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		<title>By: Tom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jul 2011 08:30:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[My wife and I felt we would like to retire in South Carolina .Still able to work we purchased a Restaurant in a small town adjacent to a major highway.Our business was part local part tourist .We bought a great home taxes were low,life seemed good.We bought the building that housed the business,First mistake!Everything seemed pretty smooth for awhile then came the problems.One of our customers early on asked me where we were from and I told him NJ.His reply was interesting and one I will never forget &quot;Oh my If you don&#039;t tell anyone I wont either&quot;I had noticed that we didn&#039;t have very many Black customers and I mentioned it to one of our employees Her answer was &quot;Don&#039;t you know&quot;She explained that traditionally the restaurant was white! During our conversation She indicated She knew someone at the black Radio station in Greenville (She was Black)and maybe She could get us some free advertising ?A few weeks later we got 5 or 6 spots one weekend as a new business.By this time I had several run ins with customers who obviously didn&#039;t care for Yankees and I was getting a feel for the racism they exhibited.There was always an undertone and sometimes an open display .After that week end of advertising it hit the fan ! I actually had customers asking me what the hell I was trying to do.I never backed down nor did I tolerate any overt racism.The result was about a 30% loss of business.Many telling me they would never be back.My wife and I decided we could get along without them.The adds actually helped integrate,one of our big days was Sunday after Church and  Pastors and some of their flock would come after Church.We began to see a trickle of Black Pastors with their Flock(We had an all you can eat day)For at least six or so Sundays it was pretty much silent.The norm had always been a lot of conversation and it was noisy (We had 2 Dining rooms)It changed the restaurant and that was a good thing .The hostility toward us never changed as I said before one strike for being a Yankee and another for bucking the system.I didn&#039;t see any real love from these people nor did I see any real Christian principles.My wife and I decided to sell the business (We also missed our Children and Grandchildren)It took us 8 Years to find a buyer.To give you a quick idea of conditions,when one of us would approach a table the conversation would stop cold.The old customers never stopped punishing us for what we did.They spoke to us as little as possible.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My wife and I felt we would like to retire in South Carolina .Still able to work we purchased a Restaurant in a small town adjacent to a major highway.Our business was part local part tourist .We bought a great home taxes were low,life seemed good.We bought the building that housed the business,First mistake!Everything seemed pretty smooth for awhile then came the problems.One of our customers early on asked me where we were from and I told him NJ.His reply was interesting and one I will never forget &#8220;Oh my If you don&#8217;t tell anyone I wont either&#8221;I had noticed that we didn&#8217;t have very many Black customers and I mentioned it to one of our employees Her answer was &#8220;Don&#8217;t you know&#8221;She explained that traditionally the restaurant was white! During our conversation She indicated She knew someone at the black Radio station in Greenville (She was Black)and maybe She could get us some free advertising ?A few weeks later we got 5 or 6 spots one weekend as a new business.By this time I had several run ins with customers who obviously didn&#8217;t care for Yankees and I was getting a feel for the racism they exhibited.There was always an undertone and sometimes an open display .After that week end of advertising it hit the fan ! I actually had customers asking me what the hell I was trying to do.I never backed down nor did I tolerate any overt racism.The result was about a 30% loss of business.Many telling me they would never be back.My wife and I decided we could get along without them.The adds actually helped integrate,one of our big days was Sunday after Church and  Pastors and some of their flock would come after Church.We began to see a trickle of Black Pastors with their Flock(We had an all you can eat day)For at least six or so Sundays it was pretty much silent.The norm had always been a lot of conversation and it was noisy (We had 2 Dining rooms)It changed the restaurant and that was a good thing .The hostility toward us never changed as I said before one strike for being a Yankee and another for bucking the system.I didn&#8217;t see any real love from these people nor did I see any real Christian principles.My wife and I decided to sell the business (We also missed our Children and Grandchildren)It took us 8 Years to find a buyer.To give you a quick idea of conditions,when one of us would approach a table the conversation would stop cold.The old customers never stopped punishing us for what we did.They spoke to us as little as possible.</p><div class="commentRating" style="padding: 8px 10px 0 10px; float: right;">What do you think? <img width=20 height=20 style="padding: 0px; border: none; cursor: pointer;" id="up-107554" src="http://ww2.politicususa.com/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/images/1_20_up.png" alt="Thumb up" onclick="javascript:ckratingKarma('107554', 'add', 'www.politicususa.com/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/', '1_20_'); ckRatingCkMarkUp('107554');" title="My thoughts exactly." /> <span id="karma-107554-up" style="font-size:13px; font-weight: 700; color:#009933;;">0</span>&nbsp;<img width=20 height=20 style="padding: 0px; border: none; cursor: pointer;" id="down-107554" src="http://ww2.politicususa.com/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/images/1_20_down.png" alt="Thumb down" onclick="javascript:ckratingKarma('107554', 'subtract', 'www.politicususa.com/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/', '1_20_'); ckRatingCkMarkDown('107554');" title="You got to be kidding." /> <span id="karma-107554-down" style="font-size:13px; font-weight: 700; color:#990033;">0</span></div>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: stwebb</title>
		<link>http://www.politicususa.com/preamble-enslavement-family-leader.html#comment-107533</link>
		<dc:creator>stwebb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jul 2011 05:10:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Funny, I had the same thing happen about 2-3 years ago.  

