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The Religious Right Freaks Out Over West Point’s First Same-Sex Marriage
By: Hrafnkell HaraldssonDec. 4th, 2012more from Hrafnkell Haraldsson

To say aberrochistians are having a difficult time with this is to understate the case. ChristianNews.net had to put the word wedding in quotation marks as though it were a dog and a cat tying the knot (I think I will henceforth put the word Christian in quotation marks, as in “Christian” News).
I will certainly put this one in quotation marks: Peter LaBarbera at ”Americans for Truth” About Homosexuality called Fulton and Gnesin’s marriage the ”latest manifestation of America’s descent into decadence and godlessness” and called it evidence we are dangling off the “moral cliff.” AFTAH only care about lies, not truth.
And then there that is crusty old religious bigot Pat Robertson, who asked, “what have they done to our cherished institution?”"
Watch Courtesy of Right Wing Watch:
From Robertson we get,
“General Douglas MacArthur rolling over in his grave,” intoned the gravelly voice of bigotry. “Ulysses S. Grant rolling over in his. Robert E. Lee rolling over in his.”
Old Pat may think Youth Earth Creationism is a bunch of hokum, but he still hates gay people.
For the couple in question, their marriage was about their love and about their commitment to one another. As USA Today reported,
The two have been together for 17 years. They had a civil commitment ceremony that didn’t carry any legal force in 1999 but had longed to formally tie the knot.
The couple live in New Jersey and would have preferred to have the wedding there, but the state doesn’t allow gay marriage.
Chris Christie may have been man enough to give President Obama his due in the aftermath of Hurricane Sandy, but he isn’t man enough to have withheld his veto of marriage equality in New Jersey.
Despite the tremendous gains made for marriage equality in the recent election cycle, with both Maine, Maryland, and Washington legalizing gay marriage, and Minnesota voters rejecting a “traditional marriage” amendment, liberals and progressives must remain aware of how deeply religious conservatives have dug in their heels on the issue.
For the first time, the issue has been favorably decided at the ballot, showing just how much of a turnaround the electorate has made in its own views, much as President Obama has experienced changes in his.
As USA Today points out, “Since the late ’90s, a total of 32 states have held votes on same-sex marriage, and each time, voters have opposed the measure.”
Those days seem to be behind us. Polls show increasing support for marriage equality over recent years, yet day after day we see religious right leaders pandering to the lowest common denominator.
Pat Robertson is one example, but there are others. As Right Wing Watch reports, Joni Lamb and Janet Boynes, the latter one of Michele Bachmann’s favorite authors, went on the air to tell listeners that “thousands” of people “who have come out of homosexuality” and “may be the most discriminated people in the world today.” She went on claim that homosexuality is “ungodly” and “God cannot bless you and you cannot fulfill your destiny while you are operating within the realm of homosexuality.”
Just as bullies are the true victims of bullying, the true discriminated class is composed of “former” homosexuals who have been cured by people like Bachmann’s husband or by the word of God.
Because homosexuals are not themselves discriminated against. Right?
Well, I haven’t seen either Lamb or Boynes produce any evidence of progressive Christian ministers saying anything like this about homosexuals:
Reports AU’s Church and State magazine,
Pastor Robert J. Anderson of Colonial Baptist Church in Randallstown, Md., quoted Bible passages and asserted that “those who practice [homosexuality] are deserving of death.” Anderson later tried to downplay the comments somewhat, but did not truly back down.
He posted a statement on his church’s website noting that he does not advocate violence, but at the same time “the Bible is very clear on the subject of homosexuality, and I do not need to apologize for God’s word.”
No, I am pretty sure no progressives are saying “former” homosexuals are deserving of death. We just think they’re full of shit.
It is interesting that Pat Robertson says liberals are building a “society of death” but it’s religious conservatives who always talk about killing people.
Lamb and Boynes, continues Right Wing Watch, maintain that homosexuality is a “trap that the Enemy has set,” and Boynes claimed that gays and lesbians are “walking right into the Enemy’s trap.”
And we have Linda Harvey claiming that homosexual activitists have misled the electorate into believing that homosexuality is harmless. Harvey, big on tautologies but not so much on actual facts, said,
Homosexual marriage is wrong because two men together or two women is intrinsically disordered, the behavior is unnatural. These aren’t activities that are beneficial or healthy. Homosexual marriage is wrong because homosexuality is wrong.
