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Ralph Reed Claims Dominionism is a Conspiracy Theory
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Political player and disgraced “Right Hand of God” Ralph Reed is now claiming Christian dominionism is “a conspiracy theory largely confined to university faculty lounges and MSNBC studios.” I’m uncertain why anyone even on Reed’s side of the aisle would believe him, given his history of leading his flock astray, but he has found a platform on Patheos Evangelical Portal in what it calls “the first in our Believers, Movers and Shakers series, which will publish original pieces from Christian leaders in the public square each month until the 2012 election.”
Of course, Ralph Reed is hardly the first denialist to surface. We saw A. Larry Ross claim “Christian Dominionism is a Myth” on the Daily Beast on August 21st, claiming it is nothing but a “scare tactic” of the “left” with little basis in truth. We have seen Lisa Miller, Newsweek‘s religion editor, use the Washington Post to reassure readers that, as AlterNet puts it, ” all this talk of dominionism and the GOP is just a paranoid fantasy of the left.”
Responding to Rachel Maddow’s words on “The Rachel Maddow Show” on August 10th – “Their goal, world domination, blah blah blah…” Miller says,
Evangelicals generally do not want to take over the world. “Dominionism” is the paranoid mot du jour. In its broadest sense, the term describes a Christian’s obligation to be active in the world, including in politics and government. More narrowly, some view it as Christian nationalism. You could argue that the 19th- and early 20th-century reformers – abolitionists, suffragists and temperance activists, for example – were dominionists, says Molly Worthen, who teaches religious history at the University of Toronto.
Extremist dominionists do exist, as theocrats who hope to transform our democracy into something that looks like ancient Israel, complete with stoning as punishment. But “it’s a pretty small world,” says Worthen, who studies these groups.
Miller doesn’t explain or disprove the connection, however, because she can’t make Rick Perry’s supporters disappear in a puff of denialist logic. She can’t suddenly make the connection between the New Apostolic Reformation’s apostles and Rick Perry, Sam Brownback, Newt Gingrich, Mike Huckabee, Michele Bachmann, and Jim DeMint, and Rick Santorum go away. They happened. They’re real. It’s pretty striking that Miller’s “pretty small world” has connections with such high-power Republican luminaries, including presidential candidates.
Neither can Ralph Reed, and oh by the way, what does he have to say anyway?
The notion that Bachmann, Perry or other candidates secretly harbor “dominionist” theology is a conspiracy theory largely confined to university faculty lounges and MSNBC studios. Returning domestic spending to pre-Obama levels, repealing Obamacare and opposing Roe are not without controversy, but they hardly represent an attempt to impose Biblical law upon an unwitting nation. Like the shock and awe that accompanied the media’s discovery of videos of Sarah Palin speaking in churches in Alaska as governor, what some in the secular media find appalling is greeted by most voters with a shrug.
Hardly a shrug, Ralph. Most voters are not like you. And we’re not shrugging. Not at all, as you will see.
It’s interesting that these Christian extremists put themselves in the spotlight by endorsing the likes of Michele Bachmann and Rick Perry and Newt Gingrich and when we notice what’s going on, and bring it to light, act outraged, denying they exist at all. But they do exist. They’ve made themselves known. We know who the New Apostolic Reformation is. We know who Lou Engle is. We know the AFA and Bryan Fischer and all the other players like Cindy Jacobs, C. Peter Wagner and the legion of others, and to steal a phrase, they are legion. These candidates have embraced the most extremist elements of the Religious Right, in public, in front of the camera, in print, in speeches, endorsed them and taken their endorsement.
It’s too late to put on the innocent act.
And we’re supposed now to believe that it’s a paranoid delusion? A myth created by a non-existent “liberal media elite” who is ignoring the problem in the first place by pretending these Republican candidates have mainstream appeal? Are you serious, Ralph Reed? No, you weren’t then either, when you were on the make and fleecing your flock and lying to the nation.
You can go to any bookstore and find their books, like C. Peter Wagner’s Dominion – How Kingdom Action Can Change the World. We’ve seen one of Wagner’s faithful followers, Apostle Alice Patterson (one of those hugging Brownback in the photo above), claim the Democratic Party is controlled by demons
…that an evil structure could be connected to and empowered by a political party … One strong fallen angel cannot wreak havoc on an entire nation by himself. He needs a network of wicked forces to restrain the Church and to deceive the masses. I asked the “Lord, Father, what is the demonic structure behind the Democratic Party?
But there is no such thing as dominionism even when dominionisms leaders are publishing blue prints for the takeover of the country that any journalist or literate American citizen can read? Is that the story you’re going with, Religious Right? It’s almost as though these people realized that we’re not all like them, but too late, the genie is out of the bottle. We see you know; you’re revealed; and we won’t forget you or listen to your denials.
