anything.
I think you will find that most real Republicans are angry and want her resignation on a silver platter.
As a “Conservative” Christian, I find what she is doing to be hypocritical grand-standing and pandering for votes. That’s her problem.
On the other hand, bigoted GOP senate leader in Arizona, Russell Pearce is facing a recall. It is now official. Don’t believe the far right when they say that this is a liberal take-down. The GOP was in on it too.
We simply need to get rid of these people, starting with Ron Paul who is also an embarrassment.
SJR
The Pink Flamingo
Shiva (Moderator)
Jul. 10th, 2011 at 5:32 pm
We hope you are correct Pink, beucasae many of us agree with you, she is dangerous. Please see the current articles by Leah Burton and Vyckie Garrison for much more in depth info ion this subject.
www.politicususa.com/en/d... for a start
I think you can search for either author, both are very good
Sarah Jones
Jul. 10th, 2011 at 5:38 pm
I hope you come and comment here more often (including shameless plug) because we all need to take this country back from the nut jobs. I try to be careful in separating the GOP that used to be from this modern hijacked version, but they are the loudest voices and we hardly ever hear from people like you.
I love a good debate on ideology – but that is NOT what this is, and all decent people need to band together to say NO to this.
I know that Republicans are a big part of Pearce’s take down, and I applaud this movement. Let’s get back to discussing issues that matter, like what is the best way to cut the debt and still have a social safety net, instead of discussing whether or not African Americans were better off as slaves.
Bachmann is benefiting most ironically from the same thing as Palin did – playing the sexism card preemptively. As a woman, this offends me deeply. Your party has many female representatives who are not insane or hypocrites. I may not share their ideology, but I respect their work.
Cathy
Jul. 10th, 2011 at 8:38 pm
Great article and comment!
crsytalwolfakacaligrl
Jul. 10th, 2011 at 8:35 pm
Pink,
You are exactly why I think the baggers will be voted out in 2011!
All this BS and propaganda the “REAL” American’s don’t want this BS! The House GOP made a BIG show at signing some stupid pledge and haven’t done a damn thing about Jobs.
Oh but they are trying to make abortion, WHICH IS LEGAL, illegal. They are busy trying to make USA,USA a THEOCRACY!
We as REAL Americans need to take a pledge, or maybe a can of RAID to these scum sucking racist teabags and MSM can pay attention to the (very) FEW that are running who actually have some worthwhile solutions and don’t spout off faux news talking pts.
Why is Bachmann and the other dude participating in this odious fraud? Why are they allowed? Why aren’t they talking about how they will stimulate job growth, or the Economy? Oh right. They can’t spew anything by Faux noise talking points peppered with racist tones.
Hell, MB could of said the “kids and divorce” thing for ALL kids all colors from the time of Raygun! But nooooooo! She had to show her racist baggers and shoot a dog whistle to them.
Well by 2012 “REAL” American are going to be fed up to their eyeballz by the BS.
Most of us already are.
Baggers be gone in 2012 All of them…any of them 8)
majii
Jul. 11th, 2011 at 12:13 am
Thanks, SJ. We liberals, and America, need conservatives like yourself. I find it appalling that a fringe group has hijacked a political party and taken over the narrative in this country. They have convinced millions of Americans that one group or another is the “sworn enemy” of America when nothing is further from the truth. I found this pledge to be particularly reprehensible because these people have no earthly idea what it is like to be black in America, but I do. We have feelings just as they have feelings, and this is the worst insult I have received from some of my fellow Americans since surviving segregation and the civil rights movement. This pledge is very offensive to me because it seems that this group went out of its way to foment unneeded conflict. The era of slavery in American history is over. We are all Americans, and we need to be focused on moving forward together in a way that benefits all of us. That Bachmann, Santorum, and this group in Iowa want to tear this country apart by trying to turn one group of Americans against another is despicable.
mistah charley, ph.d.
Jul. 10th, 2011 at 6:23 pm
In the early 1960s, I was a high school student who lived next to two elderly white ladies, widowed sisters, in southern Virginia. They were kind and charming. One time the topic of civil rights “outside agitators” came up. One of ladies assured me that “our negroes were always happy, before.” In the spirit of politeness to my elders, I did not contradict her. But I didn’t believe it for a second.
stwebb
Jul. 11th, 2011 at 1:10 am
Funny, I had the same thing happen about 2-3 years ago.
I’m a mailman and I used to listen to a lonely older white (eastern European) woman. I always thought maybe someone will listen to me when I’m old and lonely.
Anyway, she once mentioned a visit to her doctors office, and said “there were so many foreigners there…mexicans, asians, blacks…not many (white being implied) Americans”
I thought to myself, here she is calling others un-American, in her thick Hungarian accent!
buckeyewill
Jul. 10th, 2011 at 6:24 pm
As a Black American I ask the question: Why? Why would you go back in the pre-Civil War era to say the Black family was better off under slavery when they were chattel property. What would Republican Frederick Douglas say to such a thing? How about Republican Thaddeus Stevens, or Earl Warren? Promoting family values are wonderful; no one wants a society to breakdown in chaos. What needs to be discussed is HOW to invest in things that will HELP families. Social Security, Health Care, stopping trade agreements that send American jobs overseas, primary,secondary, and formal education. Public policy matters to families…a great deal.
Shiva (Moderator)
Jul. 10th, 2011 at 7:53 pm
Thier truth was that it only happened when a black man was elected president. Is that the truth, their truth or your truth?
I live near knoxville and there is a heap of racism here, from both sides. I also know some very arrogant mexicans who think its funny they can come here and live free off of us.
He was raised in Malaysia until he was 10. His formative years were here