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Rachel Maddow Trashes the Right’s Eric Holder Gun Nut Conspiracy Theory
Rachel Maddow called out the 2nd Amendment conspiracy nuts pushing the Fast and Furious, and also reminded the left of why they can’t ignore Fox News.
Here is the video from MSNBC:
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Maddow described the right’s theory that the Fast and Furious program was an intentional conspiracy against the Second Amendment, “This is crazy, right? The theory here is that the Obama administration sold too many guns in order to create gun violence, in order to cause revulsion in the American people about the horrible thing those guns are doing, in order to make people feel more positive about gun control, so then they could get away with taking everybody’s guns away secretly. Someday, after they stop selling all the extra guns to get there. They’re being super lax in gun control as a conspiracy in order to be super tough on gun control.”
Rachel Maddow explained how one right wing conspiracy theorist spread his theory on Fox News and then fed it to Republicans in Congress, which became the basis for the Issa House investigation, and the contempt vote on Eric Holder.
Maddow said that to people who watch Fox News see this as feasible and understandable. She said the right is hard wired to believe stuff like this, and right is susceptible to conspiracy theories like this in their closed loop right wing media.
She said the right believes that Obama is coming for their guns because he hasn’t. Maddow closed by once again explaining to the left that this is why Fox News and the right wing media are an important phenomena in American politics.
Millions of people listen to things like the crazy Fast and Furious conspiracy theory, and more importantly Republican politicians build their whole agenda based around what gets the masses aroused on Fox News, talk radio, and right wing websites.
Some on the left claim that we should just ignore the right. Ignore Fox News, ignore Rush Limbaugh, ignore the right wing websites, as if creating a bubble of our own and sticking our heads in the sand will make them magically go away.
What happened in the House yesterday is evidence of why we can’t ignore the chatter from the right. These conspiracy theories are the Republican Party right now. Sure the whole Fast and Furious thing was completely nuts, but it is a problem because there is nothing out there to counter it.
The right has been babbling about Fast and Furious for years, but the mainstream media rarely did anything to debunk them. The conspiracy theory was allowed to fester and grow, and now it has become a contempt vote on the floor of the full House against the Attorney General of the United States.
It is definitely crazy, and it is also a reminder of why we can’t ignore and not counter the ramblings of the right.
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desertflower
Jun. 21st, 2012 at 2:12 pm
Rachel did an incredible job with that last night! You may want to check this out….things are not what Mr Issa has said..I know. Shocked.
www.dailykos.com/story/20...
Good job!
Sugapea
Jun. 22nd, 2012 at 12:31 am
Jason, Check this out:
GLOBAL ELITES THROWN OUT OF ICELAND.
www.freedumbnation.com/?p...
Dave Browning
Jun. 22nd, 2012 at 11:31 am
From what i’ve been able to discover about this program (fast and furious) it started in 2006 under Bush and the sales of weapons had stopped by the time O took office. The only arrests and attempts to recover these weapons have occurred under O’s tenure.
I’ve a strong suspicion that executive privilege was invoked to protect agents and operations in the field still involved in the arrest and recovery activities.
of course the republicans have no qualms about selling out agents in the field for political gain (see Valerie Plame)… so they continue to press for disclosure. which is odd since it is a republican mess, yes yet another one, O is trying to clean up.
am i correct, or is wikipedia correct in these facts?
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ATF...
Shiva (Moderator)
Jun. 22nd, 2012 at 11:38 am
I think the gunrunning was still occurring after Obama took office. In fact, when Obama took over the Phoenix office that was running it renamed it fast and furious. the documentation that Darrell Issa is going after and is holding Eric holder and contempt for, has nothing to do with the actual program. All it has to do with is a letter that Eric older sent to a senator saying that program did not exist. When he found out it did He rewrote to the senator and admitted that it did. He did of course Shut the program down the minute he found out about it. none of that seems to make any difference to Darrell Issa who is simply going after documentation that has nothing to do with anything. in fact representative Issa refuses to investigate the program any further back than when an agent was killed. Are even further. There is no evidence that the weapon that killed the border patrol agents was one of the fast and furious weapons. It was only noted that some of these weapons were in the area where he was killed
Dave Browning
Jun. 22nd, 2012 at 2:17 pm
Thank You Shiva, yes further study this morning enlightened me that it was still occurring under Obama, there was a stipulation the guns and those involved were to be taken into custody at the point of transfer in Mexico. Hover that would have been a difficult chore in light of the fact Mexican authorities knew nothing of the operation.
Thanks for setting me straight again :).
Sandy
Jun. 24th, 2012 at 5:46 pm
Gunrunning is what criminals do to get illegall guns to other criminals. Stings are what cops do to catch the gunrunners. Project Gunrunner IS an ATF program aimed at catching gunrunners. “Gunwalking” is a strategy used under Bush, where guns were allowed to cross the border. When it became clear the Mexican authorities weren’t able to track the guns, the gunwalking was supposed to stop. There are many, many operations under Project Gunrunner. Fast & Furious was but one, and they used eTrace to track the guns. They were not supposed to use “gunwalking”. NO guns were supposed to go across the border. Some obviously did. It was not intended. www.atf.gov/firearms/prog...