Interestingly, Reed ends his diatribe with a warning to us all:
The media, which has been publishing the obituary of religious conservatives prematurely for a quarter century, will discover once again that social conservatives are here to stay. Their return from a long exile from civic engagement in the late 1970s was not a fad. Nor was their deep conviction that America needs moral and spiritual renewal to return it to its founding principles.
And that’s exactly what the dominionists say, that America “needs moral and spiritual renewal”, and the Seven Mountains are the way to achieve that. As more than one of them is on record as saying, democracy breeds immorality and wages war on “the Church” (whatever that is). Nice try, Ralph. Can’t wait to see what you try to sell us next time.
Ralph Reed’s bio, by the way, attached to the bottom of this piece of denialist tripe, startlingly leaves out his political disgrace and his connection with criminal elements. As Time Magazine said in 2006, writing Reed’s political obituary,
In the face of incredibly damning evidence, he insisted that he hadn’t done anything wrong and that he didn’t know he was consorting with a friend nicknamed Casino Jack or taking money from gambling interests. He thought he could convince his base that they shouldn’t believe their eyes and ears, that they should trust him instead. In the end, not enough did.
Now he wants us to again doubt the evidence of our eyes and ears and trust him instead. Reed’s word was not enough then, and it is not enough now.
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buckeyewill
Aug. 27th, 2011 at 8:33 am
OK…If they don’t want to call it Dominionism, let’s call it RECONSTRUCTIONISM. I don’t want some bug-eyed, potbellied Calvinist telling me what to believe when he is under the influence of a reactionary racist who defended slavery and Jim Crow laws before he kicked the bucket. The foundation of Domionism is Reconstructionism. As a Black person in America, I don’t want to be disenfranchised in my own country again by bunch of Confederates still angry about the past.
gsb
Aug. 27th, 2011 at 8:56 am
buckeywill:
AS a white person in this country, whose Greatgrand Father fought in the civil war,marched through the south with Sherman,whose GrandFather(11th)generation back fought in the Revoloutionary war, does not wish to see these Confederates take over either. The freedoms of the people in this country has been a hard fight,lives destroyed, property the same, ask my Great grandMother who melted her pewter for bullets, for the Army in valley forge.
All my life I have been proud of my Heritage, until now. MY Great GrandFathers of the past would be outraged by these so called patriots.
Dominionism is a danger not only to Black people.
Shiva (Moderator)
Aug. 27th, 2011 at 9:16 am
It sounds to me like he is just doing damage control trying to lesson the damage that some have done by getting the religions goals out in the open. Put the boogyman back in the closet. I also assume he thinks he has credibility
SinghX
Aug. 27th, 2011 at 11:13 am
(from the book, “Pat Robertson, The Most Dangerous Man in America?” by Rob Boston).
Ralph Reed, describes his group’s voter mobilization program as if it were a covert military operation: “I want to be invisible,” he told one reporter. “I do guerilla warfare. I paint my face and travel at night. You don’t know it’s over until you’re in a body bag. You don’t know until election night.”
By this standard, election night in November was a body bag bonanza for the Robertson Right as they took seven seats for State Senate and House of Delegates from the Virginia Beach area. One recent Regent University graduate defeated a 20¬year incumbent Democrat. Describing the group’s voter ID program, Reed explained that volunteers would telephone into pre-selected precincts and say “I’m taking an informal survey” for the Christian Coalition. Then, four quick questions: Did you vote for Dukakis or Bush? Are you a Republican or a Democrat?
“If they answered, ‘Dukakis, Democrat’ that was the end of the survey,” laughed Reed. “We didn’t even write them down. We don’t want to communicate with them. We don’t even want them to know there’s an election going on. I’m serious. We don’t want them to know.” The third question, if respondents got that far, was do you favor restrictions on abortion? And finally, what is the most important issue facing Virginia Beach?
The Coalition used the data to create a computer file on each voter, with survey answers coded according to 43 “issue burdens.” The ID’d voters would then mysteriously receive a letter from the Coalition’s candidate: Computer-generated, laser-printed and individually tailored to one’s “issue burden”-crime, education, traffic, etc.
If the voter happened to be pro-choice, the letter wouldn’t mention abortion. “I’ll take the votes of the pro-abortion Republicans” to get anti¬abortion Republicans in, Reed admitted. In fact, Reed said only 28 percent of his targeted voters identified themselves as anti-abortion.”
A Walkaway
Aug. 27th, 2011 at 12:04 pm
That sounds like a recent phone survey my wife did. The woman got openly riled when my wife didn’t answer correctly, and hung up on her.