I&#039;m a mailman and I used to listen to a lonely older white (eastern European) woman.  I always thought maybe someone will listen to me when I&#039;m old and lonely.  

Anyway, she once mentioned a visit to her doctors office, and said &quot;there were so many foreigners there...mexicans, asians, blacks...not many (white being implied) Americans&quot;

I thought to myself, here she is calling others un-American, in her thick Hungarian accent!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Funny, I had the same thing happen about 2-3 years ago.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;m a mailman and I used to listen to a lonely older white (eastern European) woman.  I always thought maybe someone will listen to me when I&#8217;m old and lonely.  </p>
<p>Anyway, she once mentioned a visit to her doctors office, and said &#8220;there were so many foreigners there&#8230;mexicans, asians, blacks&#8230;not many (white being implied) Americans&#8221;</p>
<p>I thought to myself, here she is calling others un-American, in her thick Hungarian accent!</p><div class="commentRating" style="padding: 8px 10px 0 10px; float: right;">What do you think? <img width=20 height=20 style="padding: 0px; border: none; cursor: pointer;" id="up-107533" src="http://ww2.politicususa.com/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/images/1_20_up.png" alt="Thumb up" onclick="javascript:ckratingKarma('107533', 'add', 'www.politicususa.com/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/', '1_20_'); ckRatingCkMarkUp('107533');" title="My thoughts exactly." /> <span id="karma-107533-up" style="font-size:13px; font-weight: 700; color:#009933;;">0</span>&nbsp;<img width=20 height=20 style="padding: 0px; border: none; cursor: pointer;" id="down-107533" src="http://ww2.politicususa.com/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/images/1_20_down.png" alt="Thumb down" onclick="javascript:ckratingKarma('107533', 'subtract', 'www.politicususa.com/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/', '1_20_'); ckRatingCkMarkDown('107533');" title="You got to be kidding." /> <span id="karma-107533-down" style="font-size:13px; font-weight: 700; color:#990033;">0</span></div>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Shiva (Moderator)</title>
		<link>http://www.politicususa.com/preamble-enslavement-family-leader.html#comment-107531</link>
		<dc:creator>Shiva (Moderator)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jul 2011 05:00:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Stew he was here 6 hours ago.  Calm yourself down]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stew he was here 6 hours ago.  Calm yourself down</p><div class="commentRating" style="padding: 8px 10px 0 10px; float: right;">What do you think? <img width=20 height=20 style="padding: 0px; border: none; cursor: pointer;" id="up-107531" src="http://ww2.politicususa.com/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/images/1_20_up.png" alt="Thumb up" onclick="javascript:ckratingKarma('107531', 'add', 'www.politicususa.com/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/', '1_20_'); ckRatingCkMarkUp('107531');" title="My thoughts exactly." /> <span id="karma-107531-up" style="font-size:13px; font-weight: 700; color:#009933;;">0</span>&nbsp;<img width=20 height=20 style="padding: 0px; border: none; cursor: pointer;" id="down-107531" src="http://ww2.politicususa.com/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/images/1_20_down.png" alt="Thumb down" onclick="javascript:ckratingKarma('107531', 'subtract', 'www.politicususa.com/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/', '1_20_'); ckRatingCkMarkDown('107531');" title="You got to be kidding." /> <span id="karma-107531-down" style="font-size:13px; font-weight: 700; color:#990033;">0</span></div>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: stwebb</title>
		<link>http://www.politicususa.com/preamble-enslavement-family-leader.html#comment-107528</link>