She went on to say:
There’s significant dangers to our youth in this. One thing our culture does not want if it wants to survive is to have its youth corrupted and this is happening in oh so many ways now, and homosexuality is one more. And here’s how it works with homosexuality: since no pregnancy threat exists, some people think there’s no reason to prohibit behavior in the young, even the very young. Those who acknowledge no authority from God, who find innocence threatening, are targeting our youth with these messages for some reason.
When are we conservatives going to get serious about making a case to prevent the corruption of kids? And that’s one of the big reasons why homosexual marriage is wrong: because the young are raised on the mores and traditions of the adults and if same-sex marriage is accepted, then children will begin to consider dating and forming relationship in these very different ways; ways that will be very destabilizing to many of them and to our society.
I think conservatives have been serious for some time about making their case. From pressing “kill the gays” legislation in Uganda to saying here at home that homosexuals are deserving of death, I think conservatives have been quite outspoken. None of us, it is safe to say, are in any danger of failing to understand how much they hate gay people.
At this point, because we’ve heard it so much, the old refrain that homosexuality is “of the devil” is becoming rather trite. God isn’t going to kill anybody. But bigoted conservatives armed with assault rifles might.
Especially when their ordained ministers tell them that it’s perfectly alright, that God would approve.
Rather like when the popes told the faithful that killing pagans was the path to heaven shortly before crusaders killed every man, woman, and child they could get their hands on in Jerusalem, including Christians and Jews.
I hope many more same-sex couples are married at West Point and at chapels and churches throughout America. Bigots like Pat Robertson might insist his God doesn’t approve, but I am pretty certain that if there is something of which the God of Abraham does not approve, it is killing people in his name.
It is the behavior of these so-called Christians themselves, who show no interest in turning the other cheek or loving their enemies as Jesus commanded, but who turn hate itself into an institution, and then sanctify it as religion.
If there is a moral cliff, it is religious bigots like Pat Robertson who will lead the flock over the precipice.
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mediabeing
Dec. 4th, 2012 at 9:35 am
Robertson and his ilk and the ones cranking out the lowest common denominator mind poison.
I wish a US court would find these cripplers of the mass mind guilty for their crimes and lock ‘em up…or at least show them for what they are..con men, playing on our ignorant fears; extorting (through tithing) our needed funds by way of fear of gawd and peer pressure.
Shame on us for letting them go this far.
merl
Dec. 4th, 2012 at 5:36 pm
As far as I’m concerned, anything that pisses off rightwingers is a good thing.
D. W. Skinner
Dec. 4th, 2012 at 9:37 am
This is coming from the man who said “God talked to him and told him Mitt Romney would win by a landslide.” Seems to me they should rethink listening to a guy that God just took an almighty dump on!
RX7
Dec. 4th, 2012 at 10:06 am
Quoth Metatron (Alan Rickman) from Dogma: ” Anybody who claimed they talked to God, they actually either talked to me, or were just talking to themselves.”
Brandon Kewley
Dec. 4th, 2012 at 10:30 am
Please let us send the Religious Right (a.k.a. the American Taliban) to Iran or any other country where their religious-based bigotry would be right at home. Let these hateful morons go live somewhere without the separation of church and state they so clearly want to destroy. These homophobic assholes are an embarrassment to this country.
A Walkaway
Dec. 4th, 2012 at 10:33 am
I no longer even smile at their foolishness and blind ignorance. They’re so ethnocentric that it’s disgusting.
Note to Robertson and all of the other hate-spewing violence-loving Bible pounders: there are cultures on this planet where homosexuality is the norm and marriage is for procreation only and considered dangerous. Those cultures are stable and work. “One man – one woman” has never been the norm, even in spite of white Christians trying to force it on people around the world. You need to get an education – especially about the Bible you so claim to revere.
The only reason why we aren’t experiencing widespread lethal-level violence from the “Good Christians” today is because they’re still afraid of public opinion and getting punished. In areas where they dominate, the violence is already going – at lower levels, and they have been ramping it up slowly (boiling a frog time?).
Sandra
Dec. 4th, 2012 at 4:13 pm
They should be given their own category of ‘religious crimes against humanity.’ They spew intolerance, hatred and even murder though in a subtle manner which their adherents take to heart and do the vicious deeds in their name which they then deny having any responsiblity for. I have yet to hear these fake religious nut cases preach a word of love and/or inclusiveness and that we’re all God’s children. Instead, they seek to divide and conquer to their own selfish benefit, usually monetary.
mediabeing
Dec. 4th, 2012 at 10:36 am
Actually, that sick old con man may have something.
We find the bodies of famous dead, hook them up to electric generators, insult their honor and watch ‘em spin, generating lots of handy electricity.
I take back all the accusatory stuff I said of Pat Robertson. He isn’t a dark soul profiting on the ignorance and fear of others. He’s a genius con man.
Super Con Man!
Maranon
Dec. 4th, 2012 at 10:48 am
One would be inclined to think, that with all the needs in the world for churches to do such as : teaching the ignorant, dressing the poor, feeding the hungry, they wold not have time to be worrying about what the gay community is doing.
Why is it that they spend so much time and energy on this issues, is because they keep their clients engage in the hatemongering. And maybe they worry that Jesus and his gang were all a bunch of homos, because in that time and age, they all married way younger than 30.
But to incite people to kill because of their sexual orientation, that is sick and criminal.
The gay people in my life they are well educated intelligent and caring. Way better citizens than the other group, and if they want to have an stable caring, legal relationship they deserve it as well as any other human being.
The fake-religious people need to take a look at their inners dark corners and see what is hidden there.
JohnInVT
Dec. 4th, 2012 at 11:32 am
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I’m hoping this is intended as sarcasm, because nothing could be further from the truth. Read the Old Testament.
Shiva (Moderator)
Dec. 4th, 2012 at 11:43 am
Read up on the religious right
fedded-up
Dec. 4th, 2012 at 11:52 am
I always find it darkly hilarious when one of the many, many, many (why so friggin MANY of them???) self-appointed moral compasses in this world completely ignore the usually starkly simple messages in their respective ‘bibles,’ in favor of following the basest of human degradations = “above all else, find a reason to hate on your fellow man.”
S. J. Mayer
Dec. 4th, 2012 at 1:30 pm
Off the subject a bit but isn’t this the same man that just said he thought porn movies were boring? May I ask how would he know if he didn’t watch? So how sinful is it for two people who have been together for so long have a wonderful weddding? I hope to see many more at the West Point Chapel and other areas of the United States.
Fedup
Dec. 4th, 2012 at 7:29 pm
People like Pat Robertson, Billy Graham and Billy Graham’s son Graham Cracker are all hypocrites the rules are different when they need them to be. Send money and I’ll pray for you. Why should this bother these false idles.
Gregg L. DesElms
Dec. 5th, 2012 at 1:57 am
It’s “Young Earth Creationism,” not “Youth Earth Creationism.”
Not that that manifestly affects the story, mind you…
…but I’m just sayin’. [grin]
For whatever it’s worth, that to which the “Youth Earth…” line in the story on this page links contains these words: “However, Robertson’s Christian Broadcasting Network sells material arguing that the earth is 6,000 years old and that the Bible says dinosaurs and humans lived together,” which, in turn, links to the relevant page on Robertson’s webstore. At this writing (4 December 2012 at 22:56 PST), said page on Robertson’s store site has been removed.
For whatever that’s worth.
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SinghX
Dec. 5th, 2012 at 7:32 am
…”Christian Broadcasting Network sells material arguing that the earth is 6,000 years old and that the Bible says dinosaurs and humans lived together…”
One would wonder why they don’t get sued for fraud by selling products that intentionally lie to people; aren’t their “materials” products created by/for a business who makes profits off of “false advertising”?
On a personal note, I just “dropped” my chiro for a diatribe on how, and, I quote, “…I don’t believe that we were once cave men and all that crap”. Then the “6000 year” evangelical crap was delivered in the usual emotional tone. I had no idea as this person was “eaten” by the Bible Borg as kept their cards “close” but, now I know. I will not return to that office.
Rho
Dec. 5th, 2012 at 6:46 am
Winguts, there are 7 billion people on the planet. How many were there back in the day of the Old Testament? The current nation of Israel is only 8,000 square miles. Can you fit 7 billion people in there?
All species of mammals have same sex relationships, why not humans? It is population control, not as Yahweh intends, it, wait no, because he does not intend it all, but as nature intends it. I guess the wingnuts are so set against nature that they just won’t let her have her way about this either. Good luck teaching Yahweh’s warmongering words to your gay dog, guys.
Betty
Dec. 5th, 2012 at 10:40 am
Now,
he not only speaks for God, but for U.S. Grant, too? If Grant is rolling over in his grave (tomb) ……perhaps he just wanted to kiss the brides!!!
“Love thy neighbor ” doesn’t just mean the ones that are like you….but rather, all of your neighbors…
Mr. Robertson, you cannot speak for anyone but yourself…and maybe a handful of others just like you…who hide behind a few ancient words to justify your hatred and bigotry …. the Bible is NOT a weapon….