This sounds so much like some of the stunts they pulled here in Florida, except that they were often far more overt, if not flat-out violating the law.
(My complaint with the Democratic party is that I think they should have pursued it all the way, rather than letting the complaints drop.)
A Walkaway
Aug. 27th, 2011 at 11:59 am
““dominionist” theology is a conspiracy theory largely confined to university faculty lounges and MSNBC studios”
(I wish there was some way to italicize!)
Faculty lounges? Say WHAT? Only a handful of faculty I know are aware of dominionism, most are so busy (and so focused) that the subject doesn’t even appear on their radar.
There aren’t a lot of journal articles about it either. The last time I did a search of the Journals database (maybe six to nine months ago), I only pulled up a handful of peer-reviewed articles, and only a couple were really explicit about what dominionism was about.
SinghX
Aug. 27th, 2011 at 12:02 pm
….”It’s almost as though these people realized that we’re not all like them, but too late, the genie is out of the bottle. We see you know; you’re revealed; and we won’t forget you or listen to your denials…”
This is always the case when a cult gets the light shone upon them; look at the Moonies. Rev Moon’s people followed the principle he called “Divine Deception” whereas lying was a principled moral obligation once the veneer of reality was peeled back to expose the real “program”. So, lying and re-branding, re-naming (remember Reed/Robertson Moral Majority re-branded to Christian Coalition?) is part of their “moral obligation” that it’s fine to lie to non-believers; all cults follow this “rule”.
Sarah Jones
Aug. 27th, 2011 at 12:09 pm
Just because you tell us you don’t exist doesn’t mean we can’t see you.
Pat Padrnos
Aug. 27th, 2011 at 12:32 pm
We are beginning to see the comments – something like – “nothing here to see, keep moving, nothing going on here”. Sure looks like something is going on here. Denying it cannot make it go away – too late. Thank God for those who have been writing about this.
A Walkaway
Aug. 27th, 2011 at 12:13 pm
The Assemblies of God had to re-brand themselves when they were exposed in Australia, and they’re doing it in places here in the US as well… people are starting to identify that they are actually a cult. Dogemperor (sometimes on Dark Christianity, Talk2Action, and Daily KOS) has written about all of the deceptive practices they do, including rebranding, front organizations, bait-and-switch, cuckoo congregations/churches, and so on. She has a list of them that is very extensive.
Walkaways can testify to the mental and emotional (and sometimes physical) damage they do.
SinghX
Aug. 27th, 2011 at 6:03 pm
I’m so glad you “walked away” and are bring the subject of former cult members experiences to the discussion. I’ve been contemplating all day as to how to approach this subject through commentary…Dogemperor has done an amazing job–I’ve worked on the Todd Bentley stuff (Joel’s Army)
ALL former cult members, from every group, from ISKON to the Moonies, all cult spectrum’s, should be taking the lead when it comes to talking about these kinds of deceptive practices (plus). Former cultist need to do interviews, write stories, take the lead in exposing what this “con” is all about. If every former cultist wrote comments, blogged, set up former member forums, flooded the net with open testimony about the damage that they and others suffered from cult authoritarianism, a dent would be made in the aberrant fundamentalist assault on democracy.
Of course, former members are always demonized as disgruntled former members by people like Reed; no, they couldn’t be honest brokers or whistle blowers,could they Ralphy-boy?…Why do you think Reed is out there trying to blow off the media fast and hard? Reed walked right up to that mic in a classic “control the message” tactics making everyone who criticizes the “crazy ones” while he sneers with inappropriate, fake laughter.
American needs to have an honest talk, a “come to jesus” moment about these fundamentalist cults and stop denying their role in all this “kill the democracy” con…
Reed and the rest of the apologist won’t be able to shut down all the different varieties of former members from all walks of life, all talking about the same common themes, the same abuses, the same mental anguish, same stories of financial lose…same nightmares. I call on former cultist to “come out, come out where ever you are” and speak up!
American needs to have an honest talk, a “come to jesus” meeting about these fundamentalist cults and stop denying their part in all this “kill the democracy” con…
Makarios
Aug. 28th, 2011 at 2:16 am
If a candidate for office makes his or her religious beliefs an important part of their political identity, then those beliefs rightly should come under scrutiny; and if the candidates don’t like what turns up, they have themselves to blame.
Greg Metzger
Aug. 29th, 2011 at 4:43 am
Intereseting, because I just did a blog piece involving his Patheos column. He needs to present this as a conspiracy because the truth would divide evangelicals mightily. My piece is called “Evangelicalism’s Perry/Bachmann Problem” that I think you would track with.
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