		<dc:creator>stwebb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jul 2011 04:51:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hey Notanass, where&#039;d you go?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Notanass, where&#8217;d you go?</p><div class="commentRating" style="padding: 8px 10px 0 10px; float: right;">What do you think? <img width=20 height=20 style="padding: 0px; border: none; cursor: pointer;" id="up-107528" src="http://ww2.politicususa.com/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/images/1_20_up.png" alt="Thumb up" onclick="javascript:ckratingKarma('107528', 'add', 'www.politicususa.com/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/', '1_20_'); ckRatingCkMarkUp('107528');" title="My thoughts exactly." /> <span id="karma-107528-up" style="font-size:13px; font-weight: 700; color:#009933;;">0</span>&nbsp;<img width=20 height=20 style="padding: 0px; border: none; cursor: pointer;" id="down-107528" src="http://ww2.politicususa.com/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/images/1_20_down.png" alt="Thumb down" onclick="javascript:ckratingKarma('107528', 'subtract', 'www.politicususa.com/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/', '1_20_'); ckRatingCkMarkDown('107528');" title="You got to be kidding." /> <span id="karma-107528-down" style="font-size:13px; font-weight: 700; color:#990033;">0</span></div>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: majii</title>
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		<dc:creator>majii</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jul 2011 04:13:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks, SJ.  We liberals, and America, need conservatives like yourself.  I find it appalling that a fringe group has hijacked a political party and taken over the narrative in this country.  They have convinced millions of Americans that one group or another is the &quot;sworn enemy&quot; of America when nothing is further from the truth.  I found this pledge to be particularly reprehensible because these people have no earthly idea what it is like to be black in America, but I do.  We have feelings just as they have feelings, and this is the worst insult I have received from some of my fellow Americans since surviving segregation and the civil rights movement.  This pledge is very offensive to me because it seems that this group went out of its way to foment unneeded conflict.  The era of slavery in American history is over.  We are all Americans, and we need to be focused on moving forward together in a way that benefits all of us.  That Bachmann, Santorum, and this group in Iowa want to tear this country apart by trying to turn one group of Americans against another is despicable.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, SJ.  We liberals, and America, need conservatives like yourself.  I find it appalling that a fringe group has hijacked a political party and taken over the narrative in this country.  They have convinced millions of Americans that one group or another is the &#8220;sworn enemy&#8221; of America when nothing is further from the truth.  I found this pledge to be particularly reprehensible because these people have no earthly idea what it is like to be black in America, but I do.  We have feelings just as they have feelings, and this is the worst insult I have received from some of my fellow Americans since surviving segregation and the civil rights movement.  This pledge is very offensive to me because it seems that this group went out of its way to foment unneeded conflict.  The era of slavery in American history is over.  We are all Americans, and we need to be focused on moving forward together in a way that benefits all of us.  That Bachmann, Santorum, and this group in Iowa want to tear this country apart by trying to turn one group of Americans against another is despicable.</p><div class="commentRating" style="padding: 8px 10px 0 10px; float: right;">What do you think? <img width=20 height=20 style="padding: 0px; border: none; cursor: pointer;" id="up-107515" src="http://ww2.politicususa.com/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/images/1_20_up.png" alt="Thumb up" onclick="javascript:ckratingKarma('107515', 'add', 'www.politicususa.com/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/', '1_20_'); ckRatingCkMarkUp('107515');" title="My thoughts exactly." /> <span id="karma-107515-up" style="font-size:13px; font-weight: 700; color:#009933;;">0</span>&nbsp;<img width=20 height=20 style="padding: 0px; border: none; cursor: pointer;" id="down-107515" src="http://ww2.politicususa.com/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/images/1_20_down.png" alt="Thumb down" onclick="javascript:ckratingKarma('107515', 'subtract', 'www.politicususa.com/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/', '1_20_'); ckRatingCkMarkDown('107515');" title="You got to be kidding." /> <span id="karma-107515-down" style="font-size:13px; font-weight: 700; color:#990033;">0</span></div>]]></content:encoded